US Polititian.... unbelievable: "All vets are mentally ill...

[CDSmith]

Dianne Feinstein: "All vets are mentally ill in some way and government should prevent them from owning firearms."



Yep, - she really said it on Thursday in a meeting in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee... and the quote below from the LA Times is priceless. Sometimes even the L.A. Times gets it right.



Kurt Nimmo: "Senator Feinstein insults all U.S. Veterans as she flays about in a vain attempt to save her anti-firearms bill."



Quote of the Day from the Los Angeles Times:



"Frankly, I don't know what it is about California, but we seem to have a strange urge to elect really obnoxious women to high office. I'm not bragging, you understand, but no other state, including Maine, even comes close.

When it comes to sending left-wing dingbats to Washington, we're Number One. There's no getting around the fact that the last time anyone saw the likes of Barbara Boxer, Dianne Feinstein, Maxine Waters, and Nancy Pelosi, they were stirring a cauldron when the curtain went up on 'Macbeth'. The four of them are like jackasses who happen to possess the gift of blab.

You don't know if you should condemn them for their stupidity or simply marvel at their ability to form words."



Columnist Burt Prelutsky,

Los Angeles Times



Be sure to forward this to all of the "mentally ill" vets you know.

Especially the ones with guns.

[L-Pink]

Deport the cunt.

[Vendzilla]

She's the one that said the republicans cut the spending for embassies , that was a bold face lie! I hate that bitch, I can't understand why people keep re electing her?

[CDSmith]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

She's the one that said the republicans cut the spending for embassies , that was a bold face lie! I hate that bitch, I can't understand why people keep re electing her?

Me neither.

[tony286]

http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/feinstein.asp

she didnt say it

[tony286]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

She's the one that said the republicans cut the spending for embassies , that was a bold face lie! I hate that bitch, I can't understand why people keep re electing her?

nope wasnt a lie
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_1954912.html

"Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) acknowledged on Wednesday that House Republicans had consciously voted to reduce the funds allocated to the State Department for embassy security since winning the majority in 2010."

"For the past two years, House Republicans have continued to deprioritize the security forces protecting State Department personnel around the world. In fiscal year 2011, lawmakers shaved $128 million off of the administration's request for embassy security funding. House Republicans drained off even more funds in fiscal year 2012 -- cutting back on the department's request by $331 million."

[Useless Warrior]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Be sure to forward this to all of the "mentally ill" vets you know.

As a mentally ill vet, I assure, I should not own a firearm.

[deltav]

Jesus christ guys, she didn't remotely say that.

You can disagree with what she actually did say - that vets who are *mentally incapacitated* should be screened when buying firearms - but this indignant reposting of completely exaggerated fake quotes is kinda immature.

I know it feeds your sense of outrage against someone you already hate, but maybe think about verifying stuff beforehand and argue the merits of what was actually said.

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Originally Posted by tony286

http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/feinstein.asp

she didnt say it

Aw, c'mon, the usual bozos are already frothing at the mouth as they grab their pitchforks and torches, about this Breaking Old Fucking News:

Twisting Feinstein’s Words on Military Vets
Posted on April 17, 2013

Q: Did Sen. Dianne Feinstein say all military veterans are mentally ill and should not be allowed to own guns?

A: No. She said veterans should not be exempt from her proposed assault weapons ban, citing post-traumatic stress disorder as a concern. She did not say all veterans suffer from PTSD or that all veterans should not own guns.

FULL QUESTION
Did Dianne Feinstein really say all veterans are mentally ill and should not be allowed to own guns? The quote was supposed to have occurred in a Senate committee meeting.

FULL ANSWER
This claim — which has gone viral — grossly distorts what Feinstein actually said at a March 7 Senate hearing on her legislation, the Assault Weapons Ban of 2013.

At the hearing, Sen. John Cornyn of Texas offered an amendment that would have exempted military veterans from the assault weapons ban. The bill provides very few exceptions for individuals. As we’ve written before, the bill exempts active military members and law enforcement. It also provides an exemption, in some cases, for retired law enforcement officials.

The legislation says that if a law enforcement agency sells or transfers a semiautomatic weapon on the prohibited list to an officer upon retirement or if that officer had such a weapon for “official use before such retirement” then the retired officer can keep the weapon if that person is “retired in good standing” and is “not otherwise prohibited from receiving a firearm, of a semiautomatic weapon.”

Cornyn argued that if retired police officers can keep their weapons, then military veterans should be able, too. He spoke as if all retired police officers are exempt, but they are not. (The committee’s discussion of Cornyn’s amendment can be found at the 1-hour, 32-minute mark of the C-Span video tape of the bill’s markup.)

Feinstein, a California Democrat, noted that there was no exemption for military veterans in the assault weapons ban that was enacted in 1994 as part of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994. That ban expired in 2004. She then went on to discuss her concerns for providing an exemption for military veterans.

Feinstein, March 7: If I understand this, this adds an exemption of retired military. As I understand our bill, no issue has arose in this regard during the 10 years the expired ban was in effect and what we did in the other bill was exempt possession by the United States or a department or agency of the United States. So that included active military.

The problem with expanding this is that, you know, with the advent of PTSD, which I think is a new phenomenon as a product of the Iraq War, it’s not clear how the seller or transferrer of a firearm covered by this bill would verify that an individual was a member, or a veteran, and that there was no impairment of that individual with respect to having a weapon like this.

So, you know, I would be happy to sit down with you again and see if we could work something out but I think we have to– if you’re going to do this — find a way that veterans who are incapacitated for one reason or another mentally don’t have access to this kind of weapon.

First, Feinstein is wrong when she says that post-traumatic stress disorder, or PTSD, “is a new phenomenon as a product of the Iraq War.”

Combat veterans, crime victims, survivors of natural disasters and others who experienced traumatic events have long suffered from symptoms of what we now know as PTSD. According to the National Institutes of Health, PTSD was officially recognized in 1980 “as a disorder with specific symptoms,” and it was added to the American Psychiatric Association’s Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. A 1990 study found 15 percent of all Vietnam veterans were suffering from PTSD.

But Cornyn and others have misrepresented her remarks. After Feinstein spoke, Cornyn had this exchange with the committee chairman, Democratic Sen. Pat Leahy of Vermont.
Cornyn, March 7: I think it’s a mistake to paint so broadly as to say that any active duty military or veterans can’t use these kinds of weapons or any other lawful weapons for self-defense, and certainly I wouldn’t want to suggest that we think people who served in the military all suffer from some debilitating illness that would prohibit them from being able to defend themselves.

Leahy: That suggestion has not been made by anybody on either side of the aisle here.

Leahy is right. Feinstein did not say that “people in the military all suffer from some debilitating illness,” and she did not say that they “can’t use … any other lawful weapons.” She was clearly talking about a subset of veterans (not all of them) and certain guns (assault weapons prohibited under her bill) when she expressed concerns about a gun seller being able to verify that there is “no impairment of that individual with respect to having a weapon like this.” (The emphasis is our own.)

Regardless, as The Daily Beast reported three days later, her comments “ignited a firestorm” on the Internet.

The Daily Beast, March 10: Not surprisingly, these comments have ignited a firestorm of angry responses that have spread across social media and the conservative and pro-gun blogosphere.

On the Constitutional Conservatives website, one post said Feinstein “needs to go to prison over this matter—treason! This woman is despicable … They’re just using PTSD and/or mental illness as an excuse to deny veterans their God-given Second Amendment rights to keep and bear arms.”

Conservative website and bloggers twisted her words to suggest she meant ALL vets. One site, mrconservative.com, posted a blog item on March 9 that gave this interpretation of Feinstein’s remarks: “Translation? All vets suffer from PTSD; PTSD makes them crazy; crazy people can’t get guns.” That post was “liked” by more than 59,000 Facebook users.
The headline of that post was, “Sen. Feinstein Says All Our Veterans Are Mentally Ill And Can’t Own Guns.” All veterans? All guns? No, that’s not what she said.

Feinstein’s concern about the military is not misplaced. It’s well documented that military veterans suffering from PTSD are a danger to themselves and others. The FBI website carries a July 2011 article advising law enforcement how to negotiate with war veterans in crisis situations.

In that article, the FBI cites studies that show the increased prevalence of PTSD among military veterans returning from Afghanistan and Iraq.

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[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by tony286

nope wasnt a lie
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_1954912.html

"Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) acknowledged on Wednesday that House Republicans had consciously voted to reduce the funds allocated to the State Department for embassy security since winning the majority in 2010."

"For the past two years, House Republicans have continued to deprioritize the security forces protecting State Department personnel around the world. In fiscal year 2011, lawmakers shaved $128 million off of the administration's request for embassy security funding. House Republicans drained off even more funds in fiscal year 2012 -- cutting back on the department's request by $331 million."

Thanks for proving my point, apparently you can't read, they cut their request, not the spending itself! Democrats cut the request when they were in power, the funds have been going up every year.

Oct. 10, 2012 hearing:
QUESTION: It has been suggested that budget cuts were responsible for a lack of security in Benghazi. And I'd like to ask Ms. Lamb, you made this decision personally. Was there any budget consideration and lack of budget which led you not to increase the number of people in the security force there?
DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF STATE CHARLENE LAMB: No, sir.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by tony286

nope wasnt a lie
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_1954912.html

"Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) acknowledged on Wednesday that House Republicans had consciously voted to reduce the funds allocated to the State Department for embassy security since winning the majority in 2010."

"For the past two years, House Republicans have continued to deprioritize the security forces protecting State Department personnel around the world. In fiscal year 2011, lawmakers shaved $128 million off of the administration's request for embassy security funding. House Republicans drained off even more funds in fiscal year 2012 -- cutting back on the department's request by $331 million."

Your wrong - nothing in your even mentions Feinstein no less the term "mentally ill".

I'm not defending either side, but you are claiming that she did say it, and then link to article that has nothing to do with Feinstein or anything she ever said.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Thanks for proving my point, apparently you can't read, they cut their request, not the spending itself! Democrats cut the request when they were in power, the funds have been going up every year.

Oct. 10, 2012 hearing:
QUESTION: It has been suggested that budget cuts were responsible for a lack of security in Benghazi. And I'd like to ask Ms. Lamb, you made this decision personally. Was there any budget consideration and lack of budget which led you not to increase the number of people in the security force there?
DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF STATE CHARLENE LAMB: No, sir.

It's quite ironic that you believe this "one" fact from the Benghazi investigations but you ignore everything else that says there was no cover ups and that Obama gave no stand downs, ect..ect..

It's amazing that you have these wonderful powers of interpretation that allow you to decide what is true and what is false, based on the sole reasoning of if it's good for the the right or is bad for the left.

Quite simply amazing I must say again...

[Cherry7]

There really is something wrong will people who travel to other lands and murder men women and children on the basis of the most crass and stupid propaganda.

[mopek1]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Dianne Feinstein: "All vets are mentally ill in some way and government should prevent them from owning firearms."

When I read the title I thought it referred to 'Veterinarians' LOL ...

I actually would agree more if it were.

They over charge people for unnecessary tests on their animals and use guilt and play on people's emotions to take their money.

War vets on the other hand, if they are mentally ill is because they went through atrocities we've never imagined and need our help to recover. Otherwise they are just like anyone else in society.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Your wrong - nothing in your even mentions Feinstein no less the term "mentally ill".

I'm not defending either side, but you are claiming that she did say it, and then link to article that has nothing to do with Feinstein or anything she ever said.

Rochard slowly read the whole post again. I believe in you

[tony286]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Thanks for proving my point, apparently you can't read, they cut their request, not the spending itself! Democrats cut the request when they were in power, the funds have been going up every year.

Oct. 10, 2012 hearing:
QUESTION: It has been suggested that budget cuts were responsible for a lack of security in Benghazi. And I'd like to ask Ms. Lamb, you made this decision personally. Was there any budget consideration and lack of budget which led you not to increase the number of people in the security force there?
DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF STATE CHARLENE LAMB: No, sir.

I didnt prove your point ,I proved you make shit up. You said the budget cuts were a lie and a republican congressman said they werent.

[seeandsee]

what a cunt!

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Dianne Feinstein: "All vets are mentally ill in some way and government should prevent them from owning firearms."



Yep, - she really said it on Thursday in a meeting in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee... and the quote below from the LA Times is priceless. Sometimes even the L.A. Times gets it right.



Kurt Nimmo: "Senator Feinstein insults all U.S. Veterans as she flays about in a vain attempt to save her anti-firearms bill."



Quote of the Day from the Los Angeles Times:



"Frankly, I don't know what it is about California, but we seem to have a strange urge to elect really obnoxious women to high office. I'm not bragging, you understand, but no other state, including Maine, even comes close.

When it comes to sending left-wing dingbats to Washington, we're Number One. There's no getting around the fact that the last time anyone saw the likes of Barbara Boxer, Dianne Feinstein, Maxine Waters, and Nancy Pelosi, they were stirring a cauldron when the curtain went up on 'Macbeth'. The four of them are like jackasses who happen to possess the gift of blab.

You don't know if you should condemn them for their stupidity or simply marvel at their ability to form words."



Columnist Burt Prelutsky,

Los Angeles Times



Be sure to forward this to all of the "mentally ill" vets you know.

Especially the ones with guns.

i.e. lets keep weapons away from people trained to use them

[tony286]

Originally Posted by tony286

I didnt prove your point ,I proved you make shit up. You said the budget cuts were a lie and a republican congressman said they werent.

I had just woken up when I answered this. You dont make shit up but want to believe the most made up shit thats how the gop gets you to vote against your own interests. The GOP has to make up shit because they really have nothing on a center right conservative president. If you look past the bullshit he says and the fox blackula is coming to get you he is center right. I love when you say liberals , wake up besides bernie and liz there are no more.

[arock10]

Oh no facts!! We can't have that!

[slapass]

Originally Posted by Cherry7

There really is something wrong will people who travel to other lands and murder men women and children on the basis of the most crass and stupid propaganda.

It did occur to me to. Anyone who joins the military might be a bit touched by definition.

I wasn't able to find news so I skipped answering the first time. It is nice to see it is fake. I think it is odd that the CIA spied on this Senator. You would think even the fucked up GOP would be against that.

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by Cherry7

There really is something wrong will people who travel to other lands and murder men women and children on the basis of the most crass and stupid propaganda.

there is something far more wrong with a civilian who actually thinks that is what their military does..

[crockett]

Originally Posted by seeandsee

what a cunt!

She didn't say it... How about calling the people whom lied about what was said a cunt?

How about reading a bit and trying to do a bit of self investigation, the only reason shit like this goes on, is because most people are too ignorant to check sources for themselves and just willingly believe anything they see in print..

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by tony286

I had just woken up when I answered this. You dont make shit up but want to believe the most made up shit thats how the gop gets you to vote against your own interests. The GOP has to make up shit because they really have nothing on a center right conservative president. If you look past the bullshit he says and the fox blackula is coming to get you he is center right. I love when you say liberals , wake up besides bernie and liz there are no more.

What? That's not what I said!

Feinstein said that the GOP cut spending to the embassies, they didn't, they cut the proposed spending! She lied!

Where the fuck did I make this up?

My own interests? Seriously? Median wages are down, tax collection is at an all time high and everything Obama promised about Obamacare was a lie!

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by tony286

cutting back on the department's request by $331 million."

Yet every year the budget for the embassies go up, they didn't cut the funding, they cut the request, that has always been cut, even when the democrats controlled the house.

Feinstein and Boxer both said they cut the budget in a way to make it look like it was the GOP's fault for the Benghazi attack, fuck them!

Oct. 10, 2012 hearing:
QUESTION: It has been suggested that budget cuts were responsible for a lack of security in Benghazi. And I'd like to ask Ms. Lamb, you made this decision personally. Was there any budget consideration and lack of budget which led you not to increase the number of people in the security force there?
DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF STATE CHARLENE LAMB: No, sir.

[_Richard_]

'Senator Feinstein Finally Finds Surveillance To Get Angry About: When It Happened To Her Staffers'

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201...staffers.shtml

womans a piece of work

[CDSmith]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

'Senator Feinstein Finally Finds Surveillance To Get Angry About: When It Happened To Her Staffers'

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201...staffers.shtml

womans a piece of work

Yes, but "let's not let facts get in the way...."

Whether she said the original thing about vets or not, what experience or expert insight gives her license to even stick her nose into vets or their rights to own firearms in the first place?

Once in a while you actually nail it Richard. This woman is indeed a piece of work. Even if that forwarded email I posted is inaccurate, what the LA times writer published in response to what she DID say would seem to be 100% accurate. I see no one is commenting about that though.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Yes, but "let's not let facts get in the way...."

Whether she said the original thing about vets or not, what experience or expert insight gives her license to even stick her nose into vets or their rights to own firearms in the first place?

Once in a while you actually nail it Richard. This woman is indeed a piece of work. Even if that forwarded email I posted is inaccurate, what the LA times writer published in response to what she DID say would seem to be 100% accurate. I see no one is commenting about that though.

it's not inaccurate, you are reading something that is spun.

so because she didn't say the exact words: 'all vets are mentally ill'

what she did say with the prevalence of a "new" phenomena known as "PTSD", vets suffering from this disorder (basically all of them) shouldn't own assualt weapons:

If I understand this, this [amendment] adds an exemption of retired military. As I understand our bill, no issue has arose [sic] in this regard during the 10 years the expired ban was in effect and what we did in the other bill was exempt possession by the United States or a department or agency of the United States. So that included active military. The problem with expanding this is that, you know, with the advent of PTSD, which I think is a new phenomenon as a product of the Iraq War, it?s not clear how the seller or transferrer of a firearm covered by this bill would verify that an individual was a member, or a veteran, and that there was no impairment of that individual with respect to having a weapon like this. So, you know, I would be happy to sit down with you again and see if we could work something out but I think we have to ? if you?re going to do this, find a way that veterans who are incapacitated for one reason or another mentally don?t have access to this kind of weapon.

political..

[deltav]

I don't really give a fuck about Feinstein one way or another, but this shit's getting all sorts of distorted.

These committee meetings have somewhat free-flowing conversation and speaking spontaneously you don't always phrase things exactly what was meant. Whatever my political opinions of Feinstein, she wasn't born yesterday, she knows PTSD isn't "new". But with Iraq/Afghanistan there is a currently "new" phenomenon of vets coming home from combat tours many of whom do have serious PTSD issues due to *very recent & raw* trauma. This is a population that didn't exist in say the late 90s before these wars.

I know a couple guys back from both places who struggle with that stuff daily. I've also seen people dear to me totally lose their shit because of PTSD from Vietnam or Korea, when a helicopter flew overhead or in one case when a fucking radio broadcast came on during the 1st Iraq war. In those instances, they were completely "back there" mentally, it was really really intense and scary for all involved. When a loved family member is huddled in a supermarket aisle because for all intents & purposes he's back at Chosin with frostbite in his feet and getting shot at by the Chinese and thinks he's going to die, and is screaming at you and everyone else nearby, welp... it's fucked up.

People suffering from frequent bouts of that could possibly be restricted from owning firearms. You might disagree with this, but it's a reasonable discussion to have.

CDSmith, as for people calling you out on a completely false and misrepresented quote that you chose for the title of your topic, what the hell do you expect? Like I mentioned before, if you wanna argue the merits of what was actually said - sure. But a lot of us couldn't care less about a made-up quote reposted ad nauseum by a bunch of tards, or an opinion column written by the same far-right shill who once wrote an article about how Fox News had too many left-wing commentators and needed to go further right.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by tony286

Rochard slowly read the whole post again. I believe in you

Okay sure. You said:

nope wasnt a lie
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_1954912.html

"Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) acknowledged on Wednesday that House Republicans had consciously voted to reduce the funds allocated to the State Department for embassy security since winning the majority in 2010."

"For the past two years, House Republicans have continued to deprioritize the security forces protecting State Department personnel around the world. In fiscal year 2011, lawmakers shaved $128 million off of the administration's request for embassy security funding. House Republicans drained off even more funds in fiscal year 2012 -- cutting back on the department's request by $331 million."

Again, it was a lie - She never said that. And again, the article you pointed to says nothing about Feinstein and nothing about vets being mentally ill.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Yet every year the budget for the embassies go up, they didn't cut the funding, they cut the request, that has always been cut, even when the democrats controlled the house.

Feinstein and Boxer both said they cut the budget in a way to make it look like it was the GOP's fault for the Benghazi attack, fuck them!

read again slowly and the dems dont control the house:
Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) acknowledged on Wednesday that House Republicans had consciously voted to reduce the funds allocated to the State Department for embassy security since winning the majority in 2010."

Its what he said, cant dance around it with bullshit.

[TampaToker]

lol in 31 replies this thread has gone off topic quick. No wonder we got all these fucked up politicians in place the large part of the voting population has adhd....

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by tony286

read again slowly and the dems dont control the house:
Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) acknowledged on Wednesday that House Republicans had consciously voted to reduce the funds allocated to the State Department for embassy security since winning the majority in 2010."

Its what he said, cant dance around it with bullshit.

That's not a quote, he never said allocated

They reduced the REQUEST , not the amount allocated.

The history of it is when the democrats were in there, they always reduced the amount from the request, yet the funds keep going up every year like clock work

[mopek1]

Originally Posted by deltav

I know a couple guys back from both places who struggle with that stuff daily. I've also seen people dear to me totally lose their shit because of PTSD from Vietnam or Korea, when a helicopter flew overhead or in one case when a fucking radio broadcast came on during the 1st Iraq war. In those instances, they were completely "back there" mentally, it was really really intense and scary for all involved. When a loved family member is huddled in a supermarket aisle because for all intents & purposes he's back at Chosin with frostbite in his feet and getting shot at by the Chinese and thinks he's going to die, and is screaming at you and everyone else nearby, welp... it's fucked up.

These types of vets who sacrificed their sanity are the ones who we need to support.

All politicians yell, "Support the troops!" when they really mean, "support my view on this war" ... then, when they come back with PTSD they are forgotten and discarded. That is not support. That is 'using' them.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by TampaToker

lol in 31 replies this thread has gone off topic quick. No wonder we got all these fucked up politicians in place the large part of the voting population has adhd....

This is exactly what happens in every political topic on GFY specially if it revolves around people on the right being proven wrong. All the GFY conservibros will argue endlessly about some minute point that has little to nothing to do with the actual topic while ignoring the evidence that proves them wrong on the actual topic like the plague.

Look at Vendzilla here as prime example. He wont even touch the actual topic being it's been out right proven to be wrong. He will instead argue non stop about shit that doesn't even relate.

That's if he is willing to accept the proof given.. like in this cases it's pretty clear cut what she said vs what the critics made up.. However it wont stop him from rehashing the same lie in another topic hoping no one will notice.

It's the ole George Bush thing and truthisms.. If it sounds good to them it must be true..

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by TampaToker

lol in 31 replies this thread has gone off topic quick. No wonder we got all these fucked up politicians in place the large part of the voting population has adhd....

you think your own off-topic post proves your point.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Dianne Feinstein: "All vets are mentally ill in some way and government should prevent them from owning firearms."



Yep, - she really said it on Thursday in a meeting in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee....

Nope! She didn't.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/feinstein.asp

You do know that senator Diane Feinstein has every right to be anti-gun, don't you? Her windows were shot out of her home in the 70's. And when Feinstein was serving under George Moscone, she found the dead bodies of San Francisco Mayor George Moscone and city supervisor Harvey Milk, after they were murdered by former city supervisor Dan White, who had recently resigned. Milk was her friend, and she found the guy shot. Even if you don't agree with her politics, you have to at least give her a little leeway to say what she wants on the subject.

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Deport the cunt.

Really? Ever had a friend get shot? Ever been shot at yourself? No? Hmm...

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

She's the one that said the republicans cut the spending for embassies , that was a bold face lie! I hate that bitch, I can't understand why people keep re electing her?

That's because republicans DID cut spending for embassies.

Jason Chaffetz Admits House GOP Cut Funding For Embassy Security: 'You Have To Prioritize Things'

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_1954912.html

The thing about right-wing republican nut jobs is that you can't attack most dems on what they REALLY say and do, so they have to INVENT things. They hate Obama because he's black, but they can't say it, so they instead demonize the guy and make up endless, endless stupid shit (He's "not American", or he's a "Socialist / Marxist / Communist / Nudist " whatever), or claim he said "you didn't bulls that". LOL!!! Be careful you don't go full-teaparty Vendzilla, or else there will be no hope for you.

[dyna mo]

There are a lot of fucked up things about California.

Diane Feinstein is at the very top of that list.

[sandman!]

she is a dumb cunt

[crockett]

Originally Posted by sandman!

she is a dumb cunt

She maybe, but she isn't a dumb cunt whom said what CDsmith posted.. It's been proven as more right wing BS.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by deltav

Jesus christ guys, she didn't remotely say that.

You can disagree with what she actually did say - that vets who are *mentally incapacitated* should be screened when buying firearms - but this indignant reposting of completely exaggerated fake quotes is kinda immature.

I know it feeds your sense of outrage against someone you already hate, but maybe think about verifying stuff beforehand and argue the merits of what was actually said.

So they are mentally incapacitated, what ever caused that ?

[mopek1]

Originally Posted by **********

Nope! She didn't.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/feinstein.asp

You do know that senator Diane Feinstein has every right to be anti-gun, don't you? Her windows were shot out of her home in the 70's. And when Feinstein was serving under George Moscone, she found the dead bodies of San Francisco Mayor George Moscone and city supervisor Harvey Milk, after they were murdered by former city supervisor Dan White, who had recently resigned. Milk was her friend, and she found the guy shot. Even if you don't agree with her politics, you have to at least give her a little leeway to say what she wants on the subject.




Really? Ever had a friend get shot? Ever been shot at yourself? No? Hmm...




That's because republicans DID cut spending for embassies.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_1954912.html

The thing about right-wing republican nut jobs is that you can't attack most dems on what they REALLY say and do, so they have to INVENT things. They hate Obama because he's black, but they can't say it, so they instead demonize the guy and make up endless, endless stupid shit (He's "not American", or he's a "Socialist / Marxist / Communist / Nudist " whatever), or claim he said "you didn't bulls that". LOL!!! Be careful you don't go full-teaparty Vendzilla, or else there will be no hope for you.

Man do I ever hear where you are coming from.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by mopek1

Man do I ever hear where you are coming from.

Thanks.. but be careful... agreeing with me gets you hated by a few around here.... ;)

[oppoten]

Originally Posted by Cherry7

There really is something wrong will people who travel to other lands and murder men women and children on the basis of the most crass and stupid propaganda.

But hey, it props up Israel so it's all good

She's only disappointed that they came back.