Just in from AVN !!!! New HIV Case detected Moratorium Reinstated !! - Page 6 - GoFuckYourself.com

_Richard_ · 09-11-2013, 04:38 PM

gentlemen...

gabe100 · 09-11-2013, 04:42 PM

leaving ADG rather deflated...

insert balloon popping pic
insert boxer on floor looking dazed

Robbie · 09-11-2013, 04:50 PM

All I'm saying in my posts are that people should start using GOOGLE and research this for themselves.

1. HIV is now treatable by a single pill. That pill will reduce your viral load to ZERO. You can live a long and healthy life.

2. That pill is covered by insurance under Obama Care. Nobody needs "help" for their treatment.

I have NO idea why ADG decided to make that post that is supposed to put me in a bad light. I've watched him in this thread do the same thing to Porno Dan for no reason at all.

But I'm not a nice guy like Dan is.

ADG isn't some faceless troll, he's a guy I've sat with...talked with...hung out with, and shook his hand. I considered him to be a friend.

To try and make me look bad in a post was totally uncalled for. I hope that he calms the fuck down and re-thinks that post.

Again...all I'm saying is EVERYBODY educate yourselves. I've found out things about HIV that I had NO idea about in the last few days. And most of it was a lot better than I thought it was going to be.
Not saying that it's okay to catch it. Of course not. But it's not as bad as it's been made out to be either.

Just google it up and start learning for yourselves. Don't listen to me. It's easily done with a few clicks.

amacontent · 09-11-2013, 05:05 PM

[QUOTE=AsianDivaGirlsWebDude;19795632So you are saying that you've never hired/fucked girls that do drugs, or that have fucked gay guys unprotected, etc? You are fucking kidding yourself.

Now let's say that one of these girls had a clean test, but contracted HIV+ which was not detected, and you just happened to hire her when the infection kicked in and her HIV+ count jumped, and you were infected.

ADG[/QUOTE]

I have NEVER hired a guy before that has done gay for pay that I have known about. If I know a guy has done gay. I NEVER hired him. It was a precautionary measure on my point
And it was my choice. Obviously I hired some that had done gay before that I didnt know about. That was their choice. I have complete compassion for anyone that contracts this aweful disease. BUT im not about to contribute to someone who knowingly put themselves and others in harms way. I am more apt to contributed to another female or male performer that has contatcted HIV from the ground zero patient. I know lots of people do all kinds of drugs, and interacts with talent who plays both sides of the fence..and they know VERY WELL what can happen because of it. Right or wrong that is my opinion. I hope all parties are well and receive my best wishes.

As far as me contracting HIV when I was doing BG sets.. I know the risk is there every time I shot. I to this day think porn is the safest way to have unprotected sex. The tests may not be flawless.. but is there anything in life flawless. Im not gonna compare apples and oranges .. but every time I ref a hockey game there is always the chance I fall and break my neck. Do I know the risks.. yes Do I still work yes.

Is there an answer for this mess.. who knows.. probably never gonna be perfect. Maybe an answer is a blanket insurance company where the powers to be in the porn biz come up with some plan to insure people. Maybe the more these cases pop up the more girls will NOT screw guys who do bareback gay. I don't know. I would be more than happy to be part of the solution than part of the discussion.

Qbert · 09-11-2013, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

To try and make me look bad in a post was totally uncalled for.

I think you've more or less managed to do that all on your own.

marcop · 09-11-2013, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

No, not full effect. But a lot of it is already in place (enough to have driven by insurance rates through the roof).

I'm not sure where you got the "through the roof" information, but I've read otherwise, : Health Plan Cost for New Yorkers Set to Fall 50%: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/17/he...anted=all&_r=0; and here on CNN, Study says not to expect Obamacare premium spike: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...iref=allsearch. It seems that like Rick in Casablanca you've been misinformend.

What I like about the NY Times and CNN is that they just report the news and let me decide.

DWB · 09-11-2013, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by amacontent

I have NEVER hired a guy before that has done gay for pay that I have known about.

Key words being, that you knew about. There are a lot of guys riding both sides of the fence. I never knew how many guys there were until I got into the gay and shemale side of the business and started working with models in the niche. It was a real eye opener. I'd wager no less than 1/2 of your "straight" guys in the business are at the very least sucking tranny cock in their private life, and no one knows about it.

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Originally Posted by amacontent

Maybe the more these cases pop up the more girls will NOT screw guys who do bareback gay. I don't know. I would be more than happy to be part of the solution than part of the discussion.

Yea, but how about the girls who bareback clients while escorting? Lots of clients are bi-sexual. In fact, usually every guy who is into shemales also digs girls. So these girls are barebacking clients who no doubt also bareback shemales. So long as the girls are escorting, it is just as risky as working with guys who are gay for pay, or bi in their private life.

I honestly don't know how you close that hole and keep everyone safe. How do you police someone who engages in risky behavior in secret, then shows up on set the next day? That's a tough one. But I don't think it's possible. It will come down to doing the best you can with what you have and hope for the best.

Robbie · 09-11-2013, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by marcop

I'm not sure where you got the "through the roof" information, but I've read otherwise, : Health Plan Cost for New Yorkers Set to Fall 50%:

I too have read that New York insurance rates went down.

But here in Vegas? Mine are THROUGH THE ROOF. lol

And in California I read that they are going up by 100%.

And it's not "disinformation", it's me looking at my insurance premiums. Notice in my post I didn't talk about "in general"...though it has already been shown that it has raised most insurance premiums across the country.

Anyway...don't want to argue the point. I have no choice but to pay my insurance premiums.

I just hope that when the rest of it FINALLY (if ever) goes online, that it will bring them back down. It's supposed to be "The Affordable Health Care" law.

But the way they keep putting it off: Obama delayed it for big business, the unions are trying to get it pushed back too, Congress gave itself a subsidy that we regular citizens don't get for themselves, their family, and all their staff...I don't know if it's ever gonna fully be implemented fairly.

PornoMonster · 09-11-2013, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by marcop

I'm not sure where you got the "through the roof" information, but I've read otherwise, : Health Plan Cost for New Yorkers Set to Fall 50%: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/17/he...anted=all&_r=0; and here on CNN, Study says not to expect Obamacare premium spike: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...iref=allsearch. It seems that like Rick in Casablanca you've been misinformend.

What I like about the NY Times and CNN is that they just report the news and let me decide.

4 States will see reduced costs. Reason is Most of these states already did the things Obama care calls for, so the Forced added Healthy people will reduce the others Premiums
New York is the biggest one for this..

DWB · 09-11-2013, 05:33 PM

This is why it doesn't matter if there isn't a 4th performer or not, or even a 5th one, or if it was caught on set or not. This is what the world sees:

You guys can stand on the top of the Aon Center and shout that it's all not true until blood shoots from your mouth, but it won't matter with headlines like that.

Robbie · 09-11-2013, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB

This is why it doesn't matter if there isn't a 4th performer or not, or even a 5th one, or if it was caught on set or not. This is what the world sees:

You guys can stand on the top of the Aon Center and shout that it's all not true until blood shoots from your mouth, but it won't matter with headlines like that.

That's the truth. The media is just looking for ratings...and that kind of headline would sell.

Thank goodness for the "Crisis in Syria" hogging up all the headlines.

DWB · 09-11-2013, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Thank goodness for the "Crisis in Syria" hogging up all the headlines.

#truth

As soon as the missiles start hitting Syria, this HIV issue will vanish from the media.

marcop · 09-11-2013, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

That's the truth. The media is just looking for ratings...and that kind of headline would sell.

Thank goodness for the "Crisis in Syria" hogging up all the headlines.

I see that the BENGHAZI thing has been reviving recently too.

amacontent · 09-11-2013, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB

Key words being, that you knew about. There are a lot of guys riding both sides of the fence. I never knew how many guys there were until I got into the gay and shemale side of the business and started working with models in the niche. It was a real eye opener. I'd wager no less than 1/2 of your "straight" guys in the business are at the very least sucking tranny cock in their private life, and no one knows about it.

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That is the key word KNOW ABOUT you have to start somewhere. If you know the stove is hot don't touch it. If you get burned knowing the stove is hot don't ask me to chip in and pay for your ointment. My whole point was about KNOWINGLY fucking someone who does gay porn. That's Russian roulette with 5 bullets instead of one.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 09-11-2013, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

ADG, I suggest you stay the fuck out of my personal business.

Or next time I see you, it won't be pretty.

Didn't realize I was getting into your personal business when I asked whether or not Claudia Marie is honoring the moratorium, and whether she is still escorting while the moratorium is in place.

To me, that is one of the questions the industry needs to ask. If people are not honoring the moratorium, or are escorting to earn income during the moratorium, that raises many issues for the adult industry.

Not sure how my question puts you in a bad spotlight, since only you know the answer to those questions, and apparently choose not to answer them.

Other than that, you are open about Claudia escorting, so I did not say that to show Claudia Marie in a bad light. Like you, I think prostitution should be legalized (although I probably think it should be regulated more than you).

I simply did so to raise another important issue confronting this industry, and that is how escorting adds risk to the equation, since unlike tested industry talent, most John's are untested, and probably less likely as concerned about their health and hygiene than the average adult performer (with the pro performers I have hired, they usually arrive fresh and clean, and then they clean up more before their scene).

Anyway, nothing personal directed towards you or Claudia Marie. I apologize if you took it that way.

My main objective in this thread was to keep the HIV issue on Page 1, while others wish it would die away, by asking hard questions; hopefully to get some answers, but also to stir debate and get people to start asking themselves some serious questions that impact us in many more ways than just our pocketbooks.

I am deeply disappointed with anyone in the industry attacking any of the people who have contracted HIV, and Cameron Bay in particular. I don't care how much testosterone you take Robbie (and I mean that as a sarcastic joke, so don't have roid rage, lol), Cameron Bay has bigger balls than you or anyone else in this industry for how she has owned up to her illness, and how she is dealing with it.

If you are forced to take pills daily to keep HIV in check, your life is changed forever.

I have been trying to put a human face to HIV, in the hopes that each and every person, no matter what their role is in the adult industry, does take people getting infected with HIV in our industry personally.

I've spent most of my adult life living here in the Bay Area, Ground Zero for HIV and AIDS.

Over the years I have lost over a dozen friends to AIDS, most in the late 80's and early 90's, including a couple of dear friends. Perhaps that does make me extra sensitive about this issue.

I'm happy that better treatments are now available, and I don't have to visit friends in hospices as often, or attend as many funerals as I had to in the early days of HIV/AIDS.

There is nothing I would like better than to see a cure to such a dreadful disease. We're in the adult industry, so we celebrate sex. How tragic that undiagnosed and untreated, HIV/AIDS can kill you.

Dislike my if you wish to Robbie. We're similar in many ways (although you are more Keith Richards, and I am more John Lennon). I mean that with regards to how we are both passionate independents in this industry, who pretty much speak our minds, and try to be honest and ethical when we do so.

I hope on the issues which we do agree about, you'll continue to stand shoulder to shoulder with me (piracy, etc).

I'll end this thread with a post from the Cameron Bay HIV Medical Fund:

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Some chick in SF $25.00

Dear Cameron,

I don't know you, but I wanted to reach out and tell you that I am rooting for you, and see you as a brave, fun, sexually liberated soul with a tough road ahead.

I sincerely hope that your fellow man does not make it harder by casting judgement or ostracizing you. I hope people step up, especially those in the industry, and show you immense love and kindness to give you that boost your spirit and wallet need right now.

Sex is great. Porn is great. It's a tragedy that there is a virus that is spread by something as awesome as fucking...but that's all that it is: a virus. It has nothing to do with you as a person.

Remember that.

Some advice:

- Read some Eckhart Tolle

- Don't get too caught up in social media; turn it off if it's becoming a negative force.

- Continue to be candid and honest about this experience - it's fucking refreshing and will continue to destigmatize Poz people.

- Educate the haters - a lot of people judge Poz people because they are seriously misinformed.

- Exercise. For your sanity and vanity.

- Listen to good music - as Bob Marley says, "the one good thing about music, when it hits you feel no pain."

- Lean on your gays - no one understands and doesn't judge what you're going through more than gay men.

- Laugh. Smile. Cry. Travel. Eat Tacos. Breathe. Etc

- Don't do anything self destructive. This is not a death sentence by any means. You are going to be around for a looooooong time, so don't switch into "I have nothing to live for" mode. It's a marathon, not a sprint.

- Lastly - for real - move to San Francisco. You will never find a city that is more well accommodated financially, spiritually and emotionally for people living with HIV. The services available for no or low cost here are unlike any other place on the planet.

All the best. Much love,

"Some chick in SF”

Peace and Love

ADG

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 09-12-2013, 01:09 AM

The Porn Valley Mexican Stand-Off...Continues

According to the FSC/PASS site, the FSC was supposed to meet Tuesday about patient #3 exposure re-tests, and to decide what steps to take next, such as lifting or extending the production moratorium, which was announced as a result of HIV+ #3 (even though the FSC initially said HIV+ #3 never worked in the industry - kind of begs the question as to who is being re-tested if HIV+ #3 never worked with anyone after testing positive).

Meanwhile, Weinstein of the AHF claims to know of a 4th HIV+ case, which the FSC is vehemently denying. Perhaps Weinstein is waiting on the FSC to make their announcement first so he can spring a "gotcha" on them. Otherwise, he is lying about a rather serious matter.

One thing is known, Public Health officials have to be notified by the testing clinic within 7 days of any HIV+ results, so we'll find out soon enough who is telling the truth this time (although both the FSC/AHF are masters of double-talk spin control deception).

Surprised no one has made "Not Rebel Without A Cause XXX" starring James Deen yet.

ADG

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 09-12-2013, 10:36 AM

NEW NEWS: An extension of the adult industry production moratorium was announced by PASS today:

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Despite the fact that none of the three recent cases resulted from on-set exposure, the doctors have elected to conduct additional investigative work prior to lifting the moratorium.

While the third performer?s positive test is not linked to Mr. Daily or Ms. Bay in the workplace, we?re investigating to see if there was possible personal contact and if other people who perform in the industry were exposed privately.

While we realize companies are struggling under the moratorium, our first priority must be establishing the safety of the workplace for our performers. This work will take at least until the end of the week and more likely into the first part of next week to complete. Once the physicians involved have established that no other performers were exposed, and that there is no risk of additional exposure, they will meet again and discuss the conditions and dates for lifting the moratorium.

In the meantime, as an industry, we should give what support we can to Ms. Bay, Mr. Daily and the third affected performer. No matter how it was contracted, they are members of our community and deserve our compassion, and respect for coming forward and helping to identify anyone who might have been exposed.

The California State legislature may vote on AB640 today, making condoms mandatory statewide, as early as today.

Cameron Bay was interviewed for an article which went into detail about her case:

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After having sex with five men in her first porn scene, Bay got a kidney infection and was sick for weeks. She shot all but one of her scenes in LA for Hustler, Zero Tolerance and 21st Sextury. The only scene not shot in LA was her last scene, shot on July 31 for Kink.com in San Francisco, where the company is based. It's also the only time she shot BDSM (Bondage, Domination, Sadism and Masochism) and anal sex.

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During the scene, a male extra hit Bay too hard on set and badly injured her left-breast tissue. Kink.com paid for her hospital visit through workers compensation, and her doctor ordered her not to work for two weeks so that her breast could recover, Bay said. The surgery she needs on her breast, which is artificially enlarged, has now been postponed -- possibly permanently -- because she has HIV.

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In the same shoot, there was a separate incident when "really, really bad stuff" happened on set, Bay said. "Let's just say there was an incident, and we should have stopped shooting," she said, declining to give more details. "Very poor decisions by a few of us."

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When Bay found out she had HIV on Aug. 21, a moratorium was placed on porn shooting in LA. Unlike her breast injury, her HIV contraction is impossible to definitely tie to any one shoot so she has to pay for her expensive medication on her own. Without health insurance, she's not sure how she's going to afford it. Most porn performers do not have benefits.

The pills she needs to temper her HIV -- which already left her with severe flu-like symptoms for a week -- cost $2,000 for 30 days worth. "I spent more in one day on medical stuff than I did on rent for two months," she said. "I had a safety net of three months of not working and that cut into it a lot."

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Bay's last negative HIV test was on July 26, which cleared her to perform until Aug. 26. But she said she decided to get tested early on Aug. 19 because she heard a performer she had worked with had hepatitis C. That's when Bay was blindsided by the news that she had HIV.

"Thank God I went in when I did for hep C. I was scheduled to shoot," she said. "I could've been giving people HIV and had no idea."

That reality makes Bay believe that the system isn't working. Instead of being tested every 30 days, she said performers should be tested on set, before every shoot. Otherwise, she said, a performer could contract an STD after a clean test and still be good for 30 days.

Six days after Bay tested positive for HIV, the Free Speech Coalition, which oversees a database of all performers' STD tests, lifted the moratorium, saying that all performers who worked with Bay tested clean.

A week after the moratorium was lifted and porn shooting had resumed, Bay's boyfriend -- Rod Daily, a performer in gay porn -- announced that he also tested positive for HIV. Bay and Daily never performed on set together, but they have publicly been in a romantic relationship for two years. Neither of them can be sure how they contracted the virus.

Two days after Daily said he was HIV-positive, a third performer tested positive on Friday, prompting the FSC to re-impose the moratorium. The fact that two performers tested positive after the moratorium was lifted led some -- including Bay -- to say that the moratorium should have been in place longer.

Bay said she hopes that more performers in the industry will become educated about the risks so they can make informed decisions. "Education is power. I've done more reading in the past couple weeks than I have since high school," she said.

She said that if she had done her research prior to going on set, she would have asked producers for a condom each time and walked off the set if she was refused.

"Because at the end of the day, it's about your safety. And a piece of paper that says you're clear to shoot doesn't mean anything."

Cameron Bay HIV Medical Fund: https://www.giveforward.com/fundrais...v-medical-fund

ADG

pornlaw · 09-12-2013, 10:55 AM

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The California State legislature may vote on AB640 today, making condoms mandatory statewide, as early as today. :-)

And that's the problem.. Under CCR 5193 they already are mandatory statewide. Do we need two laws to say the same thing??

DWB · 09-12-2013, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by amacontent

That is the key word KNOW ABOUT you have to start somewhere. If you know the stove is hot don't touch it. If you get burned knowing the stove is hot don't ask me to chip in and pay for your ointment. My whole point was about KNOWINGLY fucking someone who does gay porn. That's Russian roulette with 5 bullets instead of one.

You gotta assume they all do, because a lot of them do.

Robbie · 09-12-2013, 11:16 AM

I don't get it...the LAW says that under Obama Care that insurance companies have to pay for the HIV meds.

The new one a day pill shouldn't make her sick at all.

Just doesn't add up right to me. Somebody is not giving her proper medical advice and insurance advice.

Even here in Vegas you can pretty much go to the LGBT and get all this stuff for free. Not sure why this girl is paying like that...unless the AHF other anti-porn people are "guiding" her.

I can't even fathom why someone would be publicly announcing that they have a fever and are in the hospital unless they are being manipulated?

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 09-12-2013, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by pornlaw

And that's the problem.. Under CCR 5193 they already are mandatory statewide. Do we need two laws to say the same thing??

That's probably the first time that has ever happened.

If you read the text of AB640, it refers to CCR 5193 several times, so it appears that the legislators are trying to make a law specific to the adult industry:

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AB 640, as amended, Hall.

Occupational Safety and Health: Adult Films.

The California Occupational Safety and Health Act of 1973 establishes certain safety and other responsibilities of employers and employees. Violations of the act under certain circumstances are a crime.

This bill would require an employer engaged in the production of an adult film to adopt prescribed practices and procedures to protect employees from exposure to, and infection by, sexually transmitted diseases, including engineering and work practice controls, an exposure control plan, hepatitis B vaccinations, medical monitoring, and information and training on health and safety.

The bill would define terms for those purposes. Because a violation of the act would be a crime under certain circumstances, the bill would impose a state-mandated local program by creating a new crime.

This bill would provide that its provisions are severable.

The California Constitution requires the state to reimburse local agencies and school districts for certain costs mandated by the state. Statutory provisions establish procedures for making that reimbursement.

This bill would provide that no reimbursement is required by this act for a specified reason.

This bill would declare that it is to take effect immediately as an urgency statute.

DIGEST KEY
Vote: majority2/3 Appropriation: no Fiscal Committee: yes Local Program: yes

BILL TEXT:

THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA DO ENACT AS FOLLOWS:

SECTION 1. Section 6720 is added to the Labor Code, to read:

6720. (a) The Legislature finds and declares that the protection of workers in the adult film industry is the responsibility of multiple layers of government, with the department being responsible for worker safety and the county being responsible for protecting the public health. Therefore, this section shall not be construed to prohibit a city, county, or city and county from implementing a local ordinance regulating the adult film industry, provided that nothing in the local ordinance contradicts any provision of this section.

(b) For purposes of this section, the following definitions shall apply:

(1) ?Adult film? means any commercial film, video, multimedia, or other recorded representation during the production of which performers actually engage in sexual intercourse, including oral, vaginal, or anal penetration.

(2) ?Employee? means a person who is an employee or independent contractor, regardless of whether the person is shown in the adult film, who, during the production of the adult film, performs sexual intercourse, including oral, vaginal, or anal penetration.

(3) ?Employer? means a company, partnership, corporation, or individual engaged in the production of an adult film. There shall be a rebuttable presumption that the name on the material for commercial distribution is the employer unless there is evidence to the contrary as demonstrated through contractual or employment records.

(4) ?Sexually transmitted disease? or ?STD? means any infection commonly spread by sexual conduct, including, but not limited to, HIV/AIDS, gonorrhea, syphilis, chlamydia, hepatitis, genital human papillomavirus infection, and genital herpes.

(c) An employer shall maintain engineering and work practice controls sufficient to protect employees from exposure to blood and any potentially infectious materials, in accordance with Section 5193 of Title 8 of the California Code of Regulations. Engineering and work practice controls shall include, but are not limited to, the following:

(1) Simulation of sex acts using acting, production, and postproduction techniques.
(2) Provision of and required use of condoms and other protective barriers whenever acts of vaginal or anal intercourse are filmed.
(3) The provision of condom-safe water-based or silicone-based lubricants to facilitate the use of condoms.
(4) Plastic and other disposable materials to clean up sets.
(5) Sharps containers for disposal of contaminated sharps, including, but not limited to, any blades, wires, or broken glass.

(d) An employer shall maintain an exposure control plan in accordance with Section 5193 of Title 8 of the California Code of Regulations. An employer shall not be required to comply with any provision related to establishing and maintaining a sharps injury log, or any provision regarding regulated waste.

(e) An employer shall make available the hepatitis B vaccination and all medical followup required by Section 5193 of Title 8 of the California Code of Regulations, for any employee engaged in the production of adult films, at the employer?s expense.

(f) An employer shall designate a custodian of records for purposes of this section. A copy of the original production shall be retained by the custodian of records.

(g) An employer shall pay the costs of required medical monitoring, such as STD testing, and keep confidential employee records.

(h) (1) An employer shall adopt, implement, maintain, and update, as required, a written health and safety program that meets the requirements of the Injury and Illness Prevention Program and the bloodborne pathogens standard, described, respectively, in Sections 3203 and 5193 of Title 8 of the California Code of Regulations.

(2) An employer shall provide a training program in accordance with Section 5193 of Title 8 of the California Code of Regulations. The training requirements of this subdivision may be satisfied by proof that the employee has received appropriate training at another workplace or from an appropriate third party approved by the department in the prior 12 months.

(i) This section shall not be construed to require condoms, barriers, or other personal protective equipment to be visible in the final product of an adult film.

(j) The Legislature finds and declares that screening for STDs is a critical public health measure and should be employed wherever possible, including the adult film industry. Therefore, this section shall not be construed to impede or replace STD screening of all employees, as defined in paragraph (2) of subdivision (b), pursuant to STD screening protocols established by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the State Department of Public Health, and the public health department in the county where the filming occurs.

SEC. 2. The provisions of this act are severable. If any provision of this act or its application is held invalid, that invalidity shall not affect other provisions or applications that can be given effect without the invalid provision or application.

SEC. 3 No reimbursement is required by this act pursuant to Section 6 of Article XIII B of the California Constitution because the only costs that may be incurred by a local agency or school district will be incurred because this act creates a new crime or infraction, eliminates a crime or infraction, or changes the penalty for a crime or infraction, within the meaning of Section 17556 of the Government Code, or changes the definition of a crime within the meaning of Section 6 of Article XIII B of the California Constitution.

SEC. 4. This act is an urgency statute necessary for the immediate preservation of the public peace, health, or safety within the meaning of Article IV of the Constitution and shall go into immediate effect.

The facts constituting the necessity are:
In order to protect workers in the adult film industry from an imminent threat to public health as soon as possible, it is necessary that this act take effect immediately.

ADG

Grapesoda · 09-12-2013, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by amacontent

I have NEVER hired a guy before that has done gay for pay that I have known about. If I know a guy has done gay. I NEVER hired him. It was a precautionary measure on my point
And it was my choice. Obviously I hired some that had done gay before that I didnt know about. That was their choice. I have complete compassion for anyone that contracts this aweful disease. BUT im not about to contribute to someone who knowingly put themselves and others in harms way. I am more apt to contributed to another female or male performer that has contatcted HIV from the ground zero patient. I know lots of people do all kinds of drugs, and interacts with talent who plays both sides of the fence..and they know VERY WELL what can happen because of it. Right or wrong that is my opinion. I hope all parties are well and receive my best wishes.

As far as me contracting HIV when I was doing BG sets.. I know the risk is there every time I shot. I to this day think porn is the safest way to have unprotected sex. The tests may not be flawless.. but is there anything in life flawless. Im not gonna compare apples and oranges .. but every time I ref a hockey game there is always the chance I fall and break my neck. Do I know the risks.. yes Do I still work yes.

Is there an answer for this mess.. who knows.. probably never gonna be perfect. Maybe an answer is a blanket insurance company where the powers to be in the porn biz come up with some plan to insure people. Maybe the more these cases pop up the more girls will NOT screw guys who do bareback gay. I don't know. I would be more than happy to be part of the solution than part of the discussion.

I won't use the tranny fucker either

DWB · 09-12-2013, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda

I won't use the tranny fucker either

Question... if you guys avoid guys who openly work in the gay or tranny side of the business, how do you deal with girls who work with these guys and shemales on other shoots? Are they avoided as well? Seems to be a lot of girls working with shemales these days.

RevSand · 09-12-2013, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

I don't get it...the LAW says that under Obama Care that insurance companies have to pay for the HIV meds.

The new one a day pill shouldn't make her sick at all.

Just doesn't add up right to me. Somebody is not giving her proper medical advice and insurance advice.

Even here in Vegas you can pretty much go to the LGBT and get all this stuff for free. Not sure why this girl is paying like that...unless the AHF other anti-porn people are "guiding" her.

I can't even fathom why someone would be publicly announcing that they have a fever and are in the hospital unless they are being manipulated?

LIVE discussion on LGBT and Obamacare is happening RIGHT now.. http://www.whitehouse.gov/live

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 09-12-2013, 12:24 PM

Rob Black vs Mike South

A novel fundraising idea:

Porn pundits Mike South and Rob Black like to mix it up on occasion, and the current HIIV situation brought them together (to fight each other) once again, except this time something actually good may come from it.

Mike South has challenged Rob Black to put his money where his mouth is to show his support for the three recently confirmed adult industry HIV+ cases by making a financial donation, which South said that he will match:

Quote:

To shut Mr. Black up, I?d be happy to donate to a fund for Cameron Bay, Rod Daily and the 3rd yet to be named patient.

Rob said he?s a believer in ?charity begins at home?? Well, here?s his chance to put his money where his mouth is. As of today, (Sept. 11th) I?ll match dollar for dollar whatever he personally wants to donate to the fund? But in return, I beg him to please just shut up.

Well, looks like Mike bought himself an easy out by making the condition that Rob STFU - that's about as likely as Michael Weinstein and Diane Duke doing a bareback anal scene (although that would probably generate a lot of sales).

Quote:

To Rob? lemme know how much you decide to donate. We?ll take the checks down to the bank together and get the talent the help they need.

Quote:

Here is the personal donation page of Cameron Bay:

http://www.giveforward.com/fundraise...v-medical-fund

To date, neither man has donated a penny to Cameron. It would be a shame if they both were doing this for the sole purpose of exploiting this issue to generate eyeballs for their respective online rags.

ADG

pornlaw · 09-12-2013, 01:03 PM

@AsianDiva - CalOSHA already has new language for 5193 that is industry specific that is being sent to FedOSHA for approval this month.

AB640 is nothing more than political and fundraising grandstanding. No one is going to enforce this just as they dont bother to enforce Measure B in LA County.

CalOSHA is the department that has authority over workplace safety. When Weinstein didnt get the unwavering support he wanted for his pet project from CalOSHA he found Hall and paid him some money. Hall must think this will take him national and keeps trying to pass an unnecessary bill. Most the legislators know its wasteful. I suspect thats why his first one died in committee.

He finally got this one to a vote but Jerry Brown has former ties to the industry so it will be interesting to see what he does with this.

mikesouth · 09-12-2013, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Rob Black vs Mike South

A novel fundraising idea:

Porn pundits Mike South and Rob Black like to mix it up on occasion, and the current HIIV situation brought them together (to fight each other) once again, except this time something actually good may come from it.

Mike South has challenged Rob Black to put his money where his mouth is to show his support for the three recently confirmed adult industry HIV+ cases by making a financial donation, which South said that he will match:

Well, looks like Mike bought himself an easy out by making the condition that Rob STFU - that's about as likely as Michael Weinstein and Diane Duke doing a bareback anal scene (although that would probably generate a lot of sales).

To date, neither man has donated a penny to Cameron. It would be a shame if they both were doing this for the sole purpose of exploiting this issue to generate eyeballs for their respective online rags.

ADG

sorry bro that was a reader mail from Brad Armstrong....I generally ignore Rob Black, he lacks the common sense and the credibility to be worthy of my time ;)

marcop · 09-12-2013, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

I won't use the tranny fucker either

Is this a reference to the male talent whose name is the same as the name of one of the world's major religions?

RevSand · 09-12-2013, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marcop

Is this a reference to the male talent whose name is the same as the name of one of the world's major religions?

hmmm wonder who that is?!?

JustDaveXxx · 09-12-2013, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth

sorry bro that was a reader mail from Brad Armstrong....I generally ignore Rob Black, he lacks the common sense and the credibility to be worthy of my time ;)

Brad is good people.

OHHH man!! That Crack head Black!! This guy is on another level of stupidity.

He has a few good ideas, but nobody will ever get past the his attacks on everyone in the adult biz.

And he makes a big deal about getting free testing. Somebody should ask him what kind of tests he is getting for free. And what good is free if it takes 2 weeks to get back?

This business is falling apart at the seems.

Just Dave

Robbie · 09-12-2013, 07:09 PM

Here in Vegas they do free testing at LBGT.

I've never done that because we have a standing order from our personal physician at Lab Corp. Cost is $59

But IF you went for the free testing here...most days of the month they do the "2 weeks" to get the results. But one day a month they do the rapid hiv test:

September 19 — 10:30 a.m. - 12:30 p.m., 1:30 p.m. - 5 p.m. (subject to change)
Gay and Lesbian Center of Southern Nevada
Free Rapid HIV Testing / STD Screenings / Hepatitis A & B Vaccines
401 S. Maryland Pkwy.
Las Vegas, NV 89101
Call 733-9800 for more information.

There's also what looks to be a Boxing gym that does it for free all month long:

1 p.m. - 5 p.m.
Richard Steele Boxing
Free Rapid HIV Testing / STD Screening
2475 W. Cheyenne Ave.
North Las Vegas, NV 89032
Call 638-1308 for more information.

That's just 2 of the ones I found here by googling.

I prefer to use Lab Corp (the same company that does blood work nationwide every time any of you go to the doctor and need blood tests done).

We found out how much the price was jacked up by AIM and TTS in the past when my doctor sent me there to get blood drawn. I was telling the nurse what we did for a living and said that Claudia Marie had to test every month and it was $130 PLUS the fee for whomever did the draw.

The people at Lab Corp were shocked. They told me we were getting screwed hard and showed me the cost of the test. Told me to just go to my doctor and get an order for it.

So we did.

I never plan on having CM test with one of those "industry" testing places again. I have no desire to get ripped off and/or have her medical records floating around for everyone to see.

RevSand · 09-12-2013, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx

And he makes a big deal about getting free testing. Somebody should ask him what kind of tests he is getting for free. And what good is free if it takes 2 weeks to get back?

This business is falling apart at the seems.

Just Dave

The tests he is promising are from AHF.. They have promised him those and free medical exam for talent.

Can you say jumping from pot into the fire?

Profits of Doom · 09-12-2013, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx

Brad is good people.

OHHH man!! That Crack head Black!! This guy is on another level of stupidity.

He has a few good ideas, but nobody will ever get past the his attacks on everyone in the adult biz.

And he makes a big deal about getting free testing. Somebody should ask him what kind of tests he is getting for free. And what good is free if it takes 2 weeks to get back?

This business is falling apart at the seems.

Just Dave

Holy shit, if that picture above is what Rob looks like now he needs to be tested himself. I dealt with Rob a lot back in 2000 when he was running his pro wrestling company, XPW, and he was nowhere near that skinny. What happened to him?

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 09-12-2013, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RevSand

The tests he is promising are from AHF.. They have promised him those and free medical exam for talent.

Can you say jumping from pot into the fire?

Hmmm...

If the industry is forced to go condom only, and continues with testing (as I feel it should), then why not partner up with AHF as a educational/safe-sex partner if they are willing to make testing more affordable for performers?

Then the adult trade organization representing the organization could serve the industry better as an independent industry watchdog (if we co-pay for testing, a small % could go to the industry watchdog group to underwrite education and other efforts within the industry).

Of course, that is dependent upon AHF being open to working with us in earnest towards a mutual goal of safe and healthy adult entertainment.

AHF can focus on what they do best, the safe, while we focus on what we do best, the sex.

Win-Win-Win, war is over (if you want it)...

ADG

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 09-12-2013, 09:44 PM

Major National News Coverage:

Quote:

HIV Outbreak Shuts Down Porn Industry

Three/Four adult film performers have tested positive for HIV since August, prompting California’s pornographic video producers to temporarily cease production, and spurring further calls from AIDS advocates to make condoms mandatory in adult films.

What do you think?

Here is what America had to say:

Quote:

“I hope they come back soon, because I’m almost completely caught up on porn.”

Grover Platt –
Candy Dipper

Quote:

“Condoms should absolutely be mandatory. Also ball gags.”

Thomas Bogart –
Chandelier Maker

Quote:

“I just hope those cock-starved coeds are able to find the sustenance they need.”

Beth Whittier –
Turbine Assembler

Remember, watch what you say, because America is watching...(porn)

ADG

KellyPierce · 09-13-2013, 09:51 AM

Can I just say it annoys me trans performers get lumped in with Gay Performers.

We test just as hard as the mainstream industry and we use CONDOMS almost every time!

NONE.. NOT ONE US Transsexual PERFORMER has EVER BEEN ON the list!!

So why you guys point your fingers at US I have no clue!

It's always been the gay for pay or female actresses that turn up with it.

Not to mention SEX IN GENERAL IS NEVER going to be 100% safe! If you believe that you are delusional!

There are agencies that escort their girls out to the highest bidder and the client will fuck them raw! To deny that again delusional!

Everyone loves to point fingers, but doesn't point fingers at their own unsafe way of doing things!

Porn perfomers have personal lives and a shit load escort..28 days to me is too long of time!

Every 15 days should be put in place!

The moratorium was not long enough the first time making us look horrendous to the mainstream media!

Then on top of it you had producers in Arizona and other places not following the moratorium convincing performers to come their way to shoot!

It needs to be a group effort to keep our asses off the chopping block! Instead of working apart we should work together. The gay industry should be HELD to the SAME standards! It should be UNIVERSAL!

I personally work only with my husband or if we do threesomes I google the shit out of the performers name so I know who and what SHE is about.

I think performers should have to sign a contract or admit to the company/performer she is working with that they escort.

Escorts can complain all they want, but when you are having sex with 1 to 10 different guys daily your chance of infection SIGNIFICANTLY goes up!

FYI though OUR STANDARDS OF TESTING IN THE US TRANSSEXUAL NICHE is the SAME AS YOURS and we almost ALWAYS USE A CONDOM.. Companies like GROOBY expect you to use a condom.

So why we get mixed into the gay side I WILL NEVER know besides the fact we both have the same downstairs!

FYI GAY MEN ARE NOT ATTRACTED TO TRANSSEXUALS! WHY?? Because they look like women! They have tits!

They want MEN like many of the men posting in this thread.

If we want change!!

Then we as an industry as a WHOLE need to come together!

None of this straight vs gay vs trans vs crossover crap

We should all have the same standard of testing!

I know some of the companies in the gay niche do condom only no testing..that should be illegal and abolished!

As well when they call a moratorium we all halt in every state! In case a traveling performer so happens to have it!

Otherwise we are going to get our asses handed to use every single time!

TurboAngel · 09-13-2013, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

But I'm not a nice guy like Dan is. .

I disagree with you I met you both and Dan isn't a nice guy.

Grapesoda · 09-13-2013, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marcop

Is this a reference to the male talent whose name is the same as the name of one of the world's major religions?

yes...

Grapesoda · 09-13-2013, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KellyPierce

Can I just say it annoys me trans performers get lumped in with Gay Performers.

We test just as hard as the mainstream industry and we use CONDOMS almost every time!

NONE.. NOT ONE US Transsexual PERFORMER has EVER BEEN ON the list!!

So why you guys point your fingers at US I have no clue!

It's always been the gay for pay or female actresses that turn up with it.

Not to mention SEX IN GENERAL IS NEVER going to be 100% safe! If you believe that you are delusional!

There are agencies that escort their girls out to the highest bidder and the client will fuck them raw! To deny that again delusional!

Everyone loves to point fingers, but doesn't point fingers at their own unsafe way of doing things!

Porn perfomers have personal lives and a shit load escort..28 days to me is too long of time!

Every 15 days should be put in place!

The moratorium was not long enough the first time making us look horrendous to the mainstream media!

Then on top of it you had producers in Arizona and other places not following the moratorium convincing performers to come their way to shoot!

It needs to be a group effort to keep our asses off the chopping block! Instead of working apart we should work together. The gay industry should be HELD to the SAME standards! It should be UNIVERSAL!

I personally work only with my husband or if we do threesomes I google the shit out of the performers name so I know who and what SHE is about.

I think performers should have to sign a contract or admit to the company/performer she is working with that they escort.

Escorts can complain all they want, but when you are having sex with 1 to 10 different guys daily your chance of infection SIGNIFICANTLY goes up!

FYI though OUR STANDARDS OF TESTING IN THE US TRANSSEXUAL NICHE is the SAME AS YOURS and we almost ALWAYS USE A CONDOM.. Companies like GROOBY expect you to use a condom.

So why we get mixed into the gay side I WILL NEVER know besides the fact we both have the same downstairs!

FYI GAY MEN ARE NOT ATTRACTED TO TRANSSEXUALS! WHY?? Because they look like women! They have tits!

They want MEN like many of the men posting in this thread.

If we want change!!

Then we as an industry as a WHOLE need to come together!

None of this straight vs gay vs trans vs crossover crap

We should all have the same standard of testing!

I know some of the companies in the gay niche do condom only no testing..that should be illegal and abolished!

As well when they call a moratorium we all halt in every state! In case a traveling performer so happens to have it!

Otherwise we are going to get our asses handed to use every single time!

no one here is against you in any way... we are all just in the business together doing the best we can... when I'm told that a male performer is engaged in risky behavior I don't use them.. I don't need issues on set... so I bring the 'mentioned boy' and shazzam... the model refuses to work with that boy due to his activities and suddenly I have an issue on set... yes bring the industries together ... no problem however don't punish the str8 side for gay side issues... the moratorium was fine the first time.. the 3rd woman is positive from her personal life and did NOT get back into the industry... in fact word is she is, or was, fuck buddies with the other 2 positives off camera in AZ in her personal life... and I should we punished/targeted for that?

btw I don't see hiv as a gay/tranny issue.... I see hiv as an ANAL issue

KellyPierce · 09-13-2013, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

no one here is against you in any way... we are all just in the business together doing the best we can... when I'm told that a male performer is engaged in risky behavior I don't use them.. I don't need issues on set... so I bring the 'mentioned boy' and shazzam... the model refuses to work with that boy dues to his activities and suddenly I have an issue on set... yes bring the industries together ... no problem however don't punish the str8 side for gay side issues...

Have you seen Cameron Bay's wrap sheet?

Her drug use?

Look at the the real porn wiki leaks

She could of easily picked it up being irresponsible.

Not just from Rod Daily.

She escorts, does glory hole scenes with untested individuals the list goes on

And I am well aware of the plague that is there on "crossover"

It just annoys me when transsexual performers are mixed in with the gay industry.

Rod Daily was honest and he didn't throw the industry under the bus like Miss Cameron did in her new huff post article.

She is an adult performer she should take accountability for her actions.

Notice she mentioned nothing in the article of her hardcore drug use and/or personal life.

She kept it focused on she was the victim and if she knew what knows now she'd of always demanded a condom.

Eluding to the mainstream it's the porn industry.

Then she says she still wants to do solo scenes and that she regrets being the poster child because now no partners will work with her. I was shocked by that as if she was saying she'd still perform on the down low.

It's a doozey

http://thereal*************.com/huff...embarrassment/

Grapesoda · 09-13-2013, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KellyPierce

Have you seen Cameron Bay's wrap sheet?

Her drug use?

Look at the the real porn wiki leaks

She could of easily picked it up being irresponsible.

Not just from Rod Daily.

She escorts, does glory hole scenes with untested individuals the list goes on

And I am well aware of the plague that is there on "crossover"

It just annoys me when transsexual performers are mixed in with the gay industry.

look nothing against you... yes all of those knuckleheads are problematic and should not be in the biz..

I get annoyed when AHF make up total fabrications and release them as fact and the fucktards here at GFY, that AREN'T even in the biz, run with them like it's true and the NBC picks it up like it's true..

no producers I know will shoot her

Robbie · 09-13-2013, 10:58 AM

Aaaah, so now the poor "victim" Cameron Bay is blaming it all on the porn industry.

How predictable. Maybe ADG will rush over to give even more money to her "fund".

Oh wait...there will be no need for that. The Anti-Porn people are going to help her make money while she is of value to them.

I'd like to make an analogy:

I hire 2 carpenters to work on my home.
After work they go and do some carpentry on their own home. They get hurt.
And now I get blamed for it because I was nice enough to have given them a job to make a living.

That scenario would NEVER happen in the "real" world.
But somehow, here in porn...it does.

billywatson · 09-13-2013, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KellyPierce

Can I just say it annoys me trans performers get lumped in with Gay Performers.

We test just as hard as the mainstream industry and we use CONDOMS almost every time!

"almost"

Grapesoda · 09-13-2013, 11:18 AM

what mess for sure...

KellyPierce · 09-13-2013, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billywatson

"almost"

Typically Evil Angel uses the no condom method with female talent and trans.

It's usually always a special case why a condom isn't used and performers are always tested right before said scene.

It's not done on an every day basis like the straight industry.

But again seeing as how not one american ts performer has been on a quarantine list and we all test heavily I think we are just as safe as YOUR "crowd".

I am probably safer than most I don't escort..I do scenes with my husband...I rarely shoot unless the pay is good enough and I always make the performer get tested right before a shoot.

So again yawn on your "sarcasm"

Grapesoda · 09-13-2013, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KellyPierce

But again seeing as how not one american ts performer has been on a quarantine list and we all test heavily I think we are just as safe as YOUR "crowd".

every infection has come from the gay side I'd like to point out and congrats on the safety and testing for the TS crowds... .I used to shoot for grooby, great guy for sure... ...

DWB · 09-13-2013, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KellyPierce

Typically Evil Angel uses the no condom method with female talent and trans.

It's usually always a special case why a condom isn't used and performers are always tested right before said scene.

Depends on the producer. That's not mandatory EA protocol.

Kudos to you for being safe all the time, but I think you're in the minority. The fact an HIV issue hasn't come from a ts yet is just luck. Some of them escort, do drugs, and have risky sex just like everyone else.

Drugs, booze, lowered inhibition, sexual people... shit happens. Doesn't matter what side of the business you work in.

RevSand · 09-13-2013, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB

Drugs, booze, lowered inhibition, sexual people... shit happens. Doesn't matter what side of the business you work in.

As you have pointed out, that will always be the issue no matter what rules are put in place.

billywatson · 09-13-2013, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KellyPierce

I am probably safer than most I don't escort..

So if an escorting ad surfaces, and you're in the ad...it's fake?

And I wasn't being sarcastic in my post. Nor disrespectful. I'm not trying to pick a fight...it's just a point I'm making.

"Almost" always means there's room for something going wrong. That's all I meant.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 09-13-2013, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Kevin Moore Breaks Moratorium Shot On Saturday
By MikeSouth
September 8th, 2013

Im sure he isn?t the only one but he sure stands out for one reason, he is with Evil Angel and Evil Angels General manager Christian Mann is on the FSC Board?.You know?the same one that called for a moratorium on shooting.

Wow of all companies to have a Director break the moratorium?.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx

Not true.

He shot on friday and was done shooting at noon. He got the Shut down news at 3pm via Email.

Kevin did not shoot on Saturday.

Hes a good friend. Known him for 9 years. He would never do anything of the sort.

He has absolute respect for this business and all of the talent in it.

Just Dave

Quote:

Interesting Thing About Kevin Moore
By MikeSouth
September 13th, 2013

Interesting?

Last week when I broke the story that he had defied the moratorium and shot on Saturday he quickly responded to everyone but me?He even told Christian Mann that he shot on Friday?.That much is true, he did shoot on Friday, but he also shot on Saturday the 7th.

I expect he didn?t respond to me because he knows I know the name of the girl he shot?.

Once again I?m sure lots of people are defying the moratorium but for one of Christian Mann's directors to do it is inexcusable?.

Hmmm...

ADG

09-11-2013, 04:50 PM	#253
Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,959	All I'm saying in my posts are that people should start using GOOGLE and research this for themselves. 1. HIV is now treatable by a single pill. That pill will reduce your viral load to ZERO. You can live a long and healthy life. 2. That pill is covered by insurance under Obama Care. Nobody needs "help" for their treatment. I have NO idea why ADG decided to make that post that is supposed to put me in a bad light. I've watched him in this thread do the same thing to Porno Dan for no reason at all. But I'm not a nice guy like Dan is. ADG isn't some faceless troll, he's a guy I've sat with...talked with...hung out with, and shook his hand. I considered him to be a friend. To try and make me look bad in a post was totally uncalled for. I hope that he calms the fuck down and re-thinks that post. Again...all I'm saying is EVERYBODY educate yourselves. I've found out things about HIV that I had NO idea about in the last few days. And most of it was a lot better than I thought it was going to be. Not saying that it's okay to catch it. Of course not. But it's not as bad as it's been made out to be either. Just google it up and start learning for yourselves. Don't listen to me. It's easily done with a few clicks. __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com

09-11-2013, 05:05 PM	#254
amacontent STANLEY CUP CHAMPION ! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,872	[QUOTE=AsianDivaGirlsWebDude;19795632So you are saying that you've never hired/fucked girls that do drugs, or that have fucked gay guys unprotected, etc? You are fucking kidding yourself. Now let's say that one of these girls had a clean test, but contracted HIV+ which was not detected, and you just happened to hire her when the infection kicked in and her HIV+ count jumped, and you were infected. ADG[/QUOTE] I have NEVER hired a guy before that has done gay for pay that I have known about. If I know a guy has done gay. I NEVER hired him. It was a precautionary measure on my point And it was my choice. Obviously I hired some that had done gay before that I didnt know about. That was their choice. I have complete compassion for anyone that contracts this aweful disease. BUT im not about to contribute to someone who knowingly put themselves and others in harms way. I am more apt to contributed to another female or male performer that has contatcted HIV from the ground zero patient. I know lots of people do all kinds of drugs, and interacts with talent who plays both sides of the fence..and they know VERY WELL what can happen because of it. Right or wrong that is my opinion. I hope all parties are well and receive my best wishes. As far as me contracting HIV when I was doing BG sets.. I know the risk is there every time I shot. I to this day think porn is the safest way to have unprotected sex. The tests may not be flawless.. but is there anything in life flawless. Im not gonna compare apples and oranges .. but every time I ref a hockey game there is always the chance I fall and break my neck. Do I know the risks.. yes Do I still work yes. Is there an answer for this mess.. who knows.. probably never gonna be perfect. Maybe an answer is a blanket insurance company where the powers to be in the porn biz come up with some plan to insure people. Maybe the more these cases pop up the more girls will NOT screw guys who do bareback gay. I don't know. I would be more than happy to be part of the solution than part of the discussion. __________________ Joe Loughlin [email protected] TEAM- joeloughlin. Telegram - AMA_JOE https://www.amaproduction.com

09-12-2013, 01:09 AM	#266
AsianDivaGirlsWebDude Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 38,323	The Porn Valley Mexican Stand-Off...Continues According to the FSC/PASS site, the FSC was supposed to meet Tuesday about patient #3 exposure re-tests, and to decide what steps to take next, such as lifting or extending the production moratorium, which was announced as a result of HIV+ #3 (even though the FSC initially said HIV+ #3 never worked in the industry - kind of begs the question as to who is being re-tested if HIV+ #3 never worked with anyone after testing positive). Meanwhile, Weinstein of the AHF claims to know of a 4th HIV+ case, which the FSC is vehemently denying. Perhaps Weinstein is waiting on the FSC to make their announcement first so he can spring a "gotcha" on them. Otherwise, he is lying about a rather serious matter. One thing is known, Public Health officials have to be notified by the testing clinic within 7 days of any HIV+ results, so we'll find out soon enough who is telling the truth this time (although both the FSC/AHF are masters of double-talk spin control deception). Surprised no one has made "Not Rebel Without A Cause XXX" starring James Deen yet. ADG __________________ Asian Diva Girls - Exclusive Photos and Videos Asian Diva Girls Affiliate Program (50% ccBill Revshare)

09-12-2013, 11:16 AM	#270
Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,959	I don't get it...the LAW says that under Obama Care that insurance companies have to pay for the HIV meds. The new one a day pill shouldn't make her sick at all. Just doesn't add up right to me. Somebody is not giving her proper medical advice and insurance advice. Even here in Vegas you can pretty much go to the LGBT and get all this stuff for free. Not sure why this girl is paying like that...unless the AHF other anti-porn people are "guiding" her. I can't even fathom why someone would be publicly announcing that they have a fever and are in the hospital unless they are being manipulated? __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com

09-12-2013, 01:03 PM	#276
pornlaw Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,877	@AsianDiva - CalOSHA already has new language for 5193 that is industry specific that is being sent to FedOSHA for approval this month. AB640 is nothing more than political and fundraising grandstanding. No one is going to enforce this just as they dont bother to enforce Measure B in LA County. CalOSHA is the department that has authority over workplace safety. When Weinstein didnt get the unwavering support he wanted for his pet project from CalOSHA he found Hall and paid him some money. Hall must think this will take him national and keeps trying to pass an unnecessary bill. Most the legislators know its wasteful. I suspect thats why his first one died in committee. He finally got this one to a vote but Jerry Brown has former ties to the industry so it will be interesting to see what he does with this. __________________ Michael www.AdultBizLaw.com

09-11-2013, 04:38 PM	#251
_Richard_ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 30,989	gentlemen...

09-11-2013, 04:42 PM	#252
gabe100 Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 459	leaving ADG rather deflated... insert balloon popping pic insert boxer on floor looking dazed

09-11-2013, 05:33 PM	#260
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	This is why it doesn't matter if there isn't a 4th performer or not, or even a 5th one, or if it was caught on set or not. This is what the world sees: You guys can stand on the top of the Aon Center and shout that it's all not true until blood shoots from your mouth, but it won't matter with headlines like that.

09-12-2013, 07:09 PM	#281
Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,959	Here in Vegas they do free testing at LBGT. I've never done that because we have a standing order from our personal physician at Lab Corp. Cost is $59 But IF you went for the free testing here...most days of the month they do the "2 weeks" to get the results. But one day a month they do the rapid hiv test: September 19 — 10:30 a.m. - 12:30 p.m., 1:30 p.m. - 5 p.m. (subject to change) Gay and Lesbian Center of Southern Nevada Free Rapid HIV Testing / STD Screenings / Hepatitis A & B Vaccines 401 S. Maryland Pkwy. Las Vegas, NV 89101 Call 733-9800 for more information. There's also what looks to be a Boxing gym that does it for free all month long: 1 p.m. - 5 p.m. Richard Steele Boxing Free Rapid HIV Testing / STD Screening 2475 W. Cheyenne Ave. North Las Vegas, NV 89032 Call 638-1308 for more information. That's just 2 of the ones I found here by googling. I prefer to use Lab Corp (the same company that does blood work nationwide every time any of you go to the doctor and need blood tests done). We found out how much the price was jacked up by AIM and TTS in the past when my doctor sent me there to get blood drawn. I was telling the nurse what we did for a living and said that Claudia Marie had to test every month and it was $130 PLUS the fee for whomever did the draw. The people at Lab Corp were shocked. They told me we were getting screwed hard and showed me the cost of the test. Told me to just go to my doctor and get an order for it. So we did. I never plan on having CM test with one of those "industry" testing places again. I have no desire to get ripped off and/or have her medical records floating around for everyone to see. __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com

09-13-2013, 09:51 AM	#286
KellyPierce Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Chicago Posts: 36	Can I just say it annoys me trans performers get lumped in with Gay Performers. We test just as hard as the mainstream industry and we use CONDOMS almost every time! NONE.. NOT ONE US Transsexual PERFORMER has EVER BEEN ON the list!! So why you guys point your fingers at US I have no clue! It's always been the gay for pay or female actresses that turn up with it. Not to mention SEX IN GENERAL IS NEVER going to be 100% safe! If you believe that you are delusional! There are agencies that escort their girls out to the highest bidder and the client will fuck them raw! To deny that again delusional! Everyone loves to point fingers, but doesn't point fingers at their own unsafe way of doing things! Porn perfomers have personal lives and a shit load escort..28 days to me is too long of time! Every 15 days should be put in place! The moratorium was not long enough the first time making us look horrendous to the mainstream media! Then on top of it you had producers in Arizona and other places not following the moratorium convincing performers to come their way to shoot! It needs to be a group effort to keep our asses off the chopping block! Instead of working apart we should work together. The gay industry should be HELD to the SAME standards! It should be UNIVERSAL! I personally work only with my husband or if we do threesomes I google the shit out of the performers name so I know who and what SHE is about. I think performers should have to sign a contract or admit to the company/performer she is working with that they escort. Escorts can complain all they want, but when you are having sex with 1 to 10 different guys daily your chance of infection SIGNIFICANTLY goes up! FYI though OUR STANDARDS OF TESTING IN THE US TRANSSEXUAL NICHE is the SAME AS YOURS and we almost ALWAYS USE A CONDOM.. Companies like GROOBY expect you to use a condom. So why we get mixed into the gay side I WILL NEVER know besides the fact we both have the same downstairs! FYI GAY MEN ARE NOT ATTRACTED TO TRANSSEXUALS! WHY?? Because they look like women! They have tits! They want MEN like many of the men posting in this thread. If we want change!! Then we as an industry as a WHOLE need to come together! None of this straight vs gay vs trans vs crossover crap We should all have the same standard of testing! I know some of the companies in the gay niche do condom only no testing..that should be illegal and abolished! As well when they call a moratorium we all halt in every state! In case a traveling performer so happens to have it! Otherwise we are going to get our asses handed to use every single time! __________________ http://kellypierceblog.com http://kellypiercexxx.com http://kellysdreamhouse.com Last edited by KellyPierce; 09-13-2013 at 10:03 AM..

09-13-2013, 10:58 AM	#292
Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,959	Aaaah, so now the poor "victim" Cameron Bay is blaming it all on the porn industry. How predictable. Maybe ADG will rush over to give even more money to her "fund". Oh wait...there will be no need for that. The Anti-Porn people are going to help her make money while she is of value to them. I'd like to make an analogy: I hire 2 carpenters to work on my home. After work they go and do some carpentry on their own home. They get hurt. And now I get blamed for it because I was nice enough to have given them a job to make a living. That scenario would NEVER happen in the "real" world. But somehow, here in porn...it does. __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com

09-13-2013, 11:18 AM	#294
Grapesoda So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Montana Posts: 46,238	what mess for sure...