Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 19819639)

Since 1999, he has been ticketed by police 16 times, in Lawrence, Methuen, Roxbury, Andover, and New Hampshire, according to registry records.

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19819638)

I really didn't know Elton John had a line of autographed helmets.

Originally Posted by purecane (Post 19819651)

maybe if you didn't get your jorts at Kmart you would know more about fashion.....:pimp

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 19819639)

This is the punk laying in the hospital.....

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopo...iah-mieses.jpg


"Though Mieses is a Massachusetts resident, he has never had a valid Massachusetts driver?s license for a passenger vehicle and has never applied for a motorcycle license, the Registry of Motor Vehicles said.

Registry records show that Mieses applied for a learner?s permit in 1999 and 2000, but that he never obtained a full license because he failed to pay fines imposed after he was ticketed for speeding in Lawrence in 1999. His last contact with the Registry was in 2001, when he obtained an identification card, registry records show.

Since 1999, he has been ticketed by police 16 times, in Lawrence, Methuen, Roxbury, Andover, and New Hampshire, according to registry records.

In June, the Registry notified the National Driver Register that Mieses was a habitual traffic offender whose right to drive in Massachusetts was revoked until 2017, records show."

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 19819610)

Yet you went on and on about how Zimmerman was justified and had no choice but to shoot Martin. Hmmmm....

Originally Posted by bhutocracy (Post 19819599)

Don't backtrack like a sly fuck. You clearly and expressly said how "asian suv driver" "should have handled it" By de-escalating it the way you would. That was the whole fucking point of your post, to show how smart you'd have been and how his wife and kid wouldn't have been in that situation if you were driving.

My post explained that whilst you might speak fuckhead, not everyone does and that maintaining his speed and course are obvious responsible actions when surrounded by bikers and therefore is a stupid point to make unless you want to mount an education campaign about the right way to react to fuckheads who think they own the road. If there is an unwritten rule that you take the right lane whenever you see two or more bikers in your rear view then that's something everyone might need to know. Here's a fact, driving at a constant speed in a constant lane isn't ANY kind of escalation of anything.. it's called driving responsibly. It's like saying walking on the sidewalk is escalating a situation when a pack of thugs start running up behind you. There is only a single solitary party to blame for escalating ANYTHING and that's the bikers.

You're mistakenly thinking "asian suv guy" WASN'T giving them all the road they wanted. In his mind he's putting his head down and giving them as much space as they want on either side of him to pass. How is he supposed to know they want the MIDDLE lane???

My closing remark shows my bias against fuckhead revheads on the road, bikers, drag racers, drunk drivers anyone that endangers "civilians" trying to live their lives peacefully without being accosted by pathetic slime.

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 19819647)

i didnt know motorbikes in groups dont have to follow traffic laws...

Originally Posted by RandyRandy (Post 19819805)

Until they are classified as terrorists, the NYPD will let them continue and if Bill de Blasio becomes the next mayor, what happened on Sunday will happen again. Repeatedly.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19819822)

so there's discussion in the nyc city government to classify groups of motorcyclists as terrorists?

Originally Posted by RandyRandy (Post 19819862)

Not that I know of - I was being a little sarcastic in that the NYPD is so focused on terrorism that unless you fit a terrorism profile, you are not a high priority. Kinda like on Sunday. The tail-end of UN week with thousands of police officers providing security for diplomats, while a gang of motorcycle thugs roam free on the West Side highway. It's reported that over 200 phone calls were made during this spree and yet not one police officer saw any of the 6.5 minute chase in broad daylight on a major roadway, or the subsequent beat-down on 178th Street.

Originally Posted by bhutocracy (Post 19819466)

The thing you're clearly not understanding is that most people don't speak fuckhead, so aren't going to know special secret fuckhead rules of how fuckheads think you should act while they're being fuckheads.

My biker friends (not club members, just enthusiasts) basically say they way they ride is to pretend they are invisible, not do anything stupid, signal, be very clear. Based on these conversations if a pack of motorcyclists came up from behind me the logical thing for me to do would be to not change anything in my driving so as to not spook them or do anything a cyclist might find unexpected. If some cunt tried to brake check it would clearly seem completely antagonistic and of course wholly unexpected, I'd just be waiting for them to pass by on the other MULTIPLE lanes. If someone doesn't speak fuckhead how are they supposed to know these animals want to shut down the whole freeway and will harass and brake check people to do it?

You make out like he acted incorrectly, he acted perfectly in the situation and according to the road rules, he might not have known the special secret fuckhead road rules that make a bike gang above the law, that but that's not his fault, it's theirs for not doing a letterbox campaign and informing people of their special rights on the road and how to act around animals. Just like in the wild, most people will freeze (ie continue driving legally exactly as they were) until the "danger" passes. Which is exactly what he did until the fuckhead caused the accident by brake checking him. He was even on the phone reporting their shitty activity, which is confirmed by the rest of the videos of them running red lights and driving on footpaths inches away from pedestrians. I suppose the pedestrians should know how to walk on a footpath too and always be on the lookout for packs of motorfuckheads?

Having been on the receiving end of almost this exact same situation (a fuckhead in a car brake checking and menacing in traffic for miles, to almost complete stops on a freeway - but no vehicular contact) completely blamelessly on my part, the fuckhead thought I beeped him when it was the car next to me beeping the car in front of them for being slow on green at the lights... I have less than zero sympathy for these animals. If I could have shot the motherfucker or rammed him I would have. All the more galling for being completely innocent of the "crime" of beeping someone for being slow on green. We wouldn't have lost anything as a species, just another moron or 'roid head, same as in this case.

The point is, sometimes you can't avoid situations because they aren't of your own making, you are following all the rules to a T and you don't know the fuckhead code and what might set people who think they have special rights off, with a beep, a bad look, slow driving, fast driving, they have their man-rags because their life is so shitty jerking each other off on dirt bikes is all they have etc.

Originally Posted by bhutocracy (Post 19819473)

A pack of hyenas menaced an elephant and got trampled as it fled.. That's the price you pay and the risk you take. Actions have consequences. You can't expect many people to sympathise with the hyenas harassing and menacing people. It's only a relative shame it didn't happen to the brake checker instead who would have deserved less than zero sympathy and possibly a darwin award.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19819542)

no, i am clearly understanding. that's why my comment is about how i handle that sort of situation. i didn't state how you would handle it. or baddog, or gfy poster #4 or the asian suv driver or anyone. just me. so i fully understand.

it seems you don't understand, here, i will explain.

1. i never spoke to whether he handled the situation "correctly* or not.

b. i wasn't talking about following rules, i was talking about dealing with what you call fuckheads, i've got enough miles on the road to know when a pack of fuckheads is coming up in my rearview mirror and have the snap to move out of the way. maybe this guy being 30-something range rover owner has yet to figure that out.

* the asskicking he got, the jeopardy he put his family in and the forthcoming lawsuit(s) should learn him real good though.

people think this guy handled it perfectly fine when he ended up getting his ass beat, his car smashed up, putting his family in danger, running over several bikers and paralyzing one.

again, my point is, i've successfully navigated myself out of EVERY road rage event i've started to become involved in. i don't play that shit, have at it, you want my chunk of road, np, here you go.

oh, and your little quip at the end of your droning diatribe reveals your real view.

Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 19819591)

He ran out there to check on his injured bud? My ass! he ran out there to beat the shit out of SUV driver not to check on some other guy he barely knew.

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 19819639)

This is the punk laying in the hospital.....

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopo...iah-mieses.jpg


"Though Mieses is a Massachusetts resident, he has never had a valid Massachusetts driver?s license for a passenger vehicle and has never applied for a motorcycle license, the Registry of Motor Vehicles said.

Registry records show that Mieses applied for a learner?s permit in 1999 and 2000, but that he never obtained a full license because he failed to pay fines imposed after he was ticketed for speeding in Lawrence in 1999. His last contact with the Registry was in 2001, when he obtained an identification card, registry records show.

Since 1999, he has been ticketed by police 16 times, in Lawrence, Methuen, Roxbury, Andover, and New Hampshire, according to registry records.

In June, the Registry notified the National Driver Register that Mieses was a habitual traffic offender whose right to drive in Massachusetts was revoked until 2017, records show."

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 19819647)

i didnt know motorbikes in groups dont have to follow traffic laws...

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19819885)

How the fuck does one "move out of the way" when being swarmed on all sides by bikes zipping back and forth between lanes, on sidewalks, running red lights?

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19819899)

not only that, do you really think this pack swarmed every fucking car they passed? of course not.

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 19819639)

This is the punk laying in the hospital.....

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopo...iah-mieses.jpg

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19819913)

Yes I do
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3cd_1380579664

The fact is, you refuse to remove your blinders. Has the SUV driver been charged with anything?

And I have to ask, have you EVER driven in NYC? Get out of the way . . . what a joke.

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 19819933)

i find it totally absurd that cars are supposed to stop and get out of the way cause a bunch of assholes on their bikes want to play kings of the road - sorry

Originally Posted by tom_pm (Post 19819959)

i'm still not commenting on this mess.

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 19819933)

i find it totally absurd that cars are supposed to stop and get out of the way cause a bunch of assholes on their bikes want to play kings of the road - sorry

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19819949)

that said, his choice of dealing with how to deal with irl absurdity left him beaten, people run over, etc.

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19819974)

I find it absurd that an American biker is actually forcing me to agree with you. :1orglaugh

You guys know Rex (Virtual Girl). I remember a few years ago him and his brother rode Route 66 from Chicago to Santa Monica. On the last day I met up with them and we rode thru Beverly Hills, Hollywood, Santa Monica. I could not believe that they were riding as if they were on the streets of Paris.

I stopped them and explained they could split lanes, but there was a right and wrong way to do it. His brother and I were laughing about it over lunch the other day.

Originally Posted by Jel (Post 19819977)

So basically, in hindsight, with how it turned out (not how it *may* have turned out), he did the right thing. I agree :)

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19819998)

if doing the right thing means getting beaten up, family terrorized, car smashed, people run over and paralyzed, i will work to avoid being put in that situation. for instance, i certainly wouldn't be multitasking while driving my family calling 911 to speak with the operator about erratic drivers, giving them the needed mile marker info, license plate info, who i am, what i am driving, etc et al on&on, blah blah.

instead, i would be using my brain to get my family out of the precarious situation by changing lanes and possibly exiting the freeway when i noticed the crazy sea of headlights fast approaching in my rear view.

Originally Posted by RandyRandy (Post 19820018)

Of course avoiding such situations is always preferable. As a professional taxi driver in NYC, I've been able to avoid any such situations even after logging in over 1 million city miles (2 Crown Vics and I'm on my 2nd Camry Hybrid). I want to run over pedestrians and bicyclists every time I drive - but I've managed to avoid that so far.

The SUV driver is probably a typical "Sunday Driver". Probably didn't look in his rear-view mirror. Probably talking to his wife. Maybe distracted by his 2 year old. Then he was surrounded and it was too late. Probably never had a chance to get out of the way fast enough for these guys' liking. Thugs who unsuccessfully tried to convene in Times Square and couldn't - so they were already pissed off.

We could go back and forth all day and everyone is entitled to their opinion.

But I will only offer one fact: The Roosevelt Hotel is for European tourists. The next time you're in NY, PM me for a better hotel selection.

Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 19819682)

Some say this is fashion too. To rest of us its just looks stupid. :2 cents:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-_NC6BqfXxN...ging-pants.jpg

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19819913)

Yes I do
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3cd_1380579664

The fact is, you refuse to remove your blinders. Has the SUV driver been charged with anything?

And I have to ask, have you EVER driven in NYC? Get out of the way . . . what a joke.

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 19819979)

I've been driving with Rex in his Cayenne in Paris and almost peed my pants :winkwink:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19819998)

if doing the right thing means getting beaten up, family terrorized, car smashed, people run over and paralyzed, i will work to avoid being put in that situation. for instance, i certainly wouldn't be multitasking while driving my family calling 911 to speak with the operator about erratic drivers, giving them the needed mile marker info, license plate info, who i am, what i am driving, etc et al on&on, blah blah.

instead, i would be using my brain to get my family out of the precarious situation by changing lanes and possibly exiting the freeway when i noticed the crazy sea of headlights fast approaching in my rear view.

Originally Posted by 2012 (Post 19820046)

are they retarded ?

Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 19820076)

To those feeling sorry for the biker, they do it all the time and the brake check bump is a classic move from these pieces of shit to extort money or to just harass people who are foreign/helpless looking/have family/etc.

Same bitches in 2011:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=81e_1380656714

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19819949)

it is absurd. but life sometimes means having to make choices in the face of absurdity.

i get this guy, i do. he was doing right, he was in the center lane, minding his own business, prolly not going too much over the speed limit even. he had every single right to keep doing what he was doing, it's absurd to think otherwise.

that said, his choice of dealing with how to deal with irl absurdity left him beaten, people run over, etc.

Originally Posted by Jel (Post 19820068)

Until that exact point it started, he was unaware - that doesn't make hm wrong, just because you ar mr. xyz would have been aware prior to that. So yep, given what actually happened here, and without all the ifs, buts, and maybes, he did exactly the right thing armed with the knowledge and experience he had. Absolutely.

Originally Posted by Jel (Post 19820080)

He got sent out with his door key around his neck - I'd say yep :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 19820100)

The only reason the SUV driver got beaten was because he didn't lock his doors or didn't back up and over them to escape the bikers as they attacked him when he was blocked by stopped traffic. He could and should have been able to get away without being beaten and still not get charged with any crime.