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Old 10-10-2011, 12:44 AM  
Paul Markham
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Originally Posted by bm bradley View Post
the stuff I produce is pre-sold but that doens't mean the shoot will proceed as planed by any means. it's very tricky shooting sex
I hear so many shooters tell me they can fix a bad model in the edit it makes me wonder what they do to fix it and what they call fix.

Putting work in front of an editor happened like this.

Most shooters would walk in with a bag or even suitcase of sets, I had a suitcase. I would sort out the sets I had shot for a particular editor before I went into the office or building, then put them next to his light box.

He would take a set out of it's folder, then the look at the top sheet of slides on the light box to check exposures and with his eye piece look at the ID in the top left hand corner and go across the page diagonally looking at a slide closer. He/she would look at 4-5 slides on a page, then pull out a second page, not the second one, and look at 3-4 more, then the last page.

Then put it to his side or hand it back to you. Sometimes a shooter could hand it back to him or her and say "take and other look, she's spot on for you.".

That was it, if he liked it it went into his in tray, if he didn't it went back into my case.

And then I went to my next editor in the company, then the next day or afternoon to another company.

If you had good work you flew home with an empty suitcase and the checks kept flowing. If the sets you left in his "In tray" went into the magazine. If not they came back to you by post.

If a shooter could reach my crappy level, he could make money big time. If not he lost money. Big time.

So if the girl wasn't right on the day, she went home. Especially when we were shooting film. We put $100s into shooting a set to make $1,000 back.

There was no chance to "fix" a bad set. It never got shown to clients, it was binned. It wasn't worth harming the shooters rep. I see tons of single shots from all shooters that are great. I then look into the sites they work for and see total crap.

Yes even the great Dean Capture. He repeats shots over and over again. He gets poses wrong, he misses out poses, he shoots far to many portrait framed shots. I'm not flaming him or having a go at him. I'm telling what I see from shooter after shooter. Single shots great, sets not. To shoot $3,000 sets you need to be a set photographer. A troll once said I was trolling the best shooter online. I was scratching my head to think who he meant, because I would never troll Michael Ancher, Viv Thomas or a few of the others at the top. I know my place when it comes to my betters.
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