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Old 11-24-2011, 03:22 PM   #51
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Leaving aside you had piss running down your leg at the mere sight of another person coming in your direction, why would you carry a special knife "in case of a stray dog"? WTF. Get help.
No one in their right mind would use a knife against "a stray dog". They would use mace, pepper spray, a walking stick or a gun.
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I rather have 10 muslims walking in my street than 1 idiot with a gun and knife.
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I rather have 10 muslims walking in my street than 1 idiot with a gun and knife.
Walking on your street, not in.
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No one in their right mind would use a knife against "a stray dog". They would use mace, pepper spray, a walking stick or a gun.
It’s a 2 1/2 inch pocket knife enough to separate two fighting dogs if I couldn’t do it myself and I don’t make it a habit of carrying a firearm when I’m walking my dog.

I also see some of you already have me as the big bad villain here while the truth is I don’t think I did anything so terrible under the conditions.

Perhaps you should take into consideration the entire episode before you paint me as some gun wielding woman terrorizer.

For openers this was not an attack against American Muslim woman only the outfits a few of them wear, I clearly said I had now idea who or what was under the gown when I first saw it.

I knew I would be leaving early today and the dog and I wouldn’t get our morning jog in so I decided to go last night; it was midnight or close to it. I’ve never been in that area late at night but I do know there are stray dogs there and we also had a few muggings so I decided to take my firearm with me, something I rarely do, it was well concealed and not intimidating in any way.

When I saw this thing I was concerned and I think for good reason, this is a desolate are especially at that time of night, it was pitch black save for few lights here and there and the closer it got the more I could see that the face as well as the entire body was covered
in black so I step a few feet off the path shortened the hold on my dog waiting for her to pass. There was no way that she could possibly have seen the gun at that time nor am I sure she ever saw it, I didn’t have it pointed at her and it wasn’t some big shiny metal gun it was close to my far side from her direction pointed at the ground. For whatever reason when she approached me within 5 or 10 feet she suddenly darted off the path, the only way I was able to determine it was a woman was by the sound she made but I really cant be sure what caused her to dart like that, I doubt it was my dog he’s 24 lbs and was on a leash, I assumed it was the gun but maybe it was me or the way I was acting or maybe she was some crack whore looking to rip me off.

Bottom line is if she wasn’t dressed in that garb this whole situation would never have happened and I still maintain people dressed in a disguise to that extent in public be it religious outfits or costumes should be illegal. I also know that I speak for the majority of American Muslim woman when it comes to veils and many other ways woman are forced to live in most Muslim countries.

With that said I hope we can put this thread to rest.

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Old 11-24-2011, 04:15 PM   #55
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hopefully the people in your neighborgood read this advice.

If you come face-to-face with someone threatening you with a gun, knife, or other weapon, there are steps that you can take to make the situation less dangerous.
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Meanwhile, on an "Women For The Right To Wear A Veil" message board somewhere:

"So there I was, walking quickly through 'Mugger's Lake' one night, unarmed and defenseless in the dark, and suddenly see this huge roided out motherfucker with a dog, armed to the teeth, gun at the ready, lurking in the shadows like a fucking maniac. Fortunately I escaped with my life. What is America coming to?"
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It?s a 2 1/2 inch pocket knife enough to separate two fighting dogs if I couldn?t do it myself and I don?t make it a habit of carrying a firearm when I?m walking my dog.

I also see some of you already have me as the big bad villain here while the truth is I don?t think I did anything so terrible under the conditions.

Perhaps you should take into consideration the entire episode before you paint me as some gun wielding woman terrorizer.

For openers this was not an attack against American Muslim woman only the outfits a few of them wear, I clearly said I had now idea who or what was under the gown when I first saw it.

I knew I would be leaving early today and the dog and I wouldn?t get our morning jog in so I decided to go last night; it was midnight or close to it. I?ve never been in that area late at night but I do know there are stray dogs there and we also had a few muggings so I decided to take my firearm with me, something I rarely do, it was well concealed and not intimidating in any way.

When I saw this thing I was concerned and I think for good reason, this is a desolate are especially at that time of night, it was pitch black save for few lights here and there and the closer it got the more I could see that the face as well as the entire body was covered
in black so I step a few feet off the path shortened the hold on my dog waiting for her to pass. There was no way that she could possibly have seen the gun at that time nor am I sure she ever saw it, I didn?t have it pointed at her and it wasn?t some big shiny metal gun it was close to my far side from her direction pointed at the ground. For whatever reason when she approached me within 5 or 10 feet she suddenly darted off the path, the only way I was able to determine it was a woman was by the sound she made but I really cant be sure what caused her to dart like that, I doubt it was my dog he?s 24 lbs and was on a leash, I assumed it was the gun but maybe it was me or the way I was acting or maybe she was some crack whore looking to rip me off.

Bottom line is if she wasn?t dressed in that garb this whole situation would never have happened and I still maintain people dressed in a disguise to that extent in public be it religious outfits or costumes should be illegal. I also know that I speak for the majority of American Muslim woman when it comes to veils and many other ways woman are forced to live in most Muslim countries.

With that said I hope we can put this thread to rest.
Turn yourself into the police for brandishing a weapon against an unarmed Muslim woman, sell your firearms, return your license to carry, try to earn your man card back by not living in a frightened, paranoid, pathetic state-of-mind.
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You should have raped her for walking alone without a male escort. If she complained after you could have just said you were trying to understand her faith and make her feel more at home!
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OP you're a fucking retard.

Only more so thinking you're going to separate dogs with a 2 inch pocket knife.

Please kill yourself and save the next poor innocent who startles you while you're packing.
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So you should be allowed to carry firearms, but she shouldn't be allowed to wear the clothes she chooses? You almost shot someone based on what they were wearing? What country do you live in again?
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A 2 inch knife is good in a prison shower or to cut bananas, not to stop wildlife. How many bites from a rabid animal will you get before it bleeds out from that knife?

I think you need to take classes if you plan to carry and do some real life simulations. Have you ever shot a mving target at that I distance in the dark? Did you have a weapons light or tacticle light on your person? Lasers don't count as you can not discrminate what your target it.
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...and I carry...often. I have never drawn in more than 25 years. I caught a poacher on my propery and held him until the police took him away and never showed my weapon or let him know I had one. It's in the attitude and situational awareness ...not fear.
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Meanwhile, on an "Women For The Right To Wear A Veil" message board somewhere:

"So there I was, walking quickly through 'Mugger's Lake' one night, unarmed and defenseless in the dark, and suddenly see this huge roided out motherfucker with a dog, armed to the teeth, gun at the ready, lurking in the shadows like a fucking maniac. Fortunately I escaped with my life. What is America coming to?"
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"So there I was, walking quickly through 'Mugger's Lake' one night, unarmed and defenseless in the dark, and suddenly see this huge roided out motherfucker with a dog, armed to the teeth, gun at the ready, lurking in the shadows like a fucking maniac. Fortunately I escaped with my life. What is America coming to?"
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So I'm out walking my dog around a lake we have in the area, its kind of desolate and dark although there are light posts a few hundred feet apart so when I walk there I carry a pocket knife on my left in case of a stray dog and a firearm on my right covered of course with a long workout shirt. All of sudden I notice this figure in a full black gown with a hood about 300 feet away walking toward me. At first I thought it was a Halloween costume or someone playing a joke but the closer it got the more leery I became to the point that I stepped off the walk path onto the grass area drew and chambered my firearm. (Keep in mind I had now idea who or what was under this gown so what fuckin good is a holstered S & W if this person is up to no good) I guess the person who turned out be a Muslim woman spotted the gun because just before she reached me she made a sharp right across the grass screaming like a lunatic. I continued my walk even stood a few minutes extra figuring the cops would be coming and I was curious what they would do but they didn?t come.

My point is do we really have to live under these conditions? When I was growing up only robbers thief?s and the Lone Ranger wore masks. Furthermore I don?t even know if what I did is considered legal (I have a carry permit) or if I would have faced charges or a law suit for scarring this so called person.

I also feel it should be against the law to walk in public with your face covered; It?s a recipe for crime; this is the USA not Iran, Syria Pakistan or any other Muslim country. You want to live under Muslim tradition go live in a Muslim country.
That's nothing. Imagine a Sharia court where some bearded guy arbitrarily decides your fate.
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dummy..he wasn't scared because it was a muslim woman but a dark figure all in black wearing a 'mask'. i will never get used to seeing these people either. they remind me of the grim reaper or ninja's and oppression.
Muslim women wearing veils walking down the sidewalk = reality

Grim reapers and ninjas walking down the sidewalk= fantasy

Now ask yourself again, if you see a person wearing a veil walking down the sidewalk, what would be a rational reaction? That the grim reaper or a ninja is about to attack you? Or that a peaceful Muslim women is just walking down the street minding her own business?

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You should have raped her for walking alone without a male escort. If she complained after you could have just said you were trying to understand her faith and make her feel more at home!

I totally agree. We need to show respect for their faith.
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Muslim women wearing veils walking down the sidewalk = reality

Grim reapers and ninjas walking down the sidewalk= fantasy

Now ask yourself again, if you see a person wearing a veil walking down the sidewalk, what would be a rational reaction? That the grim reaper or a ninja is about to attack you? Or that a peaceful Muslim women is just walking down the street minding her own business?
Grim reaper for sure. But I get your point.
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another fine example of how gun ownership makes a safer place to live
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Meanwhile, on an "Women For The Right To Wear A Veil" message board somewhere:

"So there I was, walking quickly through 'Mugger's Lake' one night, unarmed and defenseless in the dark, and suddenly see this huge roided out motherfucker with a dog, armed to the teeth, gun at the ready, lurking in the shadows like a fucking maniac. Fortunately I escaped with my life. What is America coming to?"
Holy fuck that was funny!!! Lol.
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Too bad her so called "religion" does not allow the same freedom to you or any other non-muslim person. This "veil" is just veil only as long as muslims are minority. When they're majority, they'll impose Sharia rule and those "veils" will become mandatory for all women. No freedom there whatsoever. Muslim means "obedient", there is no freedom in Islam.

Islam is the cancer that should not be allowed to spread into the civilized world. It is a primitive and violent desert cult that only seeks to dominate and destroy all freedoms you take for granted, such as the freedom of speech and religion. If you think Islam is just another religion, just another way to worship God no better no worse than any other, just read their warbook called Quran. Real eye opener.
Yeah because a doped up uneducated loser like you has obviously read the Quran.

Guys like you and the OP are the fucking cancer.

The woman is walking down the street doing nothing and this fucking idiot is such an insecure little fucking pussy he needs to draw a fucking gun ??? LOL @ you pathetic little bitches.

You know absolutely nothing about Islam other than what your government feeds you.

I lived in the biggest muslim nation on the planet for 5+ years. I felt 100% safe the entire time. Not one act of agreesion,violence . Nothing. Never experienced one person with a problem with me because I wasnt mulsim. Not fucking one. No overtly repre4ssed women at all. Desert culture ? 200 million muslims and not a single desert in site and not a chance you have to wear the veil if you dont want to. Now read that again pussy. No deserts and no veils. Next time you open your little cunthole of a mouth try to expell something that isnt an utter joke

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you nailed it!

you are a Moron!

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At the very least she'd get an honor killing for something like this.
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You feel the same way about other religions, i bet you don't!

Add Eastern European Gypsy women to that list.

This shows the real problem. Many religions treat women as second class people or possessions. To be covered up or owned.
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Yeah because a doped up uneducated loser like you has obviously read the Quran.

Guys like you and the OP are the fucking cancer.

The woman is walking down the street doing nothing and this fucking idiot is such an insecure little fucking pussy he needs to draw a fucking gun ??? LOL @ you pathetic little bitches.

You know absolutely nothing about Islam other than what your government feeds you.

I lived in the biggest muslim nation on the planet for 5+ years. I felt 100% safe the entire time. Not one act of agreesion,violence . Nothing. Never experienced one person with a problem with me because I wasnt mulsim. Not fucking one. No overtly repre4ssed women at all. Desert culture ? 200 million muslims and not a single desert in site and not a chance you have to wear the veil if you dont want to. Now read that again pussy. No deserts and no veils. Next time you open your little cunthole of a mouth try to expell something that isnt an utter joke
Why don't you name the country? We all know certain middle eastern countries require women to wear the veil, require women to have male escorts at all times and do not allow women to drive, among other things.
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Muslim women wearing veils walking down the sidewalk = reality

Grim reapers and ninjas walking down the sidewalk= fantasy

Now ask yourself again, if you see a person wearing a veil walking down the sidewalk, what would be a rational reaction? That the grim reaper or a ninja is about to attack you? Or that a peaceful Muslim women is just walking down the street minding her own business?
Growing up I never saw any muslim people. I guess back then Canada was full of ...Canadians. Of course the grim reaper and ninjas are 'fantasty' but that doesn't change the association of being dressed all in black and hiding your face. its not that i think they are ninja's..obviously. i have to laugh a little when i see them dressed like that driving an escalade, talking into a bluetooth and enjoying all the advances of the 21st centry while hold still practicing archaic religious ideals.
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Walking on your street, not in.
Yes, i made a mistake. It happens. It most likely will happen again in the future.
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Why don't you name the country? We all know certain middle eastern countries require women to wear the veil, require women to have male escorts at all times and do not allow women to drive, among other things.
He's talking about Indonesia. While they have the largest Muslim population in a single country, it's only about 13% of the total World's Muslim population. Indonesia has a blended source of law. The legal systems are strongly influenced by Sharia, but ultimate authority lies within their constitution and the rule of law. He'd be singing a much different tune in a country ruled soley by Sharia law.
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Old 11-25-2011, 06:29 AM   #84
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Yes, i made a mistake. It happens. It most likely will happen again in the future.
I wasn't trying to mock you or anything. I know English is your second language and I was just correcting you to help, believe it or not.
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Old 11-25-2011, 07:08 AM   #85
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No one on earth will be able to change my mind about the fact that it's fucking DUMB, ridiculous, retarded (NAME IT) to wear this kind of costume anytime and even when it's plus 30 degrees !

How can someone endorse this ? First amendment bullshit or whatever you say is beyond any logical thing.

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Old 11-25-2011, 07:12 AM   #86
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packing a knife and a gun for a walk with the dog, jesus christ... unbelievable
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I wasn't trying to mock you or anything. I know English is your second language and I was just correcting you to help, believe it or not.
Indeed hard to believe. But in that case, thanks
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No one on earth will be able to change my mind about the fact that it's fucking DUMB, ridiculous, retarded (NAME IT) to wear this kind of costume anytime and even when it's plus 30 degrees !

How can someone endorse this ? First amendment bullshit or whatever you say is beyond any logical thing.
I think it's retarded too. Still no reason to shoot them though.
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This shows the real problem. Many religions treat women as second class people or possessions. To be covered up or owned.
Despite the legislation is Muslim countries, wearing a Hijab or Burka is OPTIONAL in the Qu'ran.

My wife doesn't wear one.
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He's talking about Indonesia. While they have the largest Muslim population in a single country, it's only about 13% of the total World's Muslim population. Indonesia has a blended source of law. The legal systems are strongly influenced by Sharia, but ultimate authority lies within their constitution and the rule of law. He'd be singing a much different tune in a country ruled soley by Sharia law.
Maybe i need to show him some pictures of the non violent muslims there lynching christians...for not being muslim.
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Despite the legislation is Muslim countries, wearing a Hijab or Burka is OPTIONAL in the Qu'ran.

My wife doesn't wear one.
Yeah, tell that to Ali who beats the crap out of his wife if she refuses to wear a tablecloth.
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Yeah, tell that to Ali who beats the crap out of his wife if she refuses to wear a tablecloth.
Then Ali isn't a proper Muslim.
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Then Ali isn't a proper Muslim.
The site you are working on "barfined" ... "red light social network" ...

You do realize fined and find are pronounced the same but mean entirely different things. Fined makes no sense in the context you are using it. Find is the word you should be using.

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Then Ali isn't a proper Muslim.
Right...same old story. In the meantime muslims worldwide beat their wife because they think that is an islam thing to do. They consider you not a proper muslim for not doing it.

Religion and especially islam is wrong. It makes people do fucked up things.
And simply saying he or she is not a proper muslim won't change that fact.
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The site you are working on "barfined" ... "red light social network" ...

You do realize fined and find are pronounced the same but mean entirely different things. Fined makes no sense in the context you are using it. Find is the word you should be using.

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I think you're wrong.
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I think you're wrong.
Fined = to be penalized a sum of money

Find = discover something

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Fined = to be penalized a sum of money

Find = discover something

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Yes, exactly.
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Yes, exactly.
So barfined would mean bars that were fined.

And barfind would mean finding bars. A bar guide.

A social network based off of finding bars is one thing. A social network finding bars that were fined is very different. I think something is being lost in translation and would hate to see a site developed based on the wrong term.

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Sounds like you're the one people need to watch out for, if you're walking your dogs with a loaded gun.

Anyway, next time you should drop down into a textbook six-five-niner position, and lay down some smoke grenades and a few rounds of suppressing fire(possibly a few 7290 flash bangs) , so all of your neighbors can escape from the terrifying muslim woman. After the smoke clears and you've slapped in another magazine, cordon off the perimeter and mark the area with flares, so the SWAT team can set up their positions to cover your six. If they don't have a Barrett 50 cal sniper rifle, make sure you set up some claymores to hold her off until they can get one on the scene, and set up on a nearby rooftop. I'm not a fan of the 50(it's just overkill), but it should penetrate the burka without a problem.
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Meanwhile, on an "Women For The Right To Wear A Veil" message board somewhere:

"So there I was, walking quickly through 'Mugger's Lake' one night, unarmed and defenseless in the dark, and suddenly see this huge roided out motherfucker with a dog, armed to the teeth, gun at the ready, lurking in the shadows like a fucking maniac. Fortunately I escaped with my life. What is America coming to?"


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I'm not a fan of the 50(it's just overkill), but it should penetrate the burka without a problem.
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