DraX

Big day for Europe, will the "racists" continue to grow or will Europe be flooded by a soup of left/liberal multi cultural irrational gender dysphoria nonsense?

Will U.K. vote for the new brexit party and get the fuck out of the EU?

What about Holland, will it be good enough for the one and only nico-t to open a bottle of champagne when the final results hit the screens.

Stay tuned...

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politicians made you promises...good times in 3,2,1...

oh wait! thats not how it works is it?...god damned reality...a bitch...

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Paul Markham

The problem is the EU has too many convinced that they can't have the trade deal, travel between countries, working abroad, and a few other things without being ruled from the centre.

Well let me inform those who believe this that they are wrong. Any country can have a trade deal, countries supplying products have to make sure the products supplied adhere to the receiving countries rules on that product, travel around Europe was something we enjoyed long before the Common Market, working abroad was easy all one needed was a work visa so the receiving country could limit who came. There are many other things that Europe can have without being ruled from the centre.

The only thing that won't be possible is the Euro. Given the failure that has been will that be a good thing or bad thing?

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DraX

No no Serb cave man the new reality is following:

-Shootings on the streets between none European gangs over drug turfs
-Drugs spreading like never before, easier access for our confused teens
-Cars are set on fire in foreigner dominated residential areas
-Natives don't get proper healthcare
-Elders in senior homes don't get quality care
-Elders working their whole life get shitty pensions and considered poor
-Countries are more divided than ever
-Corruption in all levels of society is spreading like a wildfire
-Politicians stealing and spreading out tax money on shit
-School results decreasing
-Unable to secure the continent from terrorists
-Increase of rape in all western immigration friendly countries
-Integration is a cluster fuck

But how would you know, you brag about visiting Muslim countries and your own country is not even in the EU.

You're a fucking sissy, which is ironic considering how you keep amplify your own and Serbia's Masculinity time and again.

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Will I still be able to smoke weed and bang whores?
That's all I care about.

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pimpmaster9000

and football teams could be split in to 1 player units and everybody could decide for themselves...and they could split the ball in to tiny bits....they will regularly beat the whole teams...

oh wait, paul dropped out of school at 12...



oh you think your magic beaners will solve drugs, corruption, human greed and the economy?

wow that is amazing!

let me know when it happens

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Scott McD

Vowed never to vote again after the last vote counted for NOTHING!

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That means they've won.

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Scott McD

Yes they have.

The people only have the power to vote. We did. And they still did nothing. And they will get away with it.

Voting again will be just as pointless now...

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^^^^lives in cheap country...sold out the motherland for profits....

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You have to keep voting and voting for a party who will deliver what you want. Or democracy is meaningless. No one said it was easy.

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thommy

but here we are at the point. you are scotish and the Scotland voted for remain.
so WHO ARE the people you are talking about? your people or the english farmers and brainwashed that think they will have an advantage with brexit ?

you guys are really funny. I think even when the vote for brexit would be hold in russia and it would not happen you see that as a prove that EU is against democracy.

but from my point of view they should now leave as fast as possible that the rest of europe can go back to work and don´t have to see this tragedy every day again and again.

britain have voted to leave - the EU have accepted you leave and now you only have to leave - but it seems that nobody ever was thinking about HOW to do that when they startet the referendum. this was more like: we go out from the EU keep all the advantages and the rest of the EU can keep the disadvantages.
sounds like life of brian.

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pimpmaster9000

well they saved 20$/month per person

but probably lost more on all the shit...many of the brexit voters are too dumb for simple math...like paul for example..

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Struggle4Bucks

In Holland the multi liberal lefties won...
That means that Nico probably lost a bet and is now probably sucking cock while making left turns with his tonque around the cock....

Well.... life’s a bitch....

Next...............

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Paul really is a medical wonder boy.... because based on his stupidity and world views, he shouldnt be alive today!

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DraX

I'd say lets wait for Sunday results, you could still be right though. Depends on the stupidity of the masses in Holland. I'm not that familiar with dutch politics.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48394911

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Sissy wants others to fail just as he has...

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pimpmaster9000

you have already failed without even trying...the things you are trying to change are not possible to change...

an individual will always be less productive and weaker than a group of people
patriotism will always end at the wallet
people will always like drugs and every junkie will know where to buy every day in every country forever...
the white man will always throw other white men under the bus in the name of profits


good luck trying to flap your hands and fly...it is very amusing...

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thommy

very true words !

this kind of people want to create a "union" to destroy a union - this simple fact should make them see that they are wrong.

many people start to understand that protest votes will just drive the power into hands that give a fuck on freedom and prosperity. and it MUST end up in many groups that are enemies. history has proven this fact again and again - we should finally learn from it and don´t do the same mistakes again just because some full honks deny history and data we all can see and read.

trump voters will never understand that one trump makes it necessary that every country have an own trump to defend it. nobody needs to be very smart to know where that leads to. or do they really think that someone who wants his country first will accept that another country already have this place?

if this brain cripples get in power the real problem starts because everyone of them will use every possibility to succeed. this is how ALL wars in the world have started.

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thommy

well the result there was not only a win for the liberal.

the dutchs clearly said that they are NOT nico-ts and that they do not want such individuals throwing shit on their country.

wilders expected to double up the seats in the EU parliament. now he lost 3 of the 4 seats he had. how can this people even THINK they are representing a country?
they are representing a small fraction of the dumbest in their country. and the dumbest have never done anything good.

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the EU is basically like a mclaren supercar...the mclaren supercar kicks absolute ass as far as performance goes...but this performance comes at a cost...for example, if you want to change tires on a mclaren, it will cost you 50.000$...you need like 10K for the tires, 20K to rent a track, 10K to get mclaren engineers to do it for you, 10K for mandatory ambulance and rescue crew...50K total...the EXPIRATION TIME on the mclaren tires is 2 years...even if you do 0km...the car will not start until mclaren gives the green light...many parts in the mclaren EXPIRE every 2-5 years...even with 0km...they mother fucking EXPIRE the car will not start...you need $$$

this is the price of performing at a very high level...this principle applies in absolutely everything...ever diminishing returns at extreme levels...

dumb people do not understand this..."mclaren is shit"..."right wing dumb ass can build a better one"..."its simple"

maximum performance is not possible on a "budget" and without significant drawbacks...anybody promising anything contrary to this is a moron...

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On Scotland their choice is simple. Should the UK leave the EU and with bad trading terms, they can have a referendum. They can save 20% of their EU exports to the new EU or 80% of their exports to the UK and lose all the money the UK contributes to Scotland.

On the UK leaving the EU, we agree on something at last.

Whether the UK is worse or better off is academic. The big win is the UK will be free to make it's own laws, it's own trade deals and will not be burdened by the fortunes and wheeling dealing of the EU.

No one on the Leave side ever dreamed the EU would inflict trade restrictions on it's biggest customer, they were wrong. The EU will do anything to ensure they rule Europe from the centre, with 28 people deciding on all future laws.

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What we need is a large number of parties who want to control the EU and give it back to the people. Stop laws being created by only 28 delegates, we know what the rule book says but in practice every country in the EU elects 1 member to a group of 28 who decide what laws gets created. That has to stop because it's undemocratic. We need more power returned to individual nations. So if a country decides to invite in millions of immigrants, that decision isn't dumped on the rest of the EU. If countries spend their way into massive debt, those countries get themselves out of debt or get dumped out of the Euro.

The main problem is politicians and bureaucrats aren't clever enough to run anything as large as the EU. We can see that clearly in America, the present politician is a result of bad leaders, the EU is now facing the fact that none of the present bunch are bright enough to run a bath let alone a country. We also see it with the EU. With endless rules coming out of the EU that are just made to keep bureaucrats looking busy.

Ultimately the choice is do you want to be ruled from the centre for very little benefit or do you want to rule your own country?

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Let's see how the other 27 countries voted. Did the Brexit party do as well as predicted, did Czech, Hungary, Poland, Italy, Austria, Denmark, France, etc. Especially as the landscape has changed so much in the last four years with so many illegal immigrants flooding in and the EU to dumb to face up to the fact that there is a problem.

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thommy

you are babbling nonsense.

how many parties tried to decide over the brexit?
and WHERE did it lead to?

your problem is that you cry for democracy but don´t understand that the BASIC IDEA behind democracy are compromises.
whenever you make a rule you will hurt someone. whenever you delete a rule you will hurt someone.

UK proved that it can not even find a solution when they have it in their own hands.
not even 2 of the parties could find a consensus.
and IF they would find it the others would call it a ripp off because THEIR idea did not make it.

so you might think they all are just idiots. than why do you have a government?


if you want to talk about democracy you should first LEARN what it means.
as all you are talking about you do not have the smallest clue about it.

if YOU who did not even finish basic school are smarter than everyone who studied that shit years and years than the complete system is wrong.
than you should start to burn down all schools in britain and give all kids there the chance to reach your genius level.

you are really one of the dumbest people on this planet - what would not be such a big problem if you would AT LEAST KNOW IT and admit that dumb people should not make decisions for smart people.

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DraX

Geez the self proclaimed genius calling people dumb again and the village idiot claiming EU to be a mclaren supercar.

LOL at you retards...

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The government was more afraid of Forum voor Democratie (FVD) cause 2 months ago they where the biggest with state elections. FVD wants a Nexit referendum and is euro sceptic. They are growing and where the biggest in last Dutch state elections. In just 1 year they got two seats in national parliament, than became the biggest winner in the state elections, and now they will have 3 or 4 seats in EU. The party is only 1,5 year old.

I have the idea Wilders wants to retire. But how can you retire when you need 24/7 security... who will pay. I haven't seen Wilders much. He needs to reform his party, else they will lose more.

So less than 40% voted in Holland, the rest didn't care about the EU. But the votes are being counted now, we had to wait 4 days for the outcome of the elections. While in our sovereign country the outcome has to be published right away. But 1500 volunteers went to the election centers to get the results, so we have a pretty good idea what the outcome will be.

pimpmaster9000

what I wrote was too advanced for you...how would you know that high performing things like the worlds 2nd biggest economy like the EU, demand high costs and sacrifice and compromise?...

I am sure your genius magic beans candidates can do better it is easy success imminent

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Politicians have let the people down.

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The problem with voting for pro-EU candidates is they will never reform or stop the EU in it's power grab. Most politicians agree the EU needs reforming, they must fear losing local power so getting the EU to reform is essential. Or getting out.

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thommy

i agree to this reforming too.
but for me it needs MORE EU and not less.

that already starts from the fact who may vote and who not.
as EU countries still have their national policies we are facing the problem that in some countries citizens can go to vote with 18, in other with 21 and in other with 25.

also every country was able to decide the election day. EU elections started on thursday already in some countries.
you see we are still heavily lack equal norms because there is too much of what you want more.

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I think it will go extreme pro EU and anti EU the coming years. There is no middle party. Parties that say that are different on national level, work together on EU level. It is just a matter of time when it will happen. And than we have just like in the USA two totally different groups of people and some will start hating eachother.

The EU sceptic mostly didn't vote, what would happen if people must vote like in some countries and 95% showed up instead of 40%... They also predict next time Forum voor Democratie (FVD) will be the biggest on national level. That can take 3 years, or maybe there will be elections sooner.

It would be best if there are really european parties people can vote for everywhere. This is a farce. People could only get the feeling that they have some influence if they voted for all parties that run the EU. Now a vote for VVD is same as a vote for CDA (christian party). Or Green Left is same as Socialist Party. Look now, 3 seats for one of the eurosceptic party, they should have been able to get more votes from whole Europe. I would vote Brexit Party. Maybe that is the reason they don't want real democracy. Mostly that ends with a big bang. Just like the 1st, 2nd and 3rd reich.

DraX

Mclaren supercar BWHAHAHAHAH

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thommy

i completely agree with that. for some reason people have to learn AGAIN that in a democracy it is always the way in the middle that does not hurt any side too much.

well if they did not go to vote they can not be THAT sceptic, right?

100% agree - i would appreciate if I can vote also for a party from another country, when I think they have the better ideas. but unfortunately we are far from that as the "we" is not longer than the street one lives in.

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Pretty funny, isn't it? They are like idiot savants without the savant part.

I will be living in Amsterdam again this entire summer so it will be interesting to see how things shake out and if I can notice anything different from last year.

But again: can I still smoke my weed and fuck whores in the Red Light? Then we're all good.

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Well, most red light windows are closed and they are now talking about a red light district fee. Cause people are too dutch; "kijken kijken, niet kopen" (look look, not buy). Still enough to see. Green left is in control and they rather see you not coming to Amsterdam cause tourist are annoying. They even removed the sign "I AMSTERDAM" so tourist won't see it on Instagram. Airbnb is forbidden/reduced.

And you can buy weed, but not smoke with tobacco in some shops. And some coffeeshops now forbid all smoking. Smoking rooms in bars and coffeeshops will be forbidden so people must smoke on the streets. Now you have a mix of coffeeshops, some allow more than others.

Paul Markham

So Europe can get a uniform age for voting and vote on the same day you're willing to accept central rule. Do you have any concrete reasons for central rule?

You're also happy to see more jobs disappear to the 3rd world. Which is causing massive problems already so you'll have to forgive me if I don't think you're serious.

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pimpmaster9000

are people paul markhaming? moving their production to cheap countries like you did?...when are you moving back from that cheap country you are in? never?


paul<-----hypocrite extraordinaire

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That would be the Australian Liberal party winning you know https://www.liberal.org.au/ winner of the last election, the party that brought in gun control, free healthcare and have said they will meet Paris summit goals on emissions targets.

That party? that's the one you red hats have been clucked to support... because they fail to tell you the whole story?

Rightwing was fucking crucified here at the elections, red hats are just too fuckign dumb to see if, as their Murdoch overlord refuses to admit it.

thommy

i have a seroious question for you:

do you sometimes read what you write ?
or are you only writing ghost controlled ?

here is our problem:

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So job vacancies were lower when we used to produce more. Got it.

Also what are the wage increases like over the last ten years across Europe. The EU is slightly more than UK and Germany.

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thommy

see THIS is the problem when a fucking dumb amateur that is unable to read and understand numbers tries to explain the world.

completely WRONG, dumbfuck



again wrong, mister wrong



give up paul - you don´t have ANY argument that a half smart could not destroy within seconds. you are a too easy game.

if the word stupid didn't already exist, they'd have to invent it just for you.

with that you would have been good for something at least once in your life. but even for that you are already too late.

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Wage stagnation in the Europe, UK and Germany

https://www.google.com/search?ei=Zdr....9w6f uGB9Ly8

https://www.google.com/search?ei=g6_...60.DohkK2D5gfE

https://www.google.com/search?ei=RNn...60.gbi8bO3O_qk

Europeans reliant of benefits.

https://www.google.com/search?ei=1Nr...21.nwbnT2RhYkM

Overall wages have increased, but it's for a small percentage of people. The rich are doing fine. Once someone looks closely at the figures we see the middle and lower classes not doing so well.

What Thommy is trying to convince us is, Europe is doing better without all those bothersome industries disappearing to China.

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thommy

paul - there is nothing that can help you to understand facts.
give it up.
you will never understand those things because you are an oxymoron.
you went away from biritain in a country where you can find cheaper workers and lower costs for your life because people there worked for less.

you are the one who receives pensions from UK but you spend them in a EU country because you have a better social net and a much cheaper life. the people IN britain still give this money back into their OWN economy to keep it alive. you do not.

but you want, that those who stay in UK don´t have this benefit. they shall produce t-shirts that they can get from china for a half pound for 10 pound and buy it for 20.
while you spending the money that you receive from UL in a country with much lower costs.

are you not ashamed when you look into the mirror ?

where and when did a loser prove how to be a winner?
I bet 90% of all those refugees who made it over the sea have a far higher IQ than you.
they just did not have the chance to use it. you had this chance but obviously not the IQ.

i have seen too many losers in my life that wanted to tell me how life and business and economy works - you are just one more of this dumb dreamers.

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Wow this does NOT sound good! Red lights and weed are probably the biggest reason people go to Amsterdam. LOL And they removed the I Amsterdam sign??? Insane!!

This will not stop tourists - and gues what? If tourists DO stop coming then Amsterdam/The Netherlands will lose so much money (the only thing all Dutch can agree they love) so what then? Bad times are coming...

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Paul is a dumb shit AHAHAHSHAHAHA!

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What Thommy doesn't mention are some of the following elements that drain U.K. on billions of pounds financially every year:

- corporate business tax planning
- political correctness
- inefficient police and law
- corrupt government decisions
- Immigration
- imported crime

But Paul MUST NOT GO OVERSEA!

Thommy you are an idiot!

Thommy spends most of his time on his knees rubbing pattaya ladyboy nutsacks. His submissive and slave like nutsack rubbing has taught him to escape into a new fantasy world outside his own reality.

Imagine playing world of warcraft 24/7...

It's difficult to be a nutsack scratcher these days cause without the EU nutsack subsidies, life would be very hard for Thommy, leaving EU is therefor not an option.

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