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dyna mo · 04-26-2015, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett

They might have schedules for bigger & or important bills but it's impossible to schedule each bill that is voted on. It's not how the system works..

i'll stand corrected if you can show me the rule on it. otherwise, i'll go with my understanding, that the process is scheduled and the polar opposite of random. you seem to think there's someone who decides which bills are important enough to warrant actually scheduling our law makers around, you know, making laws. for example, you stated this guy blocked the bill for sending arms to ukraine, but then you claim something like this is neither a big nor important bill.

that' just not at all how the process flows. it doesn't matter how many meetings a congressman has during the day or wtfever, their PRIMARY job is to introduce and pass legislation and by all accounts, 90% of them participate in that.

this guy is a clown trying to toot his own horn.

Robbie · 04-26-2015, 10:58 AM

IF Congress can try to sneak in bills to keep most Congressmen from voting for them...then WHY didn't the Democrats CHANGE that rule when they had the House?
Saint Nancy Pelosi had a majority and could have "fixed" this problem right? Or any of the other Democrat House leaders (since they historically have held the majority in Congress over the last hundred plus years)

Answer: They don't WANT to change it. They like being able to pull shit on both sides.

2MuchMark · 04-26-2015, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

here's a quick lesson for you, blah blah blah, blah blah blah,blah blah blah,

Whatever you say, skippy.

dyna mo · 04-26-2015, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by **********

Whatever you say, skippy.

nice to see you are finally starting to embrace reality.

although i did get a chuckle from your including a graphic on our Congress's lack of passing legislation in a thread about it being OK to block legislation from passing.

Robbie · 04-26-2015, 11:31 AM

The problem isn't Congress passing legislation..."passing legislation" = creating NEW laws.

How many goddamned laws do we fucking need? Apparently an INFINITE number. And if Congress doesn't pass as many NEW laws as the last Congress did...then they are not "doing their jobs".

I could have sworn that being in Congress was never supposed to have been their "job" They are supposed to Serve The People
AND the DUTIES of SERVING the people should be to...Serve the people.

Are new laws needed as times change (new technology, etc.). Yes, of course.
Does Congress need to be in session passing new laws every damn day? Hell no. Common sense SHOULD tell people that.

Congress's time should mostly be spent passing a budget (which the Dem Senate of Harry Reid never did) and attending to other legislative duties.
You know, shit that most of us could get done in a couple of months of hard work.

But all of this passing new laws constantly...when does it end? How much shit do everyday American people have to be told how, why, and when to do by passing new laws?

dyna mo · 04-26-2015, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

The problem isn't Congress passing legislation..."passing legislation" = creating NEW laws.

How many goddamned laws do we fucking need? Apparently an INFINITE number. And if Congress doesn't pass as many NEW laws as the last Congress did...then they are not "doing their jobs".

I could have sworn that being in Congress was never supposed to have been their "job" AND the DUTIES of SERVING the people should be to...Serve the people.

Are new laws needed as times change (new technology, etc.). Yes, of course.
Does Congress need to be in session passing new laws every damn day? Hell no. Common sense SHOULD tell people that.

Congress's time should mostly be spent passing a budget (which the Dem Senate of Harry Reid never did) and attending to other legislative duties.
You know, shit that most of us could get done in a couple of months of hard work.

But all of this passing new laws constantly...when does it end? How much shit do everyday American people have to be told how, why, and when to do by passing new laws?

i don't disagree that there are a fuckload of laws, but that doesn't negate that congress's primary responsibility is to create and pass legislation.

seriously- maybe we should change the job responsibilities along with enacting term limits, removing big money from campaigning, and allowing for more than 2 parties. i'm not kidding.

Sly · 04-26-2015, 11:42 AM

Here is a summary of the process: Procedures of the United States House of Representatives - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I don't see anything about the voting process though.

Robbie · 04-26-2015, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

i don't disagree that there are a fuckload of laws, but that doesn't negate that congress's primary responsibility is to create and pass legislation.

Agreed, but not when you don't NEED a new law.

A painter has to know when to STOP painting on a picture.
A musician has to realize when NOT to play in a song.

You know what I'm saying. There is no wisdom in continuously passing legislation just to be able to say: "Hey look! We passed new laws! We're important!"

baddog · 04-26-2015, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

yeah, i'm not buying it. that article is bullshit. voice voting is as old as the Constitution and if that article writer wants to be taken seriously, he'd cite examples of where this guy interferred and for what reason he thinks it's OK to block the legislative process simply because the author makes shit up like boehner skwints his eyes to see a quorum. i'm also not buying that most bills are passed in an empty chamber.

I admire your persistence, have you been practicing debating with a brick wall?

dyna mo · 04-26-2015, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Agreed, but not when you don't NEED a new law.

A painter has to know when to STOP painting on a picture.
A musician has to realize when NOT to play in a song.

You know what I'm saying. There is no wisdom in continuously passing legislation just to be able to say: "Hey look! We passed new laws! We're important!"

well, let's wait for the bills to pass to see what's in them.

the sticky wicket is the this guy is a representative, not a senator. the house of representatives is the part the is actually the most responsible for introducing new legislation, the idea being they are the closest to the people and would therefore introduce bills that are more on behalf of us folks.

which makes what this guy is claiming even more ludicrous. I get that our government is dysfunctional, but a representative claiming that most of the house never ever votes on bills and the speaker of the fucking house is gaming the system by sneaking votes through by nefariously calling voice votes out of the blue that this representative makes a superman-like mad dash to go block bills he can't even cite examples of.

come on now.

dyna mo · 04-26-2015, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

I admire your persistence, have you been practicing debating with a brick wall?

yeah, I've been zinging the crap out of **********.

JJ Gold · 04-26-2015, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by **********

Whatever you say, skippy.

Get back to where you are supposed to be...standing next to salt.

dyna mo · 04-26-2015, 12:28 PM

how does this guy even know what's in the bills?

Robbie · 04-26-2015, 12:33 PM

McConell, Pelosi, Reid, and Boehner should all be long gone from Washington D.C.
They have all been total embarrassments

04-26-2015, 10:58 AM	#52
Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,959	IF Congress can try to sneak in bills to keep most Congressmen from voting for them...then WHY didn't the Democrats CHANGE that rule when they had the House? Saint Nancy Pelosi had a majority and could have "fixed" this problem right? Or any of the other Democrat House leaders (since they historically have held the majority in Congress over the last hundred plus years) Answer: They don't WANT to change it. They like being able to pull shit on both sides. __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com

04-26-2015, 11:31 AM	#55
Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,959	The problem isn't Congress passing legislation..."passing legislation" = creating NEW laws. How many goddamned laws do we fucking need? Apparently an INFINITE number. And if Congress doesn't pass as many NEW laws as the last Congress did...then they are not "doing their jobs". I could have sworn that being in Congress was never supposed to have been their "job" They are supposed to Serve The People AND the DUTIES of SERVING the people should be to...Serve the people. Are new laws needed as times change (new technology, etc.). Yes, of course. Does Congress need to be in session passing new laws every damn day? Hell no. Common sense SHOULD tell people that. Congress's time should mostly be spent passing a budget (which the Dem Senate of Harry Reid never did) and attending to other legislative duties. You know, shit that most of us could get done in a couple of months of hard work. But all of this passing new laws constantly...when does it end? How much shit do everyday American people have to be told how, why, and when to do by passing new laws? __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com

04-26-2015, 11:42 AM	#57
Sly Let's do some business! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 31,326	Here is a summary of the process: Procedures of the United States House of Representatives - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia I don't see anything about the voting process though. __________________ Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted Windows VPS now available Great for TSS, Nifty Stats, remote work, virtual assistants, etc. Click here for more details.

04-26-2015, 12:33 PM	#64
Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,959	McConell, Pelosi, Reid, and Boehner should all be long gone from Washington D.C. They have all been total embarrassments __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com

04-26-2015, 12:28 PM	#63
dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 65,232	how does this guy even know what's in the bills?