They stopped them, that's illegal, is it the SUV responsibility to try and kill the biker, I don't think so

Earphones and earbuds are illegal
Splitting lanes is legal
I was doing it once and had a CHP behind me
Get informed before making a comment please.

I was not even discussing that part when I said you were wrong; I was referring to your "loud pipes" and "splitting lanes" reasoning.

Who ever told you H-D has to be run at 25 MPH to avoid overheating?

My best friend is a Harley mechanic, he has told me to keep moving at least 25 mph. I'm going to listen to him

This :2 cents::2 cents: fucking morons (the bikers), deserves to be shot every last one of them.

I hope they arrest some of these fuckers.

mega punch in 1st try

i agree. i also don't see how the guy in the SUV was wrong at all.

yup, all of those criminal bikers should be run over by motorists. that behavior certainly deserves torture, mutilation and death.

in fact, all aggressive bikers are fair game to be run over and killed by anybody in a car and especially anyone in an suv.

same with bicyclists and pedestrians that get in the way. we should also speed up to run over jaywalkers. fuck that shit, run em over, this is my chunk of concrete.

I just heard on the news that the biker that got ran over is paralyzed and in an induced coma.

The assholes in this thread that wanted him crushed got their wish

I watched the video, no one was attacking the SUV, he said he had a slashed tire? Probably got cut on the bikes he ran over because he saw too many episodes of Sons of Anarchy.

i agree. i also don't see how the guy in the SUV was wrong at all.

Same here. Bikers suck balls, just in case.

This driver has the same philosophy :2 cents:

Air cooled motors are not made for stop and go traffic and will over heat

I have synthetic in my bike, but common sense would dictate that a 25 mph breeze is going to be better for my bike. My mechanic is the one that said 25 mph.

Loud pipes I have seen several times the benefit of having moderately loud pipes.

Drivers know you are there, that's why I have all 3 lights on when I'm driving and why I'm getting the brighter LED lights later

as a rider who's logged millions of miles on 2 wheels... everyone of those bikers should be arrested

..and is under arrest :thumbsup

Cruz is not the biker that got injured, but the one that caused the incident ...

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_1...involving-suv/


this incident i a bit like a road rage one : stupid.

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As someone that only rode motorcycles and didn't even own a car for over 20 years, I think that the bikers were completely in the wrong.

They are not allowed to take over a road, they have no authority to try to stop or slow down other vehicles.... swarming all around them and then by slamming on their brakes right in front of them, thus causing an accident.

And at that point, when they swarm around the SUV in a threatening manner, I would, (with my kid and wife in the truck), gun it and go right through them, and frankly, if they had all been chasing as occurred in this case, I would have been side swiping them at speed in order to protect my wife and child from the possibility that one of them had a gun. AND the guy was on the phone with police before the first biker was even hit.


There is a reason that the SUV guy is not being charged and the bikers are.... It's because they were wrong all the way.


:2 cents:
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Mob mentality that got completely out of hand.

It's not good from any angle, but to say the SUV guy is not to blame for any of it is bullshit. You don't flee the scene of an accident by running over people.

There is going to be a legal fight over this

I like how they use the word "gang" to make it look worse

He's fleeing for his life essentially. They ended up pulling him out of the car in the city, beating him and slashing his face. Can you imagine what would have happened out on that highway if we stayed?

Yet he continued to drive, why didn't he just pull over?

Look I'm not saying the bikers had the right to pull to a stop in the middle of traffic, but I didn't see in the video anyone attacking the SUV till later after the SUV had driven over someone.

As far as the arrests, the police were already looking for a reason to arrest them, that doesn't mean a thing.
There is going to be some big law suits over this

Why would a guy pull over with 50 people surrounding and attacking him?

the biker got what he deserved; same can be said for the guy in the suv. for ever action there is a reaction.

The bikers were in control of the situation. They surrounded the SUV. They're completely at fault, and I have sympathy for the guy who is in a coma, because he was trying to help another biker -- but as a whole group, those guys suck. Some them should be in jail.

No kidding, I'd be scared out of my mind.

because he was being surrounded by 50 guys intent on attacking him. They had already attacked his car after the accident first happened, PRIOR to him running anyone over. Read the report.




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Nobody is getting sued. You are going to see a bunch of bikers doing jail time and I wouldn't be surprised if you see some legislation prohibiting large groups of bikes riding together. Thats probably something the gov has been wanting to do forever.

I watched the video, did you, where was the guy in the SUV getting attacked?

No one deserves to be ran over by a SUV because someone was surrounded.

I agree the bikers should not have been doing that. It was stupid.

But that didn't give anyone the right to run over someone, did you see the SUV jump into the air?

He can say anything he wants, I didn't see anything in the video showing he was getting attacked before he ran over that guy.

Intent? Means nothing happened yet.

the biker that started it all (according to the video) has been arrested:

http://jalopnik.com/biker-at-start-o...ste-1433776499

"28-year-old Christopher Cruz can be seen in the video (and in the screenshot above) in a white t-shirt slowing down in the middle lane of the West Side Highway, right in front of the now-famous black Range Rover driven by 33-year-old Alexian Lien with his wife and two-year-old in the car. Cruz got hit by the Range Rover for this brake check and was later hospitalized and released for minor injuries, reports the New York Post

The police have since arrested Cruz and thrown the book at him, effectively marking him responsible for the half-hour chase that ended with Alexian Lien beaten and his car smashed. Police charged Cruz with reckless endangerment, reckless driving, endangering the welfare of a child, and menacing, reports the New York Post"

This is the guy ( Meises ) possibly paralyzed:
http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopo...5/meises-1.jpg
( I think Zimmerman would have shot this one too ...)

as for stopping, Vendz:

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopo...rs2n-3-web.jpg

Police said Lien initially stopped after the accident, but several angry bikers began to bash his car with their helmets and slash his tires before he fled.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...#ixzz2gUNNWaqb

How are you going to enforce a law that limits the number of motorcycles riding together?

Think about it, it's pretty stupid..... ever heard of HOG? Over a million members

If they were beating his SUV, it doesn't show in the video and slashing the tires? That SUV was driving away pretty good after it drove over one of the bikers.

That driver is going to say anything his lawyer tells him to say

What a bunch of idiots.

You do a brake check, you get hit, you go all mob on the guy and you get ran over.

next idiot please.

wow ....

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/201..._accident.html

The crux of the issue is this:

Was the SUV Driver being terrorized PRIOR to running anyone over?

Was he in legitimate fear for his families security and justified by hitting the gas in an attempt to flee to safety?

From the looks of the video I think this is a no brainer, he was surrounded by angry violent bikers on a mob mentality high...he had every right to try to escape.

As for the second incident where the lunatics smash his window, he really would have been justified to throw it in reverse and kill several of them before being dragged out and brutally beaten.

wow ....

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/201..._accident.html

Yes it is fair because Tyson doesn't go around punching people for nothing.
You could have easily avoided the attack by facing the fact that you are a bitch next to him and then not talk shit when he told you to move the fuck out of his way.

Just move your bitch ass out the way.
If you think your fist are equal to his, then keep talking shit.

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