Is it ok to use the services of a prostitute for a photo shoot? - GoFuckYourself.com

Quoth the Raven · 02-21-2003, 09:49 PM

Can you get arrested for hiring a call girl just to shoot some photos even if prostitution is illegal.

jact · 02-21-2003, 09:51 PM

Good question... I dunno?

LiveDose · 02-21-2003, 09:53 PM

I think some agencies call it lingerie modeling. Just don't fuck her, that might be riskier seeing as her trade is selling booty.

bogo · 02-21-2003, 09:53 PM

do one legged ducks swim in circles?

NastyJack · 02-21-2003, 09:54 PM

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Originally posted by Quoth the Raven
Can you get arrested for hiring a call girl just to shoot some photos even if prostitution is illegal.

Of course you can.
What are you going to tell the cop?
You wanted to hire her for a photo shoot!

Doubt they would go for it.

Quoth the Raven · 02-21-2003, 09:59 PM

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Originally posted by NastyJack

Of course you can.
What are you going to tell the cop?
You wanted to hire her for a photo shoot!

Doubt they would go for it.

What about the release form you make her sign before the shoot. Doesn't that cover you?

BrutalMaster · 02-22-2003, 12:03 AM

Pics aren't sex. If you make it clear that you are hiring her as a model it would not stand up in court.

Pretend for a moment she's not a whore, she's an undercover cop...and you tell her you are a photographer, and you want to photograph her hand for a cold cream magazine layout...what on Earth could they arrest you for? Felony cold cream?

And if you phoned an escort agency, again...taking photos of adults is not illegal, even if they are naked.

How many models have been hookers or escorts of prostiutes at some point? It's like asking if it's illegal to hire a 'prostitute' as a waitress.

Brutal

psyko514 · 02-22-2003, 12:40 AM

Prostitution isn't illegal in Quebec.

EscortBiz · 02-22-2003, 12:48 AM

arressted yes will you be found guilty depends where what when

eRock · 02-22-2003, 12:54 AM

The chances of you get busted for even nailin' a hooker is VERY slim. I wouldn't worry about it unless you're pickin' up oiff the street corner...than it could be an undercover, but an escort outta the book wouldn't be a problem at all.

And for Nasty Jack...you could always tell the cop that she's just company for the evening & you were takin' some pics. There's nothing illegal about that.

Get some balls people...

EscortBiz · 02-22-2003, 12:58 AM

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Originally posted by eRock
The chances of you get busted for even nailin' a hooker is VERY slim. I wouldn't worry about it unless you're pickin' up oiff the street corner...than it could be an undercover, but an escort outta the book wouldn't be a problem at all.

And for Nasty Jack...you could always tell the cop that she's just company for the evening & you were takin' some pics. There's nothing illegal about that.

Get some balls people...

exactly

eRock · 02-22-2003, 01:00 AM

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Originally posted by psyko514
Prostitution isn't illegal in Quebec.

Are the hookers good lookin' there?

Paul Markham · 02-22-2003, 01:04 AM

Your only problem will be when she arrives.

They generally make very bad models, the good ones are not interested in your money, the bad ones are just bad.

Ovwer the years I have show a few good ones, but not enough to recommend them.

Just make sure she is being paid for the modelling not the sex. Even if the pictures are for your own personal use, dificult to get a conviction.

goBigtime · 02-22-2003, 01:11 AM

How do escort agencies feel about that though?

Ie. say you use escorts and make a reality site like MILF for instance.

How does this usually go over with the escort business owners/pimps/whatever?

Damn.. in the process of typing this I just thought of a *fantastic* reality site concept

Ironhorse · 02-22-2003, 04:25 AM

Usually the John stings are just to scare and embarass potential customers. In most cases these guys are married and they don't want theire wives finding out so they go to the special counselling class they offer. I doubt you can get convicted.

Quoth the Raven · 02-22-2003, 08:45 AM

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Originally posted by psyko514
Prostitution isn't illegal in Quebec.

Since our stay in Quebec, there were at least half a dozen escort agencies that were busted for prostitution.

psyko514 · 02-22-2003, 10:04 AM

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Originally posted by Quoth the Raven
Since our stay in Quebec, there were at least half a dozen escort agencies that were busted for prostitution.

The act of prostitution is not illegal. Paying for sex is legal, and being paid for sex is legal.

Soliciting is illegal.

The escort agencies that got busted were breaking other laws (abuse of the girls, underaged girls, solicitation, etc)

NoCarrier · 02-22-2003, 10:06 AM

Would the hooker accept being photographed in the first place? I don't think she will feel comfortable with this! haha.. Unless you show some big $$$

Why not use a professional model instead. At least you won't have to retouch the needle wounds in photoshop.

psyko514 · 02-22-2003, 10:10 AM

Is prostitution legal in Montreal ?
http://elysa.uqam.ca/dsexo/english/0...0468-2905m.htm

What's the Situation in Montreal?
http://www.altmtl.ca/sextrade.htm

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The act of prostitution in Canada is not illegal. But communicating in public for the purpose of prostitution is illegal for customers and prostitutes, as is living off the avails of prostitution.

sweetdesigns · 02-22-2003, 10:31 AM

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Originally posted by NoCarrier
Would the hooker accept being photographed in the first place? I don't think she will feel comfortable with this! haha.. Unless you show some big $$$

Why not use a professional model instead. At least you won't have to retouch the needle wounds in photoshop.

on the other hand even the pros have to be CORRECTED sometimes and I dont mean the needle wounds

Quoth the Raven · 02-22-2003, 11:04 AM

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Originally posted by NoCarrier
Why not use a professional model instead.

Because these French Canadian models have a reputation of showing up when they feel like it, and sometime they don't even show up at all. You can't run a business paying people by the hour and don't know if and when the model will come. At least with a call girl, she understands time is money and will show up on time. Plus they're less expensive;)

NoCarrier · 02-22-2003, 11:47 AM

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Originally posted by Quoth the Raven

Because these French Canadian models have a reputation of showing up when they feel like it, and sometime they don't even show up at all. You can't run a business paying people by the hour and don't know if and when the model will come. At least with a call girl, she understands time is money and will show up on time. Plus they're less expensive;)

If you were a callgirl, would you agree to let someone taking pictures of you even for cash? I don't think so. And what about the model id ? Do you think she's going to give you her personnal information?!

Well.. I am sure you will find some that might want to do it, but with the legality issues and the hassles, I don't see why this is going to be useful.

Gutterboy · 02-22-2003, 11:49 AM

Take a look at the law. To get arrested for soliciting (at least in the US) you have to actually offer money for sex. That is why when you see these undercover cop programs where the female officers play hooker to catch johns, they're always very careful to have the john specify the amount of money he's willing to pay for a specific sex act.

If the john doesn't take the bait and says he just wants to "party" or something, there really isn't shit they can do.

UnseenWorld · 02-22-2003, 12:14 PM

Here in Oregon (and local laws apply, so this may not work for you), as long as a camera is rolling and the model isn't performing sex for the enjoyment of anyone present, and as long as she has signed a release, it can't be prosecuted for solicitation or prostitution. Or at least that's my understanding. (I'm not an attorney, and you should consult a local attorney for an opinion...In case you hadn't noticed, we are webmasters not lawyers here.)

UnseenWorld · 02-22-2003, 12:16 PM

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Originally posted by Quoth the Raven

Because these French Canadian models have a reputation of showing up when they feel like it, and sometime they don't even show up at all. You can't run a business paying people by the hour and don't know if and when the model will come. At least with a call girl, she understands time is money and will show up on time. Plus they're less expensive;)

And you think a crack ho will be more reliable than a sober model? What planet are YOU living on? And then there's the whole pimp thing you'd have to deal with. Screw that!

Quoth the Raven · 02-22-2003, 02:51 PM

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Originally posted by UnseenWorld
And you think a crack ho will be more reliable than a sober model? ... And then there's the whole pimp thing you'd have to deal with. Screw that

Chances are the ho will be driven by the pimp's chauffeur to your hotel/studio. If you paid the girl the amount agreed, why would her pimp bother you?

Manny The Freak · 02-22-2003, 02:57 PM

No it ain't. I have shot a prostitute. I have even recruited a few for shoots.

Manny The Freak · 02-22-2003, 02:58 PM

If you do the necesary paper work adendim and she 2257 compliant it is not illegal.

NoCarrier · 02-22-2003, 03:13 PM

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Originally posted by Quoth the Raven

Chances are the ho will be driven by the pimp's chauffeur to your hotel/studio. If you paid the girl the amount agreed, why would her pimp bother you?

Why are you asking the question if you are trying to convince us it's ok!? Just do it..

What is the purpose of this thread exactly?!

Quoth the Raven · 02-22-2003, 03:34 PM

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Originally posted by NoCarrier

Why are you asking the question if you are trying to convince us it's ok!? Just do it..

What is the purpose of this thread exactly?!

The purpose is to find out if it is legal to call an escort agency and have a call girl come over for a photo shoot.

steffie · 02-22-2003, 05:09 PM

Ah, my favourite topic lol

Using Callgirls as Models is very common. A lot of girls started as Adult Entertainers offline and than work their way into the modeling, amateur industry. A LOT of Amateurs are still in the "Adult offline Entertainement" business for more income.

I get about 1 or 2 calls per week from Adult Photographer wanting to shoot girls, I do ask them, however I do tell them what is involved. Their face on the net,, etc etc etc..

Most Escorts shy away from it unless they are certain and want to make a definite career out of the net.

If you go to Adult Models for hire sites you see a lot of Escorts advertising for availibility in shoots.

The legality is simple. You are NOT hiring her for Sex, but you are hiring her to star in one of your adult movies, which is perfectly legal.

However, if you pay her, have sex with her off camera, that's prostitution. Period. As long as the camera rolls its legal pornography. So make sure the camera is on!

Steffie

Toker · 02-22-2003, 05:13 PM

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Originally posted by Quoth the Raven
Can you get arrested for hiring a call girl just to shoot some photos even if prostitution is illegal.

Try Dial a Hoe..................
Go to one of the titty bars and get someone to pose, cheaper and legal!

asuna · 02-22-2003, 05:29 PM

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Originally posted by Quoth the Raven

Since our stay in Quebec, there were at least half a dozen escort agencies that were busted for prostitution.

All because of manny!

Quoth the Raven · 02-22-2003, 06:08 PM

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Originally posted by Toker
Go to one of the titty bars and get someone to pose, cheaper and legal!

Strippers are the worse. They just take our phone number and never bother to call.

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BrutalMaster Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New England, US Posts: 256	Pics aren't sex. If you make it clear that you are hiring her as a model it would not stand up in court. Pretend for a moment she's not a whore, she's an undercover cop...and you tell her you are a photographer, and you want to photograph her hand for a cold cream magazine layout...what on Earth could they arrest you for? Felony cold cream? And if you phoned an escort agency, again...taking photos of adults is not illegal, even if they are naked. How many models have been hookers or escorts of prostiutes at some point? It's like asking if it's illegal to hire a 'prostitute' as a waitress. Brutal __________________ "Don't worry, I won't bite...oh, wait a minute, I forgot, yes I will." www.brutalmaster.com

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eRock Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Chi-town Posts: 3,112	The chances of you get busted for even nailin' a hooker is VERY slim. I wouldn't worry about it unless you're pickin' up oiff the street corner...than it could be an undercover, but an escort outta the book wouldn't be a problem at all. And for Nasty Jack...you could always tell the cop that she's just company for the evening & you were takin' some pics. There's nothing illegal about that. Get some balls people... __________________ Swiftwill Hosting

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goBigtime Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,761	How do escort agencies feel about that though? Ie. say you use escorts and make a reality site like MILF for instance. How does this usually go over with the escort business owners/pimps/whatever? Damn.. in the process of typing this I just thought of a fantastic reality site concept

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Ironhorse Pixel Pusher Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,093	Usually the John stings are just to scare and embarass potential customers. In most cases these guys are married and they don't want theire wives finding out so they go to the special counselling class they offer. I doubt you can get convicted. __________________ [email protected]

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NoCarrier We need more free porn Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 16,356	Would the hooker accept being photographed in the first place? I don't think she will feel comfortable with this! haha.. Unless you show some big $$$ Why not use a professional model instead. At least you won't have to retouch the needle wounds in photoshop. __________________

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Gutterboy So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Dis Posts: 4,751	Take a look at the law. To get arrested for soliciting (at least in the US) you have to actually offer money for sex. That is why when you see these undercover cop programs where the female officers play hooker to catch johns, they're always very careful to have the john specify the amount of money he's willing to pay for a specific sex act. If the john doesn't take the bait and says he just wants to "party" or something, there really isn't shit they can do.

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UnseenWorld Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Portland, OR, USA Posts: 5,279	Here in Oregon (and local laws apply, so this may not work for you), as long as a camera is rolling and the model isn't performing sex for the enjoyment of anyone present, and as long as she has signed a release, it can't be prosecuted for solicitation or prostitution. Or at least that's my understanding. (I'm not an attorney, and you should consult a local attorney for an opinion...In case you hadn't noticed, we are webmasters not lawyers here.) __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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steffie Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Somewhere in the Mountains, far far away Posts: 2,422	Ah, my favourite topic lol Using Callgirls as Models is very common. A lot of girls started as Adult Entertainers offline and than work their way into the modeling, amateur industry. A LOT of Amateurs are still in the "Adult offline Entertainement" business for more income. I get about 1 or 2 calls per week from Adult Photographer wanting to shoot girls, I do ask them, however I do tell them what is involved. Their face on the net,, etc etc etc.. Most Escorts shy away from it unless they are certain and want to make a definite career out of the net. If you go to Adult Models for hire sites you see a lot of Escorts advertising for availibility in shoots. The legality is simple. You are NOT hiring her for Sex, but you are hiring her to star in one of your adult movies, which is perfectly legal. However, if you pay her, have sex with her off camera, that's prostitution. Period. As long as the camera rolls its legal pornography. So make sure the camera is on! Steffie __________________ Partying since '96 and not going anywhere Anna's Dorm