Just in from AVN !!!! New HIV Case detected Moratorium Reinstated !! - Page 7 - GoFuckYourself.com

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 09-13-2013, 04:11 PM

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Cameron Bay has recently contracted HIV FANS FRIENDS AND LOVED ONES uniting to raise $ for HIV expenses for long healthy life.

As you all are aware, one of our industry performers, Cameron Bay has recently contracted HIV. In the prior week, following the public announcement and coming forward, Cameron Bay has received an outpouring of sincere thoughts and a tremendous amount of love and support, along with praise for having the courage to come forward as she did so that the entire industry was able to move into action quickly in determining any secondary transmissions, which gratefully there is none.

Cameron has been dealt a life changing event, one that could potentially happen to us all. And inspired and impressed manyThe necessary medicines that will enable her to live a long and healthy life are very expensive. If you desire to donate funds for the benefit of Cameron, please utilize this fundraising website, all funds go directly to Cameron. On behalf of Cameron, ATMLA and those who have shared their heartfelt thoughts, we thank you and appreciate your sincere donation.

I was touched by this donation message:

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Some Chick in SF $25.00

Dear Cameron,

I don't know you, but I wanted to reach out and tell you that I am rooting for you, and see you as a brave, fun, sexually liberated soul with a tough road ahead.

I sincerely hope that your fellow man does not make it harder by casting judgement or ostracizing you. I hope people step up, especially those in the industry, and show you immense love and kindness to give you that boost your spirit and wallet need right now.

Sex is great. Porn is great. It's a tragedy that there is a virus that is spread by something as awesome as fucking...but that's all that it is: a virus. It has nothing to do with you as a person.

Remember that.

Some advice:

- Read some Eckhart Tolle

- Don't get too caught up in social media; turn it off if it's becoming a negative force.

- Continue to be candid and honest about this experience - it's fucking refreshing and will continue to destigmatize Poz people.

- Educate the haters - a lot of people judge Poz people because they are seriously misinformed.

- Exercise. For your sanity and vanity.

- Listen to good music - as Bob Marley says, "the one good thing about music, when it hits you feel no pain."

- Lean on your gays - no one understands and doesn't judge what you're going through more than gay men.

- Laugh. Smile. Cry. Travel. Eat Tacos. Breathe. Etc

- Don't do anything self destructive. This is not a death sentence by any means. You are going to be around for a looooooong time, so don't switch into "I have nothing to live for" mode. It's a marathon, not a sprint.

- Lastly - for real - move to San Francisco. You will never find a city that is more well accommodated financially, spiritually and emotionally for people living with HIV. The services available for no or low cost here are unlike any other place on the planet.

All the best. Much love,

"Some chick in SF?

To send a donation or a hug to Cameron Bay:

Cameron Bay HIV Medical Fund

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Murdoch52 · 09-13-2013, 05:05 PM

Just wanted to add a little to this... Mike South is going around talking about this on his blog and his facts are not correct.....

http://www.mikesouth.com/mike-south-...nto-porn-8300/

I know we are all little school kids over here but lets not go added fuel to the fire when we dont know wtf we are talking about.... The person in the ad he posted isnt Sophia in anyway shape or form.... So when we write about raising our standards in the industry lets start by raising our standards in reporting and fact finding...

Thats all I got to say about that!

VamosNicholas · 09-13-2013, 05:25 PM

Yeah, I saw the comments on that article earlier. It's funny, there's a line from Zoolander that applies perfectly to so many people in adult. A few days ago I spoofed it a bit for some forum post. Think it applies here too. Although one thing to note... I don't really mind MS and I have nothing against him, but I think at times he tries way too hard. Too many people only looking out for themselves and don't care about damaging someone's reputation or just screwing people over in general...

"Do you understand that the world does not revolve around you and your do whatever it takes, ruin as many people's lives, so long as you can make a name for yourself as an investigatory journalist, no matter how many friends you lose or people you leave dead and bloodied along the way, just so long so you can make a name for yourself as an investigatory journalist, no matter how many friends you lose or people you leave dead and bloodied and dying along the way?"

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 09-13-2013, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Rob Black vs Mike South

A novel fundraising idea:

Porn pundits Mike South and Rob Black like to mix it up on occasion, and the current HIIV situation brought them together (to fight each other) once again, except this time something actually good may come from it.

Mike South has challenged Rob Black to put his money where his mouth is to show his support for the three recently confirmed adult industry HIV+ cases by making a financial donation, which South said that he will match:

Well, looks like Mike bought himself an easy out by making the condition that Rob STFU - that's about as likely as Michael Weinstein and Diane Duke doing a bareback anal scene (although that would probably generate a lot of sales).

To date, neither man has donated a penny to Cameron. It would be a shame if they both were doing this for the sole purpose of exploiting this issue to generate eyeballs for their respective online rags.

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sorry bro that was a reader mail from Brad Armstrong....I generally ignore Rob Black, he lacks the common sense and the credibility to be worthy of my time ;)

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Brad is good people.

Just Dave

I don't personally know Brad, but he seems like he is good people - Brad Armstrong and his wife Jessica Drake contributed $500 to the Cameron Bay HIV Medical Fund.

Awesome!

I've asked different people I meet in my day-to-day life who are not in the adult industry regarding what they have heard about the current HIV outbreak. Although they are generally scant on details, lots of people know that something serious happened related to HIV which caused the adult industry to shut down.

It's nice when I can tell other people about the many truly wonderful and caring people that there are in this industry.

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AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 09-13-2013, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by VamosNicholas

Yeah, I saw the comments on that article earlier. It's funny, there's a line from Zoolander that applies perfectly to so many people in adult. A few days ago I spoofed it a bit for some forum post. Think it applies here too. Although one thing to note... I don't really mind MS and I have nothing against him, but I think at times he tries way too hard. Too many people only looking out for themselves and don't care about damaging someone's reputation or just screwing people over in general...

"Do you understand that the world does not revolve around you and your do whatever it takes, ruin as many people's lives, so long as you can make a name for yourself as an investigatory journalist, no matter how many friends you lose or people you leave dead and bloodied along the way, just so long so you can make a name for yourself as an investigatory journalist, no matter how many friends you lose or people you leave dead and bloodied and dying along the way?"

You absolutely know that a thread is epic when someone quotes Zoolander:

Only on GFY...

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Grapesoda · 09-13-2013, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Murdoch52

Just wanted to add a little to this... Mike South is going around talking about this on his blog and his facts are not correct.....

http://www.mikesouth.com/mike-south-...nto-porn-8300/

I know we are all little school kids over here but lets not go added fuel to the fire when we dont know wtf we are talking about.... The person in the ad he posted isnt Sophia in anyway shape or form.... So when we write about raising our standards in the industry lets start by raising our standards in reporting and fact finding...

Thats all I got to say about that!

South is seldom correct

Grapesoda · 09-13-2013, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by VamosNicholas

Yeah, I saw the comments on that article earlier. It's funny, there's a line from Zoolander that applies perfectly to so many people in adult. A few days ago I spoofed it a bit for some forum post. Think it applies here too. Although one thing to note... I don't really mind MS and I have nothing against him, but I think at times he tries way too hard. Too many people only looking out for themselves and don't care about damaging someone's reputation or just screwing people over in general...

"Do you understand that the world does not revolve around you and your do whatever it takes, ruin as many people's lives, so long as you can make a name for yourself as an investigatory journalist, no matter how many friends you lose or people you leave dead and bloodied along the way, just so long so you can make a name for yourself as an investigatory journalist, no matter how many friends you lose or people you leave dead and bloodied and dying along the way?"

south would throw you and your family under the bus for 5 hits on his website

JustDaveXxx · 09-13-2013, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Hmmm...

ADG

ADG,

You know me, I have always been a very truthful, honest, respectful, professional person. In porn, on GFY and in life in general. I dont steal, lie, cheat or deceive.

I like Mike South, I get a long with Mike South, even if we don't agree with each other on certain things.

I have been friends, with Kevin for about 9 years. Spoke with him on this subject.

I know for a fact, that he did NOT shoot on the Saturday in question. I don't care who told Mike What about who, no shoot took place.

I know this guy very well. He is a good person and a class act.

I called him up and mentioned what Mike said on his blog about him and he laughed and said, "Dave its not true, didn't happen, I shouldn't have to defend myself when I did nothing, this is ridicules."

Furthermore, I asked him, if he would like me to contact Mike South and tell him that he is incorrect with his information? "Dave, I appreciated it, but just let it go my friend, ............"

I told him "OK", i will leave it be.

Now I promised Kevin, That I would let this go and Let Evil Angel handle it.

I Should not speak up for Kevin because, I promised, I would just "let it go", But this has turned into my credibility and character being put into question now.

So I will make it super simple: Kevin Moore did not shoot on the Saturday in question!!! This, I will put on my 3 year old sons life on and my 6 year old daughters life on!!!This I know!!!!! I know what he was doing on Saturday and it was not shooting!! I am also willing to wager 2k, that Mike South will not be able to factually back up this story. (No disrespect) We can both put the money into an escrow account and see where the facts actually fall. Who gets the money, GFY can decide. Thats how sure, I am about what I know on the subject!! Let me know.

My word, my reputation is as solid as they come.

The truth will come out. That I know!! Girl needs to show a cashed check, have an agent back her story, etc. Writing a story that can hurt someone without checking the facts is just plain wrong and unprofessional.

Just Dave

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 09-13-2013, 10:07 PM

It's nice that you are a character witness for your friend Kevin, however neither you nor I was there, and only Kevin and the female performer know the truth.

I posted what Mike South wrote in order to bring out into the open, and try to get to the bottom of a pretty serious accusation; that one of the companies represented on the FSC Board violated the production moratorium.

After your initial post defending Kevin, I e-mailed Mike and asked him wtf?

Mike stood by his story, and pointed out that the performer that Kevin said he worked with on Friday was different than the performer whom MS says Kevin worked with on Saturday.

I take most hearsay with a grain of salt, so honestly, I still can't tell who is telling the truth.

I don't know Mike or Kevin personally, and for anyone reading, Dave and I have never met personally that I am aware of, although I may have met him briefly when I shot at his house years ago, since I am good friends with a guy who was one of his roommates at the time - I've only heard good things about Dave, and consider him a very good shooter (I can even kinda understand how he jumped at the opportunity to work for Manwin, even though many consider them to be the scourge of the industry).

Anyway, I feel that there could be some misdirection going on from both sides - for example, Kevin says he never shot with Performer A after the moratorium was in effect, when the performer in question was not Performer A, but instead Performer B, and Mike won't identify who Performer B is (I figured MS was setting a trap and would reveal Performer B's name at some point).

My post was an effort to bring this dispute out into the open to see if it was even possible to get to the bottom of this issue.

Mike may fly a little fast and loose on occasion, and he has stepped on his dick a time or two (muckraker occupational hazards), however I would say that he raises a lot of important issues no one else likes to talk about, and he has been proven to be correct on many occasions.

If nothing else, hopefully this controversy is causing others to not break the production moratorium, or at least to think twice about doing so, realizing that there could be some blowback if they do.

Would be nice to have the principles weigh in...

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mikesouth · 09-13-2013, 10:18 PM

hey im the first to admit it...if you look in the comments section some of the commenters got it but I explained anyway I caught that it may or may not be the same Sofia Delgado...the pics are 2 yrs old but the point of the ads being posted was simple...whether its her or not theres no shortage of people in adult that WOULD shoot THAT Sofia Delgado as soon as the ink was dry on her test results and thats the mistake we make all too often.

I get that Im high profile and that makes me an easy target but some of yall might wanna give things a bit more thought....I dont presume my readers are morons, I would appreciate that they not assume that I am...

JustDaveXxx · 09-13-2013, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

It's nice that you are a character witness for your friend Kevin, however neither you nor I was there, and only Kevin and the female performer know the truth.

I posted what Mike South wrote in order to bring out into the open, and try to get to the bottom of a pretty serious accusation; that one of the companies represented on the FSC Board violated the production moratorium.

After your initial post defending Kevin, I e-mailed Mike and asked him wtf?

Mike stood by his story, and pointed out that the performer that Kevin said he worked with on Friday was different than the performer whom MS says Kevin worked with on Saturday.

I take most hearsay with a grain of salt, so honestly, I still can't tell who is telling the truth.

I don't know Mike or Kevin personally, and for anyone reading, Dave and I have never met personally that I am aware of, although I may have met him briefly when I shot at his house years ago, since I am good friends with a guy who was one of his roommates at the time - I've only heard good things about Dave, and consider him a very good shooter (I can even kinda understand how he jumped at the opportunity to work for Manwin, even though many consider them to be the scourge of the industry).

Anyway, I feel that there could be some misdirection going on from both sides - for example, Kevin says he never shot with Performer A after the moratorium was in effect, when the performer in question was not Performer A, but instead Performer B, and Mike won't identify who Performer B is (I figured MS was setting a trap and would reveal Performer B's name at some point).

My post was an effort to bring this dispute out into the open to see if it was even possible to get to the bottom of this issue.

Mike may fly a little fast and loose on occasion, and he has stepped on his dick a time or two (muckraker occupational hazards), however I would say that he raises a lot of important issues no one else likes to talk about, and he has been proven to be correct on many occasions.

If nothing else, hopefully this controversy is causing others to not break the production moratorium, or at least to think twice about doing so, realizing that there could be some blowback if they do.

Would be nice to have the principles weigh in...

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Nice post. I always like your posts.

For me, Kevin isn't some guy behind a keyboard, or some Avatar on a message board, he is a long time friend who I know very well. He isn't some guy, i know through a person or hung out with once or twice. He's a real friend. One that I would waste my Friday night to defend.

I not going to go as far as to say, Mike South is being malicious and I do thinks he cares about talent and their well being, but I will say that he has been given wrong information and has preceded to use it without fact checking it.

I dont care, if he releases the name or not. Don't care, but it would be nice for him to ask and and get an email of the canceled check or some kind of photo proof, name of the DVD she was shooting, location city that he shot her in, (I know he doesn't shoot in LA City Or LA County) or the name of the talent that this fictitious girl worked with. Something.

We all know when Mike has real dirt, he is a fact posting maniac. Where are they now? Words from a person who, I absolutely know did not get hired to work on the Saturday in question.

Im all about not reviling the source, but to make serious claims of safety violations without having one single provable fact isn't very nice.

One last thing; I would not know a girl in this business who may have been wronged or made to shoot at serious risks to her health, to not publicly come out and point out the wrong doing. If there was wrong doing this girl should publicly blast Kevin so that no other girl in the future would be put at risk. Maybe she doesn't care about others being put at risk.

But that has not happened has it? Because there is no girl who shot on the Saturday in question.

Just Dave

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 09-13-2013, 11:02 PM

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Nice post. I always like your posts.

For me, Kevin isn't some guy behind a keyboard, or some Avatar on a message board, he is a long time friend who I know very well. He isn't some guy, i know through a person or hung out with once or twice. He's a real friend. One that I would waste my Friday night to defend.

I not going to go as far as to say, Mike South is being malicious and I do thinks he cares about talent and their well being, but I will say that he has been given wrong information and has preceded to use it without fact checking it.

I dont care, if he releases the name or not. Don't care, but it would be nice for him to ask and and get an email of the canceled check or some kind of photo proof, name of the DVD she was shooting, location city that he shot her in, (I know he doesn't shoot in LA City Or LA County) or the name of the talent that this fictitious girl worked with. Something.

We all know when Mike has real dirt, he is a fact posting maniac. Where are they now? Words from a person who, I absolutely know did not get hired to work on the Saturday in question.

Im all about not reviling the source, but to make serious claims of safety violations without having one single provable fact isn't very nice.

One last thing; I would not know a girl in this business who may have been wronged or made to shoot at serious risks to her health, to not publicly come out and point out the wrong doing. If there was wrong doing this girl should publicly blast Kevin so that no other girl in the future would be put at risk. Maybe she doesn't care about others being put at risk.

But that has not happened has it? Because there is no girl who shot on the Saturday in question.

Just Dave

Fair enough, and I have no argument with what you said, except to note that the girl could be pressured not to say any more "if she ever wants to work in this town again".

If I were in that position, it would be an easy choice between the guy that just paid me, and has the clout he has regarding my future work in the biz, against making Mike South look good on a message forum (no offense Mike).

Unless Mike can produce a smoking gun, this one ends in Kevin's favor in the court of public opinion, since the burden of proof is on Mike now.

That does not mean that Kevin did not shoot on Saturday, just that Mike was unable to prove it - two different things for people able to follow along.

Would like to meet you someday Dave. Let me know if you are ever doing any workshops.

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JustDaveXxx · 09-13-2013, 11:28 PM

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Fair enough, and I have no argument with what you said, except to note that the girl could be pressured not to say any more "if she ever wants to work in this town again".

For sure. I agree. The agent in that situation should way be crucified!

It will come out either way. If it is bullshit, no shooter will want to shoot her. Nobody wants the drama and bullshit. But at the same time, if she comes out, she will for sure be respected for calling out shit that should not be happening. And in that situation, she would be fine.

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If I were in that position, it would be an easy choice between the guy that just paid me, and has the clout he has regarding my future work in the biz, against making Mike South look good on a message forum (no offense Mike).

Shooting at a time like now would absolutely kill your clout and reputation.

Nobody is shooting. Shooters are really taking this seriously and so are the agents.

I had a friend, just to see if he could book sex scenes,(he had no intention of actually shooting) To see if any agents would take it, nobody has.

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Unless Mike can produce a smoking gun, this one ends in Kevin's favor in the court of public opinion, since the burden of proof is on Mike now.

Agreed.

Cant see him getting any proof. Canceled check, something. Have he come forward and point out the scumbag. Anyone who shoots now is a scumbag!

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

That does not mean that Kevin did not shoot on Saturday, just that Mike was unable to prove it - two different things for people able to follow along.

True. But trust me when I say this; For some crazy, "his family got held for hostage and threatened with death, if he didn't shoot on Saturday", I promises, I will show up on his doorstep and personally beat his ass. I take performers safety seriously and Im not into looking stupid when I defend close friends.

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Would like to meet you someday Dave. Let me know if you are ever doing any workshops.

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For sure!! Your in the Bay Area right?

Well I happen to be off for a bit right now. lol

If you come down in the next 10 days and you bring your both your stills and video cameras, I got lights, I would totally work on helping up your game. We can shoot, and go over it in the editing bay immediately. Got a 6K studio filled with gear and Im always shooting non porn stuff. Its never work for me. Im always smiling and laughing.

Email me; [email protected]

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 09-14-2013, 12:28 AM

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For sure!! You're in the Bay Area right?

Well I happen to be off for a bit right now. lol

If you come down in the next 10 days and you bring your both your stills and video cameras, I got lights, I would totally work on helping up your game. We can shoot, and go over it in the editing bay immediately. Got a 6K studio filled with gear and Im always shooting non porn stuff. Its never work for me. Im always smiling and laughing.

Wish I could clear my schedule so easily, damn it. Definitely like to get down and learn more at your knee.

Like you, I love what I do, so it is not work for me, but I must confide, I've never worked so hard at not work in my life...

Yup, I am here in the SF Bay Area (I live down the street from your former roomie B, he shoots great stills for me sometimes)...Anyway, we got 49ers, Raiders, A's, Giants, Sharks, America's Cup, awesome weather (foggy in the City, duh, but great otherwise), and a kick ass line-up of Fall concerts, so if you're ever up this way, hit me up (I've been known to entertain a GFYer or two up here).

Well, I have to get back to not work...

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DWB · 09-14-2013, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx

If you come down in the next 10 days and you bring your both your stills and video cameras, I got lights, I would totally work on helping up your game. We can shoot, and go over it in the editing bay immediately.

Pure class. Like a boss.

Porno Dan · 09-14-2013, 09:18 AM

More facts, not speculation

Everyone performer #3 worked with has tested negative, and it has been over a month since she worked with anyone in the adult industry.

Yes, there are only 3 performers who tested positive. Cameron Bay, her boyfriend Rod Daily, and this performer who is their close friend.

All performers will be asked to go get new tests next week and as long as there are no new positive tests production will resume late next week.

mikesouth · 09-14-2013, 09:52 AM

If anyone thinks I post ALL the dirt I get theyd be wrong....I didnt post the girls name that he shot because she was new talent from FL who returned to FL the next day and likely was clueless, I havent posted others who are defying the moratorium (I know quite a few) I singled out Kevin because of Christian Manns connection to the FSC who called for the moratorium in the first place but then allows his directors to break it.

Christian has the facts now, what he does with them is his call likely kevin will get his hand slapped and that will be the end of it

Even I cancelled a shoot today ... none of my guys work for anyone but me and I have a very tight talent pool, but the girl I had scheduled had been to LA and shot once scene there in the last 30 days. It was my call..better safe than sorry.

I do believe that in the end everything usually comes out but for me to run certain things like Sofia Delgados name I have to have a pretty good reason.

You should see some of the stuff I DONT run....

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 09-14-2013, 01:57 PM

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I won't use the tranny fucker either

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Is this a reference to the male talent whose name is the same as the name of one of the world's major religions?

I've seen a few people suggest that HIV+ #4 was possibly ChristianXXX, and while he recently speculated about retiring from porn, he indicates that he meant by his 40th birthday next year, and insists it has nothing to do with him being HIV+:

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More facts, not speculation

All performers will be asked to go get new tests next week and as long as there are no new positive tests production will resume late next week.

Well, I'm glad that everything is settled then...or is it?

Let's see, there is probably going to be more frequent testing (14 or 15 days instead of 30), which FSC/PASS was planning to announce already weeks ago anyway, but other than that, it looks like business as usual:

? Some companies will continue to test, others will not

? Some companies will continue to shoot bareback trannys/gays, and some of these will continue to crossover perform

? Performers will still catch HIV and expose others to the virus

? A moratorium will only be called by the FSC if it is a performer that tested at their clinic or is cooperating with them (if they know about another case, they will do little/nothing about it if they feel it does not affect their liability/reputation, and will not call a moratorium for the safety of the industry)

? Top agencies will continue to serve as fronts for illegal prostitution

Well, let's all crack a beer, now that the latest adult industry HIV outbreak has been swept under the carpet.

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JustDaveXxx · 09-14-2013, 02:23 PM

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Wish I could clear my schedule so easily, damn it. Definitely like to get down and learn more at your knee.

Like you, I love what I do, so it is not work for me, but I must confide, I've never worked so hard at not work in my life...

Yup, I am here in the SF Bay Area (I live down the street from your former roomie B, he shoots great stills for me sometimes)...Anyway, we got 49ers, Raiders, A's, Giants, Sharks, America's Cup, awesome weather (foggy in the City, duh, but great otherwise), and a kick ass line-up of Fall concerts, so if you're ever up this way, hit me up (I've been known to entertain a GFYer or two up here).

Well, I have to get back to not work...

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So cool!!

My invitation is for real. Not busy for the next 10 days.

Really think about it. Can get some girls in for solo content so we can practice stills and Vid shooting. I love sharing tech info.

Would be fun! And I know Theo would love to catch lunch and Dinner with you too. He's in Greece for about 6 more days though.

Me and Brennan would work technical photography all the time. He lived with me for 4+ years. I am a close friend and big brother to him.

Brennan is back up in the Bay area with a good programing job. Super happy as well. Great guy and a class act. We chopped it up for an hour 4 days ago.

Maybe I will ride my Harley up to the Bay Area to visit you and Brennan.

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Pure class. Like a boss.

Thank you my friend.

Sorry I did not get back to you on ICQ. Had the alarm company at my studio.

But to anser your question:

This mic is really good and priced very well for it performance. A must have for shooting.

Get This

I use this:

Sennheiser MKH 70 and the MKH 60 for different applications when shooting. Both are super good, priced very high and can be overkill for porn. But the are so good and so directional, that I never have to cut for plans and I can tune out all background noise with the Low pass, Mid pass, and High pass cut dip switches.

This...

The down side is; If you are holing the camera and you are trying to ask a girl questions, The MKH 70 absolutely wont pick up the camera mans voice. lol

Both good, both used for different things.

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

If anyone thinks I post ALL the dirt I get theyd be wrong....I didnt post the girls name that he shot because she was new talent from FL who returned to FL the next day and likely was clueless, I havent posted others who are defying the moratorium (I know quite a few) I singled out Kevin because of Christian Manns connection to the FSC who called for the moratorium in the first place but then allows his directors to break it.

Christian has the facts now, what he does with them is his call likely kevin will get his hand slapped and that will be the end of it

All good. I guess we will see what happens.

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Even I cancelled a shoot today ... none of my guys work for anyone but me and I have a very tight talent pool, but the girl I had scheduled had been to LA and shot once scene there in the last 30 days. It was my call..better safe than sorry.

Always better safe than sorry. Im with you on that. Being "sorry" can suck and cost a lot down the road.

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You should see some of the stuff I DONT run....

OHHH I bet! I would guess that you get a lot of people with really slanted stores with "Axes" to grind. You are a good weapon to use to hurt people. Just hope you get the facts straight before posting it up. And if its the truth, and can prevent people from getting hurt Fuck'Em! Write that shit!!

On another subject: I like what you posted today. Good stuff, very informative, good info.

We need more informative stuff like that.

And lastly, if you really want to know something or you need to fact check something that I feel will help your story and help our business, contact me. I am in the "know". I 100% believe in performer safety and bettering our business.

I am a very honest, credible person, with an impeccable reputation with performers and adult companies, but there are some questions I obviously cant answer or comment on. With any questions that are questionable, I wont lie, I just won't comment for obvious reasons.

Just Dave

XXXMovie4M · 09-14-2013, 05:18 PM

Not that it really matters at this point but just an observation. Was this an HIV related fever?

If so, then that means this photo was taken on or before June 12th. She tested negative for HIV on July 26th and was given the green light to shoot?

Am I missing something here or are they completely unrelated? Isn't a high fever one of the first symptoms of acute HIV?

babymaker · 09-14-2013, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XXXMovie4M

Not that it really matters at this point but just an observation. Was this an HIV related fever?

If so, then that means this photo was taken on or before June 12th. She tested negative for HIV on July 26th and was given the green light to shoot?

Am I missing something here or are they completely unrelated? Isn't a high fever one of the first symptoms of acute HIV?

Very well could have been drug or alcohol related, when I used to drink hardcore years ago i had problems like that, and assuming the meth accusations are true then it seems it could be related to something along those lines and not necessarily HIV.

Robbie · 09-14-2013, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XXXMovie4M

Am I missing something here or are they completely unrelated? Isn't a high fever one of the first symptoms of acute HIV?

Can HIV be "acute"?

It's the virus that becomes AIDS. I would say it's "acute" when it becomes full blown AIDS right?

Anything else is just a virus. And once a person finds out they have it and take the pill each day for it...their viral load goes to zero and there is not even a trace of it (they will test 100% clean and are not infectious at that point).

I was thinking about it today...it's one pill a day. And you live a normal healthy life.

Much better than say a diabetic for instance. They have to take an injection of insulin every day or they go into a coma and DIE...not months or years down the road like a person who didn't take their HIV meds and develops AIDS later on...the diabetic DIES right away.

Lots of really horrible ailments like that. For instance...a much worse fate is to have failed kidneys. Then you have to go in every day and spend hours hooked up to a dialysis machine. That makes you feel okay for a few hours and then by the next day you are feeling like holy hell until you get to the clinic and get back on the dialysis machine again. And if you don't do that...you DIE. Not months or years later...but right away.

Tons more diseases (that are far more common than HIV) that are harder to treat. Don't even mention the big one: Cancer. I'd rather have HIV any day of the week than cancer.

But only HIV and AIDS carry this kind of fear, panic, and social stigma.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 09-14-2013, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XXXMovie4M

Not that it really matters at this point but just an observation. Was this an HIV related fever?

If so, then that means this photo was taken on or before June 12th. She tested negative for HIV on July 26th and was given the green light to shoot?

Am I missing something here or are they completely unrelated? Isn't a high fever one of the first symptoms of acute HIV?

While a fever can indeed be an indication of HIV exposure, I'm pretty sure it just as likely could have been many other things (I'm not going to speculate).

As I understand it, the timeframe when the HIV+ infection count skyrockets in a newly infected person is a few weeks after exposure. Cameron tested HIV negative on July 26th, after her hospital stay over her kidney related problem, and days before her Kink shoot.

Cameron tested positive on Aug 19th, which would have put her infection date as sometime around when the Kink shoot took place on July 31st.

At the Kink shoot, Cameron apparently had an injury and other problems on set requiring hospitalization, which the FSC has not addressed publicly yet that I am aware of (too busy trying to claim that HIV was definitely not contracted on set, which has not been proven or disproven).

I thought the FSC said they were concerned with performer health and safety - I guess not, unless it affects the FSC's liability, and especially not when the injuries occurred on set at an FSC Board Member's location; Kink):

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During the (Kink) scene, a male extra hit Bay too hard on set and badly injured her left-breast tissue. Kink.com paid for her hospital visit through workers compensation, and her doctor ordered her not to work for two weeks so that her breast could recover, Bay said.

The surgery she needs on her breast, which is artificially enlarged, has now been postponed -- possibly permanently -- because she has HIV.

Kink.com confirmed to HuffPost that performers' injuries on set are covered by workers compensation but the company's HR department was not available for comment on Bay's injury.

In the same shoot, there was a separate incident when "really, really bad stuff" happened on set, Bay said. "Let's just say there was an incident, and we should have stopped shooting," she said, declining to give more details. "Very poor decisions by a few of us."

Who was the Director in charge?

Business as usual FSC?

I'm guessing that Cameron's kidney ailment probably left her with a weakened immune system, and it sounds like her body was heavily traumatized at the Kink Public Disgrace shoot (including the use of a cattle prod) - Kink did more than disgrace Cameron Bay, they assaulted her, and Peter and company disgraced themselves, and the entire adult industry in the process.

Who wants to bet that Peter votes to return to business as usual, as soon as possible? Of course, without an industry led health and safety review of Kink's on an off set practices, including firing live ammunition at their studio location, as well as charges of cocaine possession filed against the CEO of Kink (discovered when Police were called to Kink to follow up on the weapons allegations). Peter has lawyers bills to pay - fire up the fucking machines!

Kink and FSC are lucky that there is not an adult performers Union (yet), because it is likely that they would demand a safety report and follow-up regarding such serious and preventable on-set injuries (there was a performer burned on a Mofos/Manwin set also not too long ago, that was poorly handled, and probably should have been independently inspected as well).

Oh well, bring another slave for Kink to beat...afterall, the message that Kink and the FSC are sending is that performers exist to be used and beaten, tortured, disgraced and humiliated, and they are ultimately expendable - that is their sad unfortunate message.

ADG

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 09-15-2013, 10:41 AM

Listen up...

Bump for more education.

ADG

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 09-15-2013, 08:10 PM

Rod seemed to be quite conscientious about condoms and testing, making this whole situation an even bigger shame.

ADG

DWB · 09-16-2013, 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Rod seemed to be quite conscientious about condoms and testing, making this whole situation an even bigger shame.

ADG

have they figured out where he caught it yet?

BlackCrayon · 09-16-2013, 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

Can HIV be "acute"?

It's the virus that becomes AIDS. I would say it's "acute" when it becomes full blown AIDS right?

Anything else is just a virus. And once a person finds out they have it and take the pill each day for it...their viral load goes to zero and there is not even a trace of it (they will test 100% clean and are not infectious at that point).

I was thinking about it today...it's one pill a day. And you live a normal healthy life.

Much better than say a diabetic for instance. They have to take an injection of insulin every day or they go into a coma and DIE...not months or years down the road like a person who didn't take their HIV meds and develops AIDS later on...the diabetic DIES right away.

Lots of really horrible ailments like that. For instance...a much worse fate is to have failed kidneys. Then you have to go in every day and spend hours hooked up to a dialysis machine. That makes you feel okay for a few hours and then by the next day you are feeling like holy hell until you get to the clinic and get back on the dialysis machine again. And if you don't do that...you DIE. Not months or years later...but right away.

Tons more diseases (that are far more common than HIV) that are harder to treat. Don't even mention the big one: Cancer. I'd rather have HIV any day of the week than cancer.

But only HIV and AIDS carry this kind of fear, panic, and social stigma.

hiv is much more preventable than cancer, you aren't genetically predispositioned to hiv..you are always downplaying every negative thing that happens in the industry. do you realize this or is it a subconscious thing?

Robbie · 09-16-2013, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

hiv is much more preventable than cancer, you aren't genetically predispositioned to hiv..you are always downplaying every negative thing that happens in the industry. do you realize this or is it a subconscious thing?

I don't know...maybe it's a subconscious thing like you said.

Oh, and HIV may be more preventable. But it's also less common.

Since 1981 there have been 1.7 million HIV cases in the U.S.
Since 1990 there have been 11 million new cases of cancer.

And of course cancer is very preventable. From the shit we put in our mouth everyday...to our entire lifestyle.

And don't even get started on heart disease...that one is the NUMBER ONE killer. And it's almost entirely preventable...just by exercising and changing what you eat.

Yeah, maybe it's subconscious like you said. I really don't know.

But I DO know that facts are facts. And I DO know that HIV has a social stigma greater than any disease since leprosy.

And I DO know that back when it was an actual death sentence in the 1980's...the biggest star this business ever had: John Holmes, came down with AIDS and died from it.
There was some speculation and fear that it would wipe out the porn industry.

It didn't. And there was less carrying on about it THEN (when AIDS was an epidemic running unchecked AND there was NO Testing) with the biggest adult star in the world than there is with what is happening now.

I tend to think that some people have an agenda to hurt the entire industry.
Yes, this is bad. But we now do testing and it was caught and stopped from further spreading. End of story.

This isn't slavery. We can't force people to not have a sex life outside of shooting fucking porn. And we also can't force people to ENTER porn.

It's free will.

And if anybody claims "I didn't know that having unprotected sex could give me an STD...I thought everyone was tested"...well, then they are not victims...they are fucking stupid.

It isn't like this shit isn't everywhere on billboards, t.v., radio, print warning about HIV since 1981.

Fucking in porn scenes is fun and exciting. This girl and her boyfriend took it to the extremes in their personal life by having group sex with gay guys whom one of which was obviously infected.

That sucks, and in a perfect world (pre-1981), they should have been able to have fun and go on with their lives.

It's not that way anymore. And it's not the fault of the porn "industry" no matter how many people wish it to be so.

JFK · 09-16-2013, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB

have they figured out where he caught it yet?

if it's in the thread, I must have missed it

TRPWL · 09-16-2013, 01:00 PM

Rod is the likely source..Ive documented Rod and Bay/Adams escorting together/dating for last 2 years...Delgado was a toy of both for the most post...Not enough posts to add my story link. but its still trending on my site if you wanna read them..

JustDaveXxx · 09-16-2013, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRPWL

Rod is the likely source..Ive documented Rod and Bay/Adams escorting together/dating for last 2 years...Delgado was a toy of both for the most post...Not enough posts to add my story link. but its still trending on my site if you wanna read them..

You and Mike Whiteacre have been way on point with the right info.

Spoke to him on the phone. very impressed!

You guys go that extra mile to be accurate with what you write.

That I can absolutely stand by.

Keep up the good work.

Just Dave

JFK · 09-16-2013, 05:26 PM

Just had this sent to me

The moratorium on filming will be lifted Friday, September 20th. All performers must test on or after Thursday, September 19th in order to be cleared to work. Additionally, all performers will now be required to test every 14 days in order to be cleared for work.

Our industry protocols are designed to be conservative and our doctors support a conservative approach, for the health and well-being of the performers. That is why moving forward, the physicians have recommended and we have implemented, a 14-day testing protocol.

Subsequent tests of scene partners established that the virus did not originate and was not transmitted on set, and PASS doctors worked closely with the performers to identify 1st generation exposures. No additional incidences of HIV have surfaced.

September 19th marks 14 days since Patient #3 tested positive for HIV. The window period for the HIV RNA Aptima test is seven to ten days, but industry protocols dictate that retests occur 14 days or later as an added precaution.

In addition to the change to a 14-day testing period, FSC?s PASS program plans to work with doctors, workplace safety specialists and performers to support a performer education program.

We can do more to help our performers learn how to protect themselves, on screen and off. While the increased testing will further ensure safer sets, it is important that we remain vigilant. Going forward, we need to constantly look to both performers, producers and health care professionals to find ways to improve our protocols.

Feel free to contact us if you have any questions or would like additional information.

Sincerely,

Diane Duke, CEO
Free Speech Coalition

_Richard_ · 09-16-2013, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRPWL

Rod is the likely source..Ive documented Rod and Bay/Adams escorting together/dating for last 2 years...Delgado was a toy of both for the most post...Not enough posts to add my story link. but its still trending on my site if you wanna read them..

Porno Dan · 09-16-2013, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRPWL

Rod is the likely source..Ive documented Rod and Bay/Adams escorting together/dating for last 2 years...Delgado was a toy of both for the most post...Not enough posts to add my story link. but its still trending on my site if you wanna read them..

http://thereal*************.com/the-...pwl-exclusive/

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth

If anyone thinks I post ALL the dirt I get theyd be wrong.

You should see some of the stuff I DONT run....

Whomever sent you this was 'spot-on'
http://www.mikesouth.com/reader-mail...der-mail-8328/

More facts, not speculation about the current HIV situation

Everyone performer #3 worked with has tested negative, and it has been over a month since she worked with anyone in the adult industry. If any of them had HIV it would have shown up now.

Yes, there are only 3 performers who tested positive. Cameron Bay, her boyfriend Rod Daily, and this performer who is their close friend.

None of three performers who tested positive every worked with each other on camera. Everyone that any of them worked with on camera tested negative.
Since no one they worked on camera tested positive one can deduce that all three contracted it off camera.

Performer # 3 has chosen, as her is right, to no longer help FSC with their investigation, so no one will ever know if her strain of HIV is the same strain as that of Cameron and Rod.

All adult industry performers will be asked to go get new tests next week, as long as there are no new positive tests production will resume late next week.

JFK · 09-17-2013, 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRPWL

Rod is the likely source..Ive documented Rod and Bay/Adams escorting together/dating for last 2 years...Delgado was a toy of both for the most post...Not enough posts to add my story link. but its still trending on my site if you wanna read them..

keep posting, then share the info when you can

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 09-18-2013, 09:11 AM

It appears that the worm has turned:

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Performer #4 Doesn't Exist According to Diane Duke, But AHF Will Feature Him at a Press Conference Today

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Porn Valley - Cameron Bay, Rod Daily and Performer #4 recently infected with HIV while working in the industry will speak out about their treatment by the multi-billion dollar porn business, by Los Angeles County health officials and about accessing health care for their recently acquired infections.

The conference is being held at 10 AM at the AHF Public Health Division building, 1710 N. La Brea Ave., (North of Hollywood Blvd, East side of Street) Los Angeles, CA 90046.

John Doe (case #4) will be available VIA TELECONFERENCE; also making an appearance will be Derrick Burts, adult film performer who became infected with HIV while working in California's adult film industry in 2010
as well as Darren James, the adult film performer who became HIV positive while working in California's adult film industry in 2004, who subsequently infected three female adult film performers.

I suspected this might happen...

What says the mighty FSC now?!?

ADG

RubyGoodnight · 09-18-2013, 10:25 AM

So there's a fifth now?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike South

http://www.mikesouth.com/uncategoriz...mers-are-8358/

And The Fourth and Fitfth HIV Positive Performers Are
By MikeSouth
September 18th, 2013
I was invited to the AHF Teleconference this morning, so I called in and listened. Present were Derrick Burts, Cameron Bay, Rod Daily and the fourth performer, Patrick Stone and Darren James, the only AHF employee of the performers

moratorium being lifted too soon but wouldnt be necessary if we were using condoms.

demonizing AHF will not succeed as a strategy

no industry has been successful at self regulation

Cameron Bay: the industry is uneducated about hiv, not taking sides just telling her story

Rod Daily: always condom scenes mostly gay maybe a few straight, didmt test at cet or tts because he didnt want his results leaked he has shot with positive people but always used condoms. a week after testing positive people are shooting non condom?the industy only concern is money not health of performers. two week testing is all about the money for fsc hiv is manageable like diabetes ahf has gotten cameron and rod their meds

Patrick Stone is fifth works for Kink FSC knew he was positive, he was never contacted by Kink or APHSS after testing positive.He is still scheduled to shoot tomorrow even though he is HIV positive. though it may be a false positive?it isnt confirmed yet

Derrick Burts got no follow up care from the industry so he went to AHF for help. moratoriums are a joke

Darren James nothing has changed since he tested positive, the industry has failed and will continue to fail

this is a rough draft as the conference happens i will continue to update real time

Robbie · 09-18-2013, 10:33 AM

I wonder if she had worked at a Starbucks or a grocery store, etc. if their "industry" would be blamed?

She caught HIV off set through having fun with her bisexual boyfriend. She could have been a secretary at an office and this was still going to happen.

In other words...the infection happened and did not care that she shot porn on the side, or if she had been a construction worker.

The AHF sure knows how to twist words to make things appear in a manner that is supposed to crucify pornography.

And it appears that many of our own people will parrot those twisted statements and not challenge them in any way, shape, or form.

DWB · 09-18-2013, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

It appears that the worm has turned:

I suspected this might happen...

What says the mighty FSC now?!?

ADG

The industry shit on them, so now they are shitting back on the industry. What else did you guys think would happen?

Achmed · 09-18-2013, 11:11 AM

What's mean HIV? Is place for bee to make honey no?

Please explain for Achmeds.

JustDaveXxx · 09-18-2013, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB

The industry shit on them, so now they are shitting back on the industry. What else did you guys think would happen?

Yup,

I hate to say it, but if I got hammered, the way they did and I got HIV, I would say what ever it is I have to say to get my 2K per month med bills paid.

I cant really blame them for it. But I wish they would also say: "When I was doing Gay escorting and Escort BJs with no condom, I wish I would have used a one."

Im not really about "half truths". Tell the whole truth to educate, not half truths to scare for a particular agenda. Thats all I'm saying..

Just Dave

Grapesoda · 09-18-2013, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

And it appears that many of our own people will parrot those twisted statements and not challenge them in any way, shape, or form.

all I can figure is these guys aren't making money or not in the biz at all, or maybe they're just stupid? seriously why else would anyone attack their source of income??? at least MS has come clean with his true relationships and agendas

Grapesoda · 09-18-2013, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx

Yup,

I hate to say it, but if I got hammered, the way they did and I got HIV, I would say what ever it is I have to say to get my 2K per month med bills paid.

I cant really blame them for it. But I wish they would also say: "When I was doing Gay escorting and Escort BJs with no condom, I wish I would have used a one."

Im not really about "half truths". Tell the whole truth to educate, not half truths to scare for a particular agenda. Thats all I'm saying..

Just Dave

is getting hammered a reference to an 'anal sex pounding'????? just askin' you know???

mikesouth · 09-18-2013, 12:16 PM

I was invited to the AHF Teleconference this morning, so I called in and listened. Present were Derrick Burts, Cameron Bay, Rod Daily and the fourth performer, Patrick Stone and Darren James, the only AHF employee of the performers

Everything here is from that press conference instead of waiting to write it up I chose to report it real time…forgive typos and such just trying to keep you guys up to date…itll be hours before you read this elsewhere and you can bet itll be sanitized..this is the raw reporting.

Michael Weinstein pointed out

The moratorium is being lifted too soon but wouldn’t be necessary if we were using condoms.

Demonizing AHF will not succeed as a strategy

No industry has been successful at self regulation

Cameron Bay: The industry is uneducated about HIV, not taking sides just telling her story.

Rod Daily: Always condom scenes mostly gay maybe a few straight, he didn’t test at CET or TTS because he didn’t want his results leaked. He has shot with positive people but always used condoms. The point he is making here is that condoms do work, that he never got HIV until he did something non condom. he didnt say if it was on set or private but he did emphasize that condoms worked. A week after testing positive people are shooting non condom…the industrys only concern is money not health of performers. Two week testing is all about the money for FSC. HIV is manageable like diabetes. AHF has gotten Cameron and Rod their meds.

Patrick Stone is fifth works for Kink FSC knew he was positive, he was never contacted by Kink or APHSS after testing positive. He is still scheduled to shoot tomorrow for Kink outside the moratorium even though he is HIV positive. Though it may be a false positive…it isnt confirmed yet

Derrick Burts: got no follow up care from the industry so he went to AHF for help. moratoriums are a joke

Darren James: nothing has changed since he tested positive, the industry has failed and will continue to fail. Lets stop this

John Doe: performer #4, 2 weeks after a neg test he tested positive, is confirmed, been in the biz two years. workers comp claim filed and denied for insufficient evidence. Wont say which studio until workers comp claim is investigated

Michael Weinstein: Standard operating procedures in porn are a gross violation of the law,. You have to stop taking medical advice from pornographers. Performers are NOT with producers.

Dr Darcy (TTS) tried to help Cameron, he put her in touch with her local county officials Dr Miao did NOT, she found out from John Stagliano what her viral load was. She has filed a Workers Comp claim on kink. At this point her story gets pretty gut wrenching, A performer on her kink shoot cut the tip of his penis and bled and continued to work non condom. She was “touched inappropriately” on kink shoot. She didnt know how unsafe it was until she saw the pictures, it all happened too fast. It seems that she thinks she was infected on that shoot but she did not come out and say that, she did say that her breast was severely damaged on that shoot.

Some industry people have been very supportive per Cameron and RodAHF has been most supportive by far.

Law in CA is that any pre employment testing must be paid by employer

This does not look good for Kink every one of these performers in the recent outbreak have direct ties to Kink.com

Robbie · 09-18-2013, 12:34 PM

So Mike you don't question any of that? You just print what they say and kind of insinuate that you agree with it?

As I asked earlier...Since Cameron Bay NOW says that the "industry" isn't educated...what the fuck was she doing in her personal life? SHE was un-educated (and apparently has been living under a rock her whole life if she wasn't aware of HIV), and now SHE is telling the "industry" that it is uneducated?

Why not question that?

As I said earlier...her boyfriend is the one who passed it on to her. She knew what was going on with him...and joined him in having some fun threesomes.
Also "porn" was not her main income or even a real "job" for her. It was something she did for extra bucks and to increase her viability as an escort (which is smart businesswise).

So with that in mind...she could have been working at the mall, or as a checkout girl at the grocery store and this STILL WOULD HAVE HAPPENED TO HER.

I'm not saying the girl is "bad" or did anything wrong. She is just like millions of other people who want to enjoy life.
But having said that...turning around and blaming the porn industry is fucking ridiculous.

And if you extrapolate it further...she would have not even known she had HIV if not for the testing that was done to shoot a porn scene.
Do you know how many "civilians" go get tested for HIV? Almost nobody.

And she wouldn't have tested, wouldn't have known, and may have found out too late after it turned to AIDS. Then there would be no hope.

Why aren't you bringing this stuff up at all?

The mainstream media is looking at you as a voice for our industry. You need to take a fair assessment of what is being said, who is saying it, and what their motives are.

And I'd keep in mind that the AHF is definitely reaching out to these people. Not because they give a fuck...but because they are USING them to further their agenda.

Please report that Mike. You have a big voice right now. The industry does not have any voice at all. We're nothing but a bunch of people competing against each other.

Rod and Cameron don't need any "support" by the way. ObamaCare mandates that they MUST have insurance (or the govt. pays for it) and that insurance companies MUST cover HIV.

I'd investigate how much money is being offered to these people. It won't be the first time that ex-porn performers found it lucrative to turn on the industry, and it won't be the last.

You're the man. So stand up and cover this thing and not just parrot what the fucking AHF (who wants the END of the porn industry) says.

mikesouth · 09-18-2013, 12:38 PM

i question a lot of it but as the post said this is the raw reporting my opinions arent a part of it it was more important to me to get it out real time than to editorialize it hours after the fact yal;l are smart draw yer own conclusions

mikesouth · 09-18-2013, 12:43 PM

When i saw the Xbiz report I couldnt help thinking...were we even in the same fucking press conference?

Robbie · 09-18-2013, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth

i question a lot of it but as the post said this is the raw reporting my opinions arent a part of it it was more important to me to get it out real time than to editorialize it hours after the fact yal;l are smart draw yer own conclusions

But that's no different than the news organizations taking a press release from the White House and reporting it as gospel.

Come on man...there ain't nobody here smart enough to draw their own conclusions. Most of the people on GFY have never even been on a porn set or know about the lifestyles of the people involved in porn.

You have. And you, and most people who have been in the sex/adult industry for as long as you have....know that the AHF story is bullshit.

You've made your rep as being a no-nonsense kind of guy willing to stand up to bullshit.

I hope you take it to heart and do some sniffing around and present some balancing here. They are only telling half of the story and only the half that is good for them.
It's a half-truth...which makes it a half-lie.

mikesouth · 09-18-2013, 01:38 PM

oh there will be more from me but not off the cuff Im working a lot of things

what porners need to get from this the most is to look at AHF tactics ... they are KILLING US with strong political tactics that we are too dumb to understand to do ourselves....as an industry we are in crisis we need to hire a crisis management pr firm at this point

DWB · 09-18-2013, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

The industry does not have any voice at all. We're nothing but a bunch of people competing against each other.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

there ain't nobody here smart enough to draw their own conclusions.

That's why we got the industry we deserve.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth

what porners need to get from this the most is to look at AHF tactics ... they are KILLING US with strong political tactics that we are too dumb to understand to do ourselves....as an industry we are in crisis we need to hire a crisis management pr firm at this point

But they won't look at the AHF and their tactics. They are still too busy bragging that no transmission happened on set and tooting their own horns as if there has been some sort of victory.

It's almost painful to watch.

09-13-2013, 05:05 PM	#302
Murdoch52 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Portland Posts: 89	Just wanted to add a little to this... Mike South is going around talking about this on his blog and his facts are not correct..... http://www.mikesouth.com/mike-south-...nto-porn-8300/ I know we are all little school kids over here but lets not go added fuel to the fire when we dont know wtf we are talking about.... The person in the ad he posted isnt Sophia in anyway shape or form.... So when we write about raising our standards in the industry lets start by raising our standards in reporting and fact finding... Thats all I got to say about that! __________________ Murdoch 408-569-9209 Skype: Murdoch52 ICQ: 642097811 [email protected]

09-13-2013, 10:07 PM	#309
AsianDivaGirlsWebDude Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 38,323	It's nice that you are a character witness for your friend Kevin, however neither you nor I was there, and only Kevin and the female performer know the truth. I posted what Mike South wrote in order to bring out into the open, and try to get to the bottom of a pretty serious accusation; that one of the companies represented on the FSC Board violated the production moratorium. After your initial post defending Kevin, I e-mailed Mike and asked him wtf? Mike stood by his story, and pointed out that the performer that Kevin said he worked with on Friday was different than the performer whom MS says Kevin worked with on Saturday. I take most hearsay with a grain of salt, so honestly, I still can't tell who is telling the truth. I don't know Mike or Kevin personally, and for anyone reading, Dave and I have never met personally that I am aware of, although I may have met him briefly when I shot at his house years ago, since I am good friends with a guy who was one of his roommates at the time - I've only heard good things about Dave, and consider him a very good shooter (I can even kinda understand how he jumped at the opportunity to work for Manwin, even though many consider them to be the scourge of the industry). Anyway, I feel that there could be some misdirection going on from both sides - for example, Kevin says he never shot with Performer A after the moratorium was in effect, when the performer in question was not Performer A, but instead Performer B, and Mike won't identify who Performer B is (I figured MS was setting a trap and would reveal Performer B's name at some point). My post was an effort to bring this dispute out into the open to see if it was even possible to get to the bottom of this issue. Mike may fly a little fast and loose on occasion, and he has stepped on his dick a time or two (muckraker occupational hazards), however I would say that he raises a lot of important issues no one else likes to talk about, and he has been proven to be correct on many occasions. If nothing else, hopefully this controversy is causing others to not break the production moratorium, or at least to think twice about doing so, realizing that there could be some blowback if they do. Would be nice to have the principles weigh in... ADG __________________ Asian Diva Girls - Exclusive Photos and Videos Asian Diva Girls Affiliate Program (50% ccBill Revshare)

09-13-2013, 10:18 PM	#310
mikesouth Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: My High Horse Posts: 6,334	hey im the first to admit it...if you look in the comments section some of the commenters got it but I explained anyway I caught that it may or may not be the same Sofia Delgado...the pics are 2 yrs old but the point of the ads being posted was simple...whether its her or not theres no shortage of people in adult that WOULD shoot THAT Sofia Delgado as soon as the ink was dry on her test results and thats the mistake we make all too often. I get that Im high profile and that makes me an easy target but some of yall might wanna give things a bit more thought....I dont presume my readers are morons, I would appreciate that they not assume that I am... __________________ Mike South It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

09-14-2013, 09:18 AM	#316
Porno Dan Court Jester Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Budapest Posts: 6,342	More facts, not speculation Everyone performer #3 worked with has tested negative, and it has been over a month since she worked with anyone in the adult industry. Yes, there are only 3 performers who tested positive. Cameron Bay, her boyfriend Rod Daily, and this performer who is their close friend. All performers will be asked to go get new tests next week and as long as there are no new positive tests production will resume late next week. __________________ Reality TV Star, AVN Hall of Fame, Five-Time XBIZ Winner 2021 XBIZ Europe Winner Best Director Site Promote the sites where members get paid to get laid by their favorite porn stars

09-14-2013, 09:52 AM	#317
mikesouth Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: My High Horse Posts: 6,334	If anyone thinks I post ALL the dirt I get theyd be wrong....I didnt post the girls name that he shot because she was new talent from FL who returned to FL the next day and likely was clueless, I havent posted others who are defying the moratorium (I know quite a few) I singled out Kevin because of Christian Manns connection to the FSC who called for the moratorium in the first place but then allows his directors to break it. Christian has the facts now, what he does with them is his call likely kevin will get his hand slapped and that will be the end of it Even I cancelled a shoot today ... none of my guys work for anyone but me and I have a very tight talent pool, but the girl I had scheduled had been to LA and shot once scene there in the last 30 days. It was my call..better safe than sorry. I do believe that in the end everything usually comes out but for me to run certain things like Sofia Delgados name I have to have a pretty good reason. You should see some of the stuff I DONT run.... __________________ Mike South It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

09-13-2013, 05:25 PM	#303
VamosNicholas Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 181	Yeah, I saw the comments on that article earlier. It's funny, there's a line from Zoolander that applies perfectly to so many people in adult. A few days ago I spoofed it a bit for some forum post. Think it applies here too. Although one thing to note... I don't really mind MS and I have nothing against him, but I think at times he tries way too hard. Too many people only looking out for themselves and don't care about damaging someone's reputation or just screwing people over in general... "Do you understand that the world does not revolve around you and your do whatever it takes, ruin as many people's lives, so long as you can make a name for yourself as an investigatory journalist, no matter how many friends you lose or people you leave dead and bloodied along the way, just so long so you can make a name for yourself as an investigatory journalist, no matter how many friends you lose or people you leave dead and bloodied and dying along the way?"

09-14-2013, 05:18 PM	#320
XXXMovie4M Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hell Posts: 359	Not that it really matters at this point but just an observation. Was this an HIV related fever? If so, then that means this photo was taken on or before June 12th. She tested negative for HIV on July 26th and was given the green light to shoot? Am I missing something here or are they completely unrelated? Isn't a high fever one of the first symptoms of acute HIV?

09-15-2013, 10:41 AM	#324
AsianDivaGirlsWebDude Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 38,323	Listen up... Bump for more education. ADG __________________ Asian Diva Girls - Exclusive Photos and Videos Asian Diva Girls Affiliate Program (50% ccBill Revshare)

09-15-2013, 08:10 PM	#325
AsianDivaGirlsWebDude Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 38,323	Rod seemed to be quite conscientious about condoms and testing, making this whole situation an even bigger shame. ADG __________________ Asian Diva Girls - Exclusive Photos and Videos Asian Diva Girls Affiliate Program (50% ccBill Revshare)

09-16-2013, 01:00 PM	#330
TRPWL Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Texas Posts: 73	Rod is the likely source..Ive documented Rod and Bay/Adams escorting together/dating for last 2 years...Delgado was a toy of both for the most post...Not enough posts to add my story link. but its still trending on my site if you wanna read them.. __________________ http://trpwl.com

09-16-2013, 05:26 PM	#332
JFK FUBAR the ORIGINATOR Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: FUBARLAND Posts: 67,374	Just had this sent to me The moratorium on filming will be lifted Friday, September 20th. All performers must test on or after Thursday, September 19th in order to be cleared to work. Additionally, all performers will now be required to test every 14 days in order to be cleared for work. Our industry protocols are designed to be conservative and our doctors support a conservative approach, for the health and well-being of the performers. That is why moving forward, the physicians have recommended and we have implemented, a 14-day testing protocol. Subsequent tests of scene partners established that the virus did not originate and was not transmitted on set, and PASS doctors worked closely with the performers to identify 1st generation exposures. No additional incidences of HIV have surfaced. September 19th marks 14 days since Patient #3 tested positive for HIV. The window period for the HIV RNA Aptima test is seven to ten days, but industry protocols dictate that retests occur 14 days or later as an added precaution. In addition to the change to a 14-day testing period, FSC?s PASS program plans to work with doctors, workplace safety specialists and performers to support a performer education program. We can do more to help our performers learn how to protect themselves, on screen and off. While the increased testing will further ensure safer sets, it is important that we remain vigilant. Going forward, we need to constantly look to both performers, producers and health care professionals to find ways to improve our protocols. Feel free to contact us if you have any questions or would like additional information. Sincerely, Diane Duke, CEO Free Speech Coalition __________________ FUBAR Webmasters - The FUBAR Times - FUBAR Webmasters Mobile - FUBARTV.XXX For promo opps contact jfk at fubarwebmasters dot com

09-18-2013, 10:33 AM	#338
Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,959	I wonder if she had worked at a Starbucks or a grocery store, etc. if their "industry" would be blamed? She caught HIV off set through having fun with her bisexual boyfriend. She could have been a secretary at an office and this was still going to happen. In other words...the infection happened and did not care that she shot porn on the side, or if she had been a construction worker. The AHF sure knows how to twist words to make things appear in a manner that is supposed to crucify pornography. And it appears that many of our own people will parrot those twisted statements and not challenge them in any way, shape, or form. __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com

09-18-2013, 11:11 AM	#340
Achmed Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,447	What's mean HIV? Is place for bee to make honey no? Please explain for Achmeds. __________________ Achmed Oil - Achmed Holdings - Achmed Guns n Ammo Ceo of all companies [email protected] [email protected] آخرون من نفس المجموعة، وهم عبدالرؤوف الشايب وسيد شرف الستري لاعتداء قوات الأمن أثناء تواجدهم في المطار، ويعتبر البعض ذلك تصفية للحسابات قامت به http://tweeter.com/achmedholdings

09-18-2013, 12:16 PM	#344
mikesouth Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: My High Horse Posts: 6,334	I was invited to the AHF Teleconference this morning, so I called in and listened. Present were Derrick Burts, Cameron Bay, Rod Daily and the fourth performer, Patrick Stone and Darren James, the only AHF employee of the performers Everything here is from that press conference instead of waiting to write it up I chose to report it real time…forgive typos and such just trying to keep you guys up to date…itll be hours before you read this elsewhere and you can bet itll be sanitized..this is the raw reporting. Michael Weinstein pointed out The moratorium is being lifted too soon but wouldn’t be necessary if we were using condoms. Demonizing AHF will not succeed as a strategy No industry has been successful at self regulation Cameron Bay: The industry is uneducated about HIV, not taking sides just telling her story. Rod Daily: Always condom scenes mostly gay maybe a few straight, he didn’t test at CET or TTS because he didn’t want his results leaked. He has shot with positive people but always used condoms. The point he is making here is that condoms do work, that he never got HIV until he did something non condom. he didnt say if it was on set or private but he did emphasize that condoms worked. A week after testing positive people are shooting non condom…the industrys only concern is money not health of performers. Two week testing is all about the money for FSC. HIV is manageable like diabetes. AHF has gotten Cameron and Rod their meds. Patrick Stone is fifth works for Kink FSC knew he was positive, he was never contacted by Kink or APHSS after testing positive. He is still scheduled to shoot tomorrow for Kink outside the moratorium even though he is HIV positive. Though it may be a false positive…it isnt confirmed yet Derrick Burts: got no follow up care from the industry so he went to AHF for help. moratoriums are a joke Darren James: nothing has changed since he tested positive, the industry has failed and will continue to fail. Lets stop this John Doe: performer #4, 2 weeks after a neg test he tested positive, is confirmed, been in the biz two years. workers comp claim filed and denied for insufficient evidence. Wont say which studio until workers comp claim is investigated Michael Weinstein: Standard operating procedures in porn are a gross violation of the law,. You have to stop taking medical advice from pornographers. Performers are NOT with producers. Dr Darcy (TTS) tried to help Cameron, he put her in touch with her local county officials Dr Miao did NOT, she found out from John Stagliano what her viral load was. She has filed a Workers Comp claim on kink. At this point her story gets pretty gut wrenching, A performer on her kink shoot cut the tip of his penis and bled and continued to work non condom. She was “touched inappropriately” on kink shoot. She didnt know how unsafe it was until she saw the pictures, it all happened too fast. It seems that she thinks she was infected on that shoot but she did not come out and say that, she did say that her breast was severely damaged on that shoot. Some industry people have been very supportive per Cameron and RodAHF has been most supportive by far. Law in CA is that any pre employment testing must be paid by employer This does not look good for Kink every one of these performers in the recent outbreak have direct ties to Kink.com __________________ Mike South It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

09-18-2013, 12:34 PM	#345
Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,959	So Mike you don't question any of that? You just print what they say and kind of insinuate that you agree with it? As I asked earlier...Since Cameron Bay NOW says that the "industry" isn't educated...what the fuck was she doing in her personal life? SHE was un-educated (and apparently has been living under a rock her whole life if she wasn't aware of HIV), and now SHE is telling the "industry" that it is uneducated? Why not question that? As I said earlier...her boyfriend is the one who passed it on to her. She knew what was going on with him...and joined him in having some fun threesomes. Also "porn" was not her main income or even a real "job" for her. It was something she did for extra bucks and to increase her viability as an escort (which is smart businesswise). So with that in mind...she could have been working at the mall, or as a checkout girl at the grocery store and this STILL WOULD HAVE HAPPENED TO HER. I'm not saying the girl is "bad" or did anything wrong. She is just like millions of other people who want to enjoy life. But having said that...turning around and blaming the porn industry is fucking ridiculous. And if you extrapolate it further...she would have not even known she had HIV if not for the testing that was done to shoot a porn scene. Do you know how many "civilians" go get tested for HIV? Almost nobody. And she wouldn't have tested, wouldn't have known, and may have found out too late after it turned to AIDS. Then there would be no hope. Why aren't you bringing this stuff up at all? The mainstream media is looking at you as a voice for our industry. You need to take a fair assessment of what is being said, who is saying it, and what their motives are. And I'd keep in mind that the AHF is definitely reaching out to these people. Not because they give a fuck...but because they are USING them to further their agenda. Please report that Mike. You have a big voice right now. The industry does not have any voice at all. We're nothing but a bunch of people competing against each other. Rod and Cameron don't need any "support" by the way. ObamaCare mandates that they MUST have insurance (or the govt. pays for it) and that insurance companies MUST cover HIV. I'd investigate how much money is being offered to these people. It won't be the first time that ex-porn performers found it lucrative to turn on the industry, and it won't be the last. You're the man. So stand up and cover this thing and not just parrot what the fucking AHF (who wants the END of the porn industry) says. __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com

09-18-2013, 12:38 PM	#346
mikesouth Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: My High Horse Posts: 6,334	i question a lot of it but as the post said this is the raw reporting my opinions arent a part of it it was more important to me to get it out real time than to editorialize it hours after the fact yal;l are smart draw yer own conclusions __________________ Mike South It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

09-18-2013, 12:43 PM	#347
mikesouth Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: My High Horse Posts: 6,334	When i saw the Xbiz report I couldnt help thinking...were we even in the same fucking press conference? __________________ Mike South It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

09-18-2013, 01:38 PM	#349
mikesouth Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: My High Horse Posts: 6,334	oh there will be more from me but not off the cuff Im working a lot of things what porners need to get from this the most is to look at AHF tactics ... they are KILLING US with strong political tactics that we are too dumb to understand to do ourselves....as an industry we are in crisis we need to hire a crisis management pr firm at this point __________________ Mike South It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.