Our government has a secret email system?

[Rochard]

Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker has been using a "secret email system"

Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker is claiming that the release of a huge volume of internal documents conveyed via a secret e-mail system is ?old news.? He claims the investigation and court case have been decided and so it should be of no interest to anyone. According to the breaking Associated Press (AP) story, six former associates and aides of Walker who were convicted had been investigated for executing campaign work while they should have been conducting official Milwaukee County business.

If that's not bad enough, it seems half of his staff has recently been convicted, but of course he knows nothing about it.

Walker has for the last two years denied any wrong-doing with respect to campaign activity despite three former aides being convicted of using the secret e-mail system that he is calling ?old news.? The three aides were among the six convicted.

Our government is so fucked up.

http://guardianlv.com/2014/02/walker...stem-old-news/

[EddyTheDog]

So some people were doing work on one thing while they should have been doing another?..

Not exactly earth shattering - Or am I missing something?....

[Penny24Seven]

old news

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Brian837

old news

I don't live in Wisconsin so it's new news to me... He's running around hiding shit, using secret email systems, and half of his staff is in prison protecting him.

[dyna mo]

rochard, I'll send ya an invite to the secret email system, it's called gmail, but shhh, don't tell anyone.

[EddyTheDog]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I don't live in Wisconsin so it's new news to me... He's running around hiding shit, using secret email systems, and half of his staff is in prison protecting him.

What is a secret email system?..

It doesn't make sense.....

[Matt 26z]

He can downplay it, but this scandal ruins his political aspirations on the national level.

[Magnetron]

His staff was secretly mining for Bitcoins until they pushed through the new mining regulations making it legal to do so on state owned computers.

[rogueteens]

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

What is a secret email system?..

It doesn't make sense.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intranet

Loads of big companies use them, I had an NHS intranet email when I worked for them.

[EddyTheDog]

Originally Posted by rogueteens

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intranet

Loads of big companies use them, I had an NHS intranet email when I worked for them.

Intranet email isn't 'secret email' - Its a standard in loads of places as you say - The thread title makes it sound cloak and dagger and conspiratorial...

[rogueteens]

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

The thread title makes it sound cloak and dagger and conspiratorial...

I think that was probably the idea.

[notinmybackyard]

Originally Posted by Brian837

old news

This sort of thing was old news back in the 60s.

[Barry-xlovecam]

The government should use Gmail like everyone else

Yes, I know there are supposed to be subpoena email records kept. You can ask for them under the FOI and the good stuff will be REDACTED OUT. Notwithstanding some criminal cases, they declared "national security" and are viewed under seal in the courts: So, what is the difference really?

[dyna mo]

I was serious when I replied above about it being gmail, they used unofficial gmail and yahoo email accounts to communicate. That's the secret email "system".

Court documents previously have shown Walker's county aides set up a secret wireless router in the county executive's office and traded emails that mixed county and campaign business on Gmail and Yahoo accounts.

[Markul]

How is that a surprise. Lots of big companies use their own internal mail systems. I would have expected especially governments to do that too.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

I was serious when I replied above about it being gmail, they used unofficial gmail and yahoo email accounts to communicate. That's the secret email "system".

Yes but they were doing outside of the government system so in the even anything was released to the public the truth would remain hidden. Not only was it exposed, but seems three of his staff went to jail over it.

Isn't this the guy Minte was raving about?

[Sly]

LOL. Are we really talking about Gmail, Yahoo, and intranet?

Ahahaha.

Have you guys heard about the secret government bathrooms? Yes, it's true, Scott Walker has a private bathroom attached to his office!

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Yes but they were doing outside of the government system so in the even anything was released to the public the truth would remain hidden. Not only was it exposed, but seems three of his staff went to jail over it.

Isn't this the guy Minte was raving about?

Yes, I understand that, nevertheless, the government doesn't have a secret email system.

You'll have to take up your comment re: politicians with Minte, I do my best to stay out of all that around here.

[brassmonkey]

they hold all kinds of secrets

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

Yes, I understand that, nevertheless, the government doesn't have a secret email system.

You'll have to take up your comment re: politicians with Minte, I do my best to stay out of all that around here.

So they don't have a secret email system, they just email outside of the government email system to hide things from the people who elected them.

Got it.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I don't live in Wisconsin so it's new news to me... He's running around hiding shit, using secret email systems, and half of his staff is in prison protecting him.

Secret, doesn't mean some underground govt email system, it just means non publicly disclosed email accounts. All elected officials and their staff by law have to use known public email accounts and they have to keep the emails as public record. Doesn't mean they are open for anyone to read, but they have to be obtainable by judge order.

By using undisclosed email,accounts they were breaking the law and likely trying to circumvent public access in order to hide shady shit and under the table deals. This isn't a "simple" mistake, my cousin is a staffer for a very well known congressman and it's something all staffers are certainly made aware of and they know to follow the law.

If Walker's staffers were doing this, they certainly knew they were breaking the law and you know damn well they didn't do it on their own. It's very obvious that something like this is just a way for the guys in charge to claim they knew nothing, which of course Scott Walker will claim. He will also be lying it ass off when he says this.

The other issue, is staffers are not aloud to do campaign work on the govt's dime. That means they can not do work on the campaign while the tax payers are paying their salaries. This means if he was using staffers to make campaign calls or what ever while they were getting a govt paycheck they were breaking the law. They have to be off the govt's time clock while doing campaign work.

They would have to be off the govt clock while doing campaign work. This is for the very obvious reason of not having tax payers funding a sitting candidate's campaign giving him a unfair advantage.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by crockett

Secret, doesn't mean some underground govt email system, it just means non publicly disclosed email accounts. All elected officials and their staff by law have to use known public email accounts and they have to keep the emails as public record. Doesn't mean they are open for anyone to read, but they have to be obtainable by judge order.

By using undisclosed email,accounts they were breaking the law and likely trying to circumvent public access in order to hide shady shit and under the table deals. This isn't a "simple" mistake, my cousin is a staffer for a very well known congressman and it's something all staffers are certainly made aware of and they know to follow the law.

If Walker's staffers were doing this, they certainly knew they were breaking the law and you know damn well they didn't do it on their own. It's very obvious that something like this is just a way for the guys in charge to claim they knew nothing, which of course Scott Walker will claim. He will also be lying it ass off when he says this.

The other issue, is staffers are not aloud to do campaign work on the govt's dime. That means they can not do work on the campaign while the tax payers are paying their salaries. This means if he was using staffers to make campaign calls or what ever while they were getting a govt paycheck they were breaking the law. They have to be off the govt's time clock while doing campaign work.

They would have to be off the govt clock while doing campaign work. This is for the very obvious reason of not having tax payers funding a sitting candidate's campaign giving him a unfair advantage.

It seems to me they intentionally used third party email to hide what they were doing. Keep in mind here that people went to prison because of what they did, not the fact that they were using gmail.

That's like avoiding the phone in the governor's office and using a burner phone that no one can trace.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by Sly

LOL. Are we really talking about Gmail, Yahoo, and intranet?

Ahahaha.

Have you guys heard about the secret government bathrooms? Yes, it's true, Scott Walker has a private bathroom attached to his office!

No Shit ?

[BenGentlemen]

email sucks!