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Maru · 08-11-2003, 05:01 PM

-- I think that it's hilarious that the Europeans make fun of American politics. --

Yes, it's blasphemous. Making fun of the masters of the universe? Shocking.

-- This from a region that in the last 100 years has produced Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, Milosovevek, Stalin, etc. --

Er...Europe is not a region, it's a continent. There are 7 of those. Milosovevek? Europe also produced Luther, Bach, Shakespeare, Leonardo da Vinci, Churchill and a couple of others.

-- Military coups in Spain only 15 years ago --

There was one in 1981 and it was a big joke.

-- rioting in the streets everytime a goverment forces a change in argricultural prices --

That's France. You see: Not all French dine at McDonald's. They have an agriculture that dates back hundreds of years and make some of the best products in the world. Just think of wine and cheese. They want to protect that tradition which, in a way, is comprehensible. By the way: It's not rioting like you have it in USA because the social inequality isn't as big in Europe as it is in USA. It's mostly peaceful demonstrations. Also, French agricultural politics is a big issue here but the French are pretty stubborn people.

-- constant problems with "ethinic cleansing" --

Constant? There was a Berlin wall that was removed. In the wake, there were some nasty problems in the former Yugoslavia. Nowadays, they play soccer matches against each other. It was basically a conflict between Christians and Muslims - something which is happening in other parts of the world and not only Europe. 11/7 was a clash of cultures in it's own way.

-- and still has Kings, Queens, princes, dukes, etc.... --

Yea, that's awful, isn't it? So when Lady Diana died, no one in USA noticed. No copies of National Enquirer were sold with her on the cover?

-- As for the Arnold question, our system was NEVER meant to have "career polititions". It was SUPPOSED to be goverment by people that got voted in by their peers, go do a term and then come back home and go on with their lives. Career polititions are the damn problem! --

It's rich people screwing poor people. Like everything else in USA. Right-wing Reagan was brought on by a bunch of millionaires who wanted the policy of the rich to be imposed. He was the perfect stand-in for that. I'm glad you still have your illusions. The system is counting on people like you.

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On a different note: The war in Iraq has sharpened the US-Europe divergence. Many Europeans are bloody fed up with USA playing the self-imposed policeman of the world. Europeans are convinced that it's USA getting it wrong. And the other way around. Add to that the traditional American contempt and ignorance of everything non-American, and you have the recipe for conflicts down the road.

My opinion: Europe needs to get together, forget some of the old rivalry and form a real alternative to the US-Israel axis.

08-11-2003, 05:01 PM
Maru Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Europe Posts: 918	-- I think that it's hilarious that the Europeans make fun of American politics. -- Yes, it's blasphemous. Making fun of the masters of the universe? Shocking. -- This from a region that in the last 100 years has produced Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, Milosovevek, Stalin, etc. -- Er...Europe is not a region, it's a continent. There are 7 of those. Milosovevek? Europe also produced Luther, Bach, Shakespeare, Leonardo da Vinci, Churchill and a couple of others. -- Military coups in Spain only 15 years ago -- There was one in 1981 and it was a big joke. -- rioting in the streets everytime a goverment forces a change in argricultural prices -- That's France. You see: Not all French dine at McDonald's. They have an agriculture that dates back hundreds of years and make some of the best products in the world. Just think of wine and cheese. They want to protect that tradition which, in a way, is comprehensible. By the way: It's not rioting like you have it in USA because the social inequality isn't as big in Europe as it is in USA. It's mostly peaceful demonstrations. Also, French agricultural politics is a big issue here but the French are pretty stubborn people. -- constant problems with "ethinic cleansing" -- Constant? There was a Berlin wall that was removed. In the wake, there were some nasty problems in the former Yugoslavia. Nowadays, they play soccer matches against each other. It was basically a conflict between Christians and Muslims - something which is happening in other parts of the world and not only Europe. 11/7 was a clash of cultures in it's own way. -- and still has Kings, Queens, princes, dukes, etc.... -- Yea, that's awful, isn't it? So when Lady Diana died, no one in USA noticed. No copies of National Enquirer were sold with her on the cover? -- As for the Arnold question, our system was NEVER meant to have "career polititions". It was SUPPOSED to be goverment by people that got voted in by their peers, go do a term and then come back home and go on with their lives. Career polititions are the damn problem! -- It's rich people screwing poor people. Like everything else in USA. Right-wing Reagan was brought on by a bunch of millionaires who wanted the policy of the rich to be imposed. He was the perfect stand-in for that. I'm glad you still have your illusions. The system is counting on people like you. ... On a different note: The war in Iraq has sharpened the US-Europe divergence. Many Europeans are bloody fed up with USA playing the self-imposed policeman of the world. Europeans are convinced that it's USA getting it wrong. And the other way around. Add to that the traditional American contempt and ignorance of everything non-American, and you have the recipe for conflicts down the road. My opinion: Europe needs to get together, forget some of the old rivalry and form a real alternative to the US-Israel axis.