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lil2rich4u2 · 02-25-2003, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
Why even offer to help people like this?

These fuckers belong in video stores alphabetizing DVDs and talking about what Tarantino's gonna do next.

very sensitive fletch, thanks pal

madthumbs · 02-25-2003, 10:04 PM

i only got 19 off of banners today :-(

jact · 02-25-2003, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

Ok i hear this alot, and for a long time i practiced it. I am going by this theory:
When selling cars, do you just show the buyer the hood and wait for him to put a down payment? You have to let him see the entire package, let him go for a test drive, feel the suspention! Then if he likes it he will whip the CC out.

If you look at the gallery, i could have left off the last 5 pics and made it a bit more "seductive" i supose, But im gambling on the surfur saying "man this chicks colon is fucking nice! I bet if i join i will see more colons!"

Id say "i could be wrong" but after checking my stats again, im pretty sure i am, lol

You're suffering from TMGFCS (Too Much Goddamn Free Content Syndrome). It's not going to get them to sign up, well, not anyone who's been on the net more than 17 minutes and hasn't already gotten through the first four hun listings.

Your text could use a little work too, make it more seductive and they'll click. Also really think about the sponsor you're pushing and the content you're using to push it with. I would have chosen a blondes or babes site to push her with vs an amateur site.

jact · 02-25-2003, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
Why even offer to help people like this?

These fuckers belong in video stores alphabetizing DVDs and talking about what Tarantino's gonna do next.

To try and avoid tomorrow's post about shitty conversions hopefully.

NoCarrier · 02-25-2003, 10:06 PM

People still post links to sponsors directly?!?! At least use a page where you will have your sponsor, and put a blur with different choices like free e-mail programs.

Don't link directly to sponsor. You are losing potential traffic.

Link to something like pleasuredvds.com/sponsor.html

gothweb · 02-25-2003, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

Ok i hear this alot, and for a long time i practiced it. I am going by this theory:
When selling cars, do you just show the buyer the hood and wait for him to put a down payment? You have to let him see the entire package, let him go for a test drive, feel the suspention! Then if he likes it he will whip the CC out.

If you look at the gallery, i could have left off the last 5 pics and made it a bit more "seductive" i supose, But im gambling on the surfur saying "man this chicks colon is fucking nice! I bet if i join i will see more colons!"

Id say "i could be wrong" but after checking my stats again, im pretty sure i am, lol

Everything you need to know is hidden in this post.

1.) Porn isn't a car. Your customers don't want to drive a car for 10 years, they want to ejaculate *now*. If you help them do that, then what are they going to pay for?

2.) You are indeed wrong. You aren't making sales. Listen to people who know more than you.

stevo · 02-25-2003, 10:09 PM

My best advise to you is pick a different niche. Ive never had any luck with teen/amateur content. Too much competition. Switch over to Asian, Latina, Ebony, Mature, Movies, Pornstars or whatever floats your boat - pick something specific. Once you pick a niche, study it as much as possible. Find out what works for you. Search for tgp's that only post galleries specialized in that niche, dont just submit to the main broad tgps.

lil2rich4u2 · 02-25-2003, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NoCarrier
People still post links to sponsors directly?!?! At least use a page where you will have your sponsor, and put a blur with different choices like free e-mail programs.

Don't link directly to sponsor. You are losing potential traffic.

Link to something like pleasuredvds.com/sponsor.html

ya know i never thought of that until 2 days ago, someone showed me how he made this "middle page" between galleries and the sponsor.

The way his was setup i can see how it would help alot, it was a very tempting page linked directly to the join page.

That will be my next experiment.

NoCarrier · 02-25-2003, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

ya know i never thought of that until 2 days ago, someone showed me how he made this "middle page" between galleries and the sponsor.

The way his was setup i can see how it would help alot, it was a very tempting page linked directly to the join page.

That will be my next experiment.

Yeah, and use a sponsor with console free tours. That way, if the surfer is not interested about the paysite, when he closes the page, he will see your previously opened page behind.

gothweb · 02-25-2003, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stevo
My best advise to you is pick a different niche. Ive never had any luck with teen/amateur content. Too much competition. Switch over to Asian, Latina, Ebony, Mature, Movies, Pornstars or whatever floats your boat - pick something specific. Once you pick a niche, study it as much as possible. Find out what works for you. Search for tgp's that only post galleries specialized in that niche, dont just submit to the main broad tgps.

That's what I said. Something cooler!

lil2rich4u2 · 02-25-2003, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gothweb

Everything you need to know is hidden in this post.

1.) Porn isn't a car. Your customers don't want to drive a car for 10 years, they want to ejaculate *now*. If you help them do that, then what are they going to pay for?

2.) You are indeed wrong. You aren't making sales. Listen to people who know more than you.

i respect your advice, mostly because your an experienced webmaster who didnt call me a newbie who belongs in a dvd store, lol

i will be trying alot of this stuff in my next gallery i make

FATPad · 02-25-2003, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

But i really do love it, and i want to do it full time, i just need it to meet me half way kinda, hope thats understandable.

Nope. Not gonna happen.

Either go *GET* your money and sales or forget it. It's not meeting you anywhere.

lil2rich4u2 · 02-25-2003, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stevo
My best advise to you is pick a different niche. Ive never had any luck with teen/amateur content. Too much competition. Switch over to Asian, Latina, Ebony, Mature, Movies, Pornstars or whatever floats your boat - pick something specific.

I really want to, problem is i wouldnt have content to suport my niche.

I will try to buy some cheap content for my next gallery, just to get me into a niche ... dunno how much help cheap content will be, but maybe it will get me listed.

Gman.357 · 02-25-2003, 10:21 PM

No need to bitch.
Make the switch
to a different niche.
It can make you rich.

lil2rich4u2 · 02-25-2003, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gman.357
No need to bitch.
Make the switch
to a different niche.
It can make you rich.

gman.357

wanna grab my icq, we will talk about what you have to offer.

175171926

rdunn404 · 02-25-2003, 10:26 PM

The soul of Spacedog will live forever...

Backov · 02-25-2003, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rdunn404
The soul of Spacedog will live forever...

I thought this was Spacedog?

MiLo · 02-25-2003, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by madthumbs
i only got 19 off of banners today :-(

http://www.monster.com

gothweb · 02-25-2003, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

i respect your advice, mostly because your an experienced webmaster who didnt call me a newbie who belongs in a dvd store, lol

i will be trying alot of this stuff in my next gallery i make

Me, experienced? I wouldn't say that. I just said what everyone else was saying, more nicely.

Snake Doctor · 02-25-2003, 10:41 PM

http://www.pleasuredvds.com/gallerie...how/index.html

Here's Lenny's free gallery advice for the day.
You're using the word free too much. That used to work back in the day when free was rare, but everyone says free now so I think most TGP surfers ignore it. Try using sales text that tells the surfer what's unique about the site you're selling, and how its different and stands out from all of the other crap he's joined before.
Shit like free membership or 100,000 pics or 1000gigs of MPEGS just doesn't pull the clicks anymore. You need to find a "hook", an angle that you use to sell a site from.

The eye moves from left to right, not up and down. Think about that for awhile. Once you grasp that concept it will multiply your sales exponentially.

Fletch XXX · 02-25-2003, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

very sensitive fletch, thanks pal

Why should I have any sympathy for you?

I cant care any less.

Fletch XXX · 02-25-2003, 10:49 PM

Its people who walk around thinking other owe them something thats the main problem.

Whining on a board, sure thats gonna help.

Complaining to a bunch of other people about your problems, yeah that helps.

hahaha

either pick up a drug habit or move back in with mommy.

Fletch XXX · 02-25-2003, 10:50 PM

And if you dont have a drug habit, that <i> could</i> be the problem.

wethoney · 02-25-2003, 10:51 PM

What is your site address anyways? I don't even know what site you are talking about...

NoCarrier · 02-25-2003, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wethoney
What is your site address anyways? I don't even know what site you are talking about...

http://www.Andifyoudonthaveadrughabi...eproble m.com

Fletch XXX · 02-25-2003, 10:56 PM

i firmly believe smoking herbs helps increase sales.

give it a try.

Snake Doctor · 02-25-2003, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NoCarrier

http://www.Andifyoudonthaveadrughabi...eproble m.com

Your site is down

McAttack · 02-25-2003, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FATPad
Nope. Not gonna happen.

Either go *GET* your money and sales or forget it. It's not meeting you anywhere.

Couldn't be any truer. You got to go out and GET that money, if you think you've done everything you can and you have no money, then you DIDN'T do it right, you gotta pull back, re-evaluate your strategy and hit it again.

Ramster · 02-25-2003, 11:04 PM

Why keep pushing only TGP? Are you making free sites you can submit to Link-O-Rama, Richards and the many other link lists that allow more advertising for you to work with?

Just doing TGP when you don't know the game is suicide.

horns · 02-25-2003, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

I really want to, problem is i wouldnt have content to suport my niche.

I will try to buy some cheap content for my next gallery, just to get me into a niche ... dunno how much help cheap content will be, but maybe it will get me listed.

Ok, nice first. Dude, you can get plenty of content from your sponsors, it's free, and most importantly it COMES FROM THE SITE YOU ARE TRYING TO SELL.

Lenny & Gothweb are giving you good advice here. No one is going to hold your hand and show you EXACTLY how to do it though.

To be blunt, your text sucks. Plus, they aren't even links.

Now I'll be a bit nicer and tell you a hint - a surfer can get to the last pic on your gallery, view it, hit the back button, and never even see your bottom link, assuming that he doesn't just close the browser anyway.

Finally, if you are intent on TGPing, pay more attention to what seems to be selling. TGP's can be GREAT money makers if you can figure out the game. I did - second hint - promote sites that aren't overexposed and commercial.

horns · 02-25-2003, 11:36 PM

Whoops, meant to add one more thing. Watch the big TGP's, find sites that aren't being promoted, and then use those sites for your sponsor.

Cindyff · 02-25-2003, 11:40 PM

Hi
First let me tell you that to-day the web sucks big time, dont ask me why it just dose. Maybe its the war maybe its the markets maybe its just the shit weather we are having in the USA. who the fuck knows.
My advice is to keep thinking positive and keep trying come up with some new ideas something that is different from most of the other sites out there. Oh and if you want some quality content give http://www.legalpictures.com a buzz. I have e-mailed the owner about your situation and i am sure he can work out a deal to get you some quality images for free.
Keep it up

Cindy xx

Max Walker · 02-25-2003, 11:51 PM

I went through this phase once - I took a couple of days off, rested, re-evaluated my strategy and went back to work.

It will come slowly at first....

models · 02-25-2003, 11:57 PM

look, the adult web business is tough.

and very difficult if you do not produce your own unique content.

it is not enough just to put a a few pix of a naked gal up and get signups.

that worked somewhat in 1997.

it does not work today when digital cameras are a few hundred dollars, DV video cameras are 500 bucks, and any college kid can pimp his girlfriend to do a POV blowjob for free and create a facial website in 3 hours.

the market is SATURATED. you must go in a different direction.

the surfer signup is more and more content driven. the surfer now wants a more personal, emotional contact for a monthly recurring membership. which means you must get into the surfer's head a little bit...talk to him (her), write motivating copy, understand the demographics of your market.

create unique, high quality content. do not even look at how others do it, otherwise it won't be unique.

and then market it yourself, without affiliates.

constantly test and tweak, appeal to people that can actually buy your product. the surfers with money have broadband---give them high quality big files.

and you will make it in this business, if you pay attention to the market and work hard, and have some natural talent. if you do not have talent then all bets are off.

the signups will increase by 50% as soon as the war nears a successful conclusion.

lil2rich4u2 · 02-26-2003, 06:29 PM

Ok taking advice from a bunch of people here as well as a few ICQ buddies, i came up with this:

http://www.pleasuredvds.com/galleries2/ebony/index.html

i know alot of people said 20 pics is a bit much, but i figured this is such a mild set, and it may get me listed in some more places.

The only thing is, i dont see myself doing much "selling" in here. What can i do to spice it up a bit?

I intentionally left out the mouseover because i heard good and bad things about it, figured id try to leave it out this time.

Any comments or suggestions?

AdultNex · 02-26-2003, 06:58 PM

Add more graphical text that will lure the user to signup.

IMO, there should be at least 3 places where the user can click on to get to the 'paysite'.

This is a good example of such a gallery: http://www.adultscreen.net/teens/teen25_12/html6.html

lil2rich4u2 · 02-26-2003, 07:41 PM

ok ill try, any other suggestions?

GoLiaT · 02-26-2003, 07:41 PM

work niches instead man
like hairy pussy or shemale and stuff
works much better

magnatique · 02-26-2003, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

Ok i hear this alot, and for a long time i practiced it. I am going by this theory:
When selling cars, do you just show the buyer the hood and wait for him to put a down payment? You have to let him see the entire package, let him go for a test drive, feel the suspention! Then if he likes it he will whip the CC out.

If you look at the gallery, i could have left off the last 5 pics and made it a bit more "seductive" i supose, But im gambling on the surfur saying "man this chicks colon is fucking nice! I bet if i join i will see more colons!"

Id say "i could be wrong" but after checking my stats again, im pretty sure i am, lol

buddy, compare apples with apples...

you'r going on the assumption that someone who will pay 20.000-100,000 on a car will do the same with candy...

cars are a well thought purchase...

memberships are like candy... it's an impulsive purchase, to fill a need that wasn't fully filled...

if your assumption was good, people would have a free run at a whore before buying her... ain't gonna happen... sex is impulsive...

use that to your advantage.. get the guy hard, don't get him to blow his load or see what he WANTS to see... you go for the guy who likes that chicks, and wants to see more of her...

magnatique · 02-26-2003, 07:58 PM

read this, and apply....

I wrote that to teach a buddy about 2 years ago... and it seems some people thought it useful since I meet people I don't know that read that shit lol.... I took what I was told and put it all together there 2 years ago... biz change, but there's things that stay... it's pretty universal...

http://www.freenudegalleries.com/guide/

galleries are way harder to sell these days man... I barely touch it now...

lil2rich4u2 · 02-26-2003, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by magnatique
galleries are way harder to sell these days man... I barely touch it now...

what do you do now?

lil2rich4u2 · 02-26-2003, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by magnatique
read this, and apply....

I wrote that to teach a buddy about 2 years ago... and it seems some people thought it useful since I meet people I don't know that read that shit lol.... I took what I was told and put it all together there 2 years ago... biz change, but there's things that stay... it's pretty universal...

http://www.freenudegalleries.com/guide/

galleries are way harder to sell these days man... I barely touch it now...

btw nice article!

tycoon · 02-26-2003, 09:50 PM

Send me an email and I will help you out....or someone in my office will.

[email protected]

Snake Doctor · 02-26-2003, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tycoon
Send me an email and I will help you out....or someone in my office will.

[email protected]

Yeah like you guys know anything about converting gallery traffic

magnatique · 02-26-2003, 10:56 PM

I'm on the other side of the fence now, work with jasonandalex.com ... take care of an affiliate...

DrGuile · 02-26-2003, 11:25 PM

a 1000 posts since october 2002....

yeah, you're reaally busy....

lil2rich4u2 · 02-27-2003, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DrGuile
a 1000 posts since october 2002....

yeah, you're reaally busy....

you try sitting here sometimes 15hrs a day not knowing what to do or how to do it.

lil2rich4u2 · 02-27-2003, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tycoon
Send me an email and I will help you out....or someone in my office will.

[email protected]

email sent

Rep · 02-27-2003, 06:33 PM

where's labret with that STFU NEWBIE pic when you need it

Pornkings · 02-27-2003, 06:46 PM

you want to see galleries that convert.. look below and learn

http://www.teenbadgirls.com/tgp/tbg5/affiliates/?102395
http://www.collegebadgirls.com/tgp/c...liates/?102395
http://www.skinnybitches.com/tgp/sb1/affiliates/?102395
http://www.adultpussy.com/tgp/ap6/affiliates/?102395

02-25-2003, 10:06 PM	#55
NoCarrier We need more free porn Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 16,356	People still post links to sponsors directly?!?! At least use a page where you will have your sponsor, and put a blur with different choices like free e-mail programs. Don't link directly to sponsor. You are losing potential traffic. Link to something like pleasuredvds.com/sponsor.html __________________

02-25-2003, 10:21 PM	#64
Gman.357 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 2,796	No need to bitch. Make the switch to a different niche. It can make you rich. __________________ Ouch.

02-25-2003, 10:41 PM	#70
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	http://www.pleasuredvds.com/gallerie...how/index.html Here's Lenny's free gallery advice for the day. You're using the word free too much. That used to work back in the day when free was rare, but everyone says free now so I think most TGP surfers ignore it. Try using sales text that tells the surfer what's unique about the site you're selling, and how its different and stands out from all of the other crap he's joined before. Shit like free membership or 100,000 pics or 1000gigs of MPEGS just doesn't pull the clicks anymore. You need to find a "hook", an angle that you use to sell a site from. The eye moves from left to right, not up and down. Think about that for awhile. Once you grasp that concept it will multiply your sales exponentially. __________________ sig too big

02-25-2003, 10:49 PM	#72
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	Its people who walk around thinking other owe them something thats the main problem. Whining on a board, sure thats gonna help. Complaining to a bunch of other people about your problems, yeah that helps. hahaha either pick up a drug habit or move back in with mommy. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

02-25-2003, 10:50 PM	#73
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	And if you dont have a drug habit, that <i> could</i> be the problem. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

02-25-2003, 10:04 PM	#52
madthumbs Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 339	i only got 19 off of banners today :-(

02-25-2003, 10:09 PM	#57
stevo Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 2,051	My best advise to you is pick a different niche. Ive never had any luck with teen/amateur content. Too much competition. Switch over to Asian, Latina, Ebony, Mature, Movies, Pornstars or whatever floats your boat - pick something specific. Once you pick a niche, study it as much as possible. Find out what works for you. Search for tgp's that only post galleries specialized in that niche, dont just submit to the main broad tgps.

02-25-2003, 10:26 PM	#66
rdunn404 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 999	The soul of Spacedog will live forever...

02-25-2003, 10:51 PM	#74
wethoney So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,032	What is your site address anyways? I don't even know what site you are talking about...

02-25-2003, 10:56 PM	#76
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	i firmly believe smoking herbs helps increase sales. give it a try. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

02-25-2003, 11:04 PM	#79
Ramster Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 1,447	Why keep pushing only TGP? Are you making free sites you can submit to Link-O-Rama, Richards and the many other link lists that allow more advertising for you to work with? Just doing TGP when you don't know the game is suicide. __________________ Fcuk Cash - Backroom Casting Couch, ExCoGi, BlackAmbush DarkReach Cash - Top Pornstars & Sites Skype: robmurray999 Email: rob-at-paysitemanagers.com

02-25-2003, 11:36 PM	#81
horns Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: where? Posts: 238	Whoops, meant to add one more thing. Watch the big TGP's, find sites that aren't being promoted, and then use those sites for your sponsor.

02-25-2003, 11:40 PM	#82
Cindyff Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: California Posts: 1,187	Hi First let me tell you that to-day the web sucks big time, dont ask me why it just dose. Maybe its the war maybe its the markets maybe its just the shit weather we are having in the USA. who the fuck knows. My advice is to keep thinking positive and keep trying come up with some new ideas something that is different from most of the other sites out there. Oh and if you want some quality content give http://www.legalpictures.com a buzz. I have e-mailed the owner about your situation and i am sure he can work out a deal to get you some quality images for free. Keep it up Cindy xx

02-25-2003, 11:51 PM	#83
Max Walker Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vancity Baby Posts: 41	I went through this phase once - I took a couple of days off, rested, re-evaluated my strategy and went back to work. It will come slowly at first.... __________________

02-25-2003, 11:57 PM	#84
models Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: chicago Posts: 118	look, the adult web business is tough. and very difficult if you do not produce your own unique content. it is not enough just to put a a few pix of a naked gal up and get signups. that worked somewhat in 1997. it does not work today when digital cameras are a few hundred dollars, DV video cameras are 500 bucks, and any college kid can pimp his girlfriend to do a POV blowjob for free and create a facial website in 3 hours. the market is SATURATED. you must go in a different direction. the surfer signup is more and more content driven. the surfer now wants a more personal, emotional contact for a monthly recurring membership. which means you must get into the surfer's head a little bit...talk to him (her), write motivating copy, understand the demographics of your market. create unique, high quality content. do not even look at how others do it, otherwise it won't be unique. and then market it yourself, without affiliates. constantly test and tweak, appeal to people that can actually buy your product. the surfers with money have broadband---give them high quality big files. and you will make it in this business, if you pay attention to the market and work hard, and have some natural talent. if you do not have talent then all bets are off. the signups will increase by 50% as soon as the war nears a successful conclusion.

02-26-2003, 06:29 PM	#85
lil2rich4u2 ICQ: 175171926 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New York, NY Posts: 11,046	Ok taking advice from a bunch of people here as well as a few ICQ buddies, i came up with this: http://www.pleasuredvds.com/galleries2/ebony/index.html i know alot of people said 20 pics is a bit much, but i figured this is such a mild set, and it may get me listed in some more places. The only thing is, i dont see myself doing much "selling" in here. What can i do to spice it up a bit? I intentionally left out the mouseover because i heard good and bad things about it, figured id try to leave it out this time. Any comments or suggestions?

02-26-2003, 06:58 PM	#86
AdultNex Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bostonnnn Posts: 8,985	Add more graphical text that will lure the user to signup. IMO, there should be at least 3 places where the user can click on to get to the 'paysite'. This is a good example of such a gallery: http://www.adultscreen.net/teens/teen25_12/html6.html

02-26-2003, 07:41 PM	#87
lil2rich4u2 ICQ: 175171926 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New York, NY Posts: 11,046	ok ill try, any other suggestions?

02-26-2003, 07:41 PM	#88
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02-26-2003, 07:58 PM	#90
magnatique Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,830	read this, and apply.... I wrote that to teach a buddy about 2 years ago... and it seems some people thought it useful since I meet people I don't know that read that shit lol.... I took what I was told and put it all together there 2 years ago... biz change, but there's things that stay... it's pretty universal... http://www.freenudegalleries.com/guide/ galleries are way harder to sell these days man... I barely touch it now... __________________ Stunner Media Programs: StandAhead \| IndieBucks \| BoyCrushCash \| Phoenixxx \| EmoProfits \| BritishBucks \| HunkMoney \| LatinoBucks Make $$$ with Gay! Lowest Minimum Payouts in the Business, Perfect Track Record, Amazing Sites

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