Which one of you fucks is running bots to dating and cam sites and

[Phoenix]

Then sending the users cc's to use to sign up with?
bad bad bad

[Phoenix]

Okay baby you like me,do you want sex then contact me here my private profile< Get Laid Tonight >just put age 25+ free sign up and get my number then call me & meet me No need your Card. if want my card for join then here is my card
MasterCard: 5309-5879-8745-9363
Expires : 03/19
CVC2 : 658
You can use my card and give me your join ID

someone check whos link that is

[AdultKing]

Shit that's pretty bad.

[klinton]

smart tricky scammers

[Phoenix]

who just got the latest e card site up...like virtual visas and shit....i bet we can find them

[CjTheFish]

Huh. How does that work? Who pays the CC?

I'm not well versed in virtual CC's.

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by CjTheFish

Huh. How does that work? Who pays the CC?

I'm not well versed in virtual CC's.

i am pretty sure they join on a trial...and then cancel...the cost must work for them to do it

[klinton]

so in today's adult biz, people not only get free porn, but even if they want to pay for something, they get free cards

priceless

[magneto664]

push me a reason
WHY somebody do this?

[xxx6live]

Or could it be stolen cards where they get the money from the chat, and you, using the card, gets the police knocking on your door?

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by xxx6live

Or could it be stolen cards where they get the money from the chat, and you, using the card, gets the police knocking on your door?

That's not sustainable, because of chargebacks.

Prepaid cards are more likely and would add to the longevity of this approach.

[Bladewire]

↑↑↑ Truth

[EddyTheDog]

I'm not sure I get this either - If they are prepaid cards then why not use the cards numbers yourself?..

EDIT: I'm assuming the scam is they get paid PPS for a trial?....

[xxx6live]

Ok, but who earns money and how? I am slow today...

edit, ok maybe PPS...

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

I'm not sure I get this either - If they are prepaid cards then why not use the cards numbers yourself?..

Geographical distribution, email address distribution, all from ISPs and not server networks.

[Diomed]

Prepaid cards my ass..

These scammers have access to endless cards online, or could even be harvesting them.

Most likely have a sponsor with burnable/rotating mids, who's looking the other way. (Even low $15/20 PPS payouts here will equate to more cash than a $60 PPS at a high scrub rate).

Don't see how even with an innocent sponsor how PPS wouldn't catch up almost immediately. Even with the quickest turn aound in pay periods. Flags would fly.

What's I've always found weird is to see these operations go to such trouble with bot networks and flub the pitch with zero effort/continuity of pitch.

"Chat sales" have gained a lot of ground in the days of social media, especially when media buyers/traffic networks are pricing out the small guys.

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Diomed

Prepaid cards my ass..

These scammers have access to endless cards online, or could even be harvesting them.

Most likely have a sponsor with burnable/rotating mids, who's looking the other way. (Even low $15/20 PPS payouts here will equate to more cash than a $60 PPS at a high scrub rate).

Don't see how even with an innocent sponsor how PPS wouldn't catch up almost immediately. Even with the quickest turn aound in pay periods. Flags would fly.

What's I've always found weird is to see these operations go to such trouble with bot networks and flub the pitch with zero effort/continuity of pitch.

"Chat sales" have gained a lot of ground in the days of social media, especially when media buyers/traffic networks are pricing out the small guys.

I doubt a sponsor is on board with this. I bet they are rotating through as many sponsors as possible and using networks as well.
They likely mix in regular sales to ensure some payment rounds.

[Phoenix]

I do think they are working with a virtual card provider though

[PornDiscounts-V]

Hmm..

So load with the trial payment. Ask someone to signup and give you their ID# so you can see that the trail was used. If they try to buy a bike for their kid the card doesn't have any money left. $70 PPS... They needed the extreme beauty of reality... which is a real IP from a real location and address and name and it all doesn't look like fraud.

Could work on a small scale. Can't see it scaling very big. And after awhile they will convert you to revshare because none of your people stick around. So would never be a $100K idea...

[Diomed]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

I doubt a sponsor is on board with this. I bet they are rotating through as many sponsors as possible and using networks as well.
They likely mix in regular sales to ensure some payment rounds.

Mixing paid/organic traffic with bot/chat sales is definitely common practice, but even through rotating sponsors and masking through resellers this method is so agregious that I have a hard time believing they wouldn't burn through them pretty quick.

Charge backs are almost on automation these days.. Hard to believe anyone carding joins these days gets paid with any type of consistency/scalability. Which is why I would suspect a mid rotating/burning "back room" sponsor.

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Diomed

Mixing paid/organic traffic with bot/chat sales is definitely common practice, but even through rotating sponsors and masking through resellers this method is so agregious that I have a hard time believing they wouldn't burn through them pretty quick.

Charge backs are almost on automation these days.. Hard to believe anyone carding joins these days gets paid with any type of consistency/scalability. Which is why I would suspect a mid rotating/burning "back room" sponsor.

Damn...that sponsor is burning everyone then

[NYRangers]

It's an affiliate scam. Common through affiliate networks and Philippine chatters. These cunts trick idiots into putting in their credit card number on a fake page. Then these fucks share the cards among themselves and sign up.

Fraud and chargeback Hell. You might be surprised how many of these companies exist.

[crockett]

I'm just a sexy girl ..

[Diomed]

The difference is the carding.

There are still some phillipino firms who work from scripts but most indeed are playing foul.

[freecartoonporn]

thats some next level shit.

no need to buy proxy, email accounts.,

[Diomed]

Pitch script: 1/10

Pitch angle: 1/10

Link conveyance: 1/10

Lander continuity: 1/10

Giving away cards to join via local geos: 10/10 (still awful cunts)

Ability to pull a comprehensive pitch with proper continuity: 1/10

Rest easy knowing these dumb dumbs are only doing 1/10th the damage that they could. Fucking phillipinos..

[Phoenix]

{
"number": {
"length": 16,
"luhn": true
},
"scheme": "visa",
"type": "debit",
"brand": "Visa/Dankort",
"prepaid": false,
"country": {
"numeric": "208",
"alpha2": "DK",
"name": "Denmark",
"emoji": "����",
"currency": "DKK",
"latitude": 56,
"longitude": 10
},
"bank": {
"name": "Jyske Bank",
"url": "www.jyskebank.dk",
"phone": "+4589893300",
"city": "Hjørring"
}
}

[CjTheFish]

Apparently you can buy stolen CC's on the deep web for as low as $1. Perhaps they are purchasing those and doing some sort of PPS trial.

[AdultKing]

Dankse Bank seem to offer a debit card but it doesn't look like it's prepaid.

https://danskebank.dk/en-dk/Personal...a-Dankort.aspx