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DTK · 10-05-2013, 07:33 PM

Discuss.....

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Will Sheehan claims that when he tried to sign up for Obamacare and then register to opt out, he received an ominous warning. Sheehan?s full Facebook post reads;

?I actually made it through this morning at 8:00 A.M. I have a preexisting condition (Type 1 Diabetes) and my income base was 45K-55K annually I chose tier 2 ?Silver Plan? and my monthly premiums came out to $597.00 with $13,988 yearly deductible!!! There is NO POSSIBLE way that I can afford this so I ?opt-out? and chose to continue along with no insurance.

I received an email tonight at 5:00 P.M. informing me that my fine would be $4,037 and could be attached to my yearly income tax return. Then you make it to the ?REPERCUSSIONS PORTION? for ?non-payment? of yearly fine. First, your drivers license will be suspended until paid, and if you go 24 consecutive months with ?Non-Payment? and you happen to be a home owner, you will have a federal tax lien placed on your home. You can agree to give your bank information so that they can easy ?Automatically withdraw? your ?penalties? weekly, bi-weekly or monthly! This by no means is ?Free? or even ?Affordable.?

DTK · 10-05-2013, 08:09 PM

Double thread post. Sorry.

Mods, please delete/lock this one. thanks

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-05-2013, 08:25 PM

Derangement

DTK · 10-05-2013, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Vapid

Derangement

Can you please repost your reply in this thread https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1122855

thanks

bean-aid · 10-05-2013, 08:30 PM

Bump for obama!

bronco67 · 10-05-2013, 08:33 PM

Seems like a pretty big problem to me. You should let Fox News know about this because they'd all spontaneously orgasm while on the air.

Rochard · 10-05-2013, 09:18 PM

This is all bullshit: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...le-obamacare-/

This is the problem with the internet. Any jackass can make shit up and post it, and then more jackasses repost it without verifying it.

epitome · 10-05-2013, 09:31 PM

That's weird, because they have $0 yearly deductible plans for less than that in Florida (through Blue Cross). You can go to http://www.bcbsfl.com/ and see for yourself. Keep in mind, Florida is an anti-ObamaCare state that sued to not participate, so there certainly isn't anyone in the state legislature trying to help out.

I smell BS and there is going to be a lot more of it coming out in the coming months.

epitome · 10-05-2013, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

This is the problem with the internet. Any jackass can make shit up and post it, and then more jackasses repost it without verifying it.

There will be no shortness of this coming from the anti-ACA crowd. They'll repeat anything negative that they hear and refuse to believe anything good that they hear. There are certainly flaws in the legislation, but nowhere near what people make it out to be. In fact, many of the things they argue against are made up in the first place.

The death panels are a great example. For the majority of people, it will still be private insurance. Nobody went around calling insurance companies death panels in the past, even though they had annual and lifetime limits (now illegal under ObamaCare) and did such things as only approving certain drugs at certain times for cancer treatment.

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-05-2013, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DTK

Can you please repost your reply in this thread https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1122855

thanks

Sure thing

DTK · 10-05-2013, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Vapid

Sure thing

edit: nm. i think my browser was fucking up.

thanks!

Wait!

mromro · 10-05-2013, 10:15 PM

So you get a fine for not buying a private companies product? You don't buy it you are a criminal. Why not make it a law that you have to buy a Ford. If not you get a fine or buy a new apple iPhone or you get a fine.
Same shit . Illegal, unconstitutional and Unamerican.
They can't pass a law that violates the constitution.
It violates the 4th and 5th amendments.
4th to be secure in you documents(you don't have to share them with anybody)
5th the right to remain silent(in order to sign up for anything you have to speak, but you have the right to remain silent)
my advice, shut up, ignore it, don't give any information. let it fail and vote out the democrats until they repeal it.

DTK · 10-06-2013, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DTK

Discuss.....

BTW this was a hoax that started w/a FB post & then email circulated to right wingers. Many of whom took it as fact & regurgitated.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...le-obamacare-/

DTK · 10-06-2013, 01:10 PM

Special congrats to mromro for copy/pasting the same nonsense in every obamacare thread.

baddog · 10-06-2013, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mromro

So you get a fine for not buying a private companies product? You don't buy it you are a criminal. Why not make it a law that you have to buy a Ford. If not you get a fine or buy a new apple iPhone or you get a fine.
Same shit . Illegal, unconstitutional and Unamerican.
They can't pass a law that violates the constitution.
It violates the 4th and 5th amendments.
4th to be secure in you documents(you don't have to share them with anybody)
5th the right to remain silent(in order to sign up for anything you have to speak, but you have the right to remain silent)
my advice, shut up, ignore it, don't give any information. let it fail and vote out the democrats until they repeal it.

If you had paid attention to the Supreme Court ruling you would know it is not a fine, it is a tax; which is why they can do it.

mromro · 10-06-2013, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

If you had paid attention to the Supreme Court ruling you would know it is not a fine, it is a tax; which is why they can do it.

I know what they said and that is the stupidest logic anyone has ever heard calling it a tax.
Hey, you got caught speeding. It's not a fine it's a tax.
Yeah, a tax that starts at 100 dollars and goes up to 6% of your gross income. Yeah, Sounds like a tax to me.

Rochard · 10-06-2013, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mromro

So you get a fine for not buying a private companies product? You don't buy it you are a criminal. Why not make it a law that you have to buy a Ford. If not you get a fine or buy a new apple iPhone or you get a fine.
Same shit . Illegal, unconstitutional and Unamerican.
They can't pass a law that violates the constitution.
It violates the 4th and 5th amendments.
4th to be secure in you documents(you don't have to share them with anybody)
5th the right to remain silent(in order to sign up for anything you have to speak, but you have the right to remain silent)
my advice, shut up, ignore it, don't give any information. let it fail and vote out the democrats until they repeal it.

You legally are required to have car insurance. You are legally required to carry homeowners insurance.

DTK · 10-06-2013, 06:56 PM

I'm not even a big Obamacare fan, but when I see jagoffs like mromro still claiming it's unconstitutional, I just think.....jagoff.

But he's not alone..I saw some TBag congressman/senator say the same on the floor a week or so ago.

onwebcam · 10-06-2013, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

You legally are required to have car insurance. You are legally required to carry homeowners insurance.

The lender requires you have homeowners. If you own your home outright you aren't required.

As far as auto is concerned it's not comparable and a cop out. You are required to have LIABILITY insurance that covers other people and their property, not you and yours.

kane · 10-06-2013, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mromro

So you get a fine for not buying a private companies product? You don't buy it you are a criminal. Why not make it a law that you have to buy a Ford. If not you get a fine or buy a new apple iPhone or you get a fine.
Same shit . Illegal, unconstitutional and Unamerican.
They can't pass a law that violates the constitution.
It violates the 4th and 5th amendments.
4th to be secure in you documents(you don't have to share them with anybody)
5th the right to remain silent(in order to sign up for anything you have to speak, but you have the right to remain silent)
my advice, shut up, ignore it, don't give any information. let it fail and vote out the democrats until they repeal it.

Allow me to play devil's advocate.

Shouldn't it be required that people can prove that they can take care of themselves in the event of a medical emergency so that everyone else doesn't have to pick up the bill for them?

If you choose not to get health insurance (or show that you are financially able to handle paying a minimum amount out of pocket) and then have some kind of major health problem and you run up a big bill that you can't pay the likely result is that the tax payers will end up paying for it. Is that fair?

DTK · 10-06-2013, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam

The lender requires you have homeowners. If you own your home outright you aren't required.

As far as auto is concerned it's not comparable and a cop out. You are required to have LIABILITY insurance that covers other people and their property, not you and yours.

Hey onwebcam, still no response to my question about posting Donald Trump's quote re: 16,000 irs agents as fact?

noshit · 10-06-2013, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DTK

Hey onwebcam, still no response to my question about posting Donald Trump's quote re: 16,000 irs agents as fact?

Don't know if that's Trumps quote but have seen that 16k figure before:
http://www.politifact.com/georgia/st...bama-health-c/

You can bet your ass whatever they tell you the number is, it's a hella lot bigger.

10-05-2013, 08:09 PM	#2
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10-05-2013, 08:33 PM	#6
bronco67 Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 29,032	Seems like a pretty big problem to me. You should let Fox News know about this because they'd all spontaneously orgasm while on the air. __________________

10-05-2013, 09:18 PM	#7
Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 73,681	This is all bullshit: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...le-obamacare-/ This is the problem with the internet. Any jackass can make shit up and post it, and then more jackasses repost it without verifying it. __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION

10-06-2013, 01:10 PM	#14
DTK Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The 510 Posts: 4,545	Special congrats to mromro for copy/pasting the same nonsense in every obamacare thread. __________________ Arguing whether the Democratic or Republican party is better is like debating which steaming pile of shit is slightly less stinky.

10-06-2013, 06:56 PM	#18
DTK Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The 510 Posts: 4,545	I'm not even a big Obamacare fan, but when I see jagoffs like mromro still claiming it's unconstitutional, I just think.....jagoff. But he's not alone..I saw some TBag congressman/senator say the same on the floor a week or so ago. __________________ Arguing whether the Democratic or Republican party is better is like debating which steaming pile of shit is slightly less stinky. Last edited by DTK; 10-06-2013 at 06:57 PM..

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Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE Barterer Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,864	Derangement

10-05-2013, 08:30 PM	#5
bean-aid So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: the land of woke sleuths Posts: 16,493	Bump for obama!

10-05-2013, 09:31 PM	#8
epitome So Fucking Lame Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 12,156	That's weird, because they have $0 yearly deductible plans for less than that in Florida (through Blue Cross). You can go to http://www.bcbsfl.com/ and see for yourself. Keep in mind, Florida is an anti-ObamaCare state that sued to not participate, so there certainly isn't anyone in the state legislature trying to help out. I smell BS and there is going to be a lot more of it coming out in the coming months.

10-05-2013, 10:15 PM	#12
mromro So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 770	So you get a fine for not buying a private companies product? You don't buy it you are a criminal. Why not make it a law that you have to buy a Ford. If not you get a fine or buy a new apple iPhone or you get a fine. Same shit . Illegal, unconstitutional and Unamerican. They can't pass a law that violates the constitution. It violates the 4th and 5th amendments. 4th to be secure in you documents(you don't have to share them with anybody) 5th the right to remain silent(in order to sign up for anything you have to speak, but you have the right to remain silent) my advice, shut up, ignore it, don't give any information. let it fail and vote out the democrats until they repeal it.