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Yngwie · 07-11-2012, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom

Therefore THEY are the reason you make money.

Yes, but without anyone to SELL the product you/her would make $0. You act like the "product" is the only important thing. Take all of the affiliates away and all you have is a product sitting on the shelf earning you nothing. So the affiliates make YOU $ from promoting the "product(s)" you offer. Now, how will you have affiliates selling your product so you can make $ when no one trusts you anymore or wants to deal with you?

A smart business person would do everything that they can to make potential resellers/affiliates happy. They would pay everything that was owed and make 100% sure that the affiliates can feel safe doing business with them again. In the end it would be a win/win, but you decided to not go that route, obviously.

iSpyCams · 07-11-2012, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom

You can't possibly think that is a real ID.....please tell me you're not that dense.
It IS posted under a warning about fake profiles and ID's being sent out by scammers.

Somebody faked an expired passport?

Ann-Angelcom · 07-11-2012, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by pompousjohn

False. TRAFFIC is the product. You are the customer, competing with a million other customers to buy it on credit. And your comments have severely damaged your credit rating.

You are making a business proposal to potential partners trying to convince them that you can bill customers 12 months a year for the pleasure of viewing Ann Angel's 35 year old body doing 2 updates in a 7 month period.

And this is after making it clear that you don't put any value on the partnership, if you do manage to bill on your partner's traffic you feel they would be displaying a misplaced sense of entitlement if they wanted their cut.

In the normal world, you would need to pay up front with such a flimsy proposal. But here in the adult business, there may be someone stupid enough to send you traffic.

It will not be me.

Pompus John.....I must have went to a different business school than you did....traffic is the PRODUCT? lol So foot traffic in Best Buy is the product? So traffic is the END of the equation? Funny not one of Anna's members signed up to her site for "traffic" lmao.. God you're dense.

Ann-Angelcom · 07-11-2012, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Yngwie

Yes, but without anyone to SELL the product you/her would make $0. You act like the "product" is the only important thing. Take all of the affiliates away and all you have is a product sitting on the shelf earning you nothing. So the affiliates make YOU $ from promoting the "product(s)" you offer. Now, how will you have affiliates selling your product so you can make $ when no one trusts you anymore or wants to deal with you?

A smart business person would do everything that they can to make potential resellers/affiliates happy. They would pay everything that was owed and make 100% sure that the affiliates can feel safe doing business with them again. In the end it would be a win/win, but you decided to not go that route, obviously.

What fucking thread are you reading??? We have paid and continue paying all affiliates since 2003. Nothing has changed! I was simply sticking up for a girl who was being attacked in a different program unassociated to mine.

Yngwie · 07-11-2012, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom

Pompus John.....I must have went to a different business school than you did....traffic is the PRODUCT? lol So foot traffic in Best Buy is the product? So traffic is the END of the equation? Funny not one of Anna's members signed up to her site for "traffic" lmao.. God you're dense.

Yes, but without the traffic you would have no members.

Ann-Angelcom · 07-11-2012, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by pompousjohn

Somebody faked an expired passport?

Don't hurt yourself man....it's fine. It's tough to understand why scammers do what they do...and it's even harder to read the message about it on Anna's website. But you stick to what you do best and don't worry your pretty little head with anything like facts or stuff like that.

Yngwie · 07-11-2012, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom

What fucking thread are you reading??? We have paid and continue paying all affiliates since 2003. Nothing has changed! I was simply sticking up for a girl who was being attacked in a different program unassociated to mine.

I apologize for that. Just reading all the posts in this thread made me think otherwise. In either case, the one you were defending should pay the people she owes and by you defending her it makes YOU look bad. In the end whether it's associated with you/your program or not will make no difference because everyone will look at you/your program in a negative way.

Ann-Angelcom · 07-11-2012, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Yngwie

Yes, but without the traffic you would have no members.

I built the MAJORITY of my own traffic thank you. So it would appear that the answer is NO affiliates are not the life blood of a site. Sorry if facts insult anyone. But fact is since 2003 affiliates have not been an intricate part of our business model. Anna's members love her and have stuck around since day one as well.....you know Anna..... the product.

Ann-Angelcom · 07-11-2012, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Yngwie

I apologize for that. Just reading all the posts in this thread made me think otherwise. In either case, the one you were defending should pay the people she owes and by you defending her it makes YOU look bad. In the end whether it's associated with you/your program or not will make no difference because everyone will look at you/your program in a negative way.

My problem came with only how other people approached that girl Melissa when she was TRYING to do the right thing. People fuck up and make mistakes and she was admitting to it and hoping to rectify it. That's what I was defending and stand by it. No reason for any of the jerkoffs in here to be rude to ANY model period.

spazlabz · 07-11-2012, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom

Don't hurt yourself man....it's fine. It's tough to understand why scammers do what they do...and it's even harder to read the message about it on Anna's website. But you stick to what you do best and don't worry your pretty little head with anything like facts or stuff like that.

Just stop already. I do not know what business school you went to, but if you went to one you have me beat. I only have 14 years of experience to fall back on. Pompous John is talking about the affiliate model where the traffic you want from an expansive network of partners sends you traffic. Their product is the traffic that you pay per sale on..... your product is the model and her product is her T&A.

You may make money all of your own with only 15% of your traffic/sales coming from affiliates but I doubt you have many 'whales' there. Get one of them and your entire view of the people that post here on GFY often would change and you would see the value of being respectful and listening to what the community here has to say. There are plenty of hard working people here that make a LOT of money promoting sites like yours. It is incredibly short sighted to alienate them due to hurt feelings

iSpyCams · 07-11-2012, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom

Pompus John.....I must have went to a different business school than you did....traffic is the PRODUCT? lol So foot traffic in Best Buy is the product? So traffic is the END of the equation? Funny not one of Anna's members signed up to her site for "traffic" lmao.. God you're dense.

This board is B2B, you are not gonna get any surfer signups here. The product here is traffic. We are advertisers, we deliver customers. If we took on Best Buy as a customer we wouldn't be selling them gadgets, we would be selling them customers.

Dumbass.

lazycash · 07-11-2012, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom

My problem came with only how other people approached that girl Melissa when she was TRYING to do the right thing. People fuck up and make mistakes and she was admitting to it and hoping to rectify it. That's what I was defending and stand by it. No reason for any of the jerkoffs in here to be rude to ANY model period.

We both know that wasn't Melissa who posted that thread. He/She was only trying to do "the right thing" all of a sudden because they had left dozens of affiliates with no paychecks and no explanation for months, and now decided he/she actually needed the affiliate traffic back. Your post brushed off all the money owed as if affiliates should just forget about it as the models are the ones who do all the hard work. Now that you've stated you are friends with Melissa and Biggy, its easy to see how you were blinded. It was more than them just shutting down their affiliate program, they hadn't made payouts long before the closure.

ottopottomouse · 07-11-2012, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom

My problem came with only how other people approached that girl Melissa when she was TRYING to do the right thing. People fuck up and make mistakes and she was admitting to it and hoping to rectify it. That's what I was defending and stand by it. No reason for any of the jerkoffs in here to be rude to ANY model period.

iSpyCams · 07-11-2012, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom

My problem came with only how other people approached that girl Melissa when she was TRYING to do the right thing. People fuck up and make mistakes and she was admitting to it and hoping to rectify it. That's what I was defending and stand by it. No reason for any of the jerkoffs in here to be rude to ANY model period.

She wasn't trying to do the right thing, she was trying to look like she was doing the right thing while doing the wrong thing.

Hers is a classic example of someone who thought they didn't need affiliates and I guess that's a good thing because she's not gonna have any.

iSpyCams · 07-11-2012, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

It was more than them just shutting down their affiliate program, they hadn't made payouts long before the closure.

And as I understand it continued to bill customers.

iSpyCams · 07-11-2012, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom

No reason for any of the jerkoffs in here to be rude to ANY model period.

Being rude to a model who's modeling for you yeah that's a dick move.

Being rude to a thief who's stealing from you? Not so much.

What a bout a jerkoff who's hiding behind a model's name hoping people will be nice to him?

Ann-Angelcom · 07-11-2012, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by pompousjohn

Being rude to a model who's modeling for you yeah that's a dick move.

Being rude to a thief who's stealing from you? Not so much.

What a bout a jerkoff who's hiding behind a model's name hoping people will be nice to him?

Ok regardless of what your opinions are of Melissa or whoever posted on that thread the point is, when someone tries to rectify something....why act like a dick to whoever they are? I have gotten screwed once or twice on site designs. I paid and they never did the work. Then months even years later the designers came back and asked if they could please rectify it by doing something else for me at no charge. I didn't act unprofessional towards them or like a screaming crying whinny baby. I was nice and understanding....and guess what? They fixed the problem! THAT my friends is the right way to go about things. Ever wonder why some people in that thread DID get paid while others didn't? lol

They shut the affiliate program off and last time I checked there are no rules written anywhere against that. I could be wrong. Nothing illegal was done here. And you may NOT agree with that and that's fine....but then it's your choice to sign up to promote a site that uses something like NATS or a site that uses CCbill affiliate payouts. Chalk it up as a lesson learned.

Ann-Angelcom · 07-11-2012, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pompousjohn

Being rude to a model who's modeling for you yeah that's a dick move.

Being rude to a thief who's stealing from you? Not so much.

What a bout a jerkoff who's hiding behind a model's name hoping people will be nice to him?

So your complaint about me is that Anna and I post on this account that we created in 2004 with the name of her WEBSITE? Ann-Angelcom? (used to say Ann-Angel.com but they asked us to remove the .) We aren't allowed to share an account because we fucking live together??? What are you saying?????

NaughtyRob · 07-11-2012, 02:02 PM

Pics or gtfo.

Ann-Angelcom · 07-11-2012, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

We both know that wasn't Melissa who posted that thread. He/She was only trying to do "the right thing" all of a sudden because they had left dozens of affiliates with no paychecks and no explanation for months, and now decided he/she actually needed the affiliate traffic back. Your post brushed off all the money owed as if affiliates should just forget about it as the models are the ones who do all the hard work. Now that you've stated you are friends with Melissa and Biggy, its easy to see how you were blinded. It was more than them just shutting down their affiliate program, they hadn't made payouts long before the closure.

I don't know the length of time or any details of what went on there. I only saw a bunch of grown as fucking men talking shit to a girl......EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID TO ANNA IN THIS THREAD! And yes I defended her! How come not one of you comes to Anna's defense when a piece of shit like Papilon and the other clown who is lucky he wasn't in front of me when he said what he said demean her as a woman??? Instead you're saying what they said is OK because I defended Melissa in another post 6 fucking months ago?

Anna tried to share some pics to anyone who might care a little that she is almost back to looking like her normal self after being gone for a while and these fucking losers take an emotional shit on her. And you don't defend her?? No one?? Shame on you all for letting jerkoffs like this even have a say on this forum. That's why this place is a shit hole now.

Ann-Angelcom · 07-11-2012, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by pompousjohn

This board is B2B, you are not gonna get any surfer signups here. The product here is traffic. We are advertisers, we deliver customers. If we took on Best Buy as a customer we wouldn't be selling them gadgets, we would be selling them customers.

Dumbass.

Did you see anyone in this thread ever asking you or anyone else for traffic? Did anyone even mention advertising? Huh dumbass?

AlCapone · 07-11-2012, 02:12 PM

Welcome back. Now, please leave.

atom · 07-11-2012, 02:24 PM

this thread - lol

topnotch, standup guy · 07-11-2012, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom

They shut the affiliate program off and last time I checked there are no rules written anywhere against that.

And they kept the money that was already due to their affiliates.

What does your rule book say about that?

Here's a free clue. If you feel inclined to make posts defending that sort of shit, then maybe - just maybe - you should figure on getting some serious blow back.
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iSpyCams · 07-11-2012, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom

Did you see anyone in this thread ever asking you or anyone else for traffic? Did anyone even mention advertising? Huh dumbass?

I am sorry but you are too dumb to argue with me. I cant be required explain both your position and mine. You'll have to continue destroying your business without me.

JOKER · 07-11-2012, 02:42 PM

NOW PAYING 75% OF ALL SALES!!!

Good to know

papill0n · 07-11-2012, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom

I don't know the length of time or any details of what went on there. I only saw a bunch of grown as fucking men talking shit to a girl......EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID TO ANNA IN THIS THREAD! And yes I defended her! How come not one of you comes to Anna's defense when a piece of shit like Papilon and the other clown who is lucky he wasn't in front of me when he said what he said demean her as a woman??? Instead you're saying what they said is OK because I defended Melissa in another post 6 fucking months ago?

Anna tried to share some pics to anyone who might care a little that she is almost back to looking like her normal self after being gone for a while and these fucking losers take an emotional shit on her. And you don't defend her?? No one?? Shame on you all for letting jerkoffs like this even have a say on this forum. That's why this place is a shit hole now.

you did it to yourselves you fucking pussy. i dont give a fuck what sex you are. if youre going to open your big fucking mouth and condone theft then you are going to get served

im laughing at the fact you think anyone is actually going to defend someone who said what she said about us not getting what was owed to us.

incredibly here you are saying the same thing. if a program wants to shut down and fuck all us webmasters then its fine with you ? yeah champ thats gonna get you endless new affiliates that is

papill0n · 07-11-2012, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pompousjohn

I am sorry but you are too dumb to argue with me. I cant be required explain both your position and mine. You'll have to continue destroying your business without me.

well said john. this guy is as dumb as his gf. he wont ever get it.

lazycash · 07-11-2012, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom

I don't know the length of time or any details of what went on there.

Which is exactly why you should have never commented in that thread. It wasn't even Melissa you were defending, it was her boyfriend or ex who was trying to milk affiliates for more traffic under the guise that they would eventually be paid. Sure he's paid a couple of the big amounts he's owed, but many affiliates are still unpaid. You can keep on defending Melissa's program and you'll continue ruining any credibility you still have remaining. Nobody was attacking Melissa in that thread, they were merely doubting the authenticity of the thread starter's promise based on his prior actions.

SiMpLe · 07-11-2012, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by atom

x1000 holy shit lolz

adultdomainseller · 07-11-2012, 02:58 PM

anna/anne/ann whatever her name is around 40 years of age now and should not be modeling at all

ottopottomouse · 07-11-2012, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom

Did you see anyone in this thread ever asking you or anyone else for traffic? Did anyone even mention advertising? Huh dumbass?

Too stupid to notice your own sign then?

TurboAngel · 07-11-2012, 03:31 PM

Can you repost the pics?

F U S I O N · 07-11-2012, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom

I built the MAJORITY of my own traffic thank you. So it would appear that the answer is NO affiliates are not the life blood of a site. Sorry if facts insult anyone. But fact is since 2003 affiliates have not been an intricate part of our business model. Anna's members love her and have stuck around since day one as well.....you know Anna..... the product.

Pulled your links a long time ago when you decided to block ips from certain areas without letting affiliates know this. Wasted time and traffic sent to your program

u-Bob · 07-11-2012, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom

Pompus John.....I must have went to a different business school than you did....traffic is the PRODUCT? lol So foot traffic in Best Buy is the product? So traffic is the END of the equation? Funny not one of Anna's members signed up to her site for "traffic" lmao.. God you're dense.

Looks like you don't fully understand what this business is about. The program owner sells a membership to the surfer, but the affiliate essentially sells traffic to the program owner.

BaldBishop · 07-11-2012, 05:16 PM

I'm not promoting Digitalangeldollars.com, but if I was, I would pull all my links in a heartbeat after reading this thread.

papill0n · 07-11-2012, 05:18 PM

still think its not you dickhead ?

Mr Pheer · 07-11-2012, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by lucas131

yeah for 35 years old lady

Neither of those photos are within state department guidelines for use on a passport.

Zoxxa · 07-11-2012, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom

So you're assuming Anna was never here based on.........?
Right....so you're saying the product doesn't make you money. That's amazing logic. Try selling something in Best Buy without an actual product LMAO.

Similar to BestBuy, your wife is simply another fake imitation product produced by 1,000 others in shitty factories putting on their best suit begging to be put on the shelfs.

You need us, we absolutely do not fucking need you.

This thread is one of the most retard filled threads I have read in ten years on gfy. Thank you very much.

Zoxxa · 07-11-2012, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by pompousjohn

I am sorry but you are too dumb to argue with me. I cant be required explain both your position and mine. You'll have to continue destroying your business without me.

nico-t · 07-12-2012, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom

Ummm can someone please remove him from my thread? He is extremely rude.

PornDiscounts-R · 07-12-2012, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by spazlabz

Just stop already. I do not know what business school you went to, but if you went to one you have me beat. I only have 14 years of experience to fall back on. Pompous John is talking about the affiliate model where the traffic you want from an expansive network of partners sends you traffic. Their product is the traffic that you pay per sale on..... your product is the model and her product is her T&A.

You may make money all of your own with only 15% of your traffic/sales coming from affiliates but I doubt you have many 'whales' there. Get one of them and your entire view of the people that post here on GFY often would change and you would see the value of being respectful and listening to what the community here has to say. There are plenty of hard working people here that make a LOT of money promoting sites like yours. It is incredibly short sighted to alienate them due to hurt feelings

Anna... Read the above post, go get a drink and think about it. Hopefully it will make sense to you

lazycash · 10-19-2012, 10:28 AM

Gfy never forgets.

CDSmith · 10-19-2012, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom

I don't know the length of time or any details of what went on there. I only saw a bunch of grown as fucking men talking shit to a girl......EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID TO ANNA IN THIS THREAD! And yes I defended her! How come not one of you comes to Anna's defense when a piece of shit like Papilon and the other clown who is lucky he wasn't in front of me when he said what he said demean her as a woman??? Instead you're saying what they said is OK because I defended Melissa in another post 6 fucking months ago?

Anna tried to share some pics to anyone who might care a little that she is almost back to looking like her normal self after being gone for a while and these fucking losers take an emotional shit on her. And you don't defend her?? No one?? Shame on you all for letting jerkoffs like this even have a say on this forum. That's why this place is a shit hole now.

No offense friend but if Ann was smart she would relegate you back to doing whatever else you do for her and hire herself an affiliate manager who knows their way around these boards and how to handle and deflect the troll onslaught in a more positive way. Because frankly, and again don't take this personally, you suck at it. You're far to reactive and hypersensitive for this forum to be representing a program.

Next time she's looking to "launch" have her hit me up. I can help. :D

scottybuzz · 10-19-2012, 11:29 AM

hahaa what a thread.

good work papillion

ann, you really are a dumb ass fuck tard.

go back to rubbing yourself

shake · 10-19-2012, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by papill0n

oh yeah i almost forgot

welcome back

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