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  • CDSmith
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • May 2001
    • 51460

    #1

    US Polititian.... unbelievable: "All vets are mentally ill...

    Dianne Feinstein: "All vets are mentally ill in some way and government should prevent them from owning firearms."



    Yep, - she really said it on Thursday in a meeting in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee... and the quote below from the LA Times is priceless. Sometimes even the L.A. Times gets it right.



    Kurt Nimmo: "Senator Feinstein insults all U.S. Veterans as she flays about in a vain attempt to save her anti-firearms bill."



    Quote of the Day from the Los Angeles Times:



    "Frankly, I don't know what it is about California, but we seem to have a strange urge to elect really obnoxious women to high office. I'm not bragging, you understand, but no other state, including Maine, even comes close.

    When it comes to sending left-wing dingbats to Washington, we're Number One. There's no getting around the fact that the last time anyone saw the likes of Barbara Boxer, Dianne Feinstein, Maxine Waters, and Nancy Pelosi, they were stirring a cauldron when the curtain went up on 'Macbeth'. The four of them are like jackasses who happen to possess the gift of blab.

    You don't know if you should condemn them for their stupidity or simply marvel at their ability to form words."



    Columnist Burt Prelutsky,

    Los Angeles Times



    Be sure to forward this to all of the "mentally ill" vets you know.

    Especially the ones with guns.
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  • L-Pink
    working on my tan
    • Mar 2005
    • 39151

    #2
    Deport the cunt.

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    • Vendzilla
      Biker Gnome
      • Mar 2004
      • 23200

      #3
      She's the one that said the republicans cut the spending for embassies , that was a bold face lie! I hate that bitch, I can't understand why people keep re electing her?
      Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
      think about that

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      • CDSmith
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • May 2001
        • 51460

        #4
        Originally posted by Vendzilla
        She's the one that said the republicans cut the spending for embassies , that was a bold face lie! I hate that bitch, I can't understand why people keep re electing her?


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        • tony286
          lurker
          • Aug 2002
          • 57021

          #5
          http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/feinstein.asp

          she didnt say it

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          • tony286
            lurker
            • Aug 2002
            • 57021

            #6
            Originally posted by Vendzilla
            She's the one that said the republicans cut the spending for embassies , that was a bold face lie! I hate that bitch, I can't understand why people keep re electing her?
            nope wasnt a lie
            http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_1954912.html

            "Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) acknowledged on Wednesday that House Republicans had consciously voted to reduce the funds allocated to the State Department for embassy security since winning the majority in 2010."

            "For the past two years, House Republicans have continued to deprioritize the security forces protecting State Department personnel around the world. In fiscal year 2011, lawmakers shaved $128 million off of the administration's request for embassy security funding. House Republicans drained off even more funds in fiscal year 2012 -- cutting back on the department's request by $331 million."

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            • Useless Warrior
              Confirmed User
              • Apr 2004
              • 975

              #7
              Originally posted by CDSmith
              Be sure to forward this to all of the "mentally ill" vets you know.
              As a mentally ill vet, I assure, I should not own a firearm.

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              • deltav
                Confirmed User
                • May 2010
                • 1243

                #8
                Jesus christ guys, she didn't remotely say that.

                You can disagree with what she actually did say - that vets who are *mentally incapacitated* should be screened when buying firearms - but this indignant reposting of completely exaggerated fake quotes is kinda immature.

                I know it feeds your sense of outrage against someone you already hate, but maybe think about verifying stuff beforehand and argue the merits of what was actually said.
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                • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
                  Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 38323

                  #9
                  Originally posted by tony286


                  Aw, c'mon, the usual bozos are already frothing at the mouth as they grab their pitchforks and torches, about this Breaking Old Fucking News:

                  Twisting Feinstein’s Words on Military Vets
                  Posted on April 17, 2013

                  Q: Did Sen. Dianne Feinstein say all military veterans are mentally ill and should not be allowed to own guns?

                  A: No. She said veterans should not be exempt from her proposed assault weapons ban, citing post-traumatic stress disorder as a concern. She did not say all veterans suffer from PTSD or that all veterans should not own guns.

                  FULL QUESTION
                  Did Dianne Feinstein really say all veterans are mentally ill and should not be allowed to own guns? The quote was supposed to have occurred in a Senate committee meeting.

                  FULL ANSWER
                  This claim — which has gone viral — grossly distorts what Feinstein actually said at a March 7 Senate hearing on her legislation, the Assault Weapons Ban of 2013.

                  At the hearing, Sen. John Cornyn of Texas offered an amendment that would have exempted military veterans from the assault weapons ban. The bill provides very few exceptions for individuals. As we’ve written before, the bill exempts active military members and law enforcement. It also provides an exemption, in some cases, for retired law enforcement officials.

                  The legislation says that if a law enforcement agency sells or transfers a semiautomatic weapon on the prohibited list to an officer upon retirement or if that officer had such a weapon for “official use before such retirement” then the retired officer can keep the weapon if that person is “retired in good standing” and is “not otherwise prohibited from receiving a firearm, of a semiautomatic weapon.”

                  Cornyn argued that if retired police officers can keep their weapons, then military veterans should be able, too. He spoke as if all retired police officers are exempt, but they are not. (The committee’s discussion of Cornyn’s amendment can be found at the 1-hour, 32-minute mark of the C-Span video tape of the bill’s markup.)

                  Feinstein, a California Democrat, noted that there was no exemption for military veterans in the assault weapons ban that was enacted in 1994 as part of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994. That ban expired in 2004. She then went on to discuss her concerns for providing an exemption for military veterans.

                  Feinstein, March 7: If I understand this, this adds an exemption of retired military. As I understand our bill, no issue has arose in this regard during the 10 years the expired ban was in effect and what we did in the other bill was exempt possession by the United States or a department or agency of the United States. So that included active military.

                  The problem with expanding this is that, you know, with the advent of PTSD, which I think is a new phenomenon as a product of the Iraq War, it’s not clear how the seller or transferrer of a firearm covered by this bill would verify that an individual was a member, or a veteran, and that there was no impairment of that individual with respect to having a weapon like this.

                  So, you know, I would be happy to sit down with you again and see if we could work something out but I think we have to– if you’re going to do this — find a way that veterans who are incapacitated for one reason or another mentally don’t have access to this kind of weapon.

                  First, Feinstein is wrong when she says that post-traumatic stress disorder, or PTSD, “is a new phenomenon as a product of the Iraq War.”

                  Combat veterans, crime victims, survivors of natural disasters and others who experienced traumatic events have long suffered from symptoms of what we now know as PTSD. According to the National Institutes of Health, PTSD was officially recognized in 1980 “as a disorder with specific symptoms,” and it was added to the American Psychiatric Association’s Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. A 1990 study found 15 percent of all Vietnam veterans were suffering from PTSD.

                  But Cornyn and others have misrepresented her remarks. After Feinstein spoke, Cornyn had this exchange with the committee chairman, Democratic Sen. Pat Leahy of Vermont.
                  Cornyn, March 7: I think it’s a mistake to paint so broadly as to say that any active duty military or veterans can’t use these kinds of weapons or any other lawful weapons for self-defense, and certainly I wouldn’t want to suggest that we think people who served in the military all suffer from some debilitating illness that would prohibit them from being able to defend themselves.

                  Leahy: That suggestion has not been made by anybody on either side of the aisle here.

                  Leahy is right. Feinstein did not say that “people in the military all suffer from some debilitating illness,” and she did not say that they “can’t use … any other lawful weapons.” She was clearly talking about a subset of veterans (not all of them) and certain guns (assault weapons prohibited under her bill) when she expressed concerns about a gun seller being able to verify that there is “no impairment of that individual with respect to having a weapon like this.” (The emphasis is our own.)

                  Regardless, as The Daily Beast reported three days later, her comments “ignited a firestorm” on the Internet.

                  The Daily Beast, March 10: Not surprisingly, these comments have ignited a firestorm of angry responses that have spread across social media and the conservative and pro-gun blogosphere.

                  On the Constitutional Conservatives website, one post said Feinstein “needs to go to prison over this matter—treason! This woman is despicable … They’re just using PTSD and/or mental illness as an excuse to deny veterans their God-given Second Amendment rights to keep and bear arms.”

                  Conservative website and bloggers twisted her words to suggest she meant ALL vets. One site, mrconservative.com, posted a blog item on March 9 that gave this interpretation of Feinstein’s remarks: “Translation? All vets suffer from PTSD; PTSD makes them crazy; crazy people can’t get guns.” That post was “liked” by more than 59,000 Facebook users.
                  The headline of that post was, “Sen. Feinstein Says All Our Veterans Are Mentally Ill And Can’t Own Guns.” All veterans? All guns? No, that’s not what she said.

                  Feinstein’s concern about the military is not misplaced. It’s well documented that military veterans suffering from PTSD are a danger to themselves and others. The FBI website carries a July 2011 article advising law enforcement how to negotiate with war veterans in crisis situations.

                  In that article, the FBI cites studies that show the increased prevalence of PTSD among military veterans returning from Afghanistan and Iraq.

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                  • Vendzilla
                    Biker Gnome
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 23200

                    #10
                    Originally posted by tony286
                    nope wasnt a lie
                    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_1954912.html

                    "Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) acknowledged on Wednesday that House Republicans had consciously voted to reduce the funds allocated to the State Department for embassy security since winning the majority in 2010."

                    "For the past two years, House Republicans have continued to deprioritize the security forces protecting State Department personnel around the world. In fiscal year 2011, lawmakers shaved $128 million off of the administration's request for embassy security funding. House Republicans drained off even more funds in fiscal year 2012 -- cutting back on the department's request by $331 million."
                    Thanks for proving my point, apparently you can't read, they cut their request, not the spending itself! Democrats cut the request when they were in power, the funds have been going up every year.

                    Oct. 10, 2012 hearing:
                    QUESTION: It has been suggested that budget cuts were responsible for a lack of security in Benghazi. And I'd like to ask Ms. Lamb, you made this decision personally. Was there any budget consideration and lack of budget which led you not to increase the number of people in the security force there?
                    DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF STATE CHARLENE LAMB: No, sir.
                    Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                    think about that

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                    • Rochard
                      Jägermeister Test Pilot
                      • Dec 2001
                      • 75733

                      #11
                      Originally posted by tony286
                      nope wasnt a lie
                      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_1954912.html

                      "Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) acknowledged on Wednesday that House Republicans had consciously voted to reduce the funds allocated to the State Department for embassy security since winning the majority in 2010."

                      "For the past two years, House Republicans have continued to deprioritize the security forces protecting State Department personnel around the world. In fiscal year 2011, lawmakers shaved $128 million off of the administration's request for embassy security funding. House Republicans drained off even more funds in fiscal year 2012 -- cutting back on the department's request by $331 million."
                      Your wrong - nothing in your even mentions Feinstein no less the term "mentally ill".

                      I'm not defending either side, but you are claiming that she did say it, and then link to article that has nothing to do with Feinstein or anything she ever said.
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                      Brooklyn, NY

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                      • crockett
                        in a van by the river
                        • May 2003
                        • 76818

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Vendzilla
                        Thanks for proving my point, apparently you can't read, they cut their request, not the spending itself! Democrats cut the request when they were in power, the funds have been going up every year.

                        Oct. 10, 2012 hearing:
                        QUESTION: It has been suggested that budget cuts were responsible for a lack of security in Benghazi. And I'd like to ask Ms. Lamb, you made this decision personally. Was there any budget consideration and lack of budget which led you not to increase the number of people in the security force there?
                        DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF STATE CHARLENE LAMB: No, sir.
                        It's quite ironic that you believe this "one" fact from the Benghazi investigations but you ignore everything else that says there was no cover ups and that Obama gave no stand downs, ect..ect..

                        It's amazing that you have these wonderful powers of interpretation that allow you to decide what is true and what is false, based on the sole reasoning of if it's good for the the right or is bad for the left.

                        Quite simply amazing I must say again...
                        In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                        • Cherry7
                          Confirmed User
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 3564

                          #13
                          There really is something wrong will people who travel to other lands and murder men women and children on the basis of the most crass and stupid propaganda.
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                          • mopek1
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 3191

                            #14
                            Originally posted by CDSmith
                            Dianne Feinstein: "All vets are mentally ill in some way and government should prevent them from owning firearms."
                            When I read the title I thought it referred to 'Veterinarians' LOL ...

                            I actually would agree more if it were.

                            They over charge people for unnecessary tests on their animals and use guilt and play on people's emotions to take their money.

                            War vets on the other hand, if they are mentally ill is because they went through atrocities we've never imagined and need our help to recover. Otherwise they are just like anyone else in society.

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                            • tony286
                              lurker
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 57021

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Rochard
                              Your wrong - nothing in your even mentions Feinstein no less the term "mentally ill".

                              I'm not defending either side, but you are claiming that she did say it, and then link to article that has nothing to do with Feinstein or anything she ever said.
                              Rochard slowly read the whole post again. I believe in you

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