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ADL Colin 05-27-2003 12:00 PM

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Originally posted by Angelonfire
The next generation,, My kids, Yours... They will have to live with the consequences....

Will it ever STOP ? ....

No, it won't. It didn't stop with the first World War (the war to end all wars, right?) , the second World War, the Korean War, the Vietnamese War, the Iran/Iraq war, the Seven Days War, any of the Arab/Israeli Wars, any of thousands of civil wars, Palestinian uprisings, Afghan/Soviet War, Afghan/US War, the Soviet occupation of Baltic states, Idi Amin, Kashmir, Nanking, Falklands. God, there are thousands. There are probably about 40 armed conflicts and civil wars going on right now.

For that matter it didn't stop with the Napoleonic Wars, the Crimean War, the American Civil War, the Franco-Prussian War, the War of 1812, the Boer War. It didn't stop with Genghis Kahn, Cromwell, Julius Caesar, Darius, Mohammed and the other Caliphs, or Pope Urban II. Nor did it stop with any number of Babylonian, Macedonian, Egyptian, Hebrew, Assyrian, Chinese, Mayan, or Aztec Kings.

This is the way the world is. Arm thyself!

theking 05-27-2003 12:31 PM

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Originally posted by charly
No you just asked me to list five and I did more than that. So you admit US politicians are taking money from supporters of another country.
I have never denied that politicians take donations to campaign funds from citizens of the USA that are pro Israel...as the majority of Americans are pro Israel...so I have nothing to admit to.

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All we disagree about is the effectiveness of all this money. I argue they give this money because it is effective.

You argue they give this money and it has no effect. Kind of charity.

I have not made an arguement about effectiveness, one way or the other...you have the wrong person.

I said that "I am satisfied that the backers of Israel are not the driving force behind campaign funding for any politician."

I proved this to be the case by the very link you provided.

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What did you have to see a lawyer for, been caught again???
My business is not any of your business...but if you feel the need to know I saw the attorney that was retained to represent my youngest brother since he was run over last Thursday. My oldest brother could not be present as he had to work today and my brother that was injured is not mobile so the responsibilty fell on me. The attorney has taken the case and put the wheels in motion.

theking 05-27-2003 12:51 PM

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Originally posted by Colin


No, it won't. It didn't stop with the first World War (the war to end all wars, right?) , the second World War, the Korean War, the Vietnamese War, the Iran/Iraq war, the Seven Days War, any of the Arab/Israeli Wars, any of thousands of civil wars, Palestinian uprisings, Afghan/Soviet War, Afghan/US War, the Soviet occupation of Baltic states, Idi Amin, Kashmir, Nanking, Falklands. God, there are thousands. There are probably about 40 armed conflicts and civil wars going on right now.

For that matter it didn't stop with the Napoleonic Wars, the Crimean War, the American Civil War, the Franco-Prussian War, the War of 1812, the Boer War. It didn't stop with Genghis Kahn, Cromwell, Julius Caesar, Darius, Mohammed and the other Caliphs, or Pope Urban II. Nor did it stop with any number of Babylonian, Macedonian, Egyptian, Hebrew, Assyrian, Chinese, Mayan, or Aztec Kings.

This is the way the world is. Arm thyself!

If memory serves me correctly there have been more than 14,000 wars of some significance...and counting.

Troels 05-27-2003 01:23 PM

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Originally posted by Colin


No, it won't. It didn't stop with the first World War (the war to end all wars, right?) , the second World War, the Korean War, the Vietnamese War, the Iran/Iraq war, the Seven Days War, any of the Arab/Israeli Wars, any of thousands of civil wars, Palestinian uprisings, Afghan/Soviet War, Afghan/US War, the Soviet occupation of Baltic states, Idi Amin, Kashmir, Nanking, Falklands. God, there are thousands. There are probably about 40 armed conflicts and civil wars going on right now.

For that matter it didn't stop with the Napoleonic Wars, the Crimean War, the American Civil War, the Franco-Prussian War, the War of 1812, the Boer War. It didn't stop with Genghis Kahn, Cromwell, Julius Caesar, Darius, Mohammed and the other Caliphs, or Pope Urban II. Nor did it stop with any number of Babylonian, Macedonian, Egyptian, Hebrew, Assyrian, Chinese, Mayan, or Aztec Kings.

This is the way the world is. Arm thyself!

And yet people still believe in a God.

I look forward to the day when people will think for themselves and not live by rules and truths set down by religious leaders.

Rip 05-27-2003 01:31 PM

I saw a deranged guy walking down the steet with explosives strapped to his waist,

I was gonna call the cops but after reading this thread, I thought of the sins of many generations of ancestors...

It's probably my fault, I thought to myself

I just smiled and waved at the man, thinking somewhere deep down he was just a misguided nice guy at heart

theking 05-27-2003 01:44 PM

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Originally posted by Rip
I saw a deranged guy walking down the steet with explosives strapped to his waist,

I was gonna call the cops but after reading this thread, I thought of the sins of many generations of ancestors...

It's probably my fault, I thought to myself

I just smiled and waved at the man, thinking somewhere deep down he was just a misguided nice guy at heart

You missed your opportunity...to give him directions to an address of your choosing...several that posted in this thread for example.

bikinihouse 05-27-2003 01:48 PM

The USA really will own this whole world sooon... if they want. I wish they would just step back and mind their own business for once.

mule 05-27-2003 01:52 PM

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Originally posted by theking


You missed your opportunity...to give him directions to an address of your choosing...several that posted in this thread for example.

Shame on you. PF is spinning in his grave now :)

Webby 05-27-2003 02:28 PM

Ah.. the thread goes on! :Graucho

There sure is one massive load of "nationalism" floating about!
How about we *actually* (that means do it!) consider each others opinions - there are good points on boths sides!!

Overall, there is one serious lack of communication and it ain't limited to this board! Ya can blame the US, France, UK, Russia or Iceland - it don't matter a damn in the end. Meet the people from any of those countries and ya will find they are just the same as you.

It is also no secret that the US would have 100% support from countries (the opportunity for this to happen has occurred .. think three times now).. for actions had the Admin simpley "gave" very little. But sadly, this was not to be.... so the crap will continue. We now have the absurd spoilt brat behaviour with a "leader" who don't wish to take phone calls from other world leaders - pathetic!

All this alledged nation and race hating is bullshit from totally ignoranct imbeciles. Contrary to some expressions here.. there ain't no "shit countries" on this planet - there may be some you would not elect to live in, but they ain't shit. And, that includes France for the benefit of "Freedom Fries" lovers - that is just laughed at in France.

I only met two people in my life that some would use the word "hate" (and sure as hell they were genuinely evil - not exactly "common crooks" - they are serving time now for their actions!) - but I don't hate em - just a waste of a life!

OK as for the "thing" in the Whitehouse.. I don't hate the guy, he knows what he is doing (least I hope so!) and he will pay the price in the end. I only feel sorry for people in the US who supported and continue to support him and will also pay the price of the "thing's" ignorant, arrogant decisions. Let's say I just despise him, cos he had many chances since taking office and blew the lot.

Get a grip folks.. surely we would not be attacking each other in any face to face like this?

Peace out!! :glugglug

Webby 05-27-2003 02:35 PM

bikinihouse:

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The USA really will own this whole world sooon... if they want. I wish they would just step back and mind their own business for once.
*lol* To coin a phrase from some "greater one" - over my dead body! :Graucho

ADL Colin 05-27-2003 04:38 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
It is also no secret that the US would have 100% support from countries (the opportunity for this to happen has occurred .. think three times now).. for actions had the Admin simpley "gave" very little. But sadly, this was not to be.... so the crap will continue. We now have the absurd spoilt brat behaviour with a "leader" who don't wish to take phone calls from other world leaders - pathetic!
Which countries and situations in particular are you talking about, Webby?

12clicks 05-27-2003 06:03 PM

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Originally posted by Webby

OK as for the "thing" in the Whitehouse.. I don't hate the guy, he knows what he is doing (least I hope so!) and he will pay the price in the end. I only feel sorry for people in the US who supported and continue to support him and will also pay the price of the "thing's" ignorant, arrogant decisions. Let's say I just despise him, cos he had many chances since taking office and blew the lot.

ahahaha, I love assclowns who start a post with "lets all get along" and finish the above clap trap.

kenny 05-27-2003 06:17 PM

Game.

US 1

anti-US 0

theking 05-27-2003 09:18 PM

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Originally posted by kenny
Game.

US 1

anti-US 0

:thumbsup

Honeyslut 05-27-2003 09:22 PM

:drinkup

Joe Sixpack 05-27-2003 09:27 PM

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Originally posted by kenny
Game.

US 1

anti-US 0

:1orglaugh

Rip 05-27-2003 10:37 PM

A little know fact from the third world

did you know for instance, that it's bad manners to eat with your left hand...

why you ask...?

well there is no TP so the standard practice is to wipe/clean your ass with your left hand...

ahh....if only they bought toilet paper instead of plastic explosives, I'd consider shaking their hands

Angelonfire 05-27-2003 11:07 PM

Joe Sixpack

Great thread interesting ,,,, I learned alot... since a week now a real subject... with 336 post and 3244 visitors...

You deserve a DVD :thumbsup :winkwink:

Webby 05-27-2003 11:22 PM

12clicks:

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ahahaha, I love assclowns who start a post with "lets all get along" and finish the above clap trap
I'm pleased ya enjoyed that! But is may seem alien to ya to see this "get along" and the "above clap trap" however "getting along" has fuck all to do with "above clap trap". It will take several years to let the "clap trap" cool and I for one have won't be refraining for the "clap trap". If ya don't like it - go fuck yourself and your alledged "President" as well and enjoy the experience!:Graucho

Webby 05-27-2003 11:25 PM

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Game.

US 1

anti-US 0
I am seriously thinking all folks in the US are as dim as some on this board.. holding back the verdict till I read more tho - give em a fair chance! :1orglaugh

escorpio 05-27-2003 11:28 PM

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Originally posted by Angelonfire
Joe Sixpack

Great thread interesting ,,,, I learned alot... since a week now a real subject... with 336 post and 3244 visitors...

You deserve a DVD :thumbsup :winkwink:

Joe has won so many DVD players with his anti- U.S.A. posts he should write George Bush a thank you note.

Ironhorse 05-27-2003 11:32 PM

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Originally posted by Colin
Oh, geez. I see all the same people that were predicting the bloodiest war of the century, that tens of thousands of US soldiers would die in urban combat in Fortess Baghdad, that Saddam had something up his sleeve and had learned something from the last war, that the US was heading for another Vietnam, that the US was lying about it's military progress, that the US media was conspiring to present a false view of the success of the military in the early campaign and who chose "quagmire" as the word of the month are back. Once again you are here to say "you just don't get it" and once again you are wrong.


It's not over yet..

Webby 05-27-2003 11:34 PM

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Joe has won so many DVD players with his anti- U.S.A. posts he should write George Bush a thank you note.
Hang on!.. The asshole in the Whitehouse may claim that was his prime achievement since he came to office - cos there is nuthing else to claim success on! :1orglaugh

I can see Mr Modesty (grinning Rummy) announcing this achievement from the deck of an aircraft carrier and coy George accepting the "honor" :1orglaugh

Joe Sixpack 05-27-2003 11:34 PM

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Originally posted by escorpio
Joe has won so many DVD players with his anti- U.S.A. posts he should write George Bush a thank you note.
What are you talking about?!

I've never won a DVD player or an X-box for that matter with any of my posts... so I think it's about time. This is a great thread.

Post on people!

Ironhorse 05-27-2003 11:34 PM

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Originally posted by Webby


I am seriously thinking all folks in the US are as dim as some on this board.. holding back the verdict till I read more tho - give em a fair chance! :1orglaugh

Dude US is a big place with lots of people. You shouldn't make these kind of generalizations.

Webby 05-27-2003 11:38 PM

Ironhorse:

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Dude US is a big place with lots of people. You shouldn't make these kind of generalizations.
I've been trying VERY hard for a pretty long while now trying to wipe this idea aside, but somehow it just gets thrust up front time and time again... :glugglug

escorpio 05-27-2003 11:44 PM

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Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


What are you talking about?!

I've never won a DVD player or an X-box for that matter with any of my posts... so I think it's about time. This is a great thread.

Post on people!

Damn, really? You are overdue.

Webby 05-28-2003 01:39 AM

Oh hell.. looks like all that gushing "patriotism" and flag waving in support of a bananna republic is waning!

I was rooting for Joe Sixpack for a least get a DVD!:1orglaugh

No defence for an ailing over rated empire with chicken brains as management and more WMD than any country it whines about ??:glugglug

Joe Sixpack 05-28-2003 01:58 AM

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Originally posted by escorpio
Damn, really? You are overdue.
I agree. :winkwink:

ADL Colin 05-28-2003 02:33 AM

Is there a medical term for people that are fixated on the United States, it's power, it's wealth, and it's standing in the world? Anyone have a copy of DSM-IV around?

Oh, and Webby. What are the countries and situations in which the US would have "100% support' in exchange for "giving" a little?

dav555add 05-28-2003 04:00 AM

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quiet 05-28-2003 04:01 AM

another very long meaningless (in the correct sense) thread

:glugglug

12clicks 05-28-2003 05:25 AM

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Originally posted by Webby
12clicks:



I'm pleased ya enjoyed that! But is may seem alien to ya to see this "get along" and the "above clap trap" however "getting along" has fuck all to do with "above clap trap". It will take several years to let the "clap trap" cool and I for one have won't be refraining for the "clap trap". If ya don't like it - go fuck yourself and your alledged "President" as well and enjoy the experience!:Graucho

Are you short or is it your country that's small?
Cause your "little man's" disease bleeds through all your posts.:thumbsup

Joe Citizen 10-07-2004 04:26 AM

I'm not going to let 12clicks have the last word in a thread I started.

:glugglug


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