I expected some looting after the Kenyan Westgate Mall Massacre. . .

[RandyRandy]

But the level described in this article is almost unbelievable. Claiming the army actually PROLONGED the siege so they could loot from the stores as well as bloody wallets from corpses - making the identification process more difficult.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/04/wo...?smid=pl-share

[blackmonsters]

Holly shit!
How could that happen in a country full of seriously poor people who watch rich westerners buying up everything everyday.

My GOD!!

Who would have thought it even possible?

[AllAboutCams]

Not surprising

[alias]

Shocking call to arms aiming to keep the merchants protected from those whom they exploit on a daily basis.

Also, hype up the insurance claims this is a big media carnival let's not be stingy.. .

[SilentKnight]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Holly shit!
How could that happen in a country full of seriously poor people who watch rich westerners buying up everything everyday.

My GOD!!

Who would have thought it even possible?

A dude in a McClaren passed me the other day - I had to suppress the overwhelming urge to go loot his neighbourhood.










Not.

[SilentKnight]

Originally Posted by RandyRandy

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/04/wo...?smid=pl-share

Many questions are still swirling. The Shabab, a Somali Islamist group, has claimed responsibility for killing more than 60 people at the mall, but the number of militants who stormed in ? and who they were ? remain unknown.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/kenya-s-...kers-1.1484736

Major Emmanuel Chirchir said the attackers were Abu Baara al-Sudani, Omar Nabhan, Khattab al-Kene and Umayr, names that were first broadcast by a local Kenyan television station. "I confirm those are the names of the terrorist," he said, in a Twitter message sent to The Associated Press.

The identities of the men come as a private television station in Nairobi obtained and broadcast the CCTV footage from the Nairobi mall. The footage shows no more than four attackers.


Read more: http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/kenya-s-...#ixzz2gqy9rbZ1

[RandyRandy]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Holly shit!
How could that happen in a country full of seriously poor people who watch rich westerners buying up everything everyday.

My GOD!!

Who would have thought it even possible?

Some people can justify anything.

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[ilnjscb]

Originally Posted by RandyRandy

But the level described in this article is almost unbelievable. Claiming the army actually PROLONGED the siege so they could loot from the stores as well as bloody wallets from corpses - making the identification process more difficult.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/04/wo...?smid=pl-share

Kenyans with jobs make 5 dollars a day. Those things in that mall would be like someone dropping 50,000 cash in front of you. How many people would take it? In DC, 20% of people stole bottles of TEA which they easily could have afforded. If it was 50,000 you bet a large number of them would take it. If it was 1 trillion then they set up a whole government to steal it.

Also 3 soldiers died saving people. Personally, if my family was hungry and I had to take something off a rich person to feed them, I would.

Washington D.C. is least honest city in America, study says

[RandyRandy]

Originally Posted by ilnjscb

Kenyans with jobs make 5 dollars a day. Those things in that mall would be like someone dropping 50,000 cash in front of you. How many people would take it? In DC, 20% of people stole bottles of TEA which they easily could have afforded. If it was 50,000 you bet a large number of them would take it. If it was 1 trillion then they set up a whole government to steal it.

Also 3 soldiers died saving people. Personally, if my family was hungry and I had to take something off a rich person to feed them, I would.

Washington D.C. is least honest city in America, study says

A newly-commissioned Kenyan soldier makes 130,000 Kenyan shillings per month, which at today's rate of exchange is $1,500.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_much_d...t_earn_monthly

That's way more than $5 a day - in fact it's more than a lot of Americans make, albeit being a Kenyan soldier does have it's drawbacks.

My point, lost on all of the gregarious souls posting here, was that I EXPECTED LOOTING. Many human beings, African and otherwise, have larceny in their hearts, especially when no one is looking.

What shocked me wasn't the looting, but that the military would prolong the siege by DAYS in order to have more time to ransack the place. Especially while the whole world was watching. That's way different than a crime of opportunity. That's CREATING the opportunity.

[ilnjscb]

Originally Posted by RandyRandy

A newly-commissioned Kenyan soldier makes 130,000 Kenyan shillings per month, which at today's rate of exchange is $1,500.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_much_d...t_earn_monthly

That's way more than $5 a day - in fact it's more than a lot of Americans make, albeit being a Kenyan soldier does have it's drawbacks.

My point, lost on all of the gregarious souls posting here, was that I EXPECTED LOOTING. Many human beings, African and otherwise, have larceny in their hearts, especially when no one is looking.

What shocked me wasn't the looting, but that the military would prolong the siege by DAYS in order to have more time to ransack the place. Especially while the whole world was watching. That's way different than a crime of opportunity. That's CREATING the opportunity.

That is an officers salary - non-coms (the bulk) make $172 a month. There is a hierarchy in Kenyan military that sees major generals make 272k/sh a month but most soldiers don't get anywhere near that.

I don't think anyone was prepared for that siege, and the deliberate lengthening would seem to be an unconfirmed rumor. But yes, soldiers in the theatre often commit abuses. Not just Kenyan soldiers.