crockett

Yep Mexico is gonna pay for it...



Of and the best part is it will cost the entire construction price in maintenance with in 7 years.


Donald Dumps making MEREICA Trailer parks great again..

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crockett

See we don't even need a wall to keep you out..

plaster

I've watched his debates and he has repeatedly said 10 billion or so. 200 billion if done by cruz or another politician.

Paul&John

Just build it with illegal aliens and it will cost the fraction of it.

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crockett

The video doesn't lie.. He started out claiming 4 billion. When others said it would be at least 10 bil, he claimed they didn't know how to do it right. He then kept increasing his estimate until it's at the point today where he claims 12 billion.

It's all right there in the vids his own words.. However this doesn't include making roads to all these far off locations, the legal costs of stealing the required land from American citizens to build it on.. ect ect which is why the real world estimate is closer to 25 billion.

Vendzilla

SO just pile up the illegal aliens till they form a wall?

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crockett

Sure thing Hitler Jr. should we make the concrete out of the ashes from the ovens??

L-Pink

Don't get near the border much do you?

crockett

You didn't watch much of the video did you?

clickity click

So he has only increased the estimate by $2Billion? So about 4.8 Billion dollars if he does the negotiating.

Doesn't sound too bad.

crockett

What world does 4 grow to 12 and only = 2 more? What kinda crack rocks are you smoking? We aren't talking Reagan economics here, no fuzzy math please..

clickity click

Are you an idiot?

He said that the wall would cost 10 billion but could be done for 4 if it was done by the right people.
The cost has now increased to 12 billion which is an 800,000 increase on his previous forcast.

TrafficTitan

Even if it is 25 billion we'd still save money not paying for welfare and jail space for illegal aliens.

TrafficTitan

Illegal immigrants cost us 100 billion a year. So we'd save money.

The Fiscal Burden of Illegal Immigration on United States Taxpayers (2013)

crockett

You clearly did not listen to what he said..

crockett

You are assuming it will stop them.. which is wrong, as 50% of them come here legally and over stay..

So right off the bat your 100 billion just got cut in half.. Now how about those ladders, tunnels and ropes...

Then add in the extra 25 bil every 7 years to upkeep the wall, roads ect.. That's another 4 bil down the drain each year and it will grow more as time goes on and more repairs are needed.

ITraffic

cut off the demand. no need for a wall.

420

right people = migrant workers? They could dig a moat (by hand) and fill it with crocodiles for less than 4 billion.

clickity click

That's the problem with you Americans. Afraid of a bit of hard work and getting you hands dirty..

plaster

Not sure why it would have to be precast panels. Form it up and pour it, pretty simple stuff. If 1000 miles at 12 billion... that's 12 million a mile, or $2,272 a foot. A nine foot wall is estimated at around $80 per foot... what makes you think a 35 foot wall would cost $4,000 per foot? Because someone said so? 3 foot base tapered to 1 foot at the top. Nobody is cutting 3 foot solid concrete.

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For sake of argument... the wall would need to have some type of sensor for when they try to scale it. That would certainly cost money. And surveyors and engineering costs money. But I just can't see how it would end up anywhere close to $4,000 per linear foot (close to 25 billion dollar mark) for everything including dirt roads being created.

crockett

So you think his slogan should be "Make MERICA Shit Again" so they don't wanna come here..

crockett

First off your whole C&P of Trump math forgets that all that demand on materials would cause the cost to sky rocket. Just like when China was in it's boom the cost of steel went through the roof.

Next you don't mention anything of roads, getting the materials there ect.ect.. all this "forgotten" stuff balloons the costs dramatically..

420

We don't work for less than $15 an hour. Bring in the wall building machines.

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plaster

Yes I did mention it. Demands on material?? Concrete is water, aggregate, and cement. Rebar is steel. There is more then enough of it around. It would not balloon anything cost wise. Everyone within 500 miles will be bidding for a section of the wall.

What does anyone in the media know about construction of a 35 foot wall? The answer is nothing, and it's not a complicated project. It just is long which many people simply can't grasp.

420

How much does a 35 foot ladder cost?

Sly

$50B year saved X 10 years = $500B

Initial cost and repairs $25B + $25B * (10 / 7) = $60.7B

Difference: +$439.3B

If you are going to entertain the math argument, at least TRY to make sense.

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No, I don't want to watch a 20 minute video from a comedian I don't think is funny.

My comment was about border property and the owners welcoming a wall/security, which they will.

plaster

Don't know, but the people crossing usually don't even have a shirt on their back so doubt they have 50 foot ladders, just a guess though.

I would think some type of sensor system would have to be included though. Shit, just throw some barb wire at the top, certainly would be a deterrent. I'm sure that extra $3/foot won't kill the budget.

L-Pink

Current fence in El Paso, that's Mexico on the other side. The mighty Rio Grande River and one of the many Border Patrol trucks you see here everyday.









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woj

one critical detail is that the wall only makes it harder for NEW Mexican immigrants to reach the US... it does nothing at all to existing immigrants, so cost before and after will be about the same...

another critical detail is that the $100B someone posted earlier is for ALL immigrants, Mexico accounts for perhaps 25% of immigration to the US...

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Robbie

This has nothing to do with "immigration". The issue is ILLEGAL immigration. Duh.

Anyway, I totally disagree with building a wall. In my opinion it's un-American.

When I was in school we were taught that the Berlin Wall represented everything evil in this world. And for the last few years our govt. has been talking about building one.

Now we have Trump wanting to build one (and I believe so do the rest of the Republican candidates?).

Mexico was an open border since there was a border.

The ONLY problem we have with that border is the United States' insistence on an international "War On Drugs".

Our Federal Govt. sent the DEA and military down into Columbia and disrupted and destroyed the Columbian Cocaine Cartels.

The result? Mexican drug lords filled that vacuum and violence erupted on our borders.

All of the violence and crime is being caused by the War On Drugs. The results of Drug Prohibition are the same as the ones that happened in Alcohol Prohibition of the 1920's.
Crime, violence, and criminal organizations becoming insanely wealthy.

That's what happens when the govt. decides IT has the power to make choices for people.
It didn't work with alcohol.
It hasn't worked with drugs.

Stop the stupid drug laws and get the govt. out of our lives. There won't be any "problems" at the border after that.

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woj

Imagine that Mexicans became better at gaming the system, and worked out how to come here "legally", would that make it any better? what would really change? Nothing at all would change, except these "legal" immigrants would now have more options when it comes to sucking on government teat, so the US would actually be worse off...

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bronco67

It's a solution for a problem that doesn't exist. Trump has figured something out...make waterhead mouthbreathers feel secure, and then you will secure their vote.

But here is where his strategy is grossly misdirected:

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bronco67

No one is impressed that you know about building materials. It's moronic to think that this is some simple endeavor that should cost what YOU think it will cost because you have some snazzy construction experience -- or maybe you go to Home Depot every week. For one thing, remember that this would be a government project.

You know what? It's even ridiculous to entertain the brain farts of Donald Trump with any kind of debate or reasoning. His face should just be laughed at whenever he brings up this idiotic, wasteful idea which like his presidency --- will NEVER FUCKING HAPPEN. And all you suckers who want to have his baby are really pathetic. I could almost feel sorry for you, but you don't deserve sympathy for making such a dumb choice.

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Robbie

The argument is that as a nation we need to know who is and who isn't in our country. Of course "we" is the Federal Govt. not the real WE the people.

The other argument is that our immigration system can weed out any convicted criminals coming in.

And I will say this much...I know a lot of Mexicans. And yeah, I know that there are a percentage of lazy fucks in all communities... But the Mexican people are some of the hardest working people you will ever find.

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Vendzilla

Just heard on the news today that the border patrol when they catch someone crossing the border, they just release them, please tell me where this is not a problem

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think about that

plaster

Slow down cowboy. Yes, I know infinitely more then you about construction and my lord, it's a fucking wall. They are not shooting someone to the sun.

I didn't say if I liked the wall idea or not, but the rhetoric surrounding the inflated cost of wall is ludicrous.

4k+/ft for a 35 foot wall, lol

Inflating the cost of both steel and concrete because of it... for the entire nation... lolol

2MuchMark

For those of you still loving the idea of a wall yet not watching the video, here's a quick recap.

Trump has seriously under-estimated the cost of building the wall, and over-played its value. Besides materials, roads have to be built to transport them. Besides the initial cost of the Wall which by some estimates is 12 to 15 billion, there are huge ("Yuuugee"?) costs to maintain the wall later. 50% of all illegal immigrants arrive in the US by plane, not by sneaking across the border. No, Mexico will not pay for the wall. The trade deficit is not with the government of Mexico, it's with private businesses (Sheese!). The money to build the great Wall O'Trump will come out of tax payer pockets.

The only thing the wall will do in the end is create a market for ladders.

Even if you don't like Comedian John Oliver, you should still watch the video as I'm sure I've left lots of things out.

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arock10

I still think a wall made out of trump condos is the best idea

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a wall is truly the ultimate solution...shit I hope he builds it

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crockett

You mean the owners who have half their property taken by govt? It's already happened in Texas..

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?A nation that cannot control its borders is not a nation.? - Ronald Reagan

He was 100% correct.

Wall or no wall.



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Rochard

Truth be told I am all for building a wall. This is basic common sense - We have a problem with people crossing our border, and the most logical thing to do is build a wall. However, in order for it to be remotely effective - if effective at all - it would have to be a cross between the Great Wall Of China and the Berlin Wall. The cost involved would be astronomical; Building it is one thing but it would also have to be maintained and then fully staffed twenty-four hours a day.

And it would still be completely ineffective. They will go over it, they will go under it, they will go through it, they will go around it.

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Atticus

So you're all for building a wall, but also know that said wall would be completely ineffective. You really should go into politics. You'd fit right in.

Atticus

The solution that nobody (especially the Republicans) will talk about is simple. Mandatory prison sentences for owners and managers that knowingly hire undocumented workers.

Illegal immigrants come to the US for work and to provide a better life for their family. If the work was unavailable they would no longer come. And the immigrants here illegally would not stay.

However, to make sure the work that needs to be done continues to be done we would also need to start issuing more Visas and make legal immigration an easier process.

crockett

Yeah, I've said this every election cycle for the last 20 years.. (yes because like clock work every election year Republicans start whining about illegals then forget about them unless it's a democrat in office) When Clinton was in office illegals were big deal, Bush was elected suddenly no whining about illegals. Obama gets elected then suddenly wee need a wall and illegals are problems again..

If you start dishing out $5k fines for ever illegal to the companies who habitually hire them, then suddenly it would be a non issue.. Of course they don't wanna talk about that!!

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$35,200,000,000.00

30 ft tall 19 wide at the base 7 feet wide at the top, reinforced concrete on a 10 foot packed gravel footing.

Obviously no one here knows jack shit about poured in place concrete wall construction -- this is a 300+ year wall

A cheap reinforced concrete tilt up wall 30 ft tall with pile drivings and buttresses
$3,168,000,000 - $5 billion depending on the support.

I am assuming Davis–Bacon Act local prevailing wages.

Machine gun towers not included

Any earthquake repairs might get expensive.