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GrimShawn · 07-17-2003, 01:50 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/West/07/1...ash/index.html

This 86 year old man crashes through a cement baracade and then drives 2 1/2 blocks killing 9 people and sending over 40 more to the hospital.

While they were still cleaning the bodies off the ground he was released and sent home.

He said "I mistook the gas for the brake!"

Call me stupid, but if you keep pressing a pedal and the car is going faster and you're killing people would you not try the other pedal?

This is just fucking sick, a 3 year old girl was killed!

When his car stopped there were 2 dead bodies stuck to the hood of his car.

And he has been let go and may in the future get charged. As of right now he's being described on the news as a very nice guy!

Fucking amazing! Look at them videos 2 1/2 blocks with dead bodies on the hood!

Ironhorse · 07-17-2003, 01:52 PM

It was an accident. The idea of justice is not necessarily to punish. I'm sure this guy will have a hard time coming to terms with this incident for the rest of his short life.

GrimShawn · 07-17-2003, 01:57 PM

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Originally posted by Ironhorse
It was an accident. The idea of justice is not necessarily to punish. I'm sure this guy will have a hard time coming to terms with this incident for the rest of his short life.

An accident is when you miss a red light and hit someone.

Driving 2 blocks and picking up speed with 2 dead people on your hood is not an accident.

Paul Markham · 07-17-2003, 01:57 PM

This guy is less guilty than the system that allows an 86 year old man to drive a car.

Ironhorse · 07-17-2003, 01:59 PM

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Originally posted by charly
This guy is less guilty than the system that allows an 86 year old man to drive a car.

Yes I'm definitely in favor of controlling the issuing of driver's licenses to these accidents waiting to happen.

This sort of thing happens quite frequently, although this is the most gruesome event of this type yet.

Amputate Your Head · 07-17-2003, 02:03 PM

what the fuck is an 86 year old man doing driving in the first place?

Niki · 07-17-2003, 02:04 PM

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Originally posted by charly
This guy is less guilty than the system that allows an 86 year old man to drive a car.

exactly!

webair · 07-17-2003, 02:05 PM

unfortunate all around

SCJason · 07-17-2003, 02:05 PM

Very sad indeed............ Almost surreal when you see the video. At 86 years old it takes a long time to do anything......Stand up, turn around and even change which foot you are using to control the gas and brake. The police said he was not under the influence of anything........So I imagine they are thinking : What are we gonna do to an 86 year old man? This is a tough one......It was truly an accident. Man imagine having to take that to the grave with you.........seeing those people on your windshield everytime you close your eyes. FUCKIN UNREAL.........
Man I feel sorry for those people who lost someone. Of all the things to worry about.........Getting run down by accident at a farmers market is not one of them.

Bobby Vicious · 07-17-2003, 02:07 PM

What if it was Bubb Rubb, and he gave that excuse to the cops.
That is what's wrong with America.

GrimShawn · 07-17-2003, 02:08 PM

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Originally posted by Bobby Vicious
What if it was Bubb Rubb, and he gave that excuse to the cops.
That is what's wrong with America.

My point exactly, and in the statement he issued today he said he had nothing to say. Did not say sorry at all

MadCap · 07-17-2003, 02:09 PM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
what the fuck is an 86 year old man doing driving in the first place?

Exactly

DivaVixen · 07-17-2003, 02:09 PM

So Grim....it is a major tragedy....would you have believed it to be more so of an accident if he were flying a plane and took out an apartment complex and died.....would you then be ok with it? In one of the news reports a few saved the man from a crowd who wanted to beat him.....would that have been just?. Accidents happen all day long all over the world... just not as much in Sunny Santa Monica California......

KRL · 07-17-2003, 02:09 PM

They also just had a report at his house where it shows he has crashed into his own closed garage door twice before when pulling into his driveway.

Lookout if you live in this guy's neighborhood.

Mr.Fiction · 07-17-2003, 02:10 PM

It's interesting that so many people are willing to let him off the hook because he is older. What if he made this "mistake" because he was younger instead?

What if he was a 16 year old mexican kid instead of an 86 year old man?

The kid would be charged with murder and people would be screaming for his head.

I feel horrible for what happened too, but you would think there would be some consistency in the way people are treated when they make "mistakes".

Bobby Vicious · 07-17-2003, 02:12 PM

It's a good thing this unfortunate event didn't unfold in Compton, where he would have plowed through a swap meat or market of some sort with African Americans. I think LA would have had some riots to deal with.

nazgul · 07-17-2003, 02:12 PM

We had a simlar incident when i was working at a bank... this lady pulls up the the curb right next to the ATM, and hits the gas insead of the break, she hops the curb drives through the baracades protecting the ATM and smashes into the wall of our bank.

Luckily no one was standing at the ATM or they would have been dead. All in all no one was hurt, but this shit has got to stop.

Call me agist, but there should be yearly testing after age 50, or something like that.

Mr.Fiction · 07-17-2003, 02:16 PM

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Originally posted by nazgul
We had a simlar incident when i was working at a bank... this lady pulls up the the curb right next to the ATM, and hits the gas insead of the break, she hops the curb drives through the baracades protecting the ATM and smashes into the wall of our bank.

Luckily no one was standing at the ATM or they would have been dead. All in all no one was hurt, but this shit has got to stop.

Call me agist, but there should be yearly testing after age 50, or something like that.

50? That's too young. Maybe 70. Fifty years old is like middle aged these days.

benthompson · 07-17-2003, 02:18 PM

voww...

Bobby Vicious · 07-17-2003, 02:18 PM

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Call me agist, but there should be yearly testing after age 50, or something like that.

I am always in South Florida, its amazing the amount of seniors behind the wheels. Whenever we see some crazy shit on the streets nine out of ten its usually an elderly driver.

GrimShawn · 07-17-2003, 02:19 PM

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Originally posted by DivaVixen
So Grim....it is a major tragedy....would you have believed it to be more so of an accident if he were flying a plane and took out an apartment complex and died.....would you then be ok with it? In one of the news reports a few saved the man from a crowd who wanted to beat him.....would that have been just?. Accidents happen all day long all over the world... just not as much in Sunny Santa Monica California......

If he flew a plane into an apartment complex then took off again and flew into another, then took off again and flew into another, then took off again and flew into another for 2 1/2 blocks yeah i'd have a problem with it.

Ironhorse · 07-17-2003, 02:21 PM

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Originally posted by GrimShawn

My point exactly, and in the statement he issued today he said he had nothing to say. Did not say sorry at all

I'm willing to bet money he was instructed by his attorney to say nothing until he is either charged or dismissed.

Jakke PNG · 07-17-2003, 02:23 PM

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Originally posted by SCJason
It was truly an accident. Man imagine having to take that to the grave with you.........seeing those people on your

Maybe this guy has dementia and won't remember a thing tomorrow.

GrimShawn · 07-17-2003, 02:24 PM

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Originally posted by Ironhorse

I'm willing to bet money he was instructed by his attorney to say nothing until he is either charged or dismissed.

His lawyer issued a statement saying he was very sorry. He issued it on his behalf. Why could he have not said it himself. This just shows what is wrong. If he was sorry he'd want to say it himself

LAJ · 07-17-2003, 02:31 PM

I think the old man and the California DMV are both responsible here.

SCJason · 07-17-2003, 02:32 PM

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Originally posted by TeenGodFather

Maybe this guy has dementia and won't remember a thing tomorrow.

Maybe.........

kisskatlyn · 07-17-2003, 02:32 PM

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Originally posted by nazgul

Call me agist, but there should be yearly testing after age 50, or something like that.

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my area is starting mandatory testing for those over 65 soon...

Yo Adrian · 07-17-2003, 02:34 PM

Okay maybe some people will think I'm insensitive, but fuck it..

Seniors, anybody over 70, should NOT be permitted to drive cars!!! They're too old!! Their vision is bad, their thinking is slow and their judgements are off.

It's not only because of this incident either, I've seen so many INSANE traffic maneuvers performed by old folk that I have no more compassion.

I've seen them drive into businesses & homes killing people. I've seen them run stop lights at a blazing 25mph, I've seen them cut off lanes of traffic and appear to not even notice!

Sure, some people will say 'but they have to renew their licenses every year...once they can't drive safely they won't be approved'....YEAH RIGHT. I don't know about you guys but the driving tests I've taken in 3 different states are cake.....you can hit curbs & run stop signs...you'll still get your license.

Take the keys away from seniors!!!!!!!!!

theking · 07-17-2003, 02:40 PM

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Originally posted by charly
This guy is less guilty than the system that allows an 86 year old man to drive a car.

Maybe so...but according to stats used by Insurance companies the overwhelming majority of accidents involve those that are under 25 years of age...so based upon your statement they should not be allowed to drive a car.

theking · 07-17-2003, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Yo Adrian
Okay maybe some people will think I'm insensitive, but fuck it..

Seniors, anybody over 70, should NOT be permitted to drive cars!!! They're too old!! Their vision is bad, their thinking is slow and their judgements are off.

It's not only because of this incident either, I've seen so many INSANE traffic maneuvers performed by old folk that I have no more compassion.

I've seen them drive into businesses & homes killing people. I've seen them run stop lights at a blazing 25mph, I've seen them cut off lanes of traffic and appear to not even notice!

Sure, some people will say 'but they have to renew their licenses every year...once they can't drive safely they won't be approved'....YEAH RIGHT. I don't know about you guys but the driving tests I've taken in 3 different states are cake.....you can hit curbs & run stop signs...you'll still get your license.

Take the keys away from seniors!!!!!!!!!

Read post above.

Mr.Fiction · 07-17-2003, 02:44 PM

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Originally posted by theking

Maybe so...but according to stats used by Insurance companies the overwhelming majority of accidents involve those that are under 25 years of age...so based upon your statement they should not be allowed to drive a car.

One of the article I read said that if you do a comparison based on miles driven, then people over 70 have a far higher accident rate than younger drivers.

They have less actual accidents, but they drive less miles. I don't have the stats, and maybe it's bullshit, but one of the articles said that is the case. I don't know if it's true.

Yo Adrian · 07-17-2003, 02:49 PM

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Originally posted by theking

Read post above.

Insurance companies don't take into account the circumstances surrounding each accident. Very few teens mistake the gas for the brakes and drive over 1/4 mile killing people in their paths.

theking · 07-17-2003, 02:51 PM

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Originally posted by Yo Adrian

Insurance companies don't take into account the circumstances surrounding each accident. Very few teens mistake the gas for the brakes and drive over 1/4 mile killing people in their paths.

They take into account all aspects of accidents...that is their business...and they base their premiums upon that information. That is why those under 25 have to pay higher premiums.

Ironhorse · 07-17-2003, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Yo Adrian
Okay maybe some people will think I'm insensitive, but fuck it..

Seniors, anybody over 70, should NOT be permitted to drive cars!!! They're too old!! Their vision is bad, their thinking is slow and their judgements are off.

It's not only because of this incident either, I've seen so many INSANE traffic maneuvers performed by old folk that I have no more compassion.

I've seen them drive into businesses & homes killing people. I've seen them run stop lights at a blazing 25mph, I've seen them cut off lanes of traffic and appear to not even notice!

Sure, some people will say 'but they have to renew their licenses every year...once they can't drive safely they won't be approved'....YEAH RIGHT. I don't know about you guys but the driving tests I've taken in 3 different states are cake.....you can hit curbs & run stop signs...you'll still get your license.

Take the keys away from seniors!!!!!!!!!

I don't think it's insensitive at all, the problem with this is that legislation is usually written and passed by ... elderly

EZRhino · 07-17-2003, 02:53 PM

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Originally posted by Ironhorse
It was an accident. The idea of justice is not necessarily to punish. I'm sure this guy will have a hard time coming to terms with this incident for the rest of his short life.

After listening to witnesses that saw or spoke to him right when he came to a stop. He either has know idea what he did, supressed his memory due to a defensive mechanism or he just doesnt give a fuck. He will probably never come to terms with what happened, because there is nothing to say that he should. Shall we let all old people do this without responsibility or deter them from driving by using the court system?

Butrflied · 07-17-2003, 02:55 PM

My only accident was in a parking lot when some 88 year old man t-boned me. I had the right of way, he was on a parking lane. He totally didn't see me, no braking squeels or anything, just slammed into the left side of my car. Luckily it was a parking lot so we were less then 20mph, but still left a killer dent in my car.

A few months after, another friend was hit by an 88 year old pulling out of a parking lot.

And two summers ago, a friend of mine was killed on a motorcycle when an old couple pulled out infront of him, they never saw him coming.

I'm all for retesting, its more necessary then ever with the growing elderly population.

ProperBo · 07-17-2003, 02:58 PM

Maybe he had a Paypal account & it got limited for no reason, so he decided to go mad.

GrimShawn · 07-17-2003, 02:58 PM

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Originally posted by Butrflied
My only accident was in a parking lot when some 88 year old man t-boned me. I had the right of way, he was on a parking lane. He totally didn't see me, no braking squeels or anything, just slammed into the left side of my car. Luckily it was a parking lot so we were less then 20mph, but still left a killer dent in my car.

A few months after, another friend was hit by an 88 year old pulling out of a parking lot.

And two summers ago, a friend of mine was killed on a motorcycle when an old couple pulled out infront of him, they never saw him coming.

I'm all for retesting, its more necessary then ever with the growing elderly population.

the problem is the elderly get the same test we do, they should be given a more advanced test that will challange them in high risk situations and in quick judgement situations. Like a test where a kid runs in front of the car, or where a car pulls out and they need to react quickly. With age you lose your brain to body part reaction time which is the most important thing while driving. It's the same as driving drunk, your censory system is jaded.

Butrflied · 07-17-2003, 03:00 PM

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Originally posted by GrimShawn

the problem is the elderly get the same test we do, they should be given a more advanced test that will challange them in high risk situations and in quick judgement situations. Like a test where a kid runs in front of the car, or where a car pulls out and they need to react quickly. With age you lose your brain to body part reaction time which is the most important thing while driving. It's the same as driving drunk, your censory system is jaded.

Very true .. and its not like most DMV's can afford testing like that.

Mr.Fiction · 07-17-2003, 03:01 PM

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Originally posted by GrimShawn

Like a test where a kid runs in front of the car, or where a car pulls out and they need to react quickly.

Damn, what kid will volunteer for that job?

theking · 07-17-2003, 03:02 PM

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Originally posted by GrimShawn

the problem is the elderly get the same test we do, they should be given a more advanced test that will challange them in high risk situations and in quick judgement situations. Like a test where a kid runs in front of the car, or where a car pulls out and they need to react quickly. With age you lose your brain to body part reaction time which is the most important thing while driving. It's the same as driving drunk, your censory system is jaded.

I agree that testing for the elderly should be different than that for a younger person...but this does not negate the fact that the overwhelming majority of accidents involve those drivers that are under age 25...and of course the ensuing injuries...including death.

eiht_98 · 07-17-2003, 03:07 PM

is there a video to this story

Yo Adrian · 07-17-2003, 03:10 PM

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Originally posted by eiht_98
is there a video to this story

click the cnn link on the first post...there's some videos there

TDF · 07-17-2003, 03:11 PM

people over 70 make up 9 percent of the US population but account for 15% of all traffic FATALITIES

GrimShawn · 07-17-2003, 03:35 PM

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Originally posted by Butrflied

Very true .. and its not like most DMV's can afford testing like that.

yeah but we can spend millions feeding starving people in asia

GrimShawn · 07-17-2003, 03:36 PM

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Originally posted by theking

I agree that testing for the elderly should be different than that for a younger person...but this does not negate the fact that the overwhelming majority of accidents involve those drivers that are under age 25...and of course the ensuing injuries...including death.

The reason there are more accident with people under 25 is due to the fact there are more people under 25 then people over 65 driving.

Take the number of people driving under 25 and the people over 65, then take the number of accident and the over 65 is a higher %

Gutterboy · 07-17-2003, 03:38 PM

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Originally posted by GrimShawn

An accident is when you miss a red light and hit someone.

Driving 2 blocks and picking up speed with 2 dead people on your hood is not an accident.

It is when you're old enough that your reaction time can be measured in minutes.

theking · 07-17-2003, 04:03 PM

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Originally posted by GrimShawn

The reason there are more accident with people under 25 is due to the fact there are more people under 25 then people over 65 driving.

Take the number of people driving under 25 and the people over 65, then take the number of accident and the over 65 is a higher %

The insurance companies charge a higher premium for those that are under 25...and the reason is...they cost them more money than older drivers...because of the number of accidents they are involved in. When one turns 25...premiums are reduced...providing that one has a clean driving record.

GrimShawn · 07-17-2003, 04:06 PM

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Originally posted by theking

The insurance companies charge a higher premium for those that are under 25...and the reason is...they cost them more money than older drivers...because of the number of accidents they are involved in.

that point has been made, but there are still a lot more people under 25 on the road then over 65, if you check the % of accidents by the number of drivers over 65 is more

DivaVixen · 07-17-2003, 04:25 PM

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Originally posted by Bobby Vicious
It's a good thing this unfortunate event didn't unfold in Compton, where he would have plowed through a swap meat or market of some sort with African Americans. I think LA would have had some riots to deal with.

WOW!!! I can understand if you want to point out the general populations 1st feelings of anger, which did exsist as I stated to Grim earlier..... ( how a few had to stop the crowd in Santa Monica from beating him to a pupl), but you straight out pulled the race card ! Maybe we should say" Thank goodness he wasn't black, because then they would be a hangin'"

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GrimShawn Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: BONEPRONE MANSION serving drinks! Posts: 8,120	Here is what's wrong with AMERICA! http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/West/07/1...ash/index.html This 86 year old man crashes through a cement baracade and then drives 2 1/2 blocks killing 9 people and sending over 40 more to the hospital. While they were still cleaning the bodies off the ground he was released and sent home. He said "I mistook the gas for the brake!" Call me stupid, but if you keep pressing a pedal and the car is going faster and you're killing people would you not try the other pedal? This is just fucking sick, a 3 year old girl was killed! When his car stopped there were 2 dead bodies stuck to the hood of his car. And he has been let go and may in the future get charged. As of right now he's being described on the news as a very nice guy! Fucking amazing! Look at them videos 2 1/2 blocks with dead bodies on the hood!

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SCJason Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: California Posts: 1,095	Very sad indeed............ Almost surreal when you see the video. At 86 years old it takes a long time to do anything......Stand up, turn around and even change which foot you are using to control the gas and brake. The police said he was not under the influence of anything........So I imagine they are thinking : What are we gonna do to an 86 year old man? This is a tough one......It was truly an accident. Man imagine having to take that to the grave with you.........seeing those people on your windshield everytime you close your eyes. FUCKIN UNREAL......... Man I feel sorry for those people who lost someone. Of all the things to worry about.........Getting run down by accident at a farmers market is not one of them. __________________ SCJason The New SilverCash "V. 3 It's HERE !" ICQ 138128769 <img src="http://www.yoadrian.biz/holidays.gif" border="0"></A>

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DivaVixen Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: LA, CA Posts: 9	So Grim....it is a major tragedy....would you have believed it to be more so of an accident if he were flying a plane and took out an apartment complex and died.....would you then be ok with it? In one of the news reports a few saved the man from a crowd who wanted to beat him.....would that have been just?. Accidents happen all day long all over the world... just not as much in Sunny Santa Monica California......

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Mr.Fiction Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Free Speech Land Posts: 9,484	It's interesting that so many people are willing to let him off the hook because he is older. What if he made this "mistake" because he was younger instead? What if he was a 16 year old mexican kid instead of an 86 year old man? The kid would be charged with murder and people would be screaming for his head. I feel horrible for what happened too, but you would think there would be some consistency in the way people are treated when they make "mistakes". __________________ Don't be lazy, protect free speech: ACLU \| Free Speech Coalition \| EFF \| IMPA

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nazgul Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 227	We had a simlar incident when i was working at a bank... this lady pulls up the the curb right next to the ATM, and hits the gas insead of the break, she hops the curb drives through the baracades protecting the ATM and smashes into the wall of our bank. Luckily no one was standing at the ATM or they would have been dead. All in all no one was hurt, but this shit has got to stop. Call me agist, but there should be yearly testing after age 50, or something like that.

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Yo Adrian Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 6,326	Okay maybe some people will think I'm insensitive, but fuck it.. Seniors, anybody over 70, should NOT be permitted to drive cars!!! They're too old!! Their vision is bad, their thinking is slow and their judgements are off. It's not only because of this incident either, I've seen so many INSANE traffic maneuvers performed by old folk that I have no more compassion. I've seen them drive into businesses & homes killing people. I've seen them run stop lights at a blazing 25mph, I've seen them cut off lanes of traffic and appear to not even notice! Sure, some people will say 'but they have to renew their licenses every year...once they can't drive safely they won't be approved'....YEAH RIGHT. I don't know about you guys but the driving tests I've taken in 3 different states are cake.....you can hit curbs & run stop signs...you'll still get your license. Take the keys away from seniors!!!!!!!!! __________________ Adult SEO Partners - Full service Adult SEO Agency serving some of the biggest names in the industry.

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