U.S. envoy to the coalition against ISIS quits in protest of Trump

[Bladewire]

Trump lies and says ISIS is defeated.

The guy on the ground, in charge of defeating ISIS, says IS IS is not defeated, and quits.

On a side note, for two years while running Trump said he will never notify our enemies about our upcoming military actions, and here Trump is announcing three months in advance that we're leaving ISIS. What the fuck is wrong with that fucking porkchop bonspurs fool?

"McGurk said in a resignation letter to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo that ISIS was on the run, but wasn’t yet defeated and that U.S. work in Syria wasn’t yet done."

Brett McGurk, US envoy to anti-ISIS coalition, resigns in wake of Trump decision to pull troops from Syria | FoxNews

Brett McGurk, the U.S. envoy for the global coalition to defeat Islamic State (ISIS), has resigned in the wake of President Trump’s decision to pull U.S. troops out of Syria, Fox News confirmed Saturday -- coming on the heels of the resignation of Defense Secretary Jim Mattis earlier this week.

U.S. officials said this week that the Trump administration is making plans to pull all 2,000 troops out of Syria, and Trump later tweeted that “we have defeated ISIS in Syria, my only reason for being there during the Trump Presidency.”


Ground troops moved into Syria in 2015 to combat ISIS in the region, amid an escalating Syrian civil war. Trump had talked about pulling out of Syria before, but military leaders had warned about ISIS re-emerging should the U.S. do so. There is also concern about abandoning the U.S.' Kurdish allies.

On Thursday, Trump announced that Mattis was retiring in February. Mattis’ resignation letter said that Trump had a right to a Defense Secretary “whose views are better aligned with yours” on policy. Sources told Fox News this week that Mattis' resignation was "in protest" over the president's national security policies and that more resignations could be coming.

The Associated Press reported that McGurk said in a resignation letter to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo that ISIS was on the run, but wasn’t yet defeated and that U.S. work in Syria wasn’t yet done. Fox News has confirmed that McGurk submitted his resignation letter on Friday, a day after Secretary Mattis resigned. His resignation is effective December 31. His resignation was first reported by CBS News.

McGurk, appointed by former President Barack Obama in 2015, had said in a Dec. 11 press conference that it would be "reckless" to consider ISIS defeated and that the “enduring defeat of a group like this means you can’t just defeat their physical space and then leave.”

“Nobody is saying that they are going to disappear. Nobody is that naive,” he told reporters. “So we want to stay on the ground and make sure that stability can be maintained in these areas.”

An official told the Associated Press that McGurk was planning to leave the job in mid-February, but felt he could no longer continue after Trump’s decision and Mattis’ resignation.

McGurk previously served as a deputy assistant secretary of state for Iraq and Iran, and led secret side talks with Iran about the release of American prisoners during the negotiations for the Iran nuclear deal.

McGurk had previously worked as a Supreme Court law clerk to the late Chief Justice William Rehnquist. He had also served on former President George W. Bush’s National Security Council staff, where in 2007 and 2008, he was the lead U.S. negotiator on security agreements with Iraq.

McGurk’s departure is the latest sign of criticism from Trump’s allies in his administration, and in Congress, for the decision.

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C. recently blasted Trump for his decision to pull troops out of Syria, calling it an "Obama-like decision" -- an allusion to Obama's decision to pull troops from Iraq in 2011. In return, Trump fired back, saying it was difficult to understand why Graham would be against saving countless lives.

"So hard to believe that Lindsey Graham would be against saving soldier lives & billions of $$$. Why are we fighting for our enemy, Syria, by staying & killing ISIS for them, Russia, Iran & other locals? Time to focus on our Country & bring our youth back home where they belong!" Trump tweeted.

On Saturday, Trump said that ISIS is “largely defeated” and that other countries, such as Turkey could take care of whatever is left.

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

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“Nobody is saying that they are going to disappear. Nobody is that naive,” he told reporters. “So we want to stay on the ground and make sure that stability can be maintained in these areas.”

An official told the Associated Press that McGurk was planning to leave the job in mid-February, but felt he could no longer continue after Trump’s decision and Mattis’ resignation.
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"So hard to believe that Lindsey Graham would be against saving soldier lives & billions of $$$. Why are we fighting for our enemy, Syria, by staying & killing ISIS for them, Russia, Iran & other locals? Time to focus on our Country & bring our youth back home where they belong!" Trump tweeted.
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Big military structures in nuclear time don't provide safety and security for ordinary peoples. When they trying justification their existence, even can be dangerous for them and for their wallets.

[Acepimp]

ISIS lost 95% of their territory, as of a year ago. They are mostly defeated.

[Bladewire]

American Trump supporters disagree with him on some things.

Notice the GFY alt-right hate fake nic troll agrees with Trump on every single thing. So fake. He's the most incompetent online hate troll I have ever seen

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by Acepimp

ISIS lost 95% of their territory, as of a year ago. They are mostly defeated.

lost all territory and units and was fired

[kane]

Originally Posted by Acepimp

ISIS lost 95% of their territory, as of a year ago. They are mostly defeated.

If you remove "most" of the weeds from your yard, it's not going to be long before you have a yard full of weeds again.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Acepimp

ISIS lost 95% of their territory, as of a year ago. They are mostly defeated.

Trump tries to take credit for something he didn't accomplish. Yes, as of a year ago they lost 95% of their territory. ISIS loss of territory started over a year BEFORE Trump took office.

This is what Trump does. He does absolutely nothing and then takes credit for it. He is taking credit for the economy but did nothing to help it. Trump walked into office with a perfect economy. At the same time, Trump walked into office with ISIS losing huge amounts of territory shortly before he took office.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Trump tries to take credit for something he didn't accomplish. Yes, as of a year ago they lost 95% of their territory. ISIS loss of territory started over a year BEFORE Trump took office.

This is what Trump does. He does absolutely nothing and then takes credit for it. He is taking credit for the economy but did nothing to help it. Trump walked into office with a perfect economy. At the same time, Trump walked into office with ISIS losing huge amounts of territory shortly before he took office.

As of August the military reported 30,000 ISIS members dispersed throughout Syria & Iraq.

Their physical caliphate was taken over but the people are still there and need to be killed.

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

As of August the military reported 30,000 ISIS members dispersed throughout Syria & Iraq.

Their physical caliphate was taken over but the people are still there and need to be killed.

EU will take refugees

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by kane

If you remove "most" of the weeds from your yard, it's not going to be long before you have a yard full of weeds again.

If it's a drought the weeds die. The money and arms supply is gone.. Obama left office 2 years ago and there's new leadership in SA... No funds, no fight. I paid less than $2 at the pump tonight..

[TheSquealer]

[Paul Markham]

Do any of the liberals think foreign troops in the ME can win the peace?

That means an end to the terrorist groups whatever they are called.

If the answer is yes explain how, if the answer is no. Then explain what we are doing there.

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Do any of the liberals think foreign troops in the ME can win the peace?

That means an end to the terrorist groups whatever they are called.

If the answer is yes explain how, if the answer is no. Then explain what we are doing there.

Why don't you explain your own opinions?

[Busty2]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

If it's a drought the weeds die. The money and arms supply is gone.. Obama left office 2 years ago and there's new leadership in SA... No funds, no fight. I paid less than $2 at the pump tonight..

Wow wrong again!
Weed seeds can survive in the ground for 130 years or more without water !


Weeds can be prolific seed producers, which means if a single plant is allowed to go to seed, its impact may be felt for many years to come. One example: the broadleaf weed Palmer amaranth has been found to produce as many as a million seeds per plant, this applies to ISIS!

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

Why don't you explain your own opinions?

It's not an opinion, it's fact.

No one can win a war in Afghanistan.

For centuries they have fought each other and only united when someone tried to occupy the country be they helpful or oppressing. The British couldn't do it and later the Russians failed. So getting out is the only option and as it holds no real significance we lose little. Should they harbour groups like Al Qaeda then bomb the fuck out of them.

This is the same in the ME unless an occupying force is willing to use draconian measures to suppress all resistance. Present and past leaders have learned that lesson or have been over thrown in favour of leaders who will use draconian methods to suppress opposition.

However the ME is important to the West for oil.

So the only alternative is to befriend the Muslim leaders who are friendly to the West and allow them to use methods we despise. This is what we do in Saudi and a few other countries. Then should rebel groups threaten they are to be dealt with over whelming force, by local troops supported with Western technology.

The problem with this solution is the media and the liberals who peddle a myth that we can be nice and win. A policy doomed to fail.

[celandina]

What is needed is the Genghis Khan method converted into modern times....nuke them

[crockett]

Trump says he doesn't even know who this guy was... The head guy in charge of fighting ISIS and Trump has no clue who he is...

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4...ould-scare-the


Trump is too fucking incompetent to run this country or a fucking McDonald's. He needs to go..

[crockett]

Originally Posted by celandina

What is needed is the Genghis Khan method converted into modern times....nuke them

Modern day Genghis Khan...

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

It's not an opinion, it's fact.

No one can win a war in Afghanistan.

For centuries they have fought each other and only united when someone tried to occupy the country be they helpful or oppressing. The British couldn't do it and later the Russians failed. So getting out is the only option and as it holds no real significance we lose little. Should they harbour groups like Al Qaeda then bomb the fuck out of them.

This is the same in the ME unless an occupying force is willing to use draconian measures to suppress all resistance. Present and past leaders have learned that lesson or have been over thrown in favour of leaders who will use draconian methods to suppress opposition.

However the ME is important to the West for oil.

So the only alternative is to befriend the Muslim leaders who are friendly to the West and allow them to use methods we despise. This is what we do in Saudi and a few other countries. Then should rebel groups threaten they are to be dealt with over whelming force, by local troops supported with Western technology.

The problem with this solution is the media and the liberals who peddle a myth that we can be nice and win. A policy doomed to fail.

draconian measures.



I'm pretty sure Russia and Assad has used draconian measures.. Doesn't get anymore draconian than dropping barrels full of TNT on civilians and hospitals..


The problem with that idea is not all people there are like that. There are lots of normal people there.. Its the extremist which are the problem..

It doesn't matter how draconian you get with that kind of person they will never stop. Try to go argue with some religious nutter and tell them there is no god..

Now put that same guy in a situation where he can oppress others with weapons.. The Christians would do the same things if they were in q country like Afghanistan when they were free to impose their will on others..

Look what the Jews do to the Palestinians and vice versa.. There is no holier than thou when it comes to religion.

It's all about keeping them controlled. If they are free to run amok they will always go to the extremes. The only thing that keeps them in line is rule of law..

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Another fool who fell for the clickbait.

You really should check your facts before repeating anything wittered by one of the Trump criminals.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Busty2

Wow wrong again!
Weed seeds can survive in the ground for 130 years or more without water !


Weeds can be prolific seed producers, which means if a single plant is allowed to go to seed, its impact may be felt for many years to come. One example: the broadleaf weed Palmer amaranth has been found to produce as many as a million seeds per plant, this applies to ISIS!

"can survive without water" CAN'T "thrive without water" No supply, no thrive. No flow, no grow.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by NewNick

Another fool who fell for the clickbait.

You really should check your facts before repeating anything wittered by one of the Trump criminals.

He's here to lie and spread disinformation with all his fake nics. He's a lonely alt-right hate fake nic troll and being a loser spreading lies & anger online makes him feel like he has a purpose.

[Acepimp]

Originally Posted by NewNick

Another fool who fell for the clickbait.

You really should check your facts before repeating anything wittered by one of the Trump criminals.

Originally Posted by Bladewire

He's here to lie and spread disinformation with all his fake nics. He's a lonely alt-right hate fake nic troll and being a loser spreading lies & anger online makes him feel like he has a purpose.

Oh really? Which part is untrue??

The journalist admitted to “partial fabrications in at least 14 of nearly 60 articles” he wrote for the weekly, media reports say. His now-defunct stories include fabricated interviews with a Guantanamo Bay prisoner, the 99-year-old anti-Nazi resistance fighter Traute Lafrenz, and a group of ‘Syrian orphans’.

‘CNN Journalist of the Year’ Fired for Faking News Stories

It's like you guys are allergic to facts or something. Very strange.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by crockett

draconian measures.



I'm pretty sure Russia and Assad has used draconian measures.. Doesn't get anymore draconian than dropping barrels full of TNT on civilians and hospitals..


The problem with that idea is not all people there are like that. There are lots of normal people there.. Its the extremist which are the problem..

It doesn't matter how draconian you get with that kind of person they will never stop. Try to go argue with some religious nutter and tell them there is no god..

Now put that same guy in a situation where he can oppress others with weapons.. The Christians would do the same things if they were in q country like Afghanistan when they were free to impose their will on others..

Look what the Jews do to the Palestinians and vice versa.. There is no holier than thou when it comes to religion.

It's all about keeping them controlled. If they are free to run amok they will always go to the extremes. The only thing that keeps them in line is rule of law..

The problem with the "moderate Muslims" is there are too few of them or they are far too quite and content to allow the extremists set the pace.

But you made an interesting statement.

It doesn't matter how draconian you get with that kind of person they will never stop. Try to go argue with some religious nutter and tell them there is no god..

Try being nice to the kind of person who believes god knows best, told to him via some religious quack. Assuming they will be nice if only you give them enough love hasn't worked so far. Draconian measures work best, a dead freedom fighter is no problem.