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Old 05-04-2019, 08:45 PM   #1
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LA Times message to Red Hats...

Remember who you were before Trump, what you used to believe in..

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-e...504-story.html



If this country is ever going to disentangle from the Trumpism that’s choking the life out of it, we’re going to need escape routes.

We’ve heard plenty from self-congratulatory Democrats, cerebral #NeverTrumpers and aloof European historians who warn about the perils of authoritarianism in our naive nation.

What we need is advice from people who have been fully enchanted by President Trump’s racism, corruption and assault on the rule of law.

People like Atty. Gen. William Barr, Trump’s latest fixer, though Barr seems prepared to go to his grave in Trump’s harness.

But really, we don’t have to wait for Barr’s white-light conversion. We have three extraordinary examples of figures who broke free of Trumpism and the man himself. Trumpism is such a totalizing belief system that the country is going to require a thorough, even spiritual, metamorphosis.

The first heretic is Michael Cohen, Trump’s formerly slavish Guy Friday. The second is James Comey, the self-righteous former director of the FBI, who wrote an op-ed this week that probed Barr’s and former Deputy Atty. Gen. Rod Rosenstein’s appalling submission to Trump — as well as his own.

The third is Katie McHugh, a former avatar of the alt-right and suck-up to the Trump family. According to a riveting profile by Rosie Gray in BuzzFeed News, McHugh has renounced what she now sees, in a rigorous religious framework, as her sins.

Two months ago, Cohen’s testimony to Congress about his fall into Trump’s clutches also had a religious note. Swept up in Trump’s nonstop bellowing, Cohen felt complicit, intoxicated; he began to lie for him. Now he’s especially ashamed of enabling Trump’s florid racism, which he sees as an affront to his father, who escaped the racist genocide in Nazi Germany.

Reaffirming his commitment to the values he shares with his family — and facing prison — Cohen had to hit bottom to clear his mind.

Comey had to just about bottom out too before he caught himself. After he lost Trump’s support and was dramatically fired as FBI director two years ago, he discovered that he had bent his carefully cultivated Methodist rectitude to the pressure to back-slap with the president.

According to his op-ed, when Trump raved to him about his fever dreams — “largest inauguration crowd in history” — Comey stayed silent, too cowed to challenge him.

Trump “eats your soul,” said Comey, and you end up making various deals with yourself and the devil. “You can’t say this out loud — maybe not even to your family,” he wrote.

Like Cohen, Comey felt that in standing by Trump he was betraying not just his conscience but his family.

The far-right blogger McHugh, a onetime protege of former Trump advisor Stephen K. Bannon, has a more tragic story than either Cohen or Comey, but she’s also the one who has done the most to make amends.

Lost and isolated at a liberal arts college in Pennsylvania, the conservative McHugh, according to Gray’s profile, moved from supply-side economics and family values to hotter niches, like, say, Holocaust denial. Her undergraduate antics drew the attention of the alt-right godfathers, including Bannon, who gave her a job at Breitbart News.

While boosting Trump, her posts helped pioneer a scrappy, reckless new kind of Twitter-optimized racism. Then she went too far even for Breitbart in a tweet about Muslims and had to ply her wares at seedier and seedier joints, pushing the far-far-far-right boundaries of white supremacy.



Finally, without health insurance and suffering from diabetes, McHugh found that her strategy of moving further right to get attention and jobs failed her. It was the 5th century works of St. Augustine that brought her back. If she renounced her misdeeds and recommitted herself to a dignified life, she, too, could be forgiven.

McHugh did more than that, though. She turned over to Gray emails showing former Department of Homeland Security official Ian Smith’s ties to white nationalists, and Gray’s resulting article helped get Smith fired.

This is how escapees from Trumpism can help break its spell for the more casual devotees: Expose what the high-ranking Trumpers espouse in order to enlighten the members of the fabled base about their mistakes.

At the very least, Trumpites seem to recognize that they will need to atone. Even Trump’s mouthpiece lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani may see the writing on the wall. He told a reporter, “I am afraid it will be on my gravestone. ‘Rudy Giuliani: He lied for Trump.’”

To all Trumpites — rank-and-file or highly public — who likewise may be starting to grapple with what will happen to them when they meet their makers, Cohen, Comey and McHugh offer guidance: Remember who you were and what you stood for — before Donald and before it’s too late. For you and the nation.






You are part of a cult, you don't see this because those who are in cults almost never see it, But everyone outside sees it... Remember who you were, what you believed in what you stood for before Trump..
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Old 05-05-2019, 09:35 AM   #2
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Bump for Red Hats that wont read it anyway...
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What a load of bullshit.

A journalist afixing "cultist" to describe people who supported and voted for Trump because they were so disenchanted with the status quo and simply thought nothing would change by voting for Clinton.

Akin to our situation in Canada, Americans were fubar'd during the last federal election with a choice of voting for whoever they deemed to be "the lesser asshole". We're left with the distinct impression that although people considered Trump repugnant...they viewed Hillary as representing the antithesis of change. Even knowing, understanding and acknowledging all of Trump's faults - voters still couldn't bring themselves to put Hillary in power.

Sadly, that's the state of politics today - having to vote for the least assholish on the list. No matter the outcome...it was bound to polarize the nation.

Yeah, Donald Trump is a certifiable fuckstick and largely a waste of oxygen that has arguably done more damage than benefit for the average person.

But only a crystal ball could tell you what four years under Hillary would've looked like.



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What a load of bullshit.

A journalist afixing "cultist" to describe people who supported and voted for Trump because they were so disenchanted with the status quo and simply thought nothing would change by voting for Clinton.

Akin to our situation in Canada, Americans were fubar'd during the last federal election with a choice of voting for whoever they deemed to be "the lesser asshole". We're left with the distinct impression that although people considered Trump repugnant...they viewed Hillary as representing the antithesis of change. Even knowing, understanding and acknowledging all of Trump's faults - voters still couldn't bring themselves to put Hillary in power.

Sadly, that's the state of politics today - having to vote for the least assholish on the list. No matter the outcome...it was bound to polarize the nation.

Yeah, Donald Trump is a certifiable fuckstick and largely a waste of oxygen that has arguably done more damage than benefit for the average person.

But only a crystal ball could tell you what four years under Hillary would've looked like.



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You can't read Matt26z, Onehunglo, vendildo, grapes ect..ect posts and not think they are cult members can you? I mean honestly dude..


The right wing is 100% the problem... they went absolutely bat shit crazy under Obama because a black man being president confirmed that they would soon the the minority. Trump just helped feed this hysteria as did all the right wing media and now today we have right wing terrorist shooting and killing people like crazed lunatics in nearly weekly events...



You don't see the left running around shooting people every other week because they disagree with someone's opinion.. We don't see the left denying science, denying history, claiming all the news we don't like is fake..

You don't see Democrat politicians being locked up every week for corruption or raping little girls. You don't see Democrats ignoring our laws and Constitution.. I mean sure once in a while a Democrat does something bad but it's the fucking norm with Republicans..

the right wing is 100% a cult... You don't want to hear these words because you support the right wing. You are making typical excuses because you don't want to accept the facts..

I couldn't stand Hillary, but she sure as hell wouldn't have created this disaster that Trump has...
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You can't read Matt26z, Onehunglo, vendildo, grapes ect..ect posts and not think they are cult members can you? I mean honestly dude..
I don't read their tripe. Perhaps that's part of your problem.

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I couldn't stand Hillary, but she sure as hell wouldn't have created this disaster that Trump has...
Crystal ball time.
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I don't read their tripe. Perhaps that's part of your problem.



Crystal ball time.

Of course you can't see it because you're part of the cult.. see how that works?


example.. this is acceptable to you...









I bet if those BLM guys were wearing T-shirts saying

"Rope - Tree- Whiteboy"
Some assembly required"


You'd be pretty outraged...



If they were holding signs with Trump's picture and a target on his face you'd be outraged...



Yet you aren't outraged about those pictures I posted... hence you are the problem..



Just a random search on google.... some far right extremism blog...


https://powergrid.news/2019-03-28-wh...civil-war.html



Again this is acceptable to you... Yet imagine if it was "liberals" doing and saying it.. You'd be outraged..


Civil War Two is rapidly emerging as an inevitable reality, given that deranged Leftists have now convincingly demonstrated they cannot coexist with anyone else in a civil society. Left-wing operatives (lawmakers, fake news journo-terrorists and deep state actors) are lawless liars, frauds, hoaxers and destroyers of civilization. They steal elections, push fake news narratives, brainwash the public with deliberate lies and indoctrinate children with hatred for their own country. They are pedophiles, child traffickers, charlatans and tyrants. The Left, as I’ve said before, is a “suicide cult,” and they will not stop until they have criminalized, marginalized or mass murdered everyone who opposes their authoritarian rule. (Face it: Two years ago you wouldn’t have believed this, but now you know it’s true.)



^^^ does that sound like a sane and logical writing? Yet it's the norm to the far right extremist you make excuses for..

again "You" are the problem because "you" help normalize them..
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I must apologize Crockett.

In my earlier posts I used a few multi-syllabic words.

I should have kept them more simplistic - as its now evident I'm conversing with a 12yr. old.

Carry on. Have a nice day.
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That was a great article

I don't remember ever hearing about Katie McHugh. Her story is very compelling.

A few people on here who used to be normal, by porn industry standards, have turned into complete Trump deep-ass cleaners and it's sad.

Robbie used to be the cool musician porn dude, now he has no problem with the government attacking our industry because it's Trump doing it. Robbie doesn't care that Trump signed the anti porn pledge with the religious right. It's sad really.

Paul Markham changed to a Trump cultist. He went from talking about the good old days and where porn is headed to talking about white culture being Superior to all other cultures except maybe the Chinese. He started talking about dirty stupid non white immigrants, etc. A total 180 from a kinder gentler Paul. Now I think I might be seeing him slowly very back to normalcy and not as much a cultist as the rest.

If their change was just about ideology that's fine asthma talking politics no big deal. The change has been from normal kind people to hateful people. That's what's disturbing they turned into hateful mean people Hawaiian bad things to happen to people who are in their group. That's not cool.

Caging babies? No problem as long as they're not white unless it's a white liberal baby. Sad
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I must apologize Crockett.

In my earlier posts I used a few multi-syllabic words.

I should have kept them more simplistic - as its now evident I'm conversing with a 12yr. old.

Carry on. Have a nice day.

Again you are the problem.. as you can't accept it when people show you what you are supporting, what you are normalizing.. you run away and make excuses.. It's everyone else fault not yours... but imagine your outrage if Obama had done these things and it was Democrats who were calling for a civil war...

Imagine if it was your left leaning leadership in your country doing and saying these things.. you'd be outraged.. but instead it's Trump, it's the right wing and you make excuses..
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What a load of bullshit.

A journalist afixing "cultist" to describe people who supported and voted for Trump because they were so disenchanted with the status quo and simply thought nothing would change by voting for Clinton.

Akin to our situation in Canada, Americans were fubar'd during the last federal election with a choice of voting for whoever they deemed to be "the lesser asshole". We're left with the distinct impression that although people considered Trump repugnant...they viewed Hillary as representing the antithesis of change. Even knowing, understanding and acknowledging all of Trump's faults - voters still couldn't bring themselves to put Hillary in power.

Sadly, that's the state of politics today - having to vote for the least assholish on the list. No matter the outcome...it was bound to polarize the nation.

Yeah, Donald Trump is a certifiable fuckstick and largely a waste of oxygen that has arguably done more damage than benefit for the average person.

But only a crystal ball could tell you what four years under Hillary would've looked like.



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I've heard this analysis before and it has one severe flaw... Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by 3 million votes.

So American voters overwhelmingly wanted what Hillary Clinton was selling. American voters did NOT want what Trump was selling.

The American people chose Hillary Clinton over Trump, by 3,000,000 votes.

American people chose sanity over insanity by 3,000,000 votes.

The American people chose a woman over a man to be president of the United States by 3,000,000 votes.

304 people in the corrupt Electoral College overrode the vote of the 66 million Clinton voter majority, over Trump's 63 million minority votes, and installed Trump as POTUS, despite the majority vote of American citizens.

So to put it simply whenever you reference what the American people wanted the American people majority voted that they wanted Hillary Clinton as president and they like what she was selling.
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I've heard this analysis before and it has one severe flaw... Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by 3 million votes.

So American voters overwhelmingly wanted what Hillary Clinton was selling. American voters did NOT want what Trump was selling.

The American people chose Hillary Clinton over Trump, by 3,000,000 votes.

American people chose sanity over insanity by 3,000,000 votes.

The American people chose a woman over a man to be president of the United States by 3,000,000 votes.

304 people in the corrupt Electoral College overrode the vote of the 66 million Clinton voter majority, over Trump's 63 million minority votes, and installed Trump as POTUS.

So to put it simply whenever you reference what the American people wanted the American people majority voted that they wanted Hillary Clinton as president and they like what she was selling.


To be quite honest is was a much bigger spread than 3 million votes because we know that states like GA, FL, TX, NC, SC ect ect have done everything possible to stop minority voters from voting.

In fact in North Dakota a entire Indian tribe was barred from voting because the reservation they live on using PO boxes as addresses.. (yet Red Hats make excuses and normalize this)

https://www.npr.org/2018/10/13/65712...polling-places

Hillary would have won by far more than 3 million votes if "all" votes were counted. It still wouldn't have overturned the electoral college but it would have shown even a bigger spread in the popular vote..
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Imagine if left wing people did this , made up fake crimes to try and take down right wing politicians.. made fake crimes to try and take down a FBI agent..


Remember the weeks of outrage about the "gay black liberal" who claimed he was beat up.. was weeks of coverage on Fox News and red hats making posts daily


Meanwhile...

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/05/media...ory/index.html


This was a Right wing extremist so "no problem lets just excuse it away" we can say ...but..but the emails fake news... liberals baddd... no biggie.. too bad they didn't get away with it...
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To be quite honest is was a much bigger spread than 3 million votes because we know that states like GA, FL, TX, NC, SC ect ect have done everything possible to stop minority voters from voting.

In fact in North Dakota a entire Indian tribe was barred from voting because the reservation they live on using PO boxes as addresses.. (yet Red Hats make excuses and normalize this)

https://www.npr.org/2018/10/13/65712...polling-places

Hillary would have won by far more than 3 million votes if "all" votes were counted. It still wouldn't have overturned the electoral college but it would have shown even a bigger spread in the popular vote..
Imagine in the future , maybe 2020, where a candidate wins the popular vote by more than a 20 million vote margin, and the electoral college installs the one who lost by 20,000,000 votes. How bad is it going to get before people start rioting in the streets question how bad is it going to get before they dismantle the Electoral College?

Trump was tweeting about the corrupt Electoral College for years and years and years until the Electoral College installed him president, now he thinks it's dandy
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I couldn't stand Hillary, but she sure as hell wouldn't have created this disaster that Trump has...
What a delusional lunatic you are.

Disaster? One of the greatest economies in the last 40 years a disaster?

The only disaster is in your head when you wake up everyday and you realize Trump is your president.

Get over it. Trump is doing an awesome job.
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What a delusional lunatic you are.

Disaster? One of the greatest economies in the last 40 years a disaster?

The only disaster is in your head when you wake up everyday and you realize Trump is your president.

Get over it. Trump is doing an awesome job.
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How was church today? Are you Catholic?
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What a delusional lunatic you are.

Disaster? One of the greatest economies in the last 40 years a disaster?

The only disaster is in your head when you wake up everyday and you realize Trump is your president.

Get over it. Trump is doing an awesome job.
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^^ Believes a supreme being created everything yet it favors one group of people over another. It's impossible to converse with this level of stupidity.
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lol what a shocker bladewire thought the article was great. I read 25% and you can both shove it!
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oh look, the city thats created the nations largest homeless problem in one of the worlds largest economies.... has opinions on economics and politics. kinda cute really.
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you were born on the bottom rung, you'll die on the bottom rung. Its not the red hats' fault. its simple genetics. you're stupid and nothing is going to change that. I'm glad you can post nonsensical links here on GFY to blow off steam.
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Old 05-06-2019, 12:19 PM   #27
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my religious beliefs don't change your position in life.
That's obviously a yes... although I think he's too fat and lazy to actually show up in church though.... He's one of those tattoo christains.. probably has a tattoo of a cross on him arm..
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Old 05-06-2019, 12:21 PM   #28
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That's obviously a yes... although I think he's too fat and lazy to actually show up in church though.... He's one of those tattoo christains.. probably has a tattoo of a cross on him arm..
of course its a yes, bottom runger. Thats not the point. The point is that my religious beliefs aren't why you're a loser.
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of course its a yes, bottom runger. Thats not the point. The point is that my religious beliefs aren't why you're a loser.
That's fine, but let's talk about you being in a cult. You do realize that Dear leader is getting impeached right? You do realize dear leader has obstructed justice and worked with a forgien govt to undermine our election?
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That's fine, but let's talk about you being in a cult. You do realize that Dear leader is getting impeached right? You do realize dear leader has obstructed justice and worked with a forgien govt to undermine our election?
None of that matters to them.

Trump could shoot a white baby dead on 5th avenue in live TV and he wouldn't lose one single vote.
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If you read the Mueller report there was DIRECT COLLUSION. Over and over and over again, there was DIRECT COLLUSION. There is no mistake about it, no wiggle room, no argument, no debate. There was direct collusion.
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Hey goyim, remember who you are. Support tax cuts for the rich, cheap labor for corporations, and unquestioning support for Israel. Not this guy Trump who is against all that.
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Hey goyim, remember who you are. Support tax cuts for the rich, cheap labor for corporations, and unquestioning support for Israel. Not this guy Trump who is against all that.
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Not sure if serious...
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If this country is ever going to disentangle from the Trumpism.
only you and CNN even worry trump...
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If you read the Mueller report there was DIRECT COLLUSION. Over and over and over again, there was DIRECT COLLUSION. There is no mistake about it, no wiggle room, no argument, no debate. There was direct collusion.
I seem to have missed the part in the marine corps oath about it's okay to attack the president of the united states, the commander and chief on a daily basis...

you go marine!! the corps is proud of you!!
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oh look, the city thats created the nations largest homeless problem in one of the worlds largest economies.... has opinions on economics and politics. kinda cute really.
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That's fine, but let's talk about you being in a cult. You do realize that Dear leader is getting impeached right? You do realize dear leader has obstructed justice and worked with a forgien govt to undermine our election?
2 years, 106 days, 7 hours, 13 minutes and 5 seconds ...

that's the time trump has been in office...

so that is 810 times you have posted complete bullshit that you read on the internet. .. you really are clueless aren't you??? maybe your mom should monitor your online usage??


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I seem to have missed the part in the marine corps oath about it's okay to attack the president of the united states, the commander and chief on a daily basis...

you go marine!! the corps is proud of you!!
There you are..... How strange. I thought maybe you had forgotten about GFY. I am still waiting for answers from you.

Also... It seems to me you fail to understand my "oath". It says in part....

I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic....

I will defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, just like my father when he gave his life for his country in Vietnam and just like my grandfather did.

However.... The Mueller report details how Trump and his campaign worked hand in hand with the Russian government to rig an election. His campaign manager was having secret meetings to pass over secret polling data, having his staff send over encrypted information to the Russians (and then deleting it), secret meetings with Trump's kid in the Trump Tower, and another campaign employee flying to Europe for secret meetings with not one, not two, but three different Russian agents. And there is so much more.

Just in case you don't believe me, here is the Mueller report:
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2019/images/...searchable.pdf
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Only you and FOX News watchers support Trump.


Trump’s support comes almost entirely from Fox News viewers: report
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I seem to have missed the part in the marine corps oath about it's okay to attack the president of the united states, the commander and chief on a daily basis...

you go marine!! the corps is proud of you!!
I guess we should lock vendilldo up then?
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