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Old 03-29-2003, 05:53 PM   #101
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If you don't need to lose lots of weight you can actually get many of the benefits without cutting out the carbs.

A big reason people feel better on Atkins is because a diet high in protein keeps blood sugar stable. Its low glycemic index and it takes a long time to digest.

The mistake alot of people make is following the traditional "healthy" breakfast promoted by the food/cereal industry: coffee, a big glass of orange juice, and cereal. Basically 100% carbs. It will send your blood sugar into the stratosphere.. and then you'll come crashing down a few hours later.

You can solve that problem by introducing maybe 30-40% protein to your breakfasts. You can still have the cereal and juice, but cut down on the cereal and have a small omlette as well.

An interesting experiment is to buy one of those one touch blood sugar meters at the drugstore and see what you're doing to your sugar levels. I had almost a pint of OJ this morning, and my blood sugar went from 75mmgl/dl to 155mmgl/dl in about 10 minutes. weeee!

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Old 03-29-2003, 05:54 PM   #102
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True, that. I fill mine either with the Diet Rite or with water. I also like getting plain seltzer water or club soda and dropping a few drops of the Atkins syrups (strawberry rocks) in it and suddenly I have Atkins soda!
Tala, check out the DaVinci flavored syrups (sweetened with Splenda) ,they are even better than the Atkins syrups, and have a ton more flavors. I get them from Netrition.com. $7.95 for a 750 ml bottle.
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Old 03-29-2003, 06:11 PM   #103
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Centurion, you are doing great. Good luck in getting off your meds. You might also check out www.fitday.com, for tracking your daily food intake and carb/fat counts and ratios. www.atkinsfriends.com, as Tony404 suggested, has some good LC recipes.
Yeah..I've come up with several good ideas for eating.
And I have to second what you said about controlling glucose levels. My fasting levels are in the 80's..before, was around 140.
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Old 03-29-2003, 06:19 PM   #104
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Tala, check out the DaVinci flavored syrups (sweetened with Splenda) ,they are even better than the Atkins syrups, and have a ton more flavors. I get them from Netrition.com. $7.95 for a 750 ml bottle.
Cool! Thanks much, I'll have a peek!
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Old 03-30-2003, 04:05 PM   #105
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Hate to shoot down all you Atkins' believers and Zonies, but if these diets were *the answer* you would never find a new diet or a new diet book on the shelves.

Doctors don't know shit about HEALTH! How many of them get medical checkups? How many exercise? How many have been on diets and gained back every pound, plus more?

Look at Oprah. That woman has tried every diet known to man, and she ALWAYS gains back the weight. She has rotten genes. She is doomed to fight a weight problem until the day she dies. Oprah was on the protein fast in 1989. She lost lots of pounds. She ended up with this tiny little body from the waist down, and her head looked HUGE. She had droopy tits. She has hired physical trainers, chefs, run marathons, and she still gains back the weight.

GET OFF YOUR FAT BUTTS AND EXERCISE! Cut out the junk food and eat small meals with good stuff. If you become an exercising fool, you will be able to eat fruit, bread, pasta, and almost anything you want within reason.

DETERMINATION...

When you are over 40, don't expect the results you would get if you were in your 20's. SORRY PERSIAN KITTY! Only bored rich people use the Zone Diet.
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Old 03-31-2003, 03:44 AM   #106
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Okay. Sorry to bump this, but it seems like I'm soon going to go on this fucking atkins diet. I shouldn't have showed the websites etc to my GF.. that c*unt. Anyways.. my question:

You're supposed the count the carbs, nothing but the carbs?
http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/cgi-bin/nut_search.pl shows all the nutritional values, right?
Then I type in avocado.
...and choose avocado, raw, california.. and per 100grams.

I get:
Carbohydrate, by difference g 6.91
Fiber, total dietary g 4.9

So if I eat exactly 100grams of it, will the value I'm intrested in be..
6.91?
or 6.91-4.9 ~2?

So 6.9 or 2?

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Old 03-31-2003, 03:46 AM   #107
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GET OFF YOUR FAT BUTTS AND EXERCISE! Cut out the junk food and eat small meals with good stuff. If you become an exercising fool, you will be able to eat fruit, bread, pasta, and almost anything you want within reason.

DETERMINATION...
I don't have time. I don't lack determination, but if only there were more hours in a day.
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Old 03-31-2003, 04:58 AM   #108
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Old 03-31-2003, 07:29 AM   #109
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Okay. Sorry to bump this, but it seems like I'm soon going to go on this fucking atkins diet. I shouldn't have showed the websites etc to my GF.. that c*unt. Anyways.. my question:

You're supposed the count the carbs, nothing but the carbs?
http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/cgi-bin/nut_search.pl shows all the nutritional values, right?
Then I type in avocado.
...and choose avocado, raw, california.. and per 100grams.

I get:
Carbohydrate, by difference g 6.91
Fiber, total dietary g 4.9

So if I eat exactly 100grams of it, will the value I'm intrested in be..
6.91?
or 6.91-4.9 ~2?

So 6.9 or 2?

Thanks.
Yes, it would be 2 carbs.

And go buy the book

"Dr. Atkins' New Diet Revolution".

You'll get recipes, a carb counter, advice and all the basics.

It's only 5$. So get the book.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...books&n=507846
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Old 03-31-2003, 08:26 AM   #110
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Yes, it would be 2 carbs.

And go buy the book

"Dr. Atkins' New Diet Revolution".

You'll get recipes, a carb counter, advice and all the basics.

It's only 5$. So get the book.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...books&n=507846
Yeah, my GF bought it today. But I didn't wanna just search the answer from there. It's easier this way.
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Old 03-31-2003, 08:26 AM   #111
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Old 03-31-2003, 08:45 AM   #112
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You guys makes this all a lot more complicated than it needs to be. It's comes down to CALORIES. If you eat more calories than you take in you will gain weight. I don't care WHAT kind of calories they are. If you burn more calories than you take in you'll LOSE weight. Now you don't want to starve yourself, that will screw your metabolism up. The problem is people want everything NOW. They want to lose that 20 pounds NOW. It took YEARS to gain it, but god damn it, it has to come off NOW. everything in moderation.

All this talk about only 20 carbs a day is INSANE. ONE slice of bread has more than 20 carbs. Even if your carb intake was less than 10% of daily calories that still be 50 grams of carbs a day(based on 2000 calories a day). Then what's the other 90% made of? FAT? well not more than 30% should be that. So you're going to eat 70% PROTEIN? That's 350 grams of protien a day. Even body builders don't need that much protien.

3 pounds a week is a reasonable amount of weight to lose for a man unless you're morbidly obese, then you should be seeing a doctor or checking into a cemetary plot.

Also no matter which diet people sue the most successful dieters also were the one's that EXERCISED also. Also some weight lifting wouln't hurt since it's a known fact that for every 1 pound of muscle you put on your body you burn and extra 30 calories. Doesn't sound like much, but added up over time it is.
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All this talk about only 20 carbs a day is INSANE. ONE slice of bread has more than 20 carbs. Even if your carb intake was less than 10% of daily calories that still be 50 grams of carbs a day(based on 2000 calories a day). Then what's the other 90% made of? FAT? well not more than 30% should be that. So you're going to eat 70% PROTEIN? That's 350 grams of protien a day. Even body builders don't need that much protien.
Someone hasn't red the book, or articles.
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Old 03-31-2003, 09:34 AM   #114
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I've been on it for almost a year now and have lost 60 pounds. It is kind of easy after a while. Every now and then I blow it for some ice cream but usually I stay within 0 - 40 carbs a day which from what I have read is about average. Its definitely not for everybody!
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This won't be a lifestyle for me (probably), as I'll quit as soon as my GF's patience with this ends. lol. I can't buy anything with high-carbs to our fridge, so she says. So, I'm sorta forced to live off eggs and meat.
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Old 03-31-2003, 09:42 AM   #116
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You guys makes this all a lot more complicated than it needs to be. It's comes down to CALORIES. If you eat more calories than you take in you will gain weight. I don't care WHAT kind of calories they are. If you burn more calories than you take in you'll LOSE weight. Now you don't want to starve yourself, that will screw your metabolism up. The problem is people want everything NOW. They want to lose that 20 pounds NOW. It took YEARS to gain it, but god damn it, it has to come off NOW. everything in moderation.

All this talk about only 20 carbs a day is INSANE. ONE slice of bread has more than 20 carbs. Even if your carb intake was less than 10% of daily calories that still be 50 grams of carbs a day(based on 2000 calories a day). Then what's the other 90% made of? FAT? well not more than 30% should be that. So you're going to eat 70% PROTEIN? That's 350 grams of protien a day. Even body builders don't need that much protien.

3 pounds a week is a reasonable amount of weight to lose for a man unless you're morbidly obese, then you should be seeing a doctor or checking into a cemetary plot.

Also no matter which diet people sue the most successful dieters also were the one's that EXERCISED also. Also some weight lifting wouln't hurt since it's a known fact that for every 1 pound of muscle you put on your body you burn and extra 30 calories. Doesn't sound like much, but added up over time it is.
calories from protein don't store as fat. the important thing with protein is a steady stream of protein throughout the day. so your body doesn't use muscle for energy.
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