NewOldPlayer

China has all the slave labor. America was built on slaves, and now China has the goods.

It doesn't matter what China is making, all US manufacturing companies are land rushing China because that is where the cheap labor is, no pollution laws and financial tax incentives to set up shop. Just like when the 13 colonies where set up here in the US and all of Europe raced over here to set up shop using slaves to build their manufacturing businesses, now, we are all moving to China, because that is where the new generation of slaves are.

People in Chinese factories work 6 to 7 days a week, 12 to 15 hours a day, for about $40 USD a month. That is the legal definition of true modern slavery.

China is absorbing our manufacturing businesses. They build everything much cheaper and more efficient that any nation on the planet.

Remember when a toy or a stereo was "made in Japan" ?? LOL EVERYTHING now reads "made in China" 97% of everything at Walmart is from China.

We are so dependent on China the average person has no idea. Not to mention all the billions they lend us every year so we can pay our social security. Why do you think our country can still function while the debt continues to climb at an outrageous pace? Without loans from China, our government would collapse. China is only lending us money to keep it's 'best' customer afloat, while we move all our manufacturing businesses over to the new mother land.

When we can no longer pay our bills and China refuses to lend us more money, our system will collapse. We need China. China owns us. China doesn't have to go to war with us and "cut us off" ...we are China's best customer. We are the heroine addicts and China is the drug dealer. You don't cut off your best buyer, until the junky can no longer pay for the goods, then, you put him to work for you.

China has nothing to worry about when we collapse, they have the rest of the world to continue selling products to and all the great US manufacturing factories will already be in China.

We are in alliance with a communist nation. People seem to forget that because the labor is so cheap, nobody gives a fuck. They don't play by the same rules we do. When we collapse, China can simply close the borders and absorb all the US factories that are on Chinese soil, and we'll be left holding our dicks saying, "I thought it was ok to do business with a communist nation?"

Watch a couple episodes of Shark Tank. When it comes to making new products, you always hear the sharks or the inventor say, "Yes, I'll get my cost down by setting up manufacturing in China." And that's just a TV show. It's the norm now in real life for all businesses. Why? Cheaper to have slaves build your products than American's that charge $ 12 an hour.

China is the oldest and most adaptive race of people on the planet. It is their destiny to be the most dominant nation in the world. Once China begins making it's new military using American owned businesses right there in China, there will be no stopping China's passive conquering of the planet after the fall of the over extended and financially ruined Empire of the United States.

dyna mo

wake up and do what? realize USA is like ancient rome in a bad way?

your view of china is lop-sided. here's why- which is more important, the manufacturing country or the actual consumer? I can assure you demand usurps supply, i.e., china needs the USA more than we need China. That widget will get made somewhere else if china doesn't make it.

You're also negating current and future tech- fracking and 3d printing will restore our economy. in the meantime, china has to manipulate currencies and markets on a worldwode level to prop up its' economic numbers and hides the bad.

if china wants to continue to have the USA be it's #2 consumer, then China needs to keep their own shit together, not *absorb* one of its best customers.

dyna mo

it won't be long till china takes over at this rate:

https://www.google.com/search?q=what...sm=93&ie=UTF-8

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L-Pink

Yea, it's a fucking worthless dump over here.

Rochard

This isn't true at all. The US doesn't rush to China to have their products made. Our precious iPhones aren't made in China, they are made in South Korea. The other day I ordered some products and they were made in Vietnam.

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Pig fucking shit.

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main reason of roman empire's fall was because of lack of war conflicts, for 200 years roman didn't conduct any war, they just live peacefully - roman empire was build on slaves arms - no wars, means no more slaves i would not compare it to US, also soldiers who didn't attend in any conflicts becomes softer and untrained then comes barbarians.

US always have some war somewhere, that is helping industry to run, war always speeds up technological progress and tech progress is most important in our civilization right now. US won't fall imo.

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klinton

and ? :-)

what is your point exactly ?

just a punk

Ok, here is that Russian tax inspection says on its official site: http://www.nalog.ru/rn77/taxation/taxes/nds/

True enough now?

Yes we definitely have a consumer-based taxes (note the link above), but at least I know the exact price of the product when I buy it. You have suggested me to travel a bit. Ok, I've been to many countries and have to say that the USA is the only country where I had to pay the taxes in addition to prices written on the products.

No offense but you really have nothing that could be interesting for such a big and resource-reach country like Russia. Most of our territory is just unpopulated. So, perhaps China will be interested in picking up your lands soon

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just a punk

My point? Hmm... You have asked about VAT in Russia and I just gave you the info (use Google translate to read it). This is how it works for me (so-called "simplified system"): https://translate.google.com/transla...le5&edit-text=

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klinton

so like I said - it is higher than in US, and because of that - goods are more expensive

klinton

oh really ? for 40 $ ?

it is rather 400 USD, you forgot one Zero........

klinton

nobody wants to live in freezing, like in Canada

just a punk

In the USA it is 3%..15%. In Russia it is 0%...18% depends on a product type:

1) 18% for general products.
2) 10% for food, medicals, products for kids etc.
3) 0% for products made for export.

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NewOldPlayer

Did you really write that? Or are you stoned?

Future tech, Fracking and 3d printing will RESTORE our economy?

Seriously? Future tech? LOL made in America? Fracking? 3d printing?

Ok, you win. I can't come back from that.

I have to go to work now and 3D print up some drill bits before I go fracking. I'm part of the solution now.

just a punk

You give too much credit to 3d printing "technology". First of all, it's not even 3d (you can't print en element of construction in a chosen location of air). These devices just simple crawl back and forth and squeeze sausage of frosting material. There is nothing new or high-tech in it. Even a usual color printer is a much more technological device, which allows you to mix colors and print any picture which looks like a good photography. The 3d printers do not allow you to print anything really useful (you can't print headphones, a new mobile, a wheel for your car of even a fryer). You can't mix the materials. You can't use steel, glass, wood etc. You can't use mix colors to "print" a detail. Try to print a simple ping-pong ball and you will see how useless this technology is.

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dyna mo

Says the guy who can't even get history right in an rant about how the USA doesn't have a future because it's too much like a successful empire.

You also might want to Google the fact the USA is the largest oil producer on the planet now and will continue to be due to fracking.

It would also behoove you to learn up a little on 3d printing prior to blowing it off because you don't know that our understand . Google 3d printing USA economy

dyna mo

You too should also Google 3d printing prior to writing an entirely wrong description

NewOldPlayer

Try using what's left of your mind. You refer to Google as if it's some sort of deity or all mighty being that holds all the answers.

But I guess Google allows even the slowest of people to appear knowledgeable online.

Let's go fracking! LOL A great way to make money while protecting the environment. Genius.

just a punk

So did you print the ping-pong ball already?

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dyna mo

feel free to prove me and google wrong, which you've yet to even try to do, you've simply name-called, which is fine and dandy, but let's not go trying to bullshit people like me into thinking that makes you right- about anything.

and again, you're lack of understanding re: fracking proves yet again you speak to things which you have no idea about.

dyna mo

naw, was busy 3d printing some human stem cells., not that they aren't as important as ping pong balls.

http://venturebeat.com/2013/02/06/fi...an-stem-cells/

This new process essentially bio-fabricates usable conglomerations of human stem cells by printing bio-ink, made up of a number of organic components including HEK293 (human embryonic kidney) via a valve-based printer with very fine nanoliter capacity (an ounce of liquid contains 29,573,529 nanoliters). The nozzle of the valve-based printer that they used is only .002 inches wide.

dyna mo

it's not a ping pong ball but almost as important!

3D Printed Robotic Arm
The person behind this invention is self taught 17 year old, Easton LaChappelle. Whilst your average teen might be playing with robots in a video game, Easton was actually out there making them for the benefit of other people. Upon meeting a young girl with a prosthetic limb that cost a phenomenal $80,000, he set out to change the future of prosthetics by putting together a robotic arm using wireless sensors for a mere $500. This shows how designers and engineers are working to bridge the gap between low cost 3D printing and traditionally expensive prosthetics.

dyna mo

Scientists Use 3D Printing to Create A Patch of Beating Heart Cells

http://3dprint.com/1676/3d-printing-...g-heart-cells/

dyna mo

ok, had a brief minute to goof off, here's that 3d printed ping pong ball you were asking about

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it's even better than a ping pong ball, it's squeezable and won't dent.

http://gizmodo.com/a-3d-printed-sque...ent-1589219822

dyna mo

The drilling procedure called fracking didn?t cause much-publicized cases of tainted groundwater in areas of Pennsylvania and Texas, a new study finds. Instead, it blames the contamination on problems in pipes and seals in natural gas wells.

After looking at dozens of cases of suspected contamination, the scientists focused on eight hydraulically fractured wells in those states, where they chemically linked the tainted water to the gas wells. They then used chemical analysis to figure out when in the process of gas extraction methane leaked into groundwater.

http://www.pressherald.com/2014/09/1...d-groundwater/



Faulty wells, not deep underground fracking, is the main reason that natural gas extraction from shale rock has contaminated drinking water in parts of Texas and Pennsylvania, says a study Monday by researchers from five universities.

As natural gas production increases in the United States, so, too, have reports of well water contaminated with methane. Now a study, the first to make comprehensive use of "stray gas forensics," not only found pollution in multiple wells but also identifies the culprit.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/...ater/15631955/




keep your head in the sand, by all means, I'm not here to convince you of anything.

bushwacker

Ping pong balls, lol.....

NewOldPlayer

Thank god for "copy and paste." How else would trolls look intelligent online?

Rochard

And this looks great, but.... While this self taught 17 year old is mighty impressive, he most likely violated every rule required in building such an arm. Being as he build everything out of cheap plastic for $500, it most likely won't stand up to any testing and won't last long - surely not long enough for any company or any doctor to attempt to install it on someone.

I am guessing I can build a car pretty cheaply too if I wanted to but it surely won't be to the same quality as the larger car makers.

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dyna mo

yup, you've sure razzle dazzled us all with your distorted recollections of history, loony claims of USA going down the spiral like ancient rome all while flippantly brushing-off of future tech.

well played.

NewOldPlayer

Hey you fucking troll... at least I come up with my own concepts and opinions. All you do is search Google, copy and paste shit and claim it as your own idea.

Get a life.

And if you don't qualify a national debt that is skyrocketing out of control, poverty on the rise and 1 of out 5 people going to bed hungry in this country as spiraling downward, then I guess our nation is doing just fine in your ignorant mind. Go frack yourself you gaseous moron.

just a punk

In fact the arm wasn't printed. Only some simple parts of it were. Everything else was assembled my a human using various tools and additional elements (electric, electronic and mechanical ones).

You can do it much faster by filling the special forms with a plastic and not only, because you can use clay, various metals, glass etc. E.g.:



As you can see, this is a much more progressive method because it's faster, easier and allows one to use almost any material *trollface*

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just a punk

This is not a 3d printing. Bioprinters use almost the same technologies as the old good ink printers. So that's not a good example again ;)

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dyna mo

yes, in your world being wrong trumps being right because, you know, you thought of it all own your own.

feel free to quote any post of mine where I've c&p'ed something and claimed it as my own.

dyna mo

dear sore loser, you asked for a fucking ping pong ball and you got one, realize you lost the debate.

next, if you think the bioprinting example I posted above isn't 3d printing, you should stay away from arguing about things you clearly have no knowledge of.

New 3D bioprinter to reproduce human organs, change the face of healthcare: The inside story

http://www.techrepublic.com/article/...-human-organs/

just a punk

Not really bright people use this popular "3D" term even when they are talking about usual stereo image ("wow they show 3D movies here!") So what exactly 3D in bioprinter? It can "pint" something in the air? The same applies to your "ping-pong" ball. Because it is not a ping-pong ball at all. Course if you want, you can use even a golf ball, but it won't be a ping-pong game.

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dyna mo

no wonder the ruble is plummeting.