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Old 11-28-2013, 10:06 PM   #201
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Old 11-29-2013, 04:27 AM   #202
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I don't have numbers in front of me, but I'd wager that overall,,Americans donate to Americans in need by a large margin over what get sent to disasters around the world.

I know we do. We have a budget in our company for local charity. It's a long list. Some of the things we support are only for a few hundred dollars. Others are more. It's always easy to rip on business. But when the food pantry is broke. Who steps up and funds it? A child went missing in Milwaukee. A local bank put up the money for a reward. In my community the city purchased some vacant land on the lake. They decided it would be a nice green space. Who came up with the money to build a playground for the kids. My company and a local hospital partnered and did the whole project.

I don't know a single business owner in my group that doesn't support many things. When there is a disaster around the world, we just dig a little deeper. Just like most Americans do.

Some banks and business have done bad things ,but more of them do a lot of good things for the community.


Well, it sure is good to know that some of that kind of thing is still alive in this country. I guess I get a little cynical sometimes. I don't have a large circle or social network but almost all of what I see (especially around here) is good for nothing spoon fed talent lacking little goons running around without anything to worry about. Maybe I was being a bit short sighted.

That said- I still don't like the "taxpayers" (you count too even if you are wealthy) having to give FORCED donations to every country and any country time and time and time again via stolen money the government goes off spending as if they're in the same frame of mind as a drug addled whore

It can be easy to blame wealthy rich fucks from down here, at times. I stay on my own ass to not do that. I stay on my ass to keep that chip off of my shoulder. I've never allowed myself much jealousy or envy and don't have much of either in my nature in the first place- but I sure do get sick of seeing so much injustice.

My cousin is a good example. Genius made my grandmother give to him the only asset she had. He drives around in lexus and mercedes AND a big new truck AND a new convertible. He hasn't seen her ten times in as many years. When she gets hungry or needs something or is fighting with her daughter, who has to help? Me

So I guess I get a little frustrated at times. I DO know that the slant IS there- when I'm white and poor the "real whites" (like you) treat me like I have "the aids". There's no doors that will open that I don't kick open. That's fine, but mohammed down the way had 10 doors open and he's owning a chain now... tommy chong a few blocks away, same thing... good ol' boy bill with IQ of 63 owns a business he's crashed four times and all he has to do is drink and curse and act stupid in his life..... and on and on and on

Definitely need to get out of this part of the counrty. It is so ass backwards and negative, it will kill your soul for you. I definitely learned to spend my time focusing on goals and solutions rather than being so annoyed by injustices. I use to CARE how our government spent tax money I use to CARE that these good ol' boys cockblock me I use to CARE how difficult business can be in America when you don't "know some people" or when you're not "accepted" ... .

Now I CARE what I can DO ABOUT MAKING SOMETHING HAPPEN every day. THAT is my focus. I think that is what I was trying to get across to opie, really, focus on what he wishes or wants for someone else to do with their money and he'll never get anywhere.

The only reason I am going to make it is because I realized, fine, no matter what I did for everyone in the past, fuck me I am fucked. No one is going to fuck with me, period, if I could sell them gold bars for $6, no one will fuck with me no matter what I do. Got it. I have to do it 100% myself no matter what because fuck me I am fucked.

So I don't focus on my cousin in his fancy cars or how unfair it is that he took my grandmothers 200k asset while I've been giving her half my life on and off over the years. I have the strokes she causes. I deal with the frustration. I feed her when she is hungry.

But the focus stays now on MOVING FORWARD. It's not on how unfair anything is or how it'd be better if I could get what I DESERVE. It's about MAKING THINGS HAPPEN. GOOD THINGS.


I'm just ranting
I almost deleted this whole thing
I'm going to post this now but disregard it I think I'm just writing it down for me to help get my brain sorted out (ALL THOSE COBWEBS - LoL)
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Old 11-29-2013, 04:30 AM   #203
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The US has dropped more bombs than hitler since WW2, has held 100-s of millions of people under decades upon decades of debilitating economic sanctions, impoverishing entire regions and races for the actions of a few people.

The "aid" you do give is actually bribe..."US Aid" in my country for example built a road to a local politicians moms hose in the mountains

I have nothing against americans I really dont, just dont claim your country helps anybody...its ridiculous...

We give and give and give and give
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Old 11-29-2013, 04:33 AM   #204
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Good point.. right after I have breakfast I am loading up my plane with some sweet surplus bombs and heading north to Canada to have some fun!
Good news for you crucifissio..I am going to be in Europe in a couple of weeks. If you see a white citation with gold trim flying over, be sure to duck. I love the smell of napalm in the morning!!

My ex worked for Cessna.. if you bought a Citation I can imagine that you may very well have met her.... She had all kinds of cool little models like this one



I just noticed I still have a cessna key fob thing on my keyring too

Cessna sounds like a pretty neat company to work for

You put gold trim on an airplane? You may not be as white as I thought you were...
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Old 11-29-2013, 04:35 AM   #205
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Keep it real. If there weren't such a huge global market for war toys, they wouldn't exist.
All it takes is one saddam Hussein in the neighborhood.

A little history on one of your fine local leaders.
Slobodan Milosevic Kill tally: Up to 230,000 killed and three million displaced

This is very true.. they even show on American television all of these "world leader" type of fools who are going to some expo like event to buy all kinds of missles and bombs and tanks and god knows what
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Old 11-29-2013, 04:37 AM   #206
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keep it real, your government is a corrupt piece of shit, you are the ONLY country bombing shit up left and right in the world today and the whole fucking world would like the US monkey off their backs...

you make it sound like people beg you to come and bomb them

but you show some good ol american logic "all it takes is ONE saddam husein" to give reason to the US war machine to punish millions upon millions of people for the actions of a handful and some non existent WMD

man what a desperate argument on your side

also pulling the "serb" argument against a refugee is hilarious...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugee

double refugee may I add, you bombed serbia in 99 and I had to run again to fucking russia LOL

Our government is a corrupt piece of shit?
I agree with you for that much

Most people have no idea of why which conflicts happen and when.. including me. There is a lot that we do not know. This is a long debate I don't give a fuck to have, so that is all I have to say.
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Old 11-29-2013, 04:41 AM   #207
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We tend to steer clear of government contracts. We like to actually get paid for the products we manufacture.

Without giving to much away, recently a division of the federal government approached us to purchase a product we make. Non-military hardware so we bit. Had all the testing done went through the mountain of paperwork to be a tier one supplier. Then waited.

After a month our sales manager called the man that he was dealing with. The man was terribly embarrassed. It seems that congress mandated to this department that the product we hope to sell them was not funded. So the law says they have to do this but they don't have any money to pay for it. Right now, just the cost of the testing data we were required to submit was well into 5 figures. I haven't asked, because I really don't want to know. But it would not shock me if with travel ,engineering, packaging, administration costs that we could be into this for 6 figures.


Why in all of hell was there not some kind of agreement on paper for them to pay for the development or testing or whatever? I mean, hell, it could have even been that you would pay the costs of it and let them take care of it once deals started happening...

You did this without them paying for it because the potential money to be made was worth it for you to risk spending the hundred dimes... right? If it panned out it'd have been a few M?

Not trying to say I understand big business... but it sure is interesting to me
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Old 11-29-2013, 04:43 AM   #208
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I know enough about the history of Yugoslavia to say that what happened came as no surprise. That country has had nothing but political problems for 75 years. My Grandfather hated it. When he came to America, he learned English and that's all he spoke. I never once heard him speak in his native tongue.

Our family was and to a certain extent still is involved in industry, banking and politics there. If I posted my last name you would recognize it.
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I am not at all sure if I like you or not but you sure are interesting
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As an aside, to add to my rant post which no one should ever read but me.. I think there should be more REAL HELP out there. You know, all week I hardly ate food at all. I was out of money. I didn't eat much. Well, there is a foodbank a couple miles away, I think I could go to it maybe. Half of this town does. But, you know, I don't want someone to hand me food or "help" me that way. I want to starve if I fucked up and didn't get my money right. It's being in that position that will MAKE ME make it.

I think, get the fuck rid of welfare and foodbanks, and start working together more (not just being lemmings who work for nothing and then hand their meager wages right back to HUGE corporations) and maybe the average man would have a life that would be worth a fuck

Ah

More ranting

I'm going to bed :P
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Old 11-29-2013, 06:45 AM   #210
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Old 11-29-2013, 08:31 AM   #211
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Old 11-29-2013, 11:55 AM   #212
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I know enough about the history of Yugoslavia to say that what happened came as no surprise. That country has had nothing but political problems for 75 years. My Grandfather hated it. When he came to America, he learned English and that's all he spoke. I never once heard him speak in his native tongue.

Our family was and to a certain extent still is involved in industry, banking and politics there. If I posted my last name you would recognize it.
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"nothing but political problem for 75 years" is simply not true...the whole country was sucking communist dick it was brain wash like north korea ...its hilarious to see EVERYBODY deny it LOL...nobody is a yugoslav or communist or socialist any more ... hilarious....


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then i remember what a fucking shit ass he is and realize he's living the life he deserves.
I clearly see you meant my "gfy persona" I can see that you could not care less and just forgot to post "gfy persona" but you wrote life by mistake and this has, naturally, nothing at all to do with my lifestyle

thanks for explaining that...."gfy persona" LOL

oh and I have a huge dick, its just so wrong
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Old 12-02-2013, 02:13 AM   #214
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Have you started sniffing glue again?
I never have sniffed any glue, you are wrong to imply that I have or to infer from my ranting that I am now (or that I have in the past).

I'm shocked and appalled at your accusation

Darn you

Don't make me throw my pocket protector at you or call you a NAME!!
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Vbulletin does support multiquote ... Holy shit.
I still don't know how to use that
Maybe I should do that since I reply to several posts on one thread at times
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MINTE- You failed to reply to my posts, young man!! And, I was thinking that your responses might be interesting. I'm not baiting you or anything, what I mean is, it's kind of "cool" that some rich asshole will actually talk to someone who isn't anything. Like I said- I'm not sure if I like you or not but you always have been one of the few members on here who is interesting at all.

I really AM trying to get over having that chip on my shoulder about white people. Most white people are nowhere near as bad as I've been conditioned to believe that they are, and, I think that when I give them a chance- they give me more of a chance than I've allowed myself to believe that they will.
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I really AM trying to get over having that chip on my shoulder about white people. Most white people are nowhere near as bad as I've been conditioned to believe that they are, and, I think that when I give them a chance- they give me more of a chance than I've allowed myself to believe that they will.
wtf... you're not white? All this time, I thought you were a stupid redneck in Mississippi or someshit.
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Why in all of hell was there not some kind of agreement on paper for them to pay for the development or testing or whatever? I mean, hell, it could have even been that you would pay the costs of it and let them take care of it once deals started happening...

You did this without them paying for it because the potential money to be made was worth it for you to risk spending the hundred dimes... right? If it panned out it'd have been a few M?

Not trying to say I understand big business... but it sure is interesting to me
MrMaxwell, I'll pick this one to respond to.

Starting out with any new customer is a risk. Both parties enter into what is hoped to be a long and profitable relationship. We do our research on each other before the first meeting. Dun & Bradstreet is who we use.

If it were a smaller, under financed company we may ask them to participate in the up front costs. As companies get larger, those options aren't on the table any more. If we want to do business with fortune 500 companies not only are we expected to absord the initial costs, after the fact we are expected to finance their receivables for 60-90 days.

Large corporations are rarely going to get in bed with a small unestablished startup company.
If you want to do business with big companies it's the cost of doing business.

The federal government is a big company.
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MrMaxwell, I'll pick this one to respond to.

Starting out with any new customer is a risk. Both parties enter into what is hoped to be a long and profitable relationship. We do our research on each other before the first meeting. Dun & Bradstreet is who we use.

If it were a smaller, under financed company we may ask them to participate in the up front costs. As companies get larger, those options aren't on the table any more. If we want to do business with fortune 500 companies not only are we expected to absord the initial costs, after the fact we are expected to finance their receivables for 60-90 days.

Large corporations are rarely going to get in bed with a small unestablished startup company.
If you want to do business with big companies it's the cost of doing business.

The federal government is a big company.

That really sucks. Big business I know is not all rainbows and butterflies, but that's pretty fucked up. Good lord.
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oh sorry I was mislead by:



I clearly see you meant my "gfy persona" I can see that you could not care less and just forgot to post "gfy persona" but you wrote life by mistake and this has, naturally, nothing at all to do with my lifestyle

thanks for explaining that...."gfy persona" LOL

oh and I have a huge dick, its just so wrong
obviously, difficult topics are not your forte. i'll explain- the life you portray via your gfy persona is one of a miserable person who blames his life and everything around him that he disagrees with on something the usa has done.
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Starting out with any new customer is a risk. Both parties enter into what is hoped to be a long and profitable relationship. We do our research on each other before the first meeting. Dun & Bradstreet is who we use.
Just a quick note... D&B may be great for ancillary research of big companies, but be very careful about using it for smaller businesses. I've known several business owners who delayed filing info with D&B for an entire down period, only to report better numbers in the following period than should have been allowed on record (construction companies are especially notorious for gaming D&B reports). It definitely has some uses, but it's not a panacea, and I'm surprised by how often bean-counters in an accounting department think it's the equivalent of auditing a vendor's books. In reality it's a lot like Alexa... very accurate for the top 1000, but once you get down past the top 5% it becomes very inaccurate in a lot of instances.
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Just a quick note... D&B may be great for ancillary research of big companies, but be very careful about using it for smaller businesses. I've known several business owners who delayed filing info with D&B for an entire down period, only to report better numbers in the following period than should have been allowed on record (construction companies are especially notorious for gaming D&B reports). It definitely has some uses, but it's not a panacea, and I'm surprised by how often bean-counters in an accounting department think it's the equivalent of auditing a vendor's books. In reality it's a lot like Alexa... very accurate for the top 1000, but once you get down past the top 5% it becomes very inaccurate in a lot of instances.
I agree with that. For instance, our tire company has not sent anything to D&B. And I have seen examples where they were completely wrong.

A few years ago, we looked up a well established company we were going to do business with. I had visited them, and my litmus test is the parking lot of the company. If I see it full, with decent cars it usually means the company is doing fine. D&B had an analyst call me and warn me strongly not to extend any terms that they were on the ropes.

I didn't believe it and pushed him to look deeper. He did, turns out that the parent company had gone through a bunch of litigation. The division we were working with was doing fine and they changed their recommendation. From that point, we always send a VP to visit a new customer. Eyes on..
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this thread is now 5 pages. Cliff notes?
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this thread is now 5 pages. Cliff notes?
sure thing-

the thread is 5 pages.
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obviously, difficult topics are not your forte. i'll explain- the life you portray via your gfy persona is one of a miserable person who blames his life and everything around him that he disagrees with on something the usa has done.
oh right riiiiight that then must be the reason you wrote life instead of gfy persona silly me

makes perfect sense....I will inform all the dictionary publishers and encyclopedias that from now on the word "life" actually means "projected gfy persona" in the english language...

since gfy persona now means life, what is the new word for the existence of an individual human being that "life" used to mean??

oh and does gfy persona also mean the condition that distinguishes animals and plants from inorganic matter, including the capacity for growth, reproduction, functional activity, and continual change preceding death?

does the word death mean anything new now since life means gfy persona?

its all confusing shit bro, thank god you are here to explain
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this thread is now 5 pages. Cliff notes?
OK, here's my version:

Aden Dreams, a photographer/videographer extraordinaire, who has a huge loft studio in LA called out Minte for not donating to the people effected by the Philippines Typhoon.

During the 5 page dialogue, it came out that:

1. Minte does a lot of charitable work, but not enough to the Flips for Aden's liking;

2. Aden Dreams either lets a $9 an hour Indian programmer use his GFY account to get business or is actually a $9 an hour Indian programmer himself.

3. I'll throw in this picture, even though Babu is Pakistani, because this thread is a lot more entertaining if you do Babu's voice whenever reading Aden's posts. (ie: "Minte- he is very bad man. Very bad.")

4. Aden Dreams - Dream Café. Coincidence? I think not.

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Are you talking about dunn and bradstreet?

I learned LONG ago to never trust anything with an extremely white name

I'm not saying that of the chip on me, either, it holds true almost every time
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He must have died in that snowboarding trip he was about to take while his Filipino friends were suffering.
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Old 12-07-2013, 03:44 PM   #230
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Are you talking about dunn and bradstreet?

I learned LONG ago to never trust anything with an extremely white name

I'm not saying that of the chip on me, either, it holds true almost every time
Those are the dirty rats. If the day comes that they close their doors. I won't miss them.
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Old 12-07-2013, 04:19 PM   #231
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this thread is now 5 pages. Cliff notes?
Sure. 3.25 pages are MrMaxwell spouting nonsense.
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