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Quoth the Raven 02-21-2003 09:49 PM

Is it ok to use the services of a prostitute for a photo shoot?
 
Can you get arrested for hiring a call girl just to shoot some photos even if prostitution is illegal.

jact 02-21-2003 09:51 PM

Good question... I dunno?

LiveDose 02-21-2003 09:53 PM

I think some agencies call it lingerie modeling. Just don't fuck her, that might be riskier seeing as her trade is selling booty.

bogo 02-21-2003 09:53 PM

do one legged ducks swim in circles? :glugglug

NastyJack 02-21-2003 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Quoth the Raven
Can you get arrested for hiring a call girl just to shoot some photos even if prostitution is illegal.
Of course you can.
What are you going to tell the cop?
You wanted to hire her for a photo shoot!

Doubt they would go for it.

Quoth the Raven 02-21-2003 09:59 PM

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Originally posted by NastyJack


Of course you can.
What are you going to tell the cop?
You wanted to hire her for a photo shoot!

Doubt they would go for it.

What about the release form you make her sign before the shoot. Doesn't that cover you?

BrutalMaster 02-22-2003 12:03 AM

Pics aren't sex. If you make it clear that you are hiring her as a model it would not stand up in court.

Pretend for a moment she's not a whore, she's an undercover cop...and you tell her you are a photographer, and you want to photograph her hand for a cold cream magazine layout...what on Earth could they arrest you for? Felony cold cream?

And if you phoned an escort agency, again...taking photos of adults is not illegal, even if they are naked.

How many models have been hookers or escorts of prostiutes at some point? It's like asking if it's illegal to hire a 'prostitute' as a waitress.

Brutal

psyko514 02-22-2003 12:40 AM

Prostitution isn't illegal in Quebec.

EscortBiz 02-22-2003 12:48 AM

arressted yes will you be found guilty depends where what when

eRock 02-22-2003 12:54 AM

The chances of you get busted for even nailin' a hooker is VERY slim. I wouldn't worry about it unless you're pickin' up oiff the street corner...than it could be an undercover, but an escort outta the book wouldn't be a problem at all.

And for Nasty Jack...you could always tell the cop that she's just company for the evening & you were takin' some pics. There's nothing illegal about that.

Get some balls people...

EscortBiz 02-22-2003 12:58 AM

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Originally posted by eRock
The chances of you get busted for even nailin' a hooker is VERY slim. I wouldn't worry about it unless you're pickin' up oiff the street corner...than it could be an undercover, but an escort outta the book wouldn't be a problem at all.

And for Nasty Jack...you could always tell the cop that she's just company for the evening & you were takin' some pics. There's nothing illegal about that.

Get some balls people...

exactly

eRock 02-22-2003 01:00 AM

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Originally posted by psyko514
Prostitution isn't illegal in Quebec.
Are the hookers good lookin' there? :Graucho

Paul Markham 02-22-2003 01:04 AM

Your only problem will be when she arrives.

They generally make very bad models, the good ones are not interested in your money, the bad ones are just bad.

Ovwer the years I have show a few good ones, but not enough to recommend them.

Just make sure she is being paid for the modelling not the sex. Even if the pictures are for your own personal use, dificult to get a conviction.

goBigtime 02-22-2003 01:11 AM

How do escort agencies feel about that though?

Ie. say you use escorts and make a reality site like MILF for instance.

How does this usually go over with the escort business owners/pimps/whatever?


Damn.. in the process of typing this I just thought of a *fantastic* reality site concept :thumbsup

Ironhorse 02-22-2003 04:25 AM

Usually the John stings are just to scare and embarass potential customers. In most cases these guys are married and they don't want theire wives finding out so they go to the special counselling class they offer. I doubt you can get convicted.

Quoth the Raven 02-22-2003 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by psyko514
Prostitution isn't illegal in Quebec.
Since our stay in Quebec, there were at least half a dozen escort agencies that were busted for prostitution.

psyko514 02-22-2003 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Quoth the Raven
Since our stay in Quebec, there were at least half a dozen escort agencies that were busted for prostitution.
The act of prostitution is not illegal. Paying for sex is legal, and being paid for sex is legal.

Soliciting is illegal.

The escort agencies that got busted were breaking other laws (abuse of the girls, underaged girls, solicitation, etc)

NoCarrier 02-22-2003 10:06 AM

Would the hooker accept being photographed in the first place? I don't think she will feel comfortable with this! haha.. Unless you show some big $$$

Why not use a professional model instead. At least you won't have to retouch the needle wounds in photoshop.

psyko514 02-22-2003 10:10 AM

Is prostitution legal in Montreal ?
http://elysa.uqam.ca/dsexo/english/0...0468-2905m.htm

What's the Situation in Montreal?
http://www.altmtl.ca/sextrade.htm

Quote:

The act of prostitution in Canada is not illegal. But communicating in public for the purpose of prostitution is illegal for customers and prostitutes, as is living off the avails of prostitution.

sweetdesigns 02-22-2003 10:31 AM

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Originally posted by NoCarrier
Would the hooker accept being photographed in the first place? I don't think she will feel comfortable with this! haha.. Unless you show some big $$$

Why not use a professional model instead. At least you won't have to retouch the needle wounds in photoshop.

:thumbsup
on the other hand even the pros have to be CORRECTED sometimes and I dont mean the needle wounds :winkwink:

Quoth the Raven 02-22-2003 11:04 AM

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Originally posted by NoCarrier
Why not use a professional model instead.
Because these French Canadian models have a reputation of showing up when they feel like it, and sometime they don't even show up at all. You can't run a business paying people by the hour and don't know if and when the model will come. At least with a call girl, she understands time is money and will show up on time. Plus they're less expensive;)

NoCarrier 02-22-2003 11:47 AM

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Originally posted by Quoth the Raven


Because these French Canadian models have a reputation of showing up when they feel like it, and sometime they don't even show up at all. You can't run a business paying people by the hour and don't know if and when the model will come. At least with a call girl, she understands time is money and will show up on time. Plus they're less expensive;)

If you were a callgirl, would you agree to let someone taking pictures of you even for cash? I don't think so. And what about the model id ? Do you think she's going to give you her personnal information?!

Well.. I am sure you will find some that might want to do it, but with the legality issues and the hassles, I don't see why this is going to be useful.

Gutterboy 02-22-2003 11:49 AM

Take a look at the law. To get arrested for soliciting (at least in the US) you have to actually offer money for sex. That is why when you see these undercover cop programs where the female officers play hooker to catch johns, they're always very careful to have the john specify the amount of money he's willing to pay for a specific sex act.

If the john doesn't take the bait and says he just wants to "party" or something, there really isn't shit they can do.

UnseenWorld 02-22-2003 12:14 PM

Here in Oregon (and local laws apply, so this may not work for you), as long as a camera is rolling and the model isn't performing sex for the enjoyment of anyone present, and as long as she has signed a release, it can't be prosecuted for solicitation or prostitution. Or at least that's my understanding. (I'm not an attorney, and you should consult a local attorney for an opinion...In case you hadn't noticed, we are webmasters not lawyers here.)

UnseenWorld 02-22-2003 12:16 PM

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Originally posted by Quoth the Raven


Because these French Canadian models have a reputation of showing up when they feel like it, and sometime they don't even show up at all. You can't run a business paying people by the hour and don't know if and when the model will come. At least with a call girl, she understands time is money and will show up on time. Plus they're less expensive;)

And you think a crack ho will be more reliable than a sober model? What planet are YOU living on? And then there's the whole pimp thing you'd have to deal with. Screw that!

Quoth the Raven 02-22-2003 02:51 PM

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Originally posted by UnseenWorld
And you think a crack ho will be more reliable than a sober model? ... And then there's the whole pimp thing you'd have to deal with. Screw that
Chances are the ho will be driven by the pimp's chauffeur to your hotel/studio. If you paid the girl the amount agreed, why would her pimp bother you?

Manny The Freak 02-22-2003 02:57 PM

No it ain't. I have shot a prostitute. I have even recruited a few for shoots.

Manny The Freak 02-22-2003 02:58 PM

If you do the necesary paper work adendim and she 2257 compliant it is not illegal.

NoCarrier 02-22-2003 03:13 PM

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Originally posted by Quoth the Raven


Chances are the ho will be driven by the pimp's chauffeur to your hotel/studio. If you paid the girl the amount agreed, why would her pimp bother you?

Why are you asking the question if you are trying to convince us it's ok!? Just do it..

What is the purpose of this thread exactly?!

Quoth the Raven 02-22-2003 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NoCarrier


Why are you asking the question if you are trying to convince us it's ok!? Just do it..

What is the purpose of this thread exactly?!

The purpose is to find out if it is legal to call an escort agency and have a call girl come over for a photo shoot. :)

steffie 02-22-2003 05:09 PM

Ah, my favourite topic lol

Using Callgirls as Models is very common. A lot of girls started as Adult Entertainers offline and than work their way into the modeling, amateur industry. A LOT of Amateurs are still in the "Adult offline Entertainement" business for more income.

I get about 1 or 2 calls per week from Adult Photographer wanting to shoot girls, I do ask them, however I do tell them what is involved. Their face on the net,, etc etc etc..

Most Escorts shy away from it unless they are certain and want to make a definite career out of the net.

If you go to Adult Models for hire sites you see a lot of Escorts advertising for availibility in shoots.

The legality is simple. You are NOT hiring her for Sex, but you are hiring her to star in one of your adult movies, which is perfectly legal.

However, if you pay her, have sex with her off camera, that's prostitution. Period. As long as the camera rolls its legal pornography. So make sure the camera is on!

Steffie

Toker 02-22-2003 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Quoth the Raven
Can you get arrested for hiring a call girl just to shoot some photos even if prostitution is illegal.
Try Dial a Hoe..................
Go to one of the titty bars and get someone to pose, cheaper and legal!

asuna 02-22-2003 05:29 PM

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Originally posted by Quoth the Raven


Since our stay in Quebec, there were at least half a dozen escort agencies that were busted for prostitution.

All because of manny!:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Quoth the Raven 02-22-2003 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Toker
Go to one of the titty bars and get someone to pose, cheaper and legal!
Strippers are the worse. They just take our phone number and never bother to call.:mad:


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