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Old 01-25-2012, 12:59 PM   #1
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Forget SOPA/PIPA - Do you know about ACTA?

Ireland and EU to sign controversial ACTA treaty tomorrow

IRELAND IS TO sign a controversial international agreement tomorrow which promises a major international crackdown on the trade of counterfeit goods ? and illegal internet filesharing.

Irish representatives will sign the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA) at a ceremony tomorrow ? as will representatives from each of the other 26 European Union member states, and the EU itself.

http://www.thejournal.ie/ireland-and...36764-Jan2012/

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Old 01-25-2012, 01:01 PM   #2
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Good. Keep em coming. Put all thieves behind bars.
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Old 01-25-2012, 01:05 PM   #3
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Good, bring em' all on!
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Old 01-25-2012, 01:34 PM   #4
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http://trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/doc...doc_147937.pdf

Apparently, this has been going on for years ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Co...rade_Agreement
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Old 01-25-2012, 02:43 PM   #5
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Good. Keep em coming. Put all thieves behind bars.
However the same industry rightsholder groups that support the creation of ACTA have also called for mandatory network-level filtering by Internet Service Providers and for Internet Service Providers to terminate citizens' Internet connection on repeat allegation of copyright infringement (the "Three Strikes" /Graduated Response) so there is reason to believe that ACTA will seek to increase intermediary liability and require these things of Internet Service Providers. While mandating copyright filtering by ISPs will not be technologically effective because it can be defeated by use of encryption efforts to introduce network level filtering will likely involve deep packet inspection of citizens' Internet communications. This raises considerable concerns for citizens' civil liberties and privacy rights and the future of Internet innovation.

https://www.eff.org/issues/acta

So, with no proof they cut off your internet, they make the ISPs do deep packet inspection so you have no privacy and you think this is good?

Man oh man.

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Old 01-25-2012, 02:45 PM   #6
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So, with no proof they cut off your internet, they make the ISPs do deep packet inspection so you have no privacy and you think this is good?
Good luck, i'm behind 7 proxies.
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Old 01-25-2012, 03:02 PM   #7
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However the same industry rightsholder groups that support the creation of ACTA have also called for mandatory network-level filtering by Internet Service Providers and for Internet Service Providers to terminate citizens' Internet connection on repeat allegation of copyright infringement (the "Three Strikes" /Graduated Response) so there is reason to believe that ACTA will seek to increase intermediary liability and require these things of Internet Service Providers. While mandating copyright filtering by ISPs will not be technologically effective because it can be defeated by use of encryption efforts to introduce network level filtering will likely involve deep packet inspection of citizens' Internet communications. This raises considerable concerns for citizens' civil liberties and privacy rights and the future of Internet innovation.

https://www.eff.org/issues/acta

So, with no proof they cut off your internet, they make the ISPs do deep packet inspection so you have no privacy and you think this is good?

Man oh man.

/me shakes head and walks off

Who gives a fuck!

If this theft shit isn't stopped none of us will have an internet connection anyway
since we can't pay the bill.

None of these bills/laws would have ever come about if you had spent as much time
preaching to people to stop stealing content. Your preaching is a little too late and
directed at the wrong people.

Go preach to megaassholeload in prison.
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LOL at anyone who thinks bills like this will help pornographers in ANY way.
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Who gives a fuck!

If this theft shit isn't stopped none of us will have an internet connection anyway
since we can't pay the bill.
Speak for yourself buddy! My wife will pay the internet bill if I ended up failing at this! (she's a hardcore gamer, COD xboxlive type shit)
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Old 01-25-2012, 04:16 PM   #10
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Who gives a fuck!
Anyone that values their privacy.

ACTA makes the ISPs look at every packet of data you send and receive. You think that's a good idea?

Who is going to pay for it? The ISPs? I don't think so.

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If this theft shit isn't stopped none of us will have an internet connection anyway
since we can't pay the bill.
It won't be stopped.

And if it was, it wouldn't change sales. We are giving away all the porn you could possibly want for free. Legally.

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None of these bills/laws would have ever come about if you had spent as much time
preaching to people to stop stealing content. Your preaching is a little too late and
directed at the wrong people.
People won't stop. Those are not the people that buy porn.

To take away someone's internet connection on an accusation is very wrong. IP spoofing, open wifi, grandkids coming over and stealing something on your connection etc.

You need to think this stuff through from a technical point of view and the implementation.

It's been proven to not work. I believe you have a fundamental right to use the internet and not be monitored whilst doing so.

It amuses me people that sell things that the public would be embarrassed to be caught viewing (legally) are in favour of making their customers love of german piss porn public knowledge. You don't think that would make people think twice about actually viewing legal porn?

/me shakes his head again
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LOL at anyone who thinks bills like this will help pornographers in ANY way.
LOL @ people who think everybody only does porn.

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Anyone that values their privacy.

ACTA makes the ISPs look at every packet of data you send and receive. You think that's a good idea?

Who is going to pay for it? The ISPs? I don't think so.



It won't be stopped.

And if it was, it wouldn't change sales. We are giving away all the porn you could possibly want for free. Legally.



People won't stop. Those are not the people that buy porn.

To take away someone's internet connection on an accusation is very wrong. IP spoofing, open wifi, grandkids coming over and stealing something on your connection etc.

You need to think this stuff through from a technical point of view and the implementation.

It's been proven to not work. I believe you have a fundamental right to use the internet and not be monitored whilst doing so.

It amuses me people that sell things that the public would be embarrassed to be caught viewing (legally) are in favour of making their customers love of german piss porn public knowledge. You don't think that would make people think twice about actually viewing legal porn?

/me shakes his head again

Megaupload is finished, that means something to everybody that had content stolen.

Who gives a shit if it can't be stopped, just lock up the people who we can.

Make a motherfucker feel your pain whether it improves the bottom line or not.

Shooting one enemy solider will not win the war but I'm in favor of shooting him
anyway.
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All the pirates out there should 1) have seen this coming, and 2) take on the spirit of a true pirate and enjoy their stash of treasure.
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Megaupload is finished, that means something to everybody that had content stolen.

Who gives a shit if it can't be stopped, just lock up the people who we can.

Make a motherfucker feel your pain whether it improves the bottom line or not.

Shooting one enemy solider will not win the war but I'm in favor of shooting him
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Speak for yourself buddy! My wife will pay the internet bill if I ended up failing at this! (she's a hardcore gamer, COD xboxlive type shit)
Note to self :

Find ugly lonely chick who is hooked on xboxlive.

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