Arrested for obscenity! - GoFuckYourself.com

steffie · 03-27-2003, 06:58 PM

Ok, I personally don't care for those kind of videos, however!! arresting people because the US Postal Inspector has a problem with us adults receiving weird adult stuff in the mail is just plain not good.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/poopvid1.html

The Title 18 they are being charged with in short is

"Every obscene, lewd, lascivious, indecent, filthy or vile article, matter, thing, device, or substance; and -

Every article or thing designed, adapted, or intended for producing abortion, or for any indecent or immoral use; and "

Its a pretty large grey area, so befor you beat on me keep in mind that if you are into selling videos, cd's etc, thats something should really wake you up.

What exactly is considered obscene. If I sell a video of a model doing a bottle. Is that obscene? How about Anal? Blowjobs?

This is a big blow for us who do sell videos. Do I now have to look over my shoulder everytime I sell a video online and go to the postoffice?

I guess AEBN is going to get a lot more business with my videos after this.

urgh!!!!

Everybody is focusing on the war and silently the obcene police goes around.

yada yada yada

m0rph3us · 03-27-2003, 07:04 PM

isn't feces porn illegal in US though ?

tony286 · 03-27-2003, 07:04 PM

Two things shitting videos are gross and if never made again the world wouldnt be better or worse. Secondly you are doing that kind of money and dont consult with a lawyer .We are a small site and consulted with a lawyer on our site. One of the first things he said if you are going to sell videos use UPS and Fedex but people think this can never happen to me and everyone gets away with it. They are wrong people do get arrested .

CosmicKitten · 03-27-2003, 07:05 PM

Maybe they should have been more discreet with their homemade shit videos?

'The document notes the Corbetts's occasional use of a "bowl-cam" in some of their video productions.'

hahahahaha

Kimmykim · 03-27-2003, 07:09 PM

Obscenity is judged under the Miller test, which is community standards based. Therefore something that is not considered obscene in LA may be in Atlanta and so on.

Using the US postal service to send porn is just so risky.

Sly_RJ · 03-27-2003, 07:09 PM

Some niche videos you can't sell in some zip codes. For example, an anal video is illegal in some Florida areas. If you plan on distributing videos, you need to have your ass covered. Talk to a lawyer.

The larger distributing centers have lists of zip codes that can't receive certain videos. Talk to your lawyer about this.

It IS the distributors responsibility, not the consumer. Go figure.

tony286 · 03-27-2003, 07:13 PM

Thats why I am the softcore king lol We might make a bit less but no one is going to arrest people for making things on the level of cinamax lol

picindex · 03-27-2003, 07:14 PM

Just read through all 15 pages...

This was most interesting:

"Bank records from Dec 2002 to Feb 2003 show depostis into this joint account from all three sources of approx. $70,000 for this three (3) month period"

Now they where shitting money...

MrPopup · 03-27-2003, 07:15 PM

ignorance of the law is never an excuse for breaking it.

steffie · 03-27-2003, 07:16 PM

Us personally don't have "poop" lol,, videos, I do have a list where not to send my videos too and most of them I do send with ups.

Just reading about this made me crinch, W. Virginia does NOT have an obscenity law. So I was really surprised when I read that

urgh...

I just don't get that you cannot send adult videos to certain states or even certain counties or zipcodes.. As an adult if I want to watch Porn on TV I can, but I cannot get it in the mail when ordering a video?

I bet netflix sends those horror and gore movies with dead people and horrific images to those zipcodes, but god behold if I should send a video with a girl getting it up the butt.

Thats just wrong

tony286 · 03-27-2003, 07:21 PM

Watching a guy and girl fucking is one thing thats porn .Watching someone shit is just fucking gross, it just over the edge shit(no pun intended) to make a buck who can push it futher.

picindex · 03-27-2003, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tony404
Watching a guy and girl fucking is one thing thats porn .Watching someone shit is just fucking gross, it just over the edge shit(no pun intended) to make a buck who can push it futher.

Yup

421Fill · 03-27-2003, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tony404
Watching a guy and girl fucking is one thing thats porn .Watching someone shit is just fucking gross, it just over the edge shit(no pun intended) to make a buck who can push it futher.

The same could be said for many niches... Granted, I don't like scat at all either, but if you start siding with the other team, then the 'community standards' issue is easier to 'pass'. "Even Tony, the porn site operator thinks it's obscene..."

KRL · 03-27-2003, 07:33 PM

I don't know about the decision to prosecute this case. Somehow I picture the jury laughing their asses off listening to a US Attorney talk about closeup shots of anuses, poop excretion, etc. With all the terrorist stuff going on I think the jury might resent being made to deal with such a shitty case.

BRISK · 03-27-2003, 07:36 PM

They live in the wrong town, they should move to www.shitcity.com

Sly_RJ · 03-27-2003, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tony404
Watching a guy and girl fucking is one thing thats porn .Watching someone shit is just fucking gross, it just over the edge shit(no pun intended) to make a buck who can push it futher.

I agree. But some people say the same stuff about standard porn. Even your softcore stuff.

eroswebmaster · 03-27-2003, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by steffie

I bet netflix sends those horror and gore movies with dead people and horrific images to those zipcodes, but god behold if I should send a video with a girl getting it up the butt.

Thats just wrong

A girl getting it up the butt and shitting it out of her butt is 2 different things.

I'm all for freedom of speech, but if you're going to push the extreme boundaries of our industry you better be prepared to defend it.

eroswebmaster · 03-27-2003, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

I agree. But some people say the same stuff about standard porn. Even your softcore stuff.

Yes, but your chances of defending a consenting couple having straight sex is going to be a lot easier than defending a chick taking a dump on someone.

eroswebmaster · 03-27-2003, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by turbo

The same could be said for many niches...

Yes but it doesn't make it true.

tony286 · 03-27-2003, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Somehow I picture the jury laughing their asses off

No I think they will be looking with disgust, someone might throw up and you all forget it will give the right another reason to say you see we have to get rid of all pornography. Look at the filth they are producing.

eroswebmaster · 03-27-2003, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tony404

No I think they will be looking with disgust, someone might throw up and you all forget it will give the right another reason to say you see we have to get rid of all pornography. Look at the filth they are producing.

Yep, it's not like a jury of their peers will actually be made up of their peers..you know people who are adult webmasters and post on gfy and have seen the gaping asshole pic at least once a day.

GotGauge · 03-27-2003, 08:31 PM

Dont use the POST OFFICE...

Gemini · 03-27-2003, 08:39 PM

One of the Federal Districts set precedence on obscenity before. I can't remember which it was nor could I find it when I looked awhile back. But scat, beastie, fisting, odd insertions, rape-faux rape, violen/t/ce and a couple of others were listed.

I don't think it went past that ruling but it gives them a leg to stand on. It will be interesting to see if that is brought in to this trial. It could be the beginning of how they deal with adult in general. Sooner or later the adult online business will be governed by laws one way or another.

Disclaimer for all the whiners and non-believers... Boo! It will happen. They never believed that cigarettes would have an age limit put on them either. Oops!

LiveDose · 03-27-2003, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GotGauge
Dont use the POST OFFICE...

Yup, if you're shipping porn, UPS or FEDEX is the way to go. Don't ever ever use the Post Office...

steffie · 03-27-2003, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tony404

No I think they will be looking with disgust, someone might throw up and you all forget it will give the right another reason to say you see we have to get rid of all pornography. Look at the filth they are producing.

I went to BondCon in NYC over the weekend and saw a lot of stuff what made me feel queezy.. HOWEVER

If there is an adult who wants to participate and/or buy videos of this nature I believe he should.

Agreed, personally I think poop videos are sick, again, don't buy it, don't look at it.

I watched over the weekend

People being fisted
having pins inserted in their groin
being tied up and gagged
being handcuffed
and at the convention they sold tons and tons and tons of videos like that.

I didn't buy any, I don't care for it. I went because I never seen something like that in real and have a friend in the lifestyle.

These are adults doing stuff adults like to do.

There is lots of stuff in the Adult Industry I don't agree and care for

Degrading women for one - Fish-hook etc (sorry dugmour lol)

but still, if youre an adult, and you do it, I should have the right to buy it. If I am in WV or FL

Ok, forget it, its not going anywhere until you get handcuffed and hauled into jail because you sold a video of a girl taking on a bowling pin.

I guess I am just nervous about all those new ammendments including the one voted on today.

xoxoxo

03-27-2003, 06:58 PM	#1
steffie Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Somewhere in the Mountains, far far away Posts: 2,422	Arrested for obscenity! Ok, I personally don't care for those kind of videos, however!! arresting people because the US Postal Inspector has a problem with us adults receiving weird adult stuff in the mail is just plain not good. http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/poopvid1.html The Title 18 they are being charged with in short is "Every obscene, lewd, lascivious, indecent, filthy or vile article, matter, thing, device, or substance; and - Every article or thing designed, adapted, or intended for producing abortion, or for any indecent or immoral use; and " Its a pretty large grey area, so befor you beat on me keep in mind that if you are into selling videos, cd's etc, thats something should really wake you up. What exactly is considered obscene. If I sell a video of a model doing a bottle. Is that obscene? How about Anal? Blowjobs? This is a big blow for us who do sell videos. Do I now have to look over my shoulder everytime I sell a video online and go to the postoffice? I guess AEBN is going to get a lot more business with my videos after this. urgh!!!! Everybody is focusing on the war and silently the obcene police goes around. yada yada yada __________________ Partying since '96 and not going anywhere Anna's Dorm

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tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	Two things shitting videos are gross and if never made again the world wouldnt be better or worse. Secondly you are doing that kind of money and dont consult with a lawyer .We are a small site and consulted with a lawyer on our site. One of the first things he said if you are going to sell videos use UPS and Fedex but people think this can never happen to me and everyone gets away with it. They are wrong people do get arrested . Last edited by tony299; 03-27-2003 at 07:07 PM..

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picindex Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,038	Just read through all 15 pages... This was most interesting: "Bank records from Dec 2002 to Feb 2003 show depostis into this joint account from all three sources of approx. $70,000 for this three (3) month period" Now they where shitting money... __________________ Good Content:

03-27-2003, 07:05 PM	#4
CosmicKitten Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 225	Maybe they should have been more discreet with their homemade shit videos? 'The document notes the Corbetts's occasional use of a "bowl-cam" in some of their video productions.' hahahahaha

03-27-2003, 07:09 PM	#5
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Obscenity is judged under the Miller test, which is community standards based. Therefore something that is not considered obscene in LA may be in Atlanta and so on. Using the US postal service to send porn is just so risky.

03-27-2003, 07:13 PM	#7
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	Thats why I am the softcore king lol We might make a bit less but no one is going to arrest people for making things on the level of cinamax lol

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steffie Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Somewhere in the Mountains, far far away Posts: 2,422	Us personally don't have "poop" lol,, videos, I do have a list where not to send my videos too and most of them I do send with ups. Just reading about this made me crinch, W. Virginia does NOT have an obscenity law. So I was really surprised when I read that urgh... I just don't get that you cannot send adult videos to certain states or even certain counties or zipcodes.. As an adult if I want to watch Porn on TV I can, but I cannot get it in the mail when ordering a video? I bet netflix sends those horror and gore movies with dead people and horrific images to those zipcodes, but god behold if I should send a video with a girl getting it up the butt. Thats just wrong __________________ Partying since '96 and not going anywhere Anna's Dorm

03-27-2003, 07:21 PM	#11
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	Watching a guy and girl fucking is one thing thats porn .Watching someone shit is just fucking gross, it just over the edge shit(no pun intended) to make a buck who can push it futher.

03-27-2003, 07:33 PM	#14
KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	I don't know about the decision to prosecute this case. Somehow I picture the jury laughing their asses off listening to a US Attorney talk about closeup shots of anuses, poop excretion, etc. With all the terrorist stuff going on I think the jury might resent being made to deal with such a shitty case.

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