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Harmon · 10-09-2011, 01:19 AM

50 senile European geriatric gingivitis victims.

Paul Markham · 10-09-2011, 07:13 AM

[QUOTE=bm bradley;18478460]

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Originally Posted by DamianJ

a model you paid TO TAKE PICTURES OF. She isn't your whore Paul. She is a professional model. QUOTE]

how do you know what he paid her to do? how do you know she isn't his whore? how many shoots have you done? what do you know about professional models?

Damian is about the most stupid person ever when it comes to anything porn related.

Lola was a professional model paid to shoot that sample clip. She was paid for Eva to shoot it while her and I fooled around in front of the camera. After that I shot a set of her on a Sybian horse, then a video. She hated the thing, the video was fine. Using a vibrator was fine, just the Sybian she hated. Still she got on with it and turned out a good job. She was brand new to nude modeling, nervous as hell, yet professional enough to do a good job. The video clip with me I have to be honest, I don't remember much about it, one of those thing you do and forget because it wasn't important.

And Damian is so disgusted by the idea of a porn model and porn shooter having sex together. He will be leaving the industry Monday. As he would never want to stay in such a disgusting industry where people fuck each other. Which kind of narrows down his employment opportunities.

Or it's just me and he's as stupid as they come. Or maybe it's a touch of jealousy that I used to get laid.

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Originally Posted by bm bradley

depends what glass you're using and it's a really BIG world, pretty sure you're not the be all, end all authority on how to run a shoot

A non porn shooter never touched or fucked a model. In Cloud Cuckoo Land.

In the real world it happens all the time, that's why David Bailey boasts to fucking so many.

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Originally Posted by bm bradley

had a model want to do a DP with me and the male talent after a shoot once... not my thing, had models ask me to fuck them during the shoot, rather complete the shoot and make the money... it's always about the money to me on some level

Yes the stories you and I could share are probably endless. I've had girls and couples turn up for castings with no intention of ever doing any work, just fucking a porn shooter. Dated one of these girls until I met Eva, then broke it off with her. She was from NZ and wanted to come over and say good bye. Her, Eva and me had a 3some. Her idea, she wanted to try it.

Damian is a closet prude who hates the idea of people having casual sex, of Eva having sex with me and a girl. This will likely upset him.

As for money. You and I risk too much on a shoot to "Fuck it up."

After wards we might.

DamianJ · 10-09-2011, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Lola was a professional model paid to shoot that sample clip. She was paid for Eva to shoot it while her and I fooled around in front of the camera.

Third different version of your story in one thread. That's good going even for you man!

Nice one, king of trolls!

Paul Markham · 10-09-2011, 07:22 AM

Remember the Twitter page where Damian was telling everyone I hung out near schools looking for kids, his comments about me buying a puppy to get close to kids, well does this look familiarly similar?

http://onedreefuckslittleboys.blogsp...ttle-boys.html

Got his style written all over it.

So Damian, moved your hate to someone else. Is it going to be coming back to me anytime soon?

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Originally Posted by DamianJ

Third different version of your story in one thread. That's good going even for you man!

Nice one, king of trolls!

Where did I say she wasn't a paid model booked for the day?

Paul Markham · 10-09-2011, 07:36 AM

Seems it's not the first time he's made the same accusation.

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18477626&postcount=9

The ban hammer needs to be got out of the cupboard. Linking to posts about someone on the board being a pedophile. It's his style.

MaDalton · 10-09-2011, 07:37 AM

a line is crossed when photographers threaten not pay unless the model has sex with them or don't accept when a model says no to them. i got told frightening stories and even when i believe only 20% of them, there are some scary people out there. And it's always the same people the stories are about.

but what happens after a shoot between two adult people is not my business. i don't personally shoot (anymore) so i am not tempted anyways

Grapesoda · 10-09-2011, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

As for money. You and I risk too much on a shoot to "Fuck it up."

what most guys can't figure out is that shooting sex is very much like gambling, I throw my money down, roll the dice and hope to make a profit.... just because the models show up doesn't mean you will get the shoot in the can. just because they strip and rub uglies doesn't mean you'll get the shoot in the can either...

shooting sex is VERY probelmatic... guys that are internet marketers calling themselves porn guys or that go to conventions and try a cop a feel off some nude crackhead have no fucking idea of what's really going on...

and those are the very same dumb fucks always crying about the models and their feeings and the other BS they carry on with... love to have one of these dipshits spend a weekend with a few models. it would eat their fucking lunch

Grapesoda · 10-09-2011, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

a line is crossed when photographers threaten not pay unless the model has sex with them or don't accept when a model says no to them. i got told frightening stories and even when i believe only 20% of them, there are some scary people out there. And it's always the same people the stories are about.

but what happens after a shoot between two adult people is not my business. i don't personally shoot (anymore) so i am not tempted anyways

very true Ma... BUT no worse than the stories I hear about the banking or ins biz from women... or any office setting.... the porn biz is MUCH cleaner as a whole... usually the guys wayout in left field don't stay because they are fucking the clients as well

Jel · 10-09-2011, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley

very true Ma... BUT no worse than the stories I hear about the banking or ins biz from women... or any office setting.... the porn biz is MUCH cleaner as a whole... usually the guys wayout in left field don't stay because they are fucking the clients as well

point is, it's cunty to just cop a feel when you feel like it in any of those settings. Because the model is paid talent, or to put it bluntly, a whore, doesn't mean it should be acceptable. I'm all for the joys of sex between consenting adults, the chasing, the plain downright asking, but to just start pawing someone? lol, that's how dumb animals behave. Actually, I guess I have my answer right there.

Grapesoda · 10-09-2011, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Jel

point is, it's cunty to just cop a feel when you feel like it in any of those settings. Because the model is paid talent, or to put it bluntly, a whore, doesn't mean it should be acceptable. I'm all for the joys of sex between consenting adults, the chasing, the plain downright asking, but to just start pawing someone? lol, that's how dumb animals behave. Actually, I guess I have my answer right there.

and you saw this where?

Paul Markham · 10-09-2011, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley

what most guys can't figure out is that shooting sex is very much like gambling, I throw my money down, roll the dice and hope to make a profit.... just because the models show up doesn't mean you will get the shoot in the can. just because they strip and rub uglies doesn't mean you'll get the shoot in the can either...

shooting sex is VERY probelmatic... guys that are internet marketers calling themselves porn guys or that go to conventions and try a cop a feel off some nude crackhead have no fucking idea of what's really going on...

and those are the very same dumb fucks always crying about the models and their feeings and the other BS they carry on with... love to have one of these dipshits spend a weekend with a few models. it would eat their fucking lunch

99% of our shoots were on the basis we might sell them and get paid in 3-9 months time. OK odds were as good as we were, not just us a lot of mag shooters, we were backing a firm favorite.

Studio 3,500 sq ft, office 500 sq ft, staff, equipment, finding the girl and the girls money ran into a lot of money, per set. It was scary and why we could never waste our time shooting custom. Not sniping but when our cost per set was over $300 we couldn't think of shooting for anyone paying $500 a solo set so that market was out.

Now with all that riding on the eventual sale of a set. Anyone who thinks ANYONE OF OUR STAFF, including Eva and I. Would do anything to upset a model is stupidity. Look at those doing the accusing.

People sitting at home as affiliates or something like it. Their costs are Electricity, Internet connection and a computer. Their total outlay wouldn't fund us to shoot for a month.

This is why morons like Damian and Jel and a few more trolls can actually think we were "copping a feel". Yes you're morons. Anyone with two working brain cells would realise the costs of shooting porn and what's needed to cover those costs, then produce a profit.

As you sit in your spare bedroom or in Damian's case his living room, tapping away on your keyboard for $000.00 costs. You can dream we can do the things you would love the chance to. Well Damian or Jel, if you want to cop a feel, look in the local Yellow pages or Damian go here for one. And if I wanted to cop a feel, this is where I would go.

Grapesoda · 10-09-2011, 09:39 AM

the stuff I produce is pre-sold but that doens't mean the shoot will proceed as planed by any means. it's very tricky shooting sex

CaptainHowdy · 10-09-2011, 09:42 AM

pornmasta · 10-09-2011, 09:53 AM

Who is felix

?

EukerVoorn · 10-09-2011, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

a line is crossed when photographers threaten not pay unless the model has sex with them or don't accept when a model says no to them. i got told frightening stories and even when i believe only 20% of them, there are some scary people out there. And it's always the same people the stories are about.

And it affects all of us because many models who had this happening to them leave the industry as fast as they joined it. There's a lot of beautiful models you see in porn flicks but you see them in only one movie, because it's the first and last movie they did.

EukerVoorn · 10-09-2011, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by pornmasta

Who is felix

?

Wow there's another retard...

Who's Felix?

The guy posts a photo in which you see him having his hand on the butt of some girl and he writes "I have my hand on Felix's butt".

Now who do you think Felix is?

lol

pornmasta · 10-09-2011, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by EukerVoorn

Now who do you think Felix is?

lol

Yes, who is Felix ?

garce · 10-09-2011, 02:02 PM

Paul always starts the best threads. Fucking lovely.

JFK · 10-09-2011, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Deej

Whos the poor mother fucker with the miniscule penis...

he had stage fright and couldn't get it up

Brad Mitchell · 10-09-2011, 02:36 PM

This thread is creepy. I guess I went to three different conferences in Europe and must have been going to different webmaster shows all year. There has always been and always will be good and bad at any event, regardless of industry. I don't know who you've been spending time with, but the hundreds of professionals I spent time with were respectful to everyone in their presence. It is only second hand stories like this which characterize "everyone" or anyone as skanky pervs trying to get laid.

Brad

Robbie · 10-09-2011, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

the hundreds of professionals I spent time with were respectful to everyone in their presence. It is only second hand stories like this which characterize "everyone" or anyone as skanky pervs trying to get laid.

Brad

Then how do you explain your hand on my ass February in L.A.?

Looking forward to seeing you in Vegas in Jan.

ArsewithClass · 10-09-2011, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ

They way you acted was unprofessional at best and illegal at worst. You are disgusting.

If you weren't just joking about getting a job where you will be in charge of children I will do everything in my power to make sure you get removed from that position.

The way*

You are disgusting to accuse or consider Paul would be anything but responsible around children!

I've had to do everything in my power possible to have a wordpress site of yours removed when suggesting that my partner Natalie was fucking guys in the public toilets in a chidrens restaurant such as mc donalds...writing for anyone to meet her there! Meanwhile you could have set it up that dirty guys turned up & waited around for a fuck with Natalie with children eating their meals! You fucking sick twisted cunt!

Brad Mitchell · 10-09-2011, 03:01 PM

Ignore me. I'm not paying enough attention to be posting tonight.

Brad

ArsewithClass · 10-09-2011, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

This thread is creepy. I guess I went to three different conferences in Europe and must have been going to different webmaster shows all year. There has always been and always will be good and bad at any event, regardless of industry. I don't know who you've been spending time with, but the hundreds of professionals I spent time with were respectful to everyone in their presence. It is only second hand stories like this which characterize "everyone" or anyone as skanky pervs trying to get laid.

Brad

At the end of the day, we all live in this world together & obviously there are lots of people that want to be in this business for many reasons. Some just to get the kick, others for the status of saying they are in porn. I feel that as a producer, there is no need at anytime for touching between producer & the staff unless said producer is involved, i.e pov scenes....

I'm in the business to make a good living, a business for my partner and I, making a prosperous business for models to earn a decent income & give affiliates sites with content, able to make a decent earning from them also.. It's important to get the content right, but no need to touch the models.

EpicPanda · 10-09-2011, 04:08 PM

Where is the link to this video of the groping that Paul is defending in this thread? I can't keep up with all the Paul Drama Marka-llama.

Brad Mitchell · 10-09-2011, 04:39 PM

Hey Paul, did they send you your award yet? They're Purty.

Brad

Paul Markham · 10-10-2011, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley

the stuff I produce is pre-sold but that doens't mean the shoot will proceed as planed by any means. it's very tricky shooting sex

I hear so many shooters tell me they can fix a bad model in the edit it makes me wonder what they do to fix it and what they call fix.

Putting work in front of an editor happened like this.

Most shooters would walk in with a bag or even suitcase of sets, I had a suitcase. I would sort out the sets I had shot for a particular editor before I went into the office or building, then put them next to his light box.

He would take a set out of it's folder, then the look at the top sheet of slides on the light box to check exposures and with his eye piece look at the ID in the top left hand corner and go across the page diagonally looking at a slide closer. He/she would look at 4-5 slides on a page, then pull out a second page, not the second one, and look at 3-4 more, then the last page.

Then put it to his side or hand it back to you. Sometimes a shooter could hand it back to him or her and say "take and other look, she's spot on for you.".

That was it, if he liked it it went into his in tray, if he didn't it went back into my case.

And then I went to my next editor in the company, then the next day or afternoon to another company.

If you had good work you flew home with an empty suitcase and the checks kept flowing. If the sets you left in his "In tray" went into the magazine. If not they came back to you by post.

If a shooter could reach my crappy level, he could make money big time. If not he lost money. Big time.

So if the girl wasn't right on the day, she went home. Especially when we were shooting film. We put $100s into shooting a set to make $1,000 back.

There was no chance to "fix" a bad set. It never got shown to clients, it was binned. It wasn't worth harming the shooters rep. I see tons of single shots from all shooters that are great. I then look into the sites they work for and see total crap.

Yes even the great Dean Capture. He repeats shots over and over again. He gets poses wrong, he misses out poses, he shoots far to many portrait framed shots. I'm not flaming him or having a go at him. I'm telling what I see from shooter after shooter. Single shots great, sets not. To shoot $3,000 sets you need to be a set photographer. A troll once said I was trolling the best shooter online. I was scratching my head to think who he meant, because I would never troll Michael Ancher, Viv Thomas or a few of the others at the top. I know my place when it comes to my betters.

DamianJ · 10-10-2011, 12:47 AM

I have a good laugh with Ancher about you at the shows. He's been a friend of mine for 6 years now.

shade001 · 10-10-2011, 01:03 AM

I can't believe this kind of drivel gets you an award.

Paul Markham · 10-10-2011, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

Hey Paul, did they send you your award yet? They're Purty.

Brad

No it was given to me at the Prague show. Waiting for JFK to send the pictures to me.

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Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,812	This thread is creepy. I guess I went to three different conferences in Europe and must have been going to different webmaster shows all year. There has always been and always will be good and bad at any event, regardless of industry. I don't know who you've been spending time with, but the hundreds of professionals I spent time with were respectful to everyone in their presence. It is only second hand stories like this which characterize "everyone" or anyone as skanky pervs trying to get laid. Brad __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

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