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just a punk · 03-08-2014, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MrDeiz

revolution isn't over before we the people approve the whole government.

LOL ))) Да кто тебя спросит? На смеши мои тапочки. Все давно уже решено. Президентом будет Юля. Премьером назначат кого-то из тех же клоунов, типа Яценюка. Нашел, блин, интригу

evy97 · 03-08-2014, 07:46 AM

This supporter of the Ukraine joining the EU has received her reward: a 50% cut in her pension.

Next:

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The austerity plan will cut social services, funds for education, layoff government workers, devalue the currency, thus raising the prices of imports which include Russian gas, thus electricity, and open Ukrainian assets to takeover by Western corporations.

directfiesta · 03-08-2014, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by evy97

This supporter of the Ukraine joining the EU has received her reward: a 50% cut in her pension.

Next:

any links to this ... or is it an opinion?

FetishBar · 03-08-2014, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

any links to this ... or is it an opinion?

google - Austerity and IMF "Economic Medicine": The Looting Of Ukraine Has Begun

directfiesta · 03-08-2014, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by FetishBar

google - Austerity and IMF "Economic Medicine": The Looting Of Ukraine Has Begun

sure... why not

poster made a claim ... up to him to back it up ... or maybe we are back to the false rethoric of " prove me you don't have them " ...

FetishBar · 03-08-2014, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

sure... why not

poster made a claim ... up to him to back it up ... or maybe we are back to the false rethoric of " prove me you don't have them " ...

too lazy? or just don't care? it is on the web already

FetishBar · 03-08-2014, 10:11 AM

Article below is from Global Research CA by Paul Craig Roberts( former Assistant Secretary of the US Treasury and Associate Editor of the Wall Street Journal, has held numerous university appointments. He is a frequent contributor to Global Research):

According to a report in Kommersant-Ukraine, the finance ministry of Washington’s stooges in Kiev who are pretending to be a government has prepared an economic austerity plan that will cut Ukrainian pensions from $160 to $80 so that Western bankers who lent money to Ukraine can be repaid at the expense of Ukraine’s poor. It is Greece all over again.

Before anything approaching stability and legitimacy has been obtained for the puppet government put in power by the Washington orchestrated coup against the legitimate, elected Ukraine government, the Western looters are already at work. Naive protesters who believed the propaganda that EU membership offered a better life are due to lose half of their pension by April. But this is only the beginning.

The corrupt Western media describes loans as “aid.” However, the 11 billion euros that

the EU is offering Kiev is not aid. It is a loan. Moreover, it comes with many strings, including Kiev’s acceptance of an IMF austerity plan.

Remember now, gullible Ukrainians participated in the protests that were used to overthrow their elected government, because they believed the lies told to them by Washington-financed NGOs that once they joined the EU they would have streets paved with gold. Instead they are getting cuts in their pensions and an IMF austerity plan.

The austerity plan will cut social services, funds for education, layoff government workers, devalue the currency, thus raising the prices of imports which include Russian gas, thus electricity, and open Ukrainian assets to takeover by Western corporations.

Ukraine’s agriculture lands will pass into the hands of American agribusiness.

One part of the Washington/EU plan for Ukraine, or that part of Ukraine that doesn’t defect to Russia, has succeeded. What remains of the country will be thoroughly looted by the West.

The other part hasn’t worked as well. Washington’s Ukrainian stooges lost control of the protests to organized and armed ultra-nationalists. These groups, whose roots go back to those who fought for Hitler during World War 2, engaged in words and deeds that sent southern and eastern Ukraine clamoring to be returned to Russia where they resided prior to the 1950s when the Soviet communist party stuck them into Ukraine.

At this time of writing it looks like Crimea has seceded from Ukraine. Washington and its NATO puppets can do nothing but bluster and threaten sanctions. The White House Fool has demonstrated the impotence of the “US sole superpower” by issuing sanctions against unknown persons, whoever they are, responsible for returning Crimea to Russia, where it existed for about 200 years before, according to Solzhenitsyn, a drunk Khrushchev of Ukrainian ethnicity moved southern and eastern Russian provinces into Ukraine. Having observed the events in western Ukraine, those Russian provinces want to go back home where they belong, just as South Ossetia wanted nothing to do with Georgia.

Washington’s stooges in Kiev can do nothing about Crimea except bluster. Under the Russian-Ukraine agreement, Russia is permitted 25,000 troops in Crimea. The US/EU media’s deploring of a “Russian invasion of 16,000 troops” is either total ignorance or complicity in Washington’s lies. Obviously, the US/EU media is corrupt. Only a fool would rely on their reports. Any media that would believe anything Washington says after George W. Bush and Dick Cheney sent Secretary of State Colin Powell to the UN to peddle the regime’s lies about “Iraqi weapons of mass destruction,” which the weapons inspectors had told the White House did not exist, is clearly a collection of bought-and-paid for whores.

In the former Russian provinces of eastern, Ukraine Putin’s low-key approach to the strategic threat that Washington has brought to Russia has given Washington a chance to hold on to a major industrial complex that serves the Russian economy and military. The people themselves in eastern Ukraine are in the streets demanding separation from the unelected government that Washington’s coup has imposed in Kiev. Washington, realizing that its incompetence has lost Crimea, had its Kiev stooges appoint Ukrainian oligarchs, against whom the Maiden protests were partly directed, to governing positions in eastern Ukraine cities. These oligarchs have their own private militias in addition to the police and any Ukrainian military units that are still functioning. The leaders of the protesting Russians are being arrested and disappeared. Washington and its EU puppets, who proclaim their support for self-determination, are only for self-determination when it can be orchestrated in their favor. Therefore, Washington is busy at work suppressing self-determination in eastern Ukraine.

This is a dilemma for Putin. His low-key approach has allowed Washington to seize the initiative in eastern Ukraine. The oligarchs Taruta and Kolomoyskiy have been put in power in Donetsk and Dnipropetrovsk, and are carrying out arrests of Russians and committing unspeakable crimes, but you will never hear of it from the US presstitutes. Washington’s strategy is to arrest and deep-six the leaders of the secessionists so that there no authorities to request Putin’s intervention.

If Putin has drones, he has the option of taking out Taruta and Kolomoyskiy. If Putin lets Washington retain the Russian provinces of eastern Ukraine, he will have demonstrated a weakness that Washington will exploit. Washington will exploit the weakness to the point that Washington forces Putin to war.

The war will be nuclear.

CAHEK · 03-08-2014, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evy97

This supporter of the Ukraine joining the EU has received her reward: a 50% cut in her pension.

Next:

That's True. Unemployment will rise over the years. Giving money to country doesn't solve shit. Most of this money will go to corrupt people and people will be left with nothing.

Greece Situation

Triple-A · 03-08-2014, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FetishBar

Article below is from Global Research CA by Paul Craig Roberts( former Assistant Secretary of the US Treasury and Associate Editor of the Wall Street Journal, has held numerous university appointments. He is a frequent contributor to Global Research):

According to a report in Kommersant-Ukraine, the finance ministry of Washington?s stooges in Kiev who are pretending to be a government has prepared an economic austerity plan that will cut Ukrainian pensions from $160 to $80 so that Western bankers who lent money to Ukraine can be repaid at the expense of Ukraine?s poor. It is Greece all over again.

Before anything approaching stability and legitimacy has been obtained for the puppet government put in power by the Washington orchestrated coup against the legitimate, elected Ukraine government, the Western looters are already at work. Naive protesters who believed the propaganda that EU membership offered a better life are due to lose half of their pension by April. But this is only the beginning.

The corrupt Western media describes loans as ?aid.? However, the 11 billion euros that

the EU is offering Kiev is not aid. It is a loan. Moreover, it comes with many strings, including Kiev?s acceptance of an IMF austerity plan.

Remember now, gullible Ukrainians participated in the protests that were used to overthrow their elected government, because they believed the lies told to them by Washington-financed NGOs that once they joined the EU they would have streets paved with gold. Instead they are getting cuts in their pensions and an IMF austerity plan.

The austerity plan will cut social services, funds for education, layoff government workers, devalue the currency, thus raising the prices of imports which include Russian gas, thus electricity, and open Ukrainian assets to takeover by Western corporations.

Ukraine?s agriculture lands will pass into the hands of American agribusiness.

One part of the Washington/EU plan for Ukraine, or that part of Ukraine that doesn?t defect to Russia, has succeeded. What remains of the country will be thoroughly looted by the West.

The other part hasn?t worked as well. Washington?s Ukrainian stooges lost control of the protests to organized and armed ultra-nationalists. These groups, whose roots go back to those who fought for Hitler during World War 2, engaged in words and deeds that sent southern and eastern Ukraine clamoring to be returned to Russia where they resided prior to the 1950s when the Soviet communist party stuck them into Ukraine.

At this time of writing it looks like Crimea has seceded from Ukraine. Washington and its NATO puppets can do nothing but bluster and threaten sanctions. The White House Fool has demonstrated the impotence of the ?US sole superpower? by issuing sanctions against unknown persons, whoever they are, responsible for returning Crimea to Russia, where it existed for about 200 years before, according to Solzhenitsyn, a drunk Khrushchev of Ukrainian ethnicity moved southern and eastern Russian provinces into Ukraine. Having observed the events in western Ukraine, those Russian provinces want to go back home where they belong, just as South Ossetia wanted nothing to do with Georgia.

Washington?s stooges in Kiev can do nothing about Crimea except bluster. Under the Russian-Ukraine agreement, Russia is permitted 25,000 troops in Crimea. The US/EU media?s deploring of a ?Russian invasion of 16,000 troops? is either total ignorance or complicity in Washington?s lies. Obviously, the US/EU media is corrupt. Only a fool would rely on their reports. Any media that would believe anything Washington says after George W. Bush and Dick Cheney sent Secretary of State Colin Powell to the UN to peddle the regime?s lies about ?Iraqi weapons of mass destruction,? which the weapons inspectors had told the White House did not exist, is clearly a collection of bought-and-paid for whores.

In the former Russian provinces of eastern, Ukraine Putin?s low-key approach to the strategic threat that Washington has brought to Russia has given Washington a chance to hold on to a major industrial complex that serves the Russian economy and military. The people themselves in eastern Ukraine are in the streets demanding separation from the unelected government that Washington?s coup has imposed in Kiev. Washington, realizing that its incompetence has lost Crimea, had its Kiev stooges appoint Ukrainian oligarchs, against whom the Maiden protests were partly directed, to governing positions in eastern Ukraine cities. These oligarchs have their own private militias in addition to the police and any Ukrainian military units that are still functioning. The leaders of the protesting Russians are being arrested and disappeared. Washington and its EU puppets, who proclaim their support for self-determination, are only for self-determination when it can be orchestrated in their favor. Therefore, Washington is busy at work suppressing self-determination in eastern Ukraine.

This is a dilemma for Putin. His low-key approach has allowed Washington to seize the initiative in eastern Ukraine. The oligarchs Taruta and Kolomoyskiy have been put in power in Donetsk and Dnipropetrovsk, and are carrying out arrests of Russians and committing unspeakable crimes, but you will never hear of it from the US presstitutes. Washington?s strategy is to arrest and deep-six the leaders of the secessionists so that there no authorities to request Putin?s intervention.

If Putin has drones, he has the option of taking out Taruta and Kolomoyskiy. If Putin lets Washington retain the Russian provinces of eastern Ukraine, he will have demonstrated a weakness that Washington will exploit. Washington will exploit the weakness to the point that Washington forces Putin to war.

The war will be nuclear.

Yawn. You believe this shit?

The Porn Nerd · 03-08-2014, 11:36 AM

So does all this shit mean I can now fuck desperate, gorgeous Ukranian girls eager for a better life in the US?
Line 'em up baby!!

FetishBar · 03-08-2014, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Triple-A

Yawn. You believe this shit?

Well...Why this can't be true? Do you think USA and EU are going to help Ukraine because they have too much money? Or because they really care about ukrainian people?

(The source is: http://www.globalresearch.ca/austeri...-begun/5372274)

FetishBar · 03-08-2014, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

So does all this shit mean I can now fuck desperate, gorgeous Ukranian girls eager for a better life in the US?
Line 'em up baby!!

What do you think Kerry is doing right now

Triple-A · 03-08-2014, 11:46 AM

I don't want Ukraine as part of the EU at all, it is far from ready, I didn't want Romania and Bulgaria to be full members, they are not ready either but was forced on us. I am past caring about the expansionist plans of a deluded and unelected bureaucratic bloated EU... we Brits see through this bullshit.

To be honest, this is just sad, I understand the Russians have a point, these areas/countries have been close but under Soviet times populations were moved around so the Crimea has a large number of Russian speakers. I'd just give Crimea some form of regional autonomy like we have for Wales, N Ireland and Scotland... or any of the 50 states in America... to govern themselves locally... but this is Ukraine and Russia, the top officials would be corrupt as hell.

as for nuclear war

just a punk · 03-08-2014, 11:48 AM

While you, keyboard warriors were fighting for the "freedom of the Ukraine", I betrayed Putin and spent a few hundreds bucks in one of the Ukrainian restaurants:

FetishBar · 03-08-2014, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple-A

I don't want Ukraine as part of the EU at all, it is far from ready, I didn't want Romania and Bulgaria to be full members, they are not ready either but was forced on us. I am past caring about the expansionist plans of a deluded and unelected bureaucratic bloated EU... we Brits see through this bullshit.

To be honest, this is just sad, I understand the Russians have a point, these areas/countries have been close but under Soviet times populations were moved around so the Crimea has a large number of Russian speakers. I'd just give Crimea some form of regional autonomy like we have for Wales, N Ireland and Scotland... or any of the 50 states in America... to govern themselves locally... but this is Ukraine and Russia, the top officials would be corrupt as hell.

as for nuclear war

It is already The Autonomous Republic of Crimea - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimea

just a punk · 03-08-2014, 12:16 PM

Aboriginal Crimeans are for union with Russia:

CAHEK · 03-08-2014, 01:28 PM

Sid70 · 03-08-2014, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberseo

while you, keyboard warriors were fighting for the "freedom of the ukraine", i betrayed putin and spent a few hundreds bucks in one of the ukrainian restaurants:

Срал потом 2 дня? Что за забегаловка, пиздец, ужоснах и удар по печени.

Kolargol · 03-08-2014, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CAHEK

That's True. Unemployment will rise over the years. Giving money to country doesn't solve shit. Most of this money will go to corrupt people and people will be left with nothing.

Greece Situation

Most of it was already stolen by Yanukovich who was and is supported by Russia.

Kolargol · 03-08-2014, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FetishBar

Well...Why this can't be true? Do you think USA and EU are going to help Ukraine because they have too much money? Or because they really care about ukrainian people?

(The source is: http://www.globalresearch.ca/austeri...-begun/5372274)

Maybe just because they want a quiet, peaceful country by the border instead of messy one?

WDF · 03-08-2014, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

any links to this ... or is it an opinion?

Propaganda Machine at Work!!!!!!!

pornmasta · 03-08-2014, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Aboriginal Crimeans are for union with Russia:

lol 8 char

pornmasta · 03-08-2014, 05:50 PM

so make your choice:
mafia and FSB dictatorship or bank exploitation ?

Hmm, it's hard to answer...

just a punk · 03-09-2014, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by sid70

Срал потом 2 дня? Что за забегаловка, пиздец, ужоснах и удар по печени.

У меня с печенью все в порядке (кстати, это единственный орган который полностью саморегенерируется). А чем тебе западнороссийская (украинская) кухня не нравится? Борщ, вареники, жареная телятина с отварной картошечкой и лучком, водочка на хрене с медом, закуски разные - ну сало там, грибочки всякие, соления, язычок и буженинка с горчицей и хреном. Разве не ляпота? И ровно $375 (это ежели по новому курсу считать) на четыре персоны. Imho очень даже вкусно и демократичненько.

just a punk · 03-09-2014, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Kolargol

Most of it was already stolen by Yanukovich who was and is supported by Russia.

Another clueless post form you? Why I'm not surprised?

))

Yanukovich was not actually supported by Russia. Yulia Timoshenkow was, and she got a prison time on Ukraine for her deal with Putin.

Perhaps you have to stop posting to this thread, because you look like a clown

just a punk · 03-09-2014, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by pornmasta

or bank exploitation ?

That's also mafia, BTW. As about FSB, it role is too overpriced by the western media. In fact it's as corrupted and rotten as police and other government services here. It's not even comparable with Soviet KGB

just a punk · 03-09-2014, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70

Что за забегаловка

Извини, что сразу пропустил этот вопрос. Вот: http://www.tarasbulba.ru/. Будешь в наших палестинах - заходи, вкусно и недорого (родину вспомнишь, ибо там весь обслуживающий персонал с Украины и даже меню на вашей мове)

klinton · 03-09-2014, 02:39 AM

you overpayed and it is so sad that you even proud of it

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

While you, keyboard warriors were fighting for the "freedom of the Ukraine", I betrayed Putin and spent a few hundreds bucks in one of the Ukrainian restaurants:

just a punk · 03-09-2014, 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton

you overpayed

No i didn't. That's less than $100 for a person (a lot of good organic food + alcohol). That's really cheap for Moscow - just believe me.

CAHEK · 03-09-2014, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kolargol

Most of it was already stolen by Yanukovich who was and is supported by Russia.

Let Me Rephrase That

Most of it was already stolen FROM Yanukovich

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/2-m...ion-2014-03-03

Sid70 · 03-09-2014, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FetishBar

Article below is from Global Research CA by Paul Craig Roberts( former Assistant Secretary of the US Treasury and Associate Editor of the Wall Street Journal, has held numerous university appointments. He is a frequent contributor to Global Research):

According to a report in Kommersant-Ukraine, the finance ministry of Washington?s stooges in Kiev who are pretending to be a government has prepared an economic austerity plan that will cut Ukrainian pensions from $160 to $80 so that Western bankers who lent money to Ukraine can be repaid at the expense of Ukraine?s poor. It is Greece all over again.

Before anything approaching stability and legitimacy has been obtained for the puppet government put in power by the Washington orchestrated coup against the legitimate, elected Ukraine government, the Western looters are already at work. Naive protesters who believed the propaganda that EU membership offered a better life are due to lose half of their pension by April. But this is only the beginning.

The corrupt Western media describes loans as ?aid.? However, the 11 billion euros that

the EU is offering Kiev is not aid. It is a loan. Moreover, it comes with many strings, including Kiev?s acceptance of an IMF austerity plan...

I won't read any more of this BS.
The initial understanding of Maidan was failed here.

Sid70 · 03-09-2014, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberseo

У меня с печенью все в порядке (кстати, это единственный орган который полностью саморегенерируется). А чем тебе западнороссийская (украинская) кухня не нравится? Борщ, вареники, жареная телятина с отварной картошечкой и лучком, водочка на хрене с медом, закуски разные - ну сало там, грибочки всякие, соления, язычок и буженинка с горчицей и хреном. Разве не ляпота? И ровно $375 (это ежели по новому курсу считать) на четыре персоны. Imho очень даже вкусно и демократичненько.

Это ты отряд самообороны накормил?

Sid70 · 03-09-2014, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberseo

Извини, что сразу пропустил этот вопрос. Вот: http://www.tarasbulba.ru/. Будешь в наших палестинах - заходи, вкусно и недорого (родину вспомнишь, ибо там весь обслуживающий персонал с Украины и даже меню на вашей мове)

Спасибо, конечно, но я даже предложение Лебедева отклонил.
С борщом у мну все схвачено, а с языком у меня проблем нет,
в отличии от ебланов на востоке хохлобана.

Я посмотрел эти демонстрации в крыму и на востоке и подумал, да идите
вы нахуй, если так можно избежать ядерной катастрофы, то начинайте колышки ставить. Так или иначе там пиздец народ.

Manfap · 03-09-2014, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAHEK

That's True. Unemployment will rise over the years. Giving money to country doesn't solve shit. Most of this money will go to corrupt people and people will be left with nothing.

Greece Situation

Greece was based on dodgy accounting for years before the euro though.

Kolargol · 03-09-2014, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Another clueless post form you? Why I'm not surprised?

))

Yanukovich was not actually supported by Russia. Yulia Timoshenkow was, and she got a prison time on Ukraine for her deal with Putin.

Perhaps you have to stop posting to this thread, because you look like a clown

Sure, that's why Putin got so mad after Yanukovich was kicked out that he invaded Ukraine. Also, he doesn't care for Yanukovich so he gave him asylum in Russia. Also, he doesn't care for Yanukovich so Lavrov keeps saying that Yanukovich is the president and should return to his office.

Also, don't get too emotional...

wehateporn · 03-09-2014, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

So does all this shit mean I can now fuck desperate, gorgeous Ukranian girls eager for a better life in the US?
Line 'em up baby!!

Yes, they will be very poor

pornmasta · 03-09-2014, 08:15 PM

Anyway, when you have too much debt you send henchmen and there is no more debt...

snuff said

just a punk · 03-10-2014, 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sid70

Я посмотрел эти демонстрации в крыму и на востоке и подумал, да идите вы нахуй, если так можно избежать ядерной катастрофы, то начинайте колышки ставить. Так или иначе там пиздец народ.

Ты думаешь, что нам тут сильно нужен Крым? Я понимаю, что он всегда был частью российской территории, но за 22 года многое изменилось. Там сейчас нищета и разруха полная. Татары местные опять же. Кормить всех этих голодранцев за свой счет мне совершенно не хочется (нафига нам вторая Чечня?) В общем, если Крым уйдет в глухую автономию или будет присоединен к России - это не по моей воле. Вова сам решает, что ему делать и со мной он не советуется.

З.Ы. Но заметь, как только собрались все эти безработные швондеры и шариковы на Майдане, я сразу сказал, что все это кончится очень плохо. В первую очередь, плохо для самой Украины, которая, скорее всего, потеряет часть своей территории. Говорил же ведь, согласись. И это при том, что я на смотрю российских "новостей" по зомбоящику, ибо всегда считал их говном и пропагандой (такое же мнение у меня о CNN, Fox, BBC и т.д.)

just a punk · 03-10-2014, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kolargol

Sure, that's why Putin got so mad after Yanukovich was kicked out that he invaded Ukraine.

Putin was mad?

Are you crazy, man? He's having a lot of fun with the situation on Ukraine. Furthermore, now he has a real chance to cut off a big territory from Ukraine. Yanukovich was always considered as a dead cow by Russian government (everyone including the prime minister were calling him a criminal, thief, looser etc). You have no idea on what is happening in Russia and you look like a clown again

Sid70 · 03-10-2014, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberseo

Ты думаешь, что нам тут сильно нужен Крым? Я понимаю, что он всегда был частью российской территории, но за 22 года многое изменилось. Там сейчас нищета и разруха полная. Татары местные опять же. Кормить всех этих голодранцев за свой счет мне совершенно не хочется (нафига нам вторая Чечня?) В общем, если Крым уйдет в глухую автономию или будет присоединен к России - это не по моей воле. Вова сам решает, что ему делать и со мной он не советуется.

З.Ы. Но заметь, как только собрались все эти безработные швондеры и шариковы на Майдане, я сразу сказал, что все это кончится очень плохо. В первую очередь, плохо для самой Украины, которая, скорее всего, потеряет часть своей территории. Говорил же ведь, согласись. И это при том, что я на смотрю российских "новостей" по зомбоящику, ибо всегда считал их говном и пропагандой (такое же мнение у меня о cnn, fox, bbc и т.д.)

Не знаю плохо ли это, хоть часть населения будет иметь надежду, интеллигенция поддерживает Майдан.

just a punk · 03-11-2014, 01:02 AM

Так изначально Майдан и был организован интеллигенцией. И требования у них были правильными. Если ты вдруг забыл, то Янкуович пошел на все уступки, которые выдвинул Майдан. Я тебе больше скажу. Тогда я вполне открыто симпатизировал этим людям. Но позже пришли фашисты из УПА и "Свободы", которым было насрать на все подписанные договоры. Им нужна была движуха, драйв и кровь. Кровь, которой они, по ходу, до сих пор так и не напились.

Antonio · 03-11-2014, 01:28 AM

If Oberfuhrer Putin starts annexing territories, where he's going to stop at? There are plenty of Russians in Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia

ZiggiZiggiCrew · 03-11-2014, 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antonio

If Oberfuhrer Putin starts annexing territories, where he's going to stop at? There are plenty of Russians in Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia

lives in London 200000 Russian

волнуюсь за MrDeiz...3-й день подряд не создает ни одного говнотопика про захват Нэньки темнейшим. Неужели все же забрали в маленькую психиатрическую больничку? Или подрочил и попустило?

03-08-2014, 11:36 AM	#510
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03-08-2014, 11:46 AM	#513
Triple-A Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Hartford CT Posts: 535	I don't want Ukraine as part of the EU at all, it is far from ready, I didn't want Romania and Bulgaria to be full members, they are not ready either but was forced on us. I am past caring about the expansionist plans of a deluded and unelected bureaucratic bloated EU... we Brits see through this bullshit. To be honest, this is just sad, I understand the Russians have a point, these areas/countries have been close but under Soviet times populations were moved around so the Crimea has a large number of Russian speakers. I'd just give Crimea some form of regional autonomy like we have for Wales, N Ireland and Scotland... or any of the 50 states in America... to govern themselves locally... but this is Ukraine and Russia, the top officials would be corrupt as hell. as for nuclear war __________________ Triple A Spanking - AAAspanking Affiliate Program Contact me if you want to help promote our niche

03-08-2014, 11:48 AM	#514
just a punk So fuckin' bored Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 32,384	While you, keyboard warriors were fighting for the "freedom of the Ukraine", I betrayed Putin and spent a few hundreds bucks in one of the Ukrainian restaurants: __________________ Obey the Cowgod

03-08-2014, 12:16 PM	#516
just a punk So fuckin' bored Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 32,384	Aboriginal Crimeans are for union with Russia: __________________ Obey the Cowgod

03-08-2014, 01:28 PM	#517
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03-08-2014, 10:11 AM	#507
FetishBar Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Zambezia Posts: 48	Article below is from Global Research CA by Paul Craig Roberts( former Assistant Secretary of the US Treasury and Associate Editor of the Wall Street Journal, has held numerous university appointments. He is a frequent contributor to Global Research): According to a report in Kommersant-Ukraine, the finance ministry of Washington’s stooges in Kiev who are pretending to be a government has prepared an economic austerity plan that will cut Ukrainian pensions from $160 to $80 so that Western bankers who lent money to Ukraine can be repaid at the expense of Ukraine’s poor. It is Greece all over again. Before anything approaching stability and legitimacy has been obtained for the puppet government put in power by the Washington orchestrated coup against the legitimate, elected Ukraine government, the Western looters are already at work. Naive protesters who believed the propaganda that EU membership offered a better life are due to lose half of their pension by April. But this is only the beginning. The corrupt Western media describes loans as “aid.” However, the 11 billion euros that the EU is offering Kiev is not aid. It is a loan. Moreover, it comes with many strings, including Kiev’s acceptance of an IMF austerity plan. Remember now, gullible Ukrainians participated in the protests that were used to overthrow their elected government, because they believed the lies told to them by Washington-financed NGOs that once they joined the EU they would have streets paved with gold. Instead they are getting cuts in their pensions and an IMF austerity plan. The austerity plan will cut social services, funds for education, layoff government workers, devalue the currency, thus raising the prices of imports which include Russian gas, thus electricity, and open Ukrainian assets to takeover by Western corporations. Ukraine’s agriculture lands will pass into the hands of American agribusiness. One part of the Washington/EU plan for Ukraine, or that part of Ukraine that doesn’t defect to Russia, has succeeded. What remains of the country will be thoroughly looted by the West. The other part hasn’t worked as well. Washington’s Ukrainian stooges lost control of the protests to organized and armed ultra-nationalists. These groups, whose roots go back to those who fought for Hitler during World War 2, engaged in words and deeds that sent southern and eastern Ukraine clamoring to be returned to Russia where they resided prior to the 1950s when the Soviet communist party stuck them into Ukraine. At this time of writing it looks like Crimea has seceded from Ukraine. Washington and its NATO puppets can do nothing but bluster and threaten sanctions. The White House Fool has demonstrated the impotence of the “US sole superpower” by issuing sanctions against unknown persons, whoever they are, responsible for returning Crimea to Russia, where it existed for about 200 years before, according to Solzhenitsyn, a drunk Khrushchev of Ukrainian ethnicity moved southern and eastern Russian provinces into Ukraine. Having observed the events in western Ukraine, those Russian provinces want to go back home where they belong, just as South Ossetia wanted nothing to do with Georgia. Washington’s stooges in Kiev can do nothing about Crimea except bluster. Under the Russian-Ukraine agreement, Russia is permitted 25,000 troops in Crimea. The US/EU media’s deploring of a “Russian invasion of 16,000 troops” is either total ignorance or complicity in Washington’s lies. Obviously, the US/EU media is corrupt. Only a fool would rely on their reports. Any media that would believe anything Washington says after George W. Bush and Dick Cheney sent Secretary of State Colin Powell to the UN to peddle the regime’s lies about “Iraqi weapons of mass destruction,” which the weapons inspectors had told the White House did not exist, is clearly a collection of bought-and-paid for whores. In the former Russian provinces of eastern, Ukraine Putin’s low-key approach to the strategic threat that Washington has brought to Russia has given Washington a chance to hold on to a major industrial complex that serves the Russian economy and military. The people themselves in eastern Ukraine are in the streets demanding separation from the unelected government that Washington’s coup has imposed in Kiev. Washington, realizing that its incompetence has lost Crimea, had its Kiev stooges appoint Ukrainian oligarchs, against whom the Maiden protests were partly directed, to governing positions in eastern Ukraine cities. These oligarchs have their own private militias in addition to the police and any Ukrainian military units that are still functioning. The leaders of the protesting Russians are being arrested and disappeared. Washington and its EU puppets, who proclaim their support for self-determination, are only for self-determination when it can be orchestrated in their favor. Therefore, Washington is busy at work suppressing self-determination in eastern Ukraine. This is a dilemma for Putin. His low-key approach has allowed Washington to seize the initiative in eastern Ukraine. The oligarchs Taruta and Kolomoyskiy have been put in power in Donetsk and Dnipropetrovsk, and are carrying out arrests of Russians and committing unspeakable crimes, but you will never hear of it from the US presstitutes. Washington’s strategy is to arrest and deep-six the leaders of the secessionists so that there no authorities to request Putin’s intervention. If Putin has drones, he has the option of taking out Taruta and Kolomoyskiy. If Putin lets Washington retain the Russian provinces of eastern Ukraine, he will have demonstrated a weakness that Washington will exploit. Washington will exploit the weakness to the point that Washington forces Putin to war. The war will be nuclear.

03-08-2014, 05:50 PM	#523
pornmasta Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 19,178	so make your choice: mafia and FSB dictatorship or bank exploitation ? Hmm, it's hard to answer...

03-09-2014, 08:15 PM	#537
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03-11-2014, 01:02 AM	#541
just a punk So fuckin' bored Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 32,384	Так изначально Майдан и был организован интеллигенцией. И требования у них были правильными. Если ты вдруг забыл, то Янкуович пошел на все уступки, которые выдвинул Майдан. Я тебе больше скажу. Тогда я вполне открыто симпатизировал этим людям. Но позже пришли фашисты из УПА и "Свободы", которым было насрать на все подписанные договоры. Им нужна была движуха, драйв и кровь. Кровь, которой они, по ходу, до сих пор так и не напились. __________________ Obey the Cowgod Last edited by just a punk; 03-11-2014 at 01:03 AM..

03-11-2014, 01:28 AM	#542
Antonio Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Spartaaaaaaaaa Posts: 14,136	If Oberfuhrer Putin starts annexing territories, where he's going to stop at? There are plenty of Russians in Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia