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Old 12-23-2018, 08:27 AM  
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham View Post
It's not an opinion, it's fact.

No one can win a war in Afghanistan.

For centuries they have fought each other and only united when someone tried to occupy the country be they helpful or oppressing. The British couldn't do it and later the Russians failed. So getting out is the only option and as it holds no real significance we lose little. Should they harbour groups like Al Qaeda then bomb the fuck out of them.

This is the same in the ME unless an occupying force is willing to use draconian measures to suppress all resistance. Present and past leaders have learned that lesson or have been over thrown in favour of leaders who will use draconian methods to suppress opposition.

However the ME is important to the West for oil.

So the only alternative is to befriend the Muslim leaders who are friendly to the West and allow them to use methods we despise. This is what we do in Saudi and a few other countries. Then should rebel groups threaten they are to be dealt with over whelming force, by local troops supported with Western technology.

The problem with this solution is the media and the liberals who peddle a myth that we can be nice and win. A policy doomed to fail.
draconian measures.



I'm pretty sure Russia and Assad has used draconian measures.. Doesn't get anymore draconian than dropping barrels full of TNT on civilians and hospitals..


The problem with that idea is not all people there are like that. There are lots of normal people there.. Its the extremist which are the problem..

It doesn't matter how draconian you get with that kind of person they will never stop. Try to go argue with some religious nutter and tell them there is no god..

Now put that same guy in a situation where he can oppress others with weapons.. The Christians would do the same things if they were in q country like Afghanistan when they were free to impose their will on others..

Look what the Jews do to the Palestinians and vice versa.. There is no holier than thou when it comes to religion.

It's all about keeping them controlled. If they are free to run amok they will always go to the extremes. The only thing that keeps them in line is rule of law..
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