If you could have any illegal drug, made legal...

[CurrentlySober]

ASIDE FROM CANNABIS...

What drug would it be?

[Mutt]

morphine

[Cystomatic]

LSD probably, even though I'm not into drugs, except alcohol :P

[fuzebox]

Would be awesome to buy coke at the store that isn't cut with bullshit.

[V_RocKs]

Rohypnol.

[Robbie]

Definitely cocaine. No reason for that to be illegal anyway. Caffeine isn't. But cocaine is?

REAL cocaine (like the kind I did uncut down in Peru) is pretty damn good. I felt like a million bucks on it. Lots of energy.

But here in the U.S. it's so cut with speed that it's pretty much just like doing shitty speed. You feel jittery, your cock shrinks, and you can't sleep or eat.

If it were legal and had the FDA making sure it was pure...then we would have the same thing that people who drank Coca Cola in the beginning had.

Then instead of drinking a cup or coffee, or a 5 hour energy drink...you could just drink a Coca Cola.

I'm pretty much just stunned that in the year 2011 we still have decided that certain PLANTS that grow naturally are illegal to harvest and make substances that mankind has used for centuries.

Laughed my ass off at the newest Sherlock Holmes movie when Holmes told Watson he was living on a diet of Coca leaves for the last few weeks and hadn't slept. lol

[datingleads]

ecstasy ftw

[marlboroack]

N,N-Dimethyltryptamine...
and crack

[geedub]

Originally Posted by marlboroack

N,N-Dimethyltryptamine...

amen!

[HardlinkSells]

Cocaine use to be fun

[$5 submissions]

Is there a drug that produces

love
joy
gentleness
goodness
patience
self-control
faithfulness
kindness
meekness

Make THAT drug legal, dude

[AllAboutCams]

most of these drugs are legal know just in different forms.

[Overload]

magic mushrooms ... given by nature - what could be wrong with it?

[barcodes]

[uno]

Any of the PEAs or Trypts.

[BFT3K]

Codeine.

[SmokeyTheBear]

probably all opiates.. i don't even do them they make me sleepy, but it seems a problem that shouldn't be as bad as it is..

[Spunky]

Speedballs

[CYF]

Originally Posted by Overload

magic mushrooms ... given by nature - what could be wrong with it?

I'd pick shrooms too

[bpluva]

Originally Posted by BFT3K

Codeine.

I got a script with 5 refills you can have them they suck..whats your ICQ

[epitome]

Ketamine

[Mr Pheer]

Cyanide.

[loreen]

Originally Posted by Overload

given by nature - what could be wrong with it?

There are a lot of deadly / poisonous plants: http://www.ansci.cornell.edu/plants/

[OldJeff]

All of them, tax the shit out of them like they do alcohol and tobacco. Eliminate income taxes of all kinds. Millions would just lie in the gutter fucked out of their minds and would thankfully forget to breed and eventually die off making the specias stronger. Pure Darwinism in action.

[CurrentlySober]

Originally Posted by OldJeff

All of them, tax the shit out of them like they do alcohol and tobacco. Eliminate income taxes of all kinds. Millions would just lie in the gutter fucked out of their minds and would thankfully forget to breed and eventually die off making the specias stronger. Pure Darwinism in action.

AMEN...

Best reply (IMHO) in this thread so far...

[loreen]

Originally Posted by OldJeff

Millions would just lie in the gutter fucked out of their minds and would thankfully forget to breed and eventually die off making the specias stronger. Pure Darwinism in action.

And I think lots will get their guns and give a "party at the mall"...

[CaptainHowdy]

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by OldJeff

All of them, tax the shit out of them like they do alcohol and tobacco. Eliminate income taxes of all kinds. Millions would just lie in the gutter fucked out of their minds and would thankfully forget to breed and eventually die off making the specias stronger. Pure Darwinism in action.

Millions? lol

People already do any drug they want to.
It's really not much different than Prohibition was with alcohol. It created a giant criminal enterprise and people still do it anyway.

And all the bums here in Vegas (and they are EVERYWHERE here) aren't doing illegal drugs. They are pretty much all alcoholics. So Darwinism already happened.

Taking "ghetto drugs" out of this conversation for a second...pot and coke are EXPENSIVE. Bums lying in the gutter "fucked out of their minds" can't afford to do good pot or really good coke that hasn't been stepped on to death.

More importantly...when you just sit back and think about it...how did the govt. ever get the power to tell an individual that they can't smoke something? Or ingest something? Or even grow something on their own property?

Kinda crazy isn't it? Especially since Washington and Jefferson both GREW pot! lol And many of the founding fathers wrote about the pleasures of smoking it.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by fuzebox

Would be awesome to buy coke at the store that isn't cut with bullshit.

[BFT3K]

[Operator]

Originally Posted by oldjeff

all of them, tax the shit out of them like they do alcohol and tobacco. Eliminate income taxes of all kinds. Millions would just lie in the gutter fucked out of their minds and would thankfully forget to breed and eventually die off making the specias stronger. Pure darwinism in action.

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[BFT3K]

Speaking of codeine...

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_1...ts/?tag=exclsv

[Bill8]

Originally Posted by uno

Any of the PEAs or Trypts.

The tryptamines first.

Then the phenylethylamines.

But definitely the tryptamines first.

[pornmasta]

lsd ?

8char

[ArsewithClass]

Originally Posted by fuzebox

Would be awesome to buy coke at the store that isn't cut with bullshit.

Agreed, but if you go to the right dealer, you don't buy crap coke.....


I think if any drug was made legal, it would be a huge mistake as we would end up being off our face too much, like dropping to the shops for a beer

[Dead]

The plants that grew here before any law was in place to make one feel what he was doing is wrong or illegal. And in that, it becomes a personal choice, not something we abide by because that is the way we are told to do

[Dead]

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

Agreed, but if you go to the right dealer, you don't buy crap coke.....


I think if any drug was made legal, it would be a huge mistake as we would end up being off our face too much, like dropping to the shops for a beer

That outlook is safe for you! Would not want you to have options or other ways of self medicating, that would be stupid...yea, better keep it up to big pharma, they have your best interest in mind

[porno jew]

meth and heroin.

[uno]

Originally Posted by Bill8

The tryptamines first.

Then the phenylethylamines.

But definitely the tryptamines first.

Why out of curiousity? LSD? Shrooms?

I'd really give them about equal footing because I'd also love mescaline, 2cb, 2ct4, 2ct7, etc etc etc about the same. Mescaline is really the only thing as profound as LSD in the PEA category imo, but I'm sure there are some I haven't tried.

[Dead]

Originally Posted by porno jew

meth and heroin.

Meth? as in methamphetamine in the true chemical form or the shit one would find in a shaker? Just curios, as that seems a very broad vote for a highly publicized unknown! Heroin Is good to go, as long as it is processed properly and the ones who indulge are able to handle the commitment of their decisions.

[Bill8]

Originally Posted by uno

Why out of curiousity? LSD? Shrooms?

I'd really give them about equal footing because I'd also love mescaline, 2cb, 2ct4, 2ct7, etc etc etc about the same. Mescaline is really the only thing as profound as LSD in the PEA category imo, but I'm sure there are some I haven't tried.

Because the phenylethylamines are a litle more likely to be abused as pleasure chemicals, giving the religious phobics who outlawed them in the first place more ammunition to use in the media wars that will certainly follow any legalization.

The tryptamines are more challenging, and while they cause intense pleasure they are inherently less likely to be used as pleasure chemicals because of their tolerance profile and because of the psychological challenges they present to the user.

But, ultimately because I'd rather have lsd and dmt personally, and I think the social effects of legalizing the study of consciousness that inevitably follows those molecules would benefit society the most.

I do love mescaline and mdma/mda, and agree that the PEAs should be legalized (under a licensing model I would say, both chemical classes should first be available under a licensing system, just to ease the transition.), and that they also could do astounding good for society.

[uno]

Originally Posted by Bill8

Because the phenylethylamines are a litle more likely to be abused as pleasure chemicals, giving the religious phobics who outlawed them in the first place more ammunition to use in the media wars that will certainly follow any legalization.

The tryptamines are more challenging, and while they cause intense pleasure they are inherently less likely to be used as pleasure chemicals because of their tolerance profile and because of the psychological challenges they present to the user.

But, ultimately because I'd rather have lsd and dmt personally, and I think the social effects of legalizing the study of consciousness that inevitably follows those molecules would benefit society the most.

I do love mescaline and mdma/mda, and agree that the PEAs should be legalized (under a licensing model I would say, both chemical classes should first be available under a licensing system, just to ease the transition.), and that they also could do astounding good for society.

PEAs tolerances are pretty close to trypts, not to even mention the cross tolerance between the two. I don't see an abuse potential any higher on 2cb than shrooms, for ex. or LSD vs mescaline. I am kind of against DMT and 5meo dmt for general use, but absolutely, a licensing system would be great. I simply don't think most people could handle a DMT/5 meo dmt or even lsd experience when I've seen people fall apart with something as mild as 2cb or 2ci.

I have no idea how such a licensing system would work, but tripping definitely is not for everyone.

[uno]

Originally Posted by Dead

Meth? as in methamphetamine in the true chemical form or the shit one would find in a shaker? Just curios, as that seems a very broad vote for a highly publicized unknown! Heroin Is good to go, as long as it is processed properly and the ones who indulge are able to handle the commitment of their decisions.

The catch22 with heroin and other opiates is that people can be 100% functioning addicts, but the costs associated with the habit and the w/d's push people to highly undesirable behavior. If there were proper pricing and safety issues accounted for... otoh.

Perhaps I'm a chemical bigot, but I highly despise almost any kind of amphetamine or speed type substance.

[uno]

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

As far as I'm aware Bufo toads are legal almost everywhere. Just remember, you don't lick the toad... You milk it and do NOT hurt it in the process.

Unfortunately, that flies in the face of one of my favorite Simpson's lines ever, "I'm not not licking toads."

[Matt 26z]

Do you think big pharma would allow street drugs to be legalized? Many street drugs have a lab alternative that you can get from your doctor. They can't have your local gas station competing with that.

[porno jew]

crack, pcp and steroids.

[uno]

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

Do you think big pharma would allow street drugs to be legalized? Many street drugs have a lab alternative that you can get from your doctor. They can't have your local gas station competing with that.

I'm pretty positive it would be the vast majority of the constituents and their representative that would be against it. Drugs are considered, almost universally, bad.

Heroin started off as a brand name. It's not like some dude on a street corner dubbed it heroin and it spread.

[uno]

I think a big issue is also OTC vs prescription. Complete deregulation isn't necessarily a good thing.

[ArsewithClass]

Originally Posted by Dead

That outlook is safe for you! Would not want you to have options or other ways of self medicating, that would be stupid...yea, better keep it up to big pharma, they have your best interest in mind

I wasn't thinking of me, I was thinking of the others that can't help themselves


I can but a few grms of charlie & still have a few lines for another day if I want... it's called strong will power, something a lot of people haven't got

[Lykos]

I would ban them all!