Would you pay for Internet music? - GoFuckYourself.com

Tipsy · 06-30-2003, 02:41 PM

Given Amps thread I was just interested how many people would actually pay for music if they could ensure quick, high quality downloads at a reasonable price, say... $1 a track or similar.

Personally I'd far rather do that then keep putting up with all the crap on a file sharing program. How many others would? I thought a poll would be a good way to judge it.

Amputate Your Head · 06-30-2003, 02:43 PM

absolutely....

[Labret] · 06-30-2003, 02:44 PM

noooo

Digipimp · 06-30-2003, 02:44 PM

Umm we mac users call that the Apple Music Store and don't worry it will be available on Windows before the end of the year.

Sly_RJ · 06-30-2003, 02:45 PM

I like CDs. I'll keep buying. I'm listening to the latest Manson CD right now. Almost every song on it is 5x better than the latest single. I never would have known about these songs if I searched through catalogs and only downloaded the songs I know.

ytcracker · 06-30-2003, 02:47 PM

im an artist too some people would beg to differ i wont point them out

butfuck it if people are hearing u its about the music man word smoke blunts

tranza · 06-30-2003, 02:47 PM

Ohhhh.... Very hard to choose: free or payed.... uhmmmm....... I think I'll stick to free: Thank you....

Tipsy · 06-30-2003, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Digipimp
Umm we mac users call that the Apple Music Store and don't worry it will be available on Windows before the end of the year.

Which I think can only be a good thing. What % will use it though...

I only find it amazing that it has taken (and continues to take) this long to do something like this.

quiet · 06-30-2003, 02:48 PM

yes, and i already have.

[Labret] · 06-30-2003, 02:50 PM

I would consider it only if the catalog was VAST, they charged 10 cents per song, AND they ripped it at no less than 192.

This Mac Music thing, what bitrate do they give you the mp3s at?

Tipsy · 06-30-2003, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
I like CDs. I'll keep buying. I'm listening to the latest Manson CD right now. Almost every song on it is 5x better than the latest single. I never would have known about these songs if I searched through catalogs and only downloaded the songs I know.

I have the problem that someone posted in Amps thread - I often buy a CD for just a couple of tracks and really don't want to hear the rest. It means in effect I buy far fewer CD's than I'd like to.

It would also be so easy to make available 20 second (or however long it needs to get past intros) samples of all the tracks so you still wouldn't miss stuff that hasn't had radio play.

Beastiepoo · 06-30-2003, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
I like CDs. I'll keep buying. I'm listening to the latest Manson CD right now. Almost every song on it is 5x better than the latest single. I never would have known about these songs if I searched through catalogs and only downloaded the songs I know.

I like CDs too, some of them come with great artwork and tracks that would never reach the radio/internet but are the best on the album. Most of the time the only CDs I find that have these bonuses are those that are by the artists that I enjoy over and above the norm. In other words, I would have bought the latest CD by 'soandso' because having bought their music before, I know that I'll enjoy the whole thing. Where a service like the one Tipsy mentioned would come in handy would be for those songs you hear on the radio and want as part of your music library but you don't want to buy the whole CD for the one or two songs you liked. In my teen years when I had too much money and not enough good sense I bought numerous CDs of bands that had good singles and found that the rest of their music was either not to my taste or just total crap. This way, for a limited payout I'd get the music I want and not have paid for the rest of the crap.

Tipsy · 06-30-2003, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tranza
Ohhhh.... Very hard to choose: free or payed.... uhmmmm....... I think I'll stick to free: Thank you....

If you're making any sort of money you would probably find it costs more in time going through all the P2P crap to actually get the tracks.

....oh never mind. I see you're spamming Swoit in your sig. Silly me.

Digipimp · 06-30-2003, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]
I would consider it only if the catalog was VAST, they charged 10 cents per song, AND they ripped it at no less than 192.

This Mac Music thing, what bitrate do they give you the mp3s at?

Actually on Apple's music store the files are in mp4, or some call it AAC ( advanced audio codec) and they are at 128, which in AAC is said to be the equivalent in mp3 of a 192 or higher in quality. I've bought from it and they do sound pretty good.

Beastiepoo · 06-30-2003, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
yes, and i already have.

Ooooh, you crazy mac users you!!!!!

Digipimp · 06-30-2003, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tipsy

I have the problem that someone posted in Amps thread - I often buy a CD for just a couple of tracks and really don't want to hear the rest. It means in effect I buy far fewer CD's than I'd like to.

It would also be so easy to make available 20 second (or however long it needs to get past intros) samples of all the tracks so you still wouldn't miss stuff that hasn't had radio play.

Apple's store generally sells full albums at 9.99 a piece or you can buy single tracks for .99 and you get free 30 second previews of every track.

Sly_RJ · 06-30-2003, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Beastiepoo

I like CDs too, some of them come with great artwork and tracks that would never reach the radio/internet but are the best on the album. Most of the time the only CDs I find that have these bonuses are those that are by the artists that I enjoy over and above the norm. In other words, I would have bought the latest CD by 'soandso' because having bought their music before, I know that I'll enjoy the whole thing. Where a service like the one Tipsy mentioned would come in handy would be for those songs you hear on the radio and want as part of your music library but you don't want to buy the whole CD for the one or two songs you liked. In my teen years when I had too much money and not enough good sense I bought numerous CDs of bands that had good singles and found that the rest of their music was either not to my taste or just total crap. This way, for a limited payout I'd get the music I want and not have paid for the rest of the crap.

I know what you guys are saying and it would be a good service. I just posted my personal preference.

Oh, by the way, I picked up the latest "So and So" CD. It's killer!

Tipsy · 06-30-2003, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Digipimp

Apple's store generally sells full albums at 9.99 a piece or you can buy single tracks for .99 and you get free 30 second previews of every track.

Been meaning to get a Mac for a glorified jukebox for a long while (I LOVE those transparent speakers, especially sitting alongside a Mac that they match). I may just end up going and grabbing one

Tipsy · 06-30-2003, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

I know what you guys are saying and it would be a good service. I just posted my personal preference.

Oh, by the way, I picked up the latest "So and So" CD. It's killer!

Can't stand them myself. Apparently the latest album will be a flop.

Beastiepoo · 06-30-2003, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

I know what you guys are saying and it would be a good service. I just posted my personal preference.

Oh, by the way, I picked up the latest "So and So" CD. It's killer!

Ever seen them in concert?? THEY ROCK!!!

Chris · 06-30-2003, 03:03 PM

free music for LIFE

eroswebmaster · 06-30-2003, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Digipimp

Apple's store generally sells full albums at 9.99 a piece or you can buy single tracks for .99 and you get free 30 second previews of every track.

something I would support wholeheartedly...but at this point in time I can't see me going out and buying a mac just to download music ;)

Also I love shopping at Frye's and seeing 6-7 aisles of windows software vs 1 of the other guy ;)

I would definitely pay for a service like apple provides.

Ketadream · 06-30-2003, 03:29 PM

Digipimp didnt the mac music store do 1 million songs the first day...

thats pretty impressive numbers...

Any word how its been doing since launch..

gothweb · 06-30-2003, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tranza
Ohhhh.... Very hard to choose: free or payed.... uhmmmm....... I think I'll stick to free: Thank you....

By that logic, you would also only shoplift rather than every buying anything. Remember, not paying when you are supposed to is called "theft" and it is a crime.

GrimShawn · 06-30-2003, 03:31 PM

Who Be Link Hotten Me?

JDog · 06-30-2003, 03:32 PM

I goto easynews.com and download music there. I'm a fan of music. If I like the group and I decide I like the song's on a album, I will buy it!

jDOG

tranza · 06-30-2003, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tipsy

If you're making any sort of money you would probably find it costs more in time going through all the P2P crap to actually get the tracks.

lol.... like searching and d/l a music in Kazaa takes longer than searching, buying and d/l a music in some site.... Asshole...

tranza · 06-30-2003, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gothweb

By that logic, you would also only shoplift rather than every buying anything. Remember, not paying when you are supposed to is called "theft" and it is a crime.

And now you're going to say you never downloaded a mp3? Ok then....

ZoiNk · 06-30-2003, 04:02 PM

If it was around $1 and I got lifetime personal licence to it. Definitely.
ZoiNk

gothweb · 06-30-2003, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tranza

And now you're going to say you never downloaded a mp3? Ok then....

I have, sure. I have also since stopped doing it, and my collection is less than 1% downloaded now. It is tempting, but it still isn't right. Heck, I even bought photoshop.

Beastiepoo · 06-30-2003, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gothweb

I have, sure. I have also since stopped doing it, and my collection is less than 1% downloaded now. It is tempting, but it still isn't right. Heck, I even bought photoshop.

Tipsy · 06-30-2003, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tranza

lol.... like searching and d/l a music in Kazaa takes longer than searching, buying and d/l a music in some site.... Asshole...

Um...yes it does. But then WTF. When I get to the stage that I can't afford to buy stuff I'll get a job at McD's flipping burgers. You should try it - you'll make more than spamming swoit it your sig.

Tipsy · 06-30-2003, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tranza

And now you're going to say you never downloaded a mp3? Ok then....

You're also missing the point. At the moment you don't have the choice unless you own a mac or want/need a whole album. The poll was asking if you had the choice would you steal. Seems I'm not the only asshole around here.

tranza · 06-30-2003, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tipsy

Um...yes it does. But then WTF. When I get to the stage that I can't afford to buy stuff I'll get a job at McD's flipping burgers. You should try it - you'll make more than spamming swoit it your sig.

WTF is your problem dude?? Have I attacked you?? NO... Just because I don't share the same opinion as you, you're bashing me?? FUCK OFF!!

What's the difference between putting swoit in my sig and other guys having their own program showing up in the sig?? I don't have to do anything and I end up with a couple of bux in the end of the day...

Why don't you read your own sign (since you are a communist and decided that you don't want to earn a cent from your sig, you want something nice and meaningfull on it): "If you're not going to like the answer - don't ask the question!"

So if you already had such strong opinion about this subject why do you even bother to ask??

Asshole...

nosey · 06-30-2003, 06:29 PM

Living For Today · 06-30-2003, 07:25 PM

i actually did an innovation and development assignment on this with a friend for uni. our idea was something along the same lines. cant find the whole thing but here was the little plan: Basically the whole assignment was bullshit and we did 3000 words on the day it was due but still got a good mark.

Intro
In the mid to late 1990¡¦s, music files available for downloading and sharing from the internet was rapidly growing in popularity. Consumers used to paying full price for CD¡¦s in retail stores were taking full advantage of the ability to download their favourite cd¡¦s for free and burn them to discs. (talk about how this could not last, the demise of napster, the current resurgence of alternatives (kazaa) but its limitations.

Details of the concept
Includes PIC. Also we need to include a service blue print (probably look at text book for info on this. This will be a major part of the assignment. Clear details of the business process. Relationships with suppliers, advantages to consumers. Music to consumers via mp3 files that are available to members who pay a small fee. Monthy fee or per usage? Consumers then able to custom their CD however they wish. Government regulations to be overcome. Persuading record companies our concept will be beneficial to them, etc, etc.
Obstacles:
Consumers who want the look and feel of the real CD. Solution ¡V CD labels, but will also require record company involvement and approval.

Demand Analysis
Who is the target market. The possible target market is constantly expanding (everyone enjoys
music). Teenagers and 20 somethings are a very large target market. Analyse the characteristics of the target market. They were unwilling to pay for Napster, whats changed? Are they innovators, early adopters? Generally, yes. There are those who still want the originality of the CD¡¦s. Those who are satisfied currently with Kazaa and the likes. Then number crunching (ABS statistics), ATAR model.

NPD process
Opportunity Identification ¡V gap in the market, ¡§a better napster¡¨
Concept Generation ¡V how can we be different, and be legal.
Concept Evaluation ¡V Is our concept valid ¡V> detail why we think so.
Production ¡V How will we get the ball rolling. Record Company alliances, advertising, staff
Launch ¡V advertising, PR, build-up!

Full Product Protocol Statement
Core product ¡V entertainment, fun
Actual products ¡V the actual program file, the actual mp3 files, information,
Augmented products ¡V blank CD¡¦s the obvious one (possibly actual product), technical help, IT help, etc. ?³ look up textbooks on this for better description.

Design and Development
Basically a more detailed part of the Development stage in the NPD.

Commercialisation
The Launch details, just more detail again from the NPD. Launch activities, PR, exposure! Also, post launch tracking.

Conclusion

Slick · 06-30-2003, 07:35 PM

Back when I was your age, we didn't have the internet to download our music for free, nor did we have music samples to listen to or CDs to scan past songs, we were stuck with CASSETTES and had to flip them and fast forward to the songs we liked, oh yeah, no skipping the sucky songs. We had to learn to love all the songs.

Geeeeesh, kids these days, think they got it hard, ha ha ha.

Digipimp · 06-30-2003, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by eroswebmaster

something I would support wholeheartedly...but at this point in time I can't see me going out and buying a mac just to download music ;)

Also I love shopping at Frye's and seeing 6-7 aisles of windows software vs 1 of the other guy ;)

I would definitely pay for a service like apple provides.

Apparently you don't read the entire threads or you just skim through. As I already said, Apple will be releasing iTunes and the Apple music store to windows users before the end of the year.

Yeah maybe you six 5 aisles of games, but that's why I own a PS2. No one has yet to tell me what they can do on a PC that I can't do on my mac other than play video games.

Digipimp · 06-30-2003, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ketadream
Digipimp didnt the mac music store do 1 million songs the first day...

thats pretty impressive numbers...

Any word how its been doing since launch..

It did quite well the first day and the first several weeks. It's still doing well but obviously not selling at the same pace as the first day. They are also in the process of adding a whole whole bunch of indy label stuff to the store. They also do the new music Tuesdays every tuesday as that's the day the recording industry releases new stuff and they add a little more of other stuff every week. Overall I like it much more than going to the store and paying $18 for a CD.

netstarz · 06-30-2003, 09:33 PM

KRL · 06-30-2003, 09:40 PM

Apples iTunes did something like 2 million sales of songs at .99 cents each in its first week I heard.

Krusty · 06-30-2003, 09:51 PM

maybe mate - depends on the cost.. there are "services" out there who share their files with the world anyway - it's all free - if i can't find it on that program - i'll definately buy it!

Ironhorse · 06-30-2003, 09:58 PM

Also I'd like to own some reasonable copy rights like I shouldn't lose my entire library when re-installing windows, or transfer from pc to car.

smack · 06-30-2003, 10:01 PM

fuck a dollar a track, might as well go buy an overpriced CD. you get me 50 cents a track and that would be reasonable. i firmly believe that artists shouldn't make most of their profit off of recorded music, but by touring and allowing their loyal fanbase to see them live. that's the way music is supposed to be.

booker · 06-30-2003, 10:04 PM

If it was much cheaper than CDs, extremely high quality, the availability was there (ie faster downloads than my connection can handle regardless of traffic) and you could download the videos and maybe some making-of and other additional shit like you get on DVD movies, then maybe.

Rochard · 06-30-2003, 10:05 PM

No, I'll never buy music on line.

I buy my music in a music store; I have over 500 CD's. I'm not about to download 500 CDs only to have them lost the next time my hard drive dies.

But the recent stance of the music industry threatens me all the same. I've spent a lot of money for these CDs, and I want to be able to use them where ever I damn please, be it if I'm burning disks to listen in my car, on my computer, or on my MP3 Player. They'll never be able to stop me from doing this; I can build computers all day long with old operating systems and old software.

I believe this is called free use. If someone signs up for my website, they can print up as many copies of my photos as they want - As long as it's for their personal use.

I very rarely download music from the web, and when I do it's only because I can't find a place that will sell me a CD with a twenty year old one hit wonder.

dr00 · 07-01-2003, 11:00 AM

The only way I would pay for music would be if the quality kicked ass, and the transfer time was way better than anyother file sharing software.

Tipsy · 07-01-2003, 01:34 PM

Interesting results. More or less 50/50 split which is higher thanI'd have expected for people willing to pay.

Makes you wonder how much money the music industry has thrown away trying to fight a fight they could never really win rather than embracing the technology and using it to boost sales.

View Poll Results: Would you pay to download music?
Sure if the service was good and they had the tracks I want	31	49.21%
No fucking way - it's free music or nothing for me	30	47.62%
I never listen to music anyway	2	3.17%
Voters: 63. You may not vote on this poll

06-30-2003, 02:41 PM	#1
Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	Would you pay for Internet music? Given Amps thread I was just interested how many people would actually pay for music if they could ensure quick, high quality downloads at a reasonable price, say... $1 a track or similar. Personally I'd far rather do that then keep putting up with all the crap on a file sharing program. How many others would? I thought a poll would be a good way to judge it. __________________ Ignorance is never bliss.

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Slick Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Houghton, MI Posts: 7,338	Back when I was your age, we didn't have the internet to download our music for free, nor did we have music samples to listen to or CDs to scan past songs, we were stuck with CASSETTES and had to flip them and fast forward to the songs we liked, oh yeah, no skipping the sucky songs. We had to learn to love all the songs. Geeeeesh, kids these days, think they got it hard, ha ha ha.

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smack Push Porn Like Weight. Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Inside .NET Posts: 10,652	fuck a dollar a track, might as well go buy an overpriced CD. you get me 50 cents a track and that would be reasonable. i firmly believe that artists shouldn't make most of their profit off of recorded music, but by touring and allowing their loyal fanbase to see them live. that's the way music is supposed to be. __________________ Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.

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booker Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Baltimore Posts: 1,370	If it was much cheaper than CDs, extremely high quality, the availability was there (ie faster downloads than my connection can handle regardless of traffic) and you could download the videos and maybe some making-of and other additional shit like you get on DVD movies, then maybe. __________________ Xanadu024 (aim) or 286785389 (icq) "Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard."

06-30-2003, 10:05 PM	#46
Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 74,099	No, I'll never buy music on line. I buy my music in a music store; I have over 500 CD's. I'm not about to download 500 CDs only to have them lost the next time my hard drive dies. But the recent stance of the music industry threatens me all the same. I've spent a lot of money for these CDs, and I want to be able to use them where ever I damn please, be it if I'm burning disks to listen in my car, on my computer, or on my MP3 Player. They'll never be able to stop me from doing this; I can build computers all day long with old operating systems and old software. I believe this is called free use. If someone signs up for my website, they can print up as many copies of my photos as they want - As long as it's for their personal use. I very rarely download music from the web, and when I do it's only because I can't find a place that will sell me a CD with a twenty year old one hit wonder. __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION

07-01-2003, 11:00 AM	#47
dr00 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 157	The only way I would pay for music would be if the quality kicked ass, and the transfer time was way better than anyother file sharing software. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

07-01-2003, 01:34 PM	#48
Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	Interesting results. More or less 50/50 split which is higher thanI'd have expected for people willing to pay. Makes you wonder how much money the music industry has thrown away trying to fight a fight they could never really win rather than embracing the technology and using it to boost sales. __________________ Ignorance is never bliss.