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  • tony286
    lurker
    • Aug 2002
    • 57021

    #16
    Originally posted by Vendzilla
    Thanks for proving my point, apparently you can't read, they cut their request, not the spending itself! Democrats cut the request when they were in power, the funds have been going up every year.

    Oct. 10, 2012 hearing:
    QUESTION: It has been suggested that budget cuts were responsible for a lack of security in Benghazi. And I'd like to ask Ms. Lamb, you made this decision personally. Was there any budget consideration and lack of budget which led you not to increase the number of people in the security force there?
    DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF STATE CHARLENE LAMB: No, sir.
    I didnt prove your point ,I proved you make shit up. You said the budget cuts were a lie and a republican congressman said they werent.

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    • seeandsee
      Check SIG!
      • Mar 2006
      • 50945

      #17
      what a cunt!
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      • Grapesoda
        So Fucking Banned
        • Jul 2003
        • 46238

        #18
        Originally posted by CDSmith
        Dianne Feinstein: "All vets are mentally ill in some way and government should prevent them from owning firearms."



        Yep, - she really said it on Thursday in a meeting in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee... and the quote below from the LA Times is priceless. Sometimes even the L.A. Times gets it right.



        Kurt Nimmo: "Senator Feinstein insults all U.S. Veterans as she flays about in a vain attempt to save her anti-firearms bill."



        Quote of the Day from the Los Angeles Times:



        "Frankly, I don't know what it is about California, but we seem to have a strange urge to elect really obnoxious women to high office. I'm not bragging, you understand, but no other state, including Maine, even comes close.

        When it comes to sending left-wing dingbats to Washington, we're Number One. There's no getting around the fact that the last time anyone saw the likes of Barbara Boxer, Dianne Feinstein, Maxine Waters, and Nancy Pelosi, they were stirring a cauldron when the curtain went up on 'Macbeth'. The four of them are like jackasses who happen to possess the gift of blab.

        You don't know if you should condemn them for their stupidity or simply marvel at their ability to form words."



        Columnist Burt Prelutsky,

        Los Angeles Times



        Be sure to forward this to all of the "mentally ill" vets you know.

        Especially the ones with guns.
        i.e. lets keep weapons away from people trained to use them

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        • tony286
          lurker
          • Aug 2002
          • 57021

          #19
          Originally posted by tony286
          I didnt prove your point ,I proved you make shit up. You said the budget cuts were a lie and a republican congressman said they werent.
          I had just woken up when I answered this. You dont make shit up but want to believe the most made up shit thats how the gop gets you to vote against your own interests. The GOP has to make up shit because they really have nothing on a center right conservative president. If you look past the bullshit he says and the fox blackula is coming to get you he is center right. I love when you say liberals , wake up besides bernie and liz there are no more.

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          • arock10
            Confirmed User
            • Jan 2006
            • 6217

            #20
            Oh no facts!! We can't have that!
            Sup

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            • slapass
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Nov 2002
              • 14625

              #21
              Originally posted by Cherry7
              There really is something wrong will people who travel to other lands and murder men women and children on the basis of the most crass and stupid propaganda.
              It did occur to me to. Anyone who joins the military might be a bit touched by definition.

              I wasn't able to find news so I skipped answering the first time. It is nice to see it is fake. I think it is odd that the CIA spied on this Senator. You would think even the fucked up GOP would be against that.

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              • PR_Glen
                Confirmed User
                • Oct 2006
                • 9058

                #22
                Originally posted by Cherry7
                There really is something wrong will people who travel to other lands and murder men women and children on the basis of the most crass and stupid propaganda.
                there is something far more wrong with a civilian who actually thinks that is what their military does..
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                • crockett
                  in a van by the river
                  • May 2003
                  • 76818

                  #23
                  Originally posted by seeandsee
                  what a cunt!
                  She didn't say it... How about calling the people whom lied about what was said a cunt?

                  How about reading a bit and trying to do a bit of self investigation, the only reason shit like this goes on, is because most people are too ignorant to check sources for themselves and just willingly believe anything they see in print..
                  Last edited by crockett; 05-16-2014, 05:51 AM.
                  In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                  • Vendzilla
                    Biker Gnome
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 23200

                    #24
                    Originally posted by tony286
                    I had just woken up when I answered this. You dont make shit up but want to believe the most made up shit thats how the gop gets you to vote against your own interests. The GOP has to make up shit because they really have nothing on a center right conservative president. If you look past the bullshit he says and the fox blackula is coming to get you he is center right. I love when you say liberals , wake up besides bernie and liz there are no more.
                    What? That's not what I said!

                    Feinstein said that the GOP cut spending to the embassies, they didn't, they cut the proposed spending! She lied!

                    Where the fuck did I make this up?

                    My own interests? Seriously? Median wages are down, tax collection is at an all time high and everything Obama promised about Obamacare was a lie!
                    Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                    think about that

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                    • Vendzilla
                      Biker Gnome
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 23200

                      #25
                      Originally posted by tony286
                      cutting back on the department's request by $331 million."
                      Yet every year the budget for the embassies go up, they didn't cut the funding, they cut the request, that has always been cut, even when the democrats controlled the house.

                      Feinstein and Boxer both said they cut the budget in a way to make it look like it was the GOP's fault for the Benghazi attack, fuck them!

                      Oct. 10, 2012 hearing:
                      QUESTION: It has been suggested that budget cuts were responsible for a lack of security in Benghazi. And I'd like to ask Ms. Lamb, you made this decision personally. Was there any budget consideration and lack of budget which led you not to increase the number of people in the security force there?
                      DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF STATE CHARLENE LAMB: No, sir.
                      Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                      think about that

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                      • _Richard_
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 30991

                        #26
                        'Senator Feinstein Finally Finds Surveillance To Get Angry About: When It Happened To Her Staffers'

                        http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201...staffers.shtml

                        womans a piece of work

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                        • CDSmith
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • May 2001
                          • 51460

                          #27
                          Originally posted by _Richard_
                          'Senator Feinstein Finally Finds Surveillance To Get Angry About: When It Happened To Her Staffers'

                          http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201...staffers.shtml

                          womans a piece of work
                          Yes, but "let's not let facts get in the way...."

                          Whether she said the original thing about vets or not, what experience or expert insight gives her license to even stick her nose into vets or their rights to own firearms in the first place?

                          Once in a while you actually nail it Richard. This woman is indeed a piece of work. Even if that forwarded email I posted is inaccurate, what the LA times writer published in response to what she DID say would seem to be 100% accurate. I see no one is commenting about that though.
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                          • _Richard_
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 30991

                            #28
                            Originally posted by CDSmith
                            Yes, but "let's not let facts get in the way...."

                            Whether she said the original thing about vets or not, what experience or expert insight gives her license to even stick her nose into vets or their rights to own firearms in the first place?

                            Once in a while you actually nail it Richard. This woman is indeed a piece of work. Even if that forwarded email I posted is inaccurate, what the LA times writer published in response to what she DID say would seem to be 100% accurate. I see no one is commenting about that though.
                            it's not inaccurate, you are reading something that is spun.

                            so because she didn't say the exact words: 'all vets are mentally ill'

                            what she did say with the prevalence of a "new" phenomena known as "PTSD", vets suffering from this disorder (basically all of them) shouldn't own assualt weapons:

                            If I understand this, this [amendment] adds an exemption of retired military. As I understand our bill, no issue has arose [sic] in this regard during the 10 years the expired ban was in effect and what we did in the other bill was exempt possession by the United States or a department or agency of the United States. So that included active military. The problem with expanding this is that, you know, with the advent of PTSD, which I think is a new phenomenon as a product of the Iraq War, it?s not clear how the seller or transferrer of a firearm covered by this bill would verify that an individual was a member, or a veteran, and that there was no impairment of that individual with respect to having a weapon like this. So, you know, I would be happy to sit down with you again and see if we could work something out but I think we have to ? if you?re going to do this, find a way that veterans who are incapacitated for one reason or another mentally don?t have access to this kind of weapon.
                            political..

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                            • deltav
                              Confirmed User
                              • May 2010
                              • 1243

                              #29
                              I don't really give a fuck about Feinstein one way or another, but this shit's getting all sorts of distorted.

                              These committee meetings have somewhat free-flowing conversation and speaking spontaneously you don't always phrase things exactly what was meant. Whatever my political opinions of Feinstein, she wasn't born yesterday, she knows PTSD isn't "new". But with Iraq/Afghanistan there is a currently "new" phenomenon of vets coming home from combat tours many of whom do have serious PTSD issues due to *very recent & raw* trauma. This is a population that didn't exist in say the late 90s before these wars.

                              I know a couple guys back from both places who struggle with that stuff daily. I've also seen people dear to me totally lose their shit because of PTSD from Vietnam or Korea, when a helicopter flew overhead or in one case when a fucking radio broadcast came on during the 1st Iraq war. In those instances, they were completely "back there" mentally, it was really really intense and scary for all involved. When a loved family member is huddled in a supermarket aisle because for all intents & purposes he's back at Chosin with frostbite in his feet and getting shot at by the Chinese and thinks he's going to die, and is screaming at you and everyone else nearby, welp... it's fucked up.

                              People suffering from frequent bouts of that could possibly be restricted from owning firearms. You might disagree with this, but it's a reasonable discussion to have.

                              CDSmith, as for people calling you out on a completely false and misrepresented quote that you chose for the title of your topic, what the hell do you expect? Like I mentioned before, if you wanna argue the merits of what was actually said - sure. But a lot of us couldn't care less about a made-up quote reposted ad nauseum by a bunch of tards, or an opinion column written by the same far-right shill who once wrote an article about how Fox News had too many left-wing commentators and needed to go further right.
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                              • Rochard
                                Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                • Dec 2001
                                • 75733

                                #30
                                Originally posted by tony286
                                Rochard slowly read the whole post again. I believe in you
                                Okay sure. You said:

                                nope wasnt a lie
                                http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_1954912.html

                                "Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) acknowledged on Wednesday that House Republicans had consciously voted to reduce the funds allocated to the State Department for embassy security since winning the majority in 2010."

                                "For the past two years, House Republicans have continued to deprioritize the security forces protecting State Department personnel around the world. In fiscal year 2011, lawmakers shaved $128 million off of the administration's request for embassy security funding. House Republicans drained off even more funds in fiscal year 2012 -- cutting back on the department's request by $331 million."
                                Again, it was a lie - She never said that. And again, the article you pointed to says nothing about Feinstein and nothing about vets being mentally ill.
                                Herschel Savage
                                Brooklyn, NY

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