why nobody has real amateur content?!? - GoFuckYourself.com

cabmille · 08-25-2011, 02:57 AM

there are thousand "real" amateur websites with ex gf or POV content but if you wanna buy this kind of stuff it seems impossible...!
what the hell is wrong with this?!?

buildingfutures · 08-25-2011, 03:01 AM

Not true man. There's a couple of guys around who sell proper amateur/ex-gf stuff. Wait around a bit and they'll show up here.

cabmille · 08-25-2011, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by buildingfutures

Not true man. There's a couple of guys around who sell proper amateur/ex-gf stuff. Wait around a bit and they'll show up here.

i'm waiting, thanks!

MaDalton · 08-25-2011, 03:18 AM

we do have a few packages at http://www.amazingcontent.com/index2...te=bulk_offers - but it's not "real" in the sense of user submitted. but it has all docs for 2257 - opposed to content people "find" on the internet

seeandsee · 08-25-2011, 03:27 AM

you ask too much, who will have license for that

V_RocKs · 08-25-2011, 03:35 AM

It is hard to find a girl that was amateur a year ago that is able to go back to being amateur on video...

cabmille · 08-25-2011, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

It is hard to find a girl that was amateur a year ago that is able to go back to being amateur on video...

would be nice shooting videos that looks like real amateur, i think it's not so hard!

CurrentlySober · 08-25-2011, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by cabmille

would be nice shooting videos that looks like real amateur, i think it's not so hard!

So go fucking do it dipshit, and quit whining like a baby on GFY...

vdbucks · 08-25-2011, 03:50 AM

All sites at http://vdbucks.com are 100% pure amateur. If you have Asian traffic at all, hit me up.

CamTraffic · 08-25-2011, 04:04 AM

Naught Rob has some good amateur content

Bladewire · 08-25-2011, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by cabmille

there are thousand "real" amateur websites with ex gf or POV content but if you wanna buy this kind of stuff it seems impossible...!
what the hell is wrong with this?!?

What's wrong with this is that you see an opportunity to make money, and instead of taking that opportunity, you post asking "why nobody has this" , "what the hell is wrong with this" , and " i think it's not so hard!"

pornguy · 08-25-2011, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

So go fucking do it dipshit, and quit whining like a baby on GFY...

Easy Tiger..

did you miss your daily infusion of Poo???? Never seen you that aggressive.

charlie g · 08-25-2011, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by cabmille

there are thousand "real" amateur websites with ex gf or POV content but if you wanna buy this kind of stuff it seems impossible...!
what the hell is wrong with this?!?

What's your contact info?

The Duck · 08-25-2011, 04:41 AM

Check the stuff in my sig.

Captain Kawaii · 08-25-2011, 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabmille

there are thousand "real" amateur websites with ex gf or POV content but if you wanna buy this kind of stuff it seems impossible...!
what the hell is wrong with this?!?

What are you looking for? Hit me up...I shoot across all ethnic amateur niches...

Bladewire · 08-25-2011, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

Easy Tiger..

did you miss your daily infusion of Poo???? Never seen you that aggressive.

You used tiger and poo in the same post !

arock10 · 08-25-2011, 05:28 AM

There are plenty of amateur girls, just not a lot shot amateur style

onedree · 08-25-2011, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by cabmille

there are thousand "real" amateur websites with ex gf or POV content but if you wanna buy this kind of stuff it seems impossible...!
what the hell is wrong with this?!?

I have been a member here since 2005 ... I would be amazed to see one content provider offering real honest to goodness girl next door amateur content as such.

Jo-Leigh · 08-25-2011, 06:15 AM

Quote:

You used tiger and poo in the same post !

That tiger face is priceless!

acctman · 08-25-2011, 06:52 AM

its because content provider think like owners and not users. They want to use all there fancy equipment when all that is need is a few everyday models and give them an iphone or canon powershot. sit back and tell the to snap a few pictures if themselves of send them home and tell them to pose in front of there web cam.

any web user with half a brain can tell the difference between real and fake amateur pics.

MaDalton · 08-25-2011, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by acctman

its because content provider think like owners and not users. They want to use all there fancy equipment when all that is need is a few everyday models and give them an iphone or canon powershot. sit back and tell the to snap a few pictures if themselves of send them home and tell them to pose in front of there web cam.

any web user with half a brain can tell the difference between real and fake amateur pics.

you are right in many cases, we also had to learn that less equipment and less skills make more authentic content.

we have now someone "shoot" exGf content for us who has never worked as photographer before and we gave him just amateur equipment

but the problem is also the pricing. for some reason the prices for this type of content were extremely low right from the beginning. so paying couples for hardcore amateur content is for us simply too risky. it seems to work only for those who also run their own sites and make real money with this

Si · 08-25-2011, 07:52 AM

I only have 1 set available at the moment, see below

It is real self shot stuff she done at home.

Phoenix · 08-25-2011, 07:55 AM

we have a ton of amateur content
multiple series of it in fact.

AaronM · 08-25-2011, 09:09 AM

I have the following domains available for any content providers who shoot this sort of stuff.

REALAMATEURCONTENT.COM
REALITYVIDEOPRODUCTIONS.COM
REALWEBCAMCONTENT.COM

Barry-xlovecam · 08-25-2011, 09:18 AM

Model releases and ID documents ...

NaughtyRob · 08-25-2011, 10:14 AM

Look in the sell and buy section.

cabmille · 08-25-2011, 10:28 AM

thanks to everybody!! (exept CurrentlySober)

cabmille · 08-25-2011, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by charlie g

What's your contact info?

[email protected]
contact me if you have something...
thanks!

cabmille · 08-25-2011, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Squirtit

What's wrong with this is that you see an opportunity to make money, and instead of taking that opportunity, you post asking "why nobody has this" , "what the hell is wrong with this" , and " i think it's not so hard!"

i would like making money with this, but i have no knowledge about how to be a producer because i'm new in this matter!

CurrentlySober · 08-25-2011, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

Easy Tiger..

did you miss your daily infusion of Poo???? Never seen you that aggressive.

I'll tell you why I am 'agressive' (And you are right - I rarely ever am...) I used to want a certain type of content, about 10 years ago... No one had it... So what did I do? Come to GFY and complain, then say it was 'Easy'?

No... I invested money, bought equipment, booked models, booked locations, shot it myself, bought hosting - Set up billing, built the site myself... etc etc etc....

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Originally Posted by Squirtit

You used tiger and poo in the same post !

Thexy!

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Originally Posted by cabmille

thanks to everybody!! (exept CurrentlySober)

Get FUCKED you lazy asshole! If what you want is SO EASY... Go Shoot it yourself! After all... Its EASY!

CurrentlySober · 08-25-2011, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by cabmille

i would like making money with this, but i have no knowledge about how to be a producer because i'm new in this matter!

Amateur = BEING NEW!!!

Thats my point. Get a cheap ass camera, and go and shoot some girls... Fuck it up? Be amateur... Its what you want! ANd its NOT rocket science either...

CurrentlySober · 08-25-2011, 11:22 AM

Apologies if I appear to be a cunt, but I am just giving you a healthy dose of reality in 2011...

just a punk · 08-25-2011, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by cabmille

there are thousand "real" amateur websites with ex gf or POV content but if you wanna buy this kind of stuff it seems impossible...!
what the hell is wrong with this?!?

A lot of affiliate programs provide real (non-stage) amateur content. Course they don't have 2257 on it. Some have been already caught using underage content. Do you wanna deal with it? "Good luck" then!

CurrentlySober · 08-25-2011, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx

A lot of affiliate programs provide real (non-stage) amateur content. Course they don't have 2257 on it. Some have been already caught using underage content. Do you wanna deal with it? "Good luck" then!

Yup... Which in part, is why I am strongly suggesting he shoots his own..

garce · 08-25-2011, 02:41 PM

The best "real" amateur porn is available on Youtube - you just need to subscribe to the right people.

Download video.
Upload to your site.
???
Profit.

While not exactly porn, here's a sample:

Far-L · 08-25-2011, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by onedree

I have been a member here since 2005 ... I would be amazed to see one content provider offering real honest to goodness girl next door amateur content as such.

We have it. But we don't sell it outright. We lease feeds*.

But we certainly know the difference between the real and the fake. Homegrown Video was literally the first company to sell REAL amateur porn. Not the stuff shot to look amateur. REAL amateur as in homemade by people that are not going to become big name porn stars or stars seen on every site, aren't going to have their own sites, and doing it for the fun as much as for the cash.
It looks different. It feels different. It is different.

Some will say "oh, but you don't have picture sets to go with every video" Well... real amateurs don't shoot pics and matching video.

Some will say, "that stuff is shot on a tripod". Well, real amateurs don't necessarily have a professional videographer to record the action.

Some will say "but she isn't that hot a model or the lighting sucks etc." Well real amateurs aren't girls that spent an hour or two getting hair and makeup done by a professional and they don't have Kino soft light boxes etc.

To all those folks we say... Good luck then because real amateur is something that is unique and surfers know the difference too which is why Homegrown is so enduring.

/rant

(*In the midst of a transition from our previous vendor, we are working with SEXentertain now but it will be a few more weeks before they have everything up so I would recommend waiting if you are interested)

cabmille · 08-25-2011, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx

A lot of affiliate programs provide real (non-stage) amateur content. Course they don't have 2257 on it. Some have been already caught using underage content. Do you wanna deal with it? "Good luck" then!

sure not! that's why i'm here trying buying content!!

cabmille · 08-25-2011, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

Apologies if I appear to be a cunt, but I am just giving you a healthy dose of reality in 2011...

ehi easy, i'm here just since 2 weeks not 9 years! i think it's not useful being so mad.

arock10 · 08-25-2011, 03:48 PM

there is some teen, 20yr old stuff - but I cant find anything but skinny white bitches when it comes to gf content. Someone needs to start fucking old women

Mutt · 08-25-2011, 04:01 PM

because all of the people in the ex-gf niche would rather steal their content of 16 year old girls from chan sites and each other. they throw guys like Robert a bone and buy his stuff to make themselves feel like they're half legit.

LeRoy · 08-25-2011, 04:32 PM

Why dont you shoot it yourself?

Easy peasy

shimmy2 · 08-25-2011, 05:40 PM

if your looking to film amateurs don't forget your paper aphrodisiac.

GARY LEE · 08-25-2011, 11:47 PM

Like they have said before me, shoot it yourself. As I look through the girls for the month of August I've shot:
cashier from Jack in the box
ice cream and cashier girl from foster freeze
cashier from am/pm
carnie from our county fair
drunk girl from a bar called down town brew
girl who loads shelves at Wal-Mart
pizza delivery girl from Chubby Chandlers
bartender from the graduate
and about a half dozen girls who are friends with girls we have shot previously.
I'm sure many of you shoot much more content than I do because you own bigger companies but you won't find my girls on your sites.

Jim_Gunn · 08-26-2011, 12:25 AM

Producers don't bother producing much realistic looking amateur style content because it generally doesn't pay much. If it paid more I would be more inclined to bother getting a few young looking teen girls, put them in a house and let them shoot each other with a pocket still and video cam getting naked and playing around. I did something like this on a dorm room set for one client and it came out pretty good, especially considering how picky the guy is. But he was willing to meet my quote.

Pretty much figured out how to make that kind of content look authentic on the second try. First thing to do is dump the model's purse all over the bed & floor and make a mess of the room where we are shooting and put a bunch of posters on the wall to make it look authentic. Then let the talent shoot themselves.

As it is, the smallish amount of business I have done on the amateur level was mostly licensing non-exclusive softcore Ex-GF photos shot with a point and shoot camera and no lighting. And the only reason that was even worth it was because the content cost me almost nothing to shoot and gave me a reason to kick out of town models a few extra bucks for traveling and have a way to get my money back.

To shoot g/g or b/g amateur hardcore I'd still need a real budget almost like a high end scene though, otherwise it wouldn't be worth my own time to bother.

Paul Markham · 08-26-2011, 01:35 AM

Because once it moves into the bought and sold arena it becomes professional. It's possible to buy a version of it, problem is always the price.

Why shoot someone worth shooting for the pennies being offered, when there's $$ to be earned?

Paul Markham · 08-26-2011, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by cabmille

would be nice shooting videos that looks like real amateur, i think it's not so hard!

You need to find real first timers.

We used to see 10 a week on average.

We shot a fast set of them, 30-50 pics and sold it for $400 each.

We still own the set.

These guys asking for amateur want to pay $150 for a set and video exclusive. Getting $400 for it makes these guys run. It always comes down to price.

OP what's your budget?

Also if you rely on agents to find models, forget about it.

Paul Markham · 08-26-2011, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by acctman

its because content provider think like owners and not users. They want to use all there fancy equipment when all that is need is a few everyday models and give them an iphone or canon powershot. sit back and tell the to snap a few pictures if themselves of send them home and tell them to pose in front of there web cam.

any web user with half a brain can tell the difference between real and fake amateur pics.

Rubbish.

I set up my lights, used a good camera. make up and the rest to earn $3,000 a set. Not to screw around shooting rubbish for a few hundred bucks.

On castings we used flash on camera, we could go as low quality as desired. The idea amateur = bad is rubbish as well.

It's about the model not the shooter.

And it's always about the $$$$$$

MaDalton · 08-26-2011, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

As it is, the smallish amount of business I have done on the amateur level was mostly licensing non-exclusive softcore Ex-GF photos shot with a point and shoot camera and no lighting. And the only reason that was even worth it was because the content cost me almost nothing to shoot and gave me a reason to kick out of town models a few extra bucks for traveling and have a way to get my money back.

To shoot g/g or b/g amateur hardcore I'd still need a real budget almost like a high end scene though, otherwise it wouldn't be worth my own time to bother.

what he said...

cabmille · 08-26-2011, 03:39 AM

well, are you telling me to give up this stuff, that costs are too high and payback too low, isn't?
good to know!

Paul Markham · 08-28-2011, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by cabmille

well, are you telling me to give up this stuff, that costs are too high and payback too low, isn't?
good to know!

Personally I've found most of the sites who claim to do fantastically well, convert like it's 1999 and make a fortune. Don't seem so flush when talking to shooters. Especially amateur style sites.

Read what Jim said, it's spot on.

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

Producers don't bother producing much realistic looking amateur style content because it generally doesn't pay much. If it paid more I would be more inclined to bother getting a few young looking teen girls, put them in a house and let them shoot each other with a pocket still and video cam getting naked and playing around. I did something like this on a dorm room set for one client and it came out pretty good, especially considering how picky the guy is. But he was willing to meet my quote.

Pretty much figured out how to make that kind of content look authentic on the second try. First thing to do is dump the model's purse all over the bed & floor and make a mess of the room where we are shooting and put a bunch of posters on the wall to make it look authentic. Then let the talent shoot themselves.

As it is, the smallish amount of business I have done on the amateur level was mostly licensing non-exclusive softcore Ex-GF photos shot with a point and shoot camera and no lighting. And the only reason that was even worth it was because the content cost me almost nothing to shoot and gave me a reason to kick out of town models a few extra bucks for traveling and have a way to get my money back.

To shoot g/g or b/g amateur hardcore I'd still need a real budget almost like a high end scene though, otherwise it wouldn't be worth my own time to bother.

In reality producing real amateur content is easy. The reason most don't bother is as Jim points out, it's not worth our time to bother with it.

The excuses that "professionals can't shoot amateur is clap trap. I could of got couples to turn up at a casting, give the guy a camera and tell him to go shoot his GF. After showing them an example of what was required.

Approx cost.
$200 max for solo, $400 GG $500 BG for the model.

Treble the costs to cover my expense and add a profit. (I have to find new models, set up shoots, interview those who attend a casting to see whose suitable, throw out what's crap, buy equipment, possibility of equipment getting broken, transport, plus other expenses and my time.) Also while doing this for you, I could be shooting something else more profitable.

So $600 solo girl
$1200 GG
$1500 BG.

Order a lot and take anything that turns up and I can sharpen my pencil on the prices.

Do you think it's too much money?

Go tell your best affiliates they want too much money to send you sign ups.

08-25-2011, 02:57 AM	#1
cabmille Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 17	why nobody has real amateur content?!? there are thousand "real" amateur websites with ex gf or POV content but if you wanna buy this kind of stuff it seems impossible...! what the hell is wrong with this?!?

08-25-2011, 03:01 AM	#2
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08-25-2011, 03:18 AM	#4
MaDalton I am Amazing Content! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 39,828	we do have a few packages at http://www.amazingcontent.com/index2...te=bulk_offers - but it's not "real" in the sense of user submitted. but it has all docs for 2257 - opposed to content people "find" on the internet __________________ AmazingContent.com - providing only the best content and service since 2003 Monetize your content on Veegaz.com - one of Germanies largest VOD sites Got German traffic? We convert it into money for you! Skype: madalton02826 - Email: oltecconsult [at] gmail [dot] com

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08-25-2011, 03:50 AM	#9
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acctman Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Atlanta Posts: 2,840	its because content provider think like owners and not users. They want to use all there fancy equipment when all that is need is a few everyday models and give them an iphone or canon powershot. sit back and tell the to snap a few pictures if themselves of send them home and tell them to pose in front of there web cam. any web user with half a brain can tell the difference between real and fake amateur pics.

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08-25-2011, 11:47 PM	#43
GARY LEE Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Paso Robles, CA. U.S.A. Posts: 600	Like they have said before me, shoot it yourself. As I look through the girls for the month of August I've shot: cashier from Jack in the box ice cream and cashier girl from foster freeze cashier from am/pm carnie from our county fair drunk girl from a bar called down town brew girl who loads shelves at Wal-Mart pizza delivery girl from Chubby Chandlers bartender from the graduate and about a half dozen girls who are friends with girls we have shot previously. I'm sure many of you shoot much more content than I do because you own bigger companies but you won't find my girls on your sites. __________________ amateur porn videos lipstick lesbians

08-26-2011, 12:25 AM	#44
Jim_Gunn Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Where The Teens Are Posts: 5,702	Producers don't bother producing much realistic looking amateur style content because it generally doesn't pay much. If it paid more I would be more inclined to bother getting a few young looking teen girls, put them in a house and let them shoot each other with a pocket still and video cam getting naked and playing around. I did something like this on a dorm room set for one client and it came out pretty good, especially considering how picky the guy is. But he was willing to meet my quote. Pretty much figured out how to make that kind of content look authentic on the second try. First thing to do is dump the model's purse all over the bed & floor and make a mess of the room where we are shooting and put a bunch of posters on the wall to make it look authentic. Then let the talent shoot themselves. As it is, the smallish amount of business I have done on the amateur level was mostly licensing non-exclusive softcore Ex-GF photos shot with a point and shoot camera and no lighting. And the only reason that was even worth it was because the content cost me almost nothing to shoot and gave me a reason to kick out of town models a few extra bucks for traveling and have a way to get my money back. To shoot g/g or b/g amateur hardcore I'd still need a real budget almost like a high end scene though, otherwise it wouldn't be worth my own time to bother.

08-26-2011, 01:35 AM	#45
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08-26-2011, 03:39 AM	#49
cabmille Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 17	well, are you telling me to give up this stuff, that costs are too high and payback too low, isn't? good to know!