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fifty Ice caps

aka123

I don't get your point, that proves many things either way. Don't you get it, it wasn't some fucking tale. Most people couldn't even read and still you wonder about some misconceptions about Earth's from. There is no valid reason for telling intentionally some story about flat Earth for the means of misguiding the common folk.

I haven't said that Vikings or Columbus were the first ones in America. Haven't you heard about the "Indians"? Or do you think that I haven't heard about them?

You have some nice mixture of believing people total idiots and some fucking geniuses at the same time. Columbus was looking for India, that is pretty much espablished. I don't know about the Vikings, but I don't think that they knew about America before sailing to there. Good night, or whatever you have in there.

Dvae

Anyone heard from Al Gore lately?





This really says it all!

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TheSquealer

Poor Al. A decade of a cooling climate and he's become irrelevant. Maybe he he'd be in the news again if he just made up some random bullshit to scare people?

... oh, wait....

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crockett

Poor you, that you seem incapable of finding actual facts and just believe whatever your right wing pundents tell you. Seriously where do you get a "decade of cooling" that is probably the most idiotic and uninformed statement I've ever read.



Three of the hottest years on record have happened in the last 10 years.. 2006, 2010, 2013. Unlisted on that chart is 2013 has tied with the 4th hottest year since 1880. Seriously do you have any capability to think for yourself or can you only parrot bullshit you find on your right wing sites and are just incapable of searching out actual facts for yourself?

It's called averages for a reason, because some years are cooler and some are higher, but the trend is still warming, not fucking cooling.

TheSquealer

Crockett, you're way to angry. Obviously i was being facetious. I am sure your living situation doesn't help, but then again, it's your attitude which forces you to live in a small van, have no roots, no community, no relationships etc.

I kinda feel bad for you a little bit. Your posts read like a chronicle of misery and unhappiness.

crockett

I'm having the time of my life.. I hiked 3 mountains this weekend, what did you do? I simply have no more tolerance for you guys and your uninformed bullshit.

TheSquealer

Yes, every maladjusted lunatic forced into a life of solitude has the same story about enjoying life, personal choices and so on. It helps ease the pain.

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I already gave you a good reason for telling them because they wanted to keep their tax base and/or human capital stupid and oblivious. Same reason we have countries with boarders now.

As you said most people couldn't read so they obviously would believe anything a superior and/or intellectual person would tell them. Hell billions of people believe in the religeous fairytales to this day. What's the intention behind that?

You act like everyone during those times were all monkey brained cavemen. The Egyptians can build these great pyramids that to this day baffle modern day scientist yet they couldn't figure out the earth was round and inform everyone else for thousands of years?

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I agree with you 100%. People deny reality because they are afraid of it #1, because they are sold the lie #2, because they don't want to accept the fact that they have been sold that like #3.



Amen brother.


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crockett

I'm sorry that you are so upset with your political party that when voting time comes around, it's a choice between a Democrat and a baboon. I am truly sorry that you feel the need to harp on and on the "party line" even knowing yourself that it's really bull shit. I'm also sorry that knowing that you just parrot the uninformed party line, that your only recourse is to personally attack people with even more made up BS, because as usual you never have a leg to stand on with any argument when it comes to right wing bullshit facts.

Most of all, I'm sorry that this has to be pointed out to you by a guy that drives around the country in a vw van for months on end, enjoying life while you sit at the same desk day after day, doing the same thing over and over again.

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SuckOnThis

You know you've lost the argument when you go from debating the issue to attacking someones lifestyle.

12clicks

Wow, this thread has gone two pages already because the intellectual bottom (Crockett and his ilk) still defend Al gore and the lie of global warming.
It's no wonder you're such fucking failures. Hahaha

Mutt

The violent crime rate has been going down, perhaps we should fire half of our police forces.

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OP = Moron.

Any person on the planet that doesn't understand science should not be able to render an opinion. It's like listening to a monkey pressing buttons and trying to make sentences; you just don't add up correctly.

Go back to your bible and your "I Heart Bush" button tacked to your frontal lobe.

vegasbobby

I did some research about this when I really didn't know what to believe. And it turns out that scientists and actually brought this to the forefront the public. It was Al Gore in the seventies by himself. He attended a college class with a professor. That had done a study about Corbin and its effects in the atmosphere back after World War II.. Al Gore started telling everyone that the pollution that they saw in the sky smog. Had everything to do with it.and another suspicious thing is that all the global warming advocates.. At what they call weather models.they actually don't have a hard proven fact. Except that they believe there's more carbon in the air. Dinner was before in past history. But if you look at aa historical weather graph all way back to Napoleon. You can see that the earth is been much much harder than it ever has been today.but the mere fact that a politician bought this forward and not a scientist. Should suggest that there is something very fishy. And the last point is all of the advocates are paid for by the federal government to do their studies.

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NobleSavage

Here is a nice comprehensive list of every denialist claim and the rebuttal.

http://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php

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CO2 is a basic element in all life forms. Without it you, me and pretty much everything else would not exist. Greenhouses pump this "greenhouse gas" in to increase growth. If the CO2 levels increase on Earth then naturally all life increases. The grass would be greener on the other side. If Al Gore had his way he would decrease CO2 to 0. That really is his stated goal. Which in reality isn't possible but by doing so essentially you would halt all forms of life/growth.

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I don't think I'd be wrong if I said I am certain if I gave you a high school level Biology, Chemistry and Physics exam you'd score below the slowest kid in the class.

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The funny thing about Al Gore, is he literally pushed the right over the edge to bat shit crazy. Prior to Al Gore writing his little book and doing lectures most Right wing politicians even the so called conservatives agreed global warming was a problem. Then Al Gore wrote a book and made a movie about it and overnight the right wing propaganda machine started going haywire.

Al Gore is the man, he drove the GOP bat shit crazy to the point they are unelectable to the Oval Office, he didn't even win the presidency and they still go nuts over him.

aka123

It's sad that I didn't say this earlier: this is fucking off topic and you are some basic tin foil hat guy, and there is no fucking use to have this conversation.

aka123

Nice "bullshit" you have in there. Similar to "climate changes". Could you tell also that we have to eat to live or something like that, that is as relevant to the subject?

About Al, I don't think he have said that there shouldn't be CO2 at all. But he might have said that human induced CO2 print is 0. And whatever he has said, it really doesn't matter. It's just fucking tactic to personify some subject to one guy and then make that guy look like ridiculous and the whole subject with him.

Wait a minute, I forgot to prove my point: tree is a plant, and thus I am right. I also have to eat to stay alive, that furthen proves my point.

SuckOnThis

It's also considered a poison at high enough concentrates. Shit grows food too, does that mean we should swim in it?

aka123

We need water too, pretty much all life on Earth depends on it. Too bad no one told Noah about it, it would have saved him for the troubles of building the ark.

EonBlue

Are you for real? Did you actually just write that sentence and then refer to others as uneducated? I don't expect much from a communist but really that is ridiculous.


I think it's ridiculous when somebody thinks they are a lot smarter than they really are and whose primary line of reasoning is based solely on appeal to authority.


I hope you were looking in the mirror when you wrote that sentence. You, like **********, aka123 and others are not nearly as smart as you think you are. You have all been sold and told what to say and think as much as anybody on the other side of the argument.


Skepticism has always been and should remain the default position of any scientific inquiry. Anyone who claims that the "science is settled" isn't practicing science but is instead engaging in politics.

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end in doubts; but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. - Sir Francis Bacon




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EonBlue

That's not really a relevant argument to make. Everything can be a poison at high enough concentrations.

The atmosphere is nowhere near toxic levels of CO2 and will never reach toxic levels because of human activity.

_Richard_

lol deja vu!

aka123

Not just poison, also otherwise harmful, and that was the point. This is numbers game.

SuckOnThis

You're the guy who claimed a 400,000 PPM level of C02 was not harmful and I showed you how 100,000 PPM's is deadly to humans. You still sticking to that point?

slapass

You do know that this has nothing to do with what you quoted right? It doesn't work as an analogy at all. Just saying.

slapass

Your certainty would be better if you hadn't posted this one post above -

"If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end in doubts; but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. - Sir Francis Bacon"

Robbie

Let us all know when Al Gore himself stops riding around in big limousines, private jets, and living in a giant mansion with a "carbon footprint" the size of a small town.

He is part of the elite "ruling class" that tell YOU to live like a caveman while THEY live like kings and profit off of "carbon credits"

I'll believe that climate change is "man-made" when I see the govt take action and hypocrites like Al Gore live their lives the way they expect you to.

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Vendzilla

I remember when a few years ago when all the country heads had a big meeting in some country over global warming and all showed up in their private jets.

I have one word for those that preach it, Gullible

17 years 9 months since the last change in the climate

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think about that

_Richard_

'Copenhagen climate summit: 1,200 limos, 140 private planes and caviar wedges'

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/cop...ar-wedges.html

but, how does out of touch politicians take away from all this?

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Plants need CO2 to survive and thrive, you need plants to survive and thrive..

What was your point again? Because it seems to me you agree we need more CO2.

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aka123

No, my point was that trees are plants.

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To bring human induced CO2 to 0 that would require no humans. We breathe and fart CO2.

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And?????

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aka123

No and..


LOL. Don't you really get it?

Vendzilla

This is what's in a fart
Nitrogen: 20-90%
Hydrogen: 0-50% (flammable)
Carbon dioxide: 10-30%
Oxygen: 0-10%
Methane: 0-10% (flammable)

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think about that

dyna mo

in other words: both sides are responsible for politicizing curbing pollution. In fact, al gore was the impetus and motivator behind politicizing curbing pollution(making it a democratic keystone) and consequently impeding the progress by polarizing the effort.

Vendzilla

Al Gore is one of them, out of touch politicians are who the idiots are listening to, and they don't give a rats ass about it!

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think about that

Vendzilla

LOL, he just doesn't get it!

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think about that

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No, unless you mean trees need CO2 to survive and thrive just as much as every other plant. Which would contradict any point you have made. So I assume you have no point. I think I would be better off talking to my plants, at least they would get something out of it.. My CO2 emissions.

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aka123

I "guess" you really don't get the concept of CO2 footprint. Have a plant that makes (uses) up your CO2 emissions and you have 0 CO2 footprint.

aka123

Well, don't get it.

Plants needing CO2 contradicts something I have said?

slapass

George Bush Sr signed the law to reduce sulfur and sort of accelerated the problem. One possible solution is to pump sulfur into the atmosphere. We were doing that until good old George.

How is Al Gore responsible for 1/2 the US ignoring any reasonable argument? Just focus on the science and see where you end up.

_Richard_

he is a guy who made a movie about it.. i am not sure these idiot scientists started spending all this time cause Gore said so..

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You have argued all along about this overabundance of CO2. You can't have it both ways. If there was anywhere near too much in the atmosphere why would greenhouses need to pump copious amounts in?

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dyna mo

Thanks for proving my point, which was it makes no difference which side or whom did what, the fact is the act/behavior of curbing pollution is a political issue. It makes zero difference in that light which side your or I opine contributed the most. I happen to think gore did with his book and carbon credit scam. You happen to think bush sr "sort of accelerated the problem" with a sulfer law.

that's the problem, now you and i are arguing about that instead of about the real problem: pollution.

And bringing up "the science" on the matter only distracts even more. Blinding people with politicized science does not impact their behavior and get more people to pollute less.