GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum

GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum (https://gfy.com/index.php)
-   Fucking Around & Business Discussion (https://gfy.com/forumdisplay.php?f=26)
-   -   why nobody has real amateur content?!? (https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1035532)

cabmille 08-25-2011 02:57 AM

why nobody has real amateur content?!?
 
there are thousand "real" amateur websites with ex gf or POV content but if you wanna buy this kind of stuff it seems impossible...!
what the hell is wrong with this?!?

buildingfutures 08-25-2011 03:01 AM

Not true man. There's a couple of guys around who sell proper amateur/ex-gf stuff. Wait around a bit and they'll show up here.

cabmille 08-25-2011 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buildingfutures (Post 18378974)
Not true man. There's a couple of guys around who sell proper amateur/ex-gf stuff. Wait around a bit and they'll show up here.

i'm waiting, thanks!

MaDalton 08-25-2011 03:18 AM

we do have a few packages at http://www.amazingcontent.com/index2...te=bulk_offers - but it's not "real" in the sense of user submitted. but it has all docs for 2257 - opposed to content people "find" on the internet

seeandsee 08-25-2011 03:27 AM

you ask too much, who will have license for that

V_RocKs 08-25-2011 03:35 AM

It is hard to find a girl that was amateur a year ago that is able to go back to being amateur on video...

cabmille 08-25-2011 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 18379025)
It is hard to find a girl that was amateur a year ago that is able to go back to being amateur on video...

would be nice shooting videos that looks like real amateur, i think it's not so hard!

CurrentlySober 08-25-2011 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabmille (Post 18379035)
would be nice shooting videos that looks like real amateur, i think it's not so hard!

So go fucking do it dipshit, and quit whining like a baby on GFY... :2 cents:

vdbucks 08-25-2011 03:50 AM

All sites at http://vdbucks.com are 100% pure amateur. If you have Asian traffic at all, hit me up.

CamTraffic 08-25-2011 04:04 AM

Naught Rob has some good amateur content

Bladewire 08-25-2011 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabmille (Post 18378970)
there are thousand "real" amateur websites with ex gf or POV content but if you wanna buy this kind of stuff it seems impossible...!
what the hell is wrong with this?!?

What's wrong with this is that you see an opportunity to make money, and instead of taking that opportunity, you post asking "why nobody has this" , "what the hell is wrong with this" , and " i think it's not so hard!":jerkoff

pornguy 08-25-2011 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 18379046)
So go fucking do it dipshit, and quit whining like a baby on GFY... :2 cents:

Easy Tiger..

did you miss your daily infusion of Poo???? Never seen you that aggressive.

charlie g 08-25-2011 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabmille (Post 18378970)
there are thousand "real" amateur websites with ex gf or POV content but if you wanna buy this kind of stuff it seems impossible...!
what the hell is wrong with this?!?

What's your contact info?

The Duck 08-25-2011 04:41 AM

Check the stuff in my sig.

Captain Kawaii 08-25-2011 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabmille (Post 18378970)
there are thousand "real" amateur websites with ex gf or POV content but if you wanna buy this kind of stuff it seems impossible...!
what the hell is wrong with this?!?

What are you looking for? Hit me up...I shoot across all ethnic amateur niches...

Bladewire 08-25-2011 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 18379113)
Easy Tiger..

did you miss your daily infusion of Poo???? Never seen you that aggressive.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

You used tiger and poo in the same post !

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_kGNb335i_D...ing+tigers.jpg

arock10 08-25-2011 05:28 AM

There are plenty of amateur girls, just not a lot shot amateur style

onedree 08-25-2011 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabmille (Post 18378970)
there are thousand "real" amateur websites with ex gf or POV content but if you wanna buy this kind of stuff it seems impossible...!
what the hell is wrong with this?!?

I have been a member here since 2005 ... I would be amazed to see one content provider offering real honest to goodness girl next door amateur content as such.



Jo-Leigh 08-25-2011 06:15 AM

Quote:

You used tiger and poo in the same post !


That tiger face is priceless!

acctman 08-25-2011 06:52 AM

its because content provider think like owners and not users. They want to use all there fancy equipment when all that is need is a few everyday models and give them an iphone or canon powershot. sit back and tell the to snap a few pictures if themselves of send them home and tell them to pose in front of there web cam.

any web user with half a brain can tell the difference between real and fake amateur pics.

MaDalton 08-25-2011 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acctman (Post 18379310)
its because content provider think like owners and not users. They want to use all there fancy equipment when all that is need is a few everyday models and give them an iphone or canon powershot. sit back and tell the to snap a few pictures if themselves of send them home and tell them to pose in front of there web cam.

any web user with half a brain can tell the difference between real and fake amateur pics.

you are right in many cases, we also had to learn that less equipment and less skills make more authentic content.

we have now someone "shoot" exGf content for us who has never worked as photographer before and we gave him just amateur equipment

but the problem is also the pricing. for some reason the prices for this type of content were extremely low right from the beginning. so paying couples for hardcore amateur content is for us simply too risky. it seems to work only for those who also run their own sites and make real money with this

Si 08-25-2011 07:52 AM

I only have 1 set available at the moment, see below :thumbsup

It is real self shot stuff she done at home.

Phoenix 08-25-2011 07:55 AM

we have a ton of amateur content
multiple series of it in fact.

AaronM 08-25-2011 09:09 AM

I have the following domains available for any content providers who shoot this sort of stuff.

REALAMATEURCONTENT.COM
REALITYVIDEOPRODUCTIONS.COM
REALWEBCAMCONTENT.COM

Barry-xlovecam 08-25-2011 09:18 AM

Model releases and ID documents ...

NaughtyRob 08-25-2011 10:14 AM

Look in the sell and buy section.

cabmille 08-25-2011 10:28 AM

thanks to everybody!! (exept CurrentlySober)

cabmille 08-25-2011 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie g (Post 18379120)
What's your contact info?

[email protected]
contact me if you have something...
thanks!

cabmille 08-25-2011 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squirtit (Post 18379098)
What's wrong with this is that you see an opportunity to make money, and instead of taking that opportunity, you post asking "why nobody has this" , "what the hell is wrong with this" , and " i think it's not so hard!":jerkoff

i would like making money with this, but i have no knowledge about how to be a producer because i'm new in this matter!

CurrentlySober 08-25-2011 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 18379113)
Easy Tiger..

did you miss your daily infusion of Poo???? Never seen you that aggressive.

I'll tell you why I am 'agressive' (And you are right - I rarely ever am...) I used to want a certain type of content, about 10 years ago... No one had it... So what did I do? Come to GFY and complain, then say it was 'Easy'?

No... I invested money, bought equipment, booked models, booked locations, shot it myself, bought hosting - Set up billing, built the site myself... etc etc etc....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squirtit (Post 18379182)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

You used tiger and poo in the same post !

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_kGNb335i_D...ing+tigers.jpg

Thexy!

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabmille (Post 18379796)
thanks to everybody!! (exept CurrentlySober)

Get FUCKED you lazy asshole! If what you want is SO EASY... Go Shoot it yourself! After all... Its EASY! :2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

CurrentlySober 08-25-2011 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabmille (Post 18379842)
i would like making money with this, but i have no knowledge about how to be a producer because i'm new in this matter!

Amateur = BEING NEW!!!

Thats my point. Get a cheap ass camera, and go and shoot some girls... Fuck it up? Be amateur... Its what you want! ANd its NOT rocket science either...

CurrentlySober 08-25-2011 11:22 AM

Apologies if I appear to be a cunt, but I am just giving you a healthy dose of reality in 2011...

just a punk 08-25-2011 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabmille (Post 18378970)
there are thousand "real" amateur websites with ex gf or POV content but if you wanna buy this kind of stuff it seems impossible...!
what the hell is wrong with this?!?

A lot of affiliate programs provide real (non-stage) amateur content. Course they don't have 2257 on it. Some have been already caught using underage content. Do you wanna deal with it? "Good luck" then! :disgust

CurrentlySober 08-25-2011 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 18379945)
A lot of affiliate programs provide real (non-stage) amateur content. Course they don't have 2257 on it. Some have been already caught using underage content. Do you wanna deal with it? "Good luck" then! :disgust

Yup... Which in part, is why I am strongly suggesting he shoots his own.. :2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

garce 08-25-2011 02:41 PM

The best "real" amateur porn is available on Youtube - you just need to subscribe to the right people.

Download video.
Upload to your site.
???
Profit.

While not exactly porn, here's a sample:


Far-L 08-25-2011 03:21 PM

Homegrown Video knows what real amateur porn looks like
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by onedree (Post 18379236)
I have been a member here since 2005 ... I would be amazed to see one content provider offering real honest to goodness girl next door amateur content as such.



We have it. But we don't sell it outright. We lease feeds*.

But we certainly know the difference between the real and the fake. Homegrown Video was literally the first company to sell REAL amateur porn. Not the stuff shot to look amateur. REAL amateur as in homemade by people that are not going to become big name porn stars or stars seen on every site, aren't going to have their own sites, and doing it for the fun as much as for the cash.
It looks different. It feels different. It is different.

Some will say "oh, but you don't have picture sets to go with every video" Well... real amateurs don't shoot pics and matching video.

Some will say, "that stuff is shot on a tripod". Well, real amateurs don't necessarily have a professional videographer to record the action.

Some will say "but she isn't that hot a model or the lighting sucks etc." Well real amateurs aren't girls that spent an hour or two getting hair and makeup done by a professional and they don't have Kino soft light boxes etc.

To all those folks we say... Good luck then because real amateur is something that is unique and surfers know the difference too which is why Homegrown is so enduring.

/rant

(*In the midst of a transition from our previous vendor, we are working with SEXentertain now but it will be a few more weeks before they have everything up so I would recommend waiting if you are interested)

cabmille 08-25-2011 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 18379945)
A lot of affiliate programs provide real (non-stage) amateur content. Course they don't have 2257 on it. Some have been already caught using underage content. Do you wanna deal with it? "Good luck" then! :disgust

sure not! that's why i'm here trying buying content!!

cabmille 08-25-2011 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 18379932)
Apologies if I appear to be a cunt, but I am just giving you a healthy dose of reality in 2011...

ehi easy, i'm here just since 2 weeks not 9 years! i think it's not useful being so mad.

arock10 08-25-2011 03:48 PM

there is some teen, 20yr old stuff - but I cant find anything but skinny white bitches when it comes to gf content. Someone needs to start fucking old women

Mutt 08-25-2011 04:01 PM

because all of the people in the ex-gf niche would rather steal their content of 16 year old girls from chan sites and each other. they throw guys like Robert a bone and buy his stuff to make themselves feel like they're half legit.

LeRoy 08-25-2011 04:32 PM

Why dont you shoot it yourself?

Easy peasy

shimmy2 08-25-2011 05:40 PM

if your looking to film amateurs don't forget your paper aphrodisiac.

http://www.shimmysbookmarks.com/rainamoney2.jpg

GARY LEE 08-25-2011 11:47 PM

Like they have said before me, shoot it yourself. As I look through the girls for the month of August I've shot:
cashier from Jack in the box
ice cream and cashier girl from foster freeze
cashier from am/pm
carnie from our county fair
drunk girl from a bar called down town brew
girl who loads shelves at Wal-Mart
pizza delivery girl from Chubby Chandlers
bartender from the graduate
and about a half dozen girls who are friends with girls we have shot previously.
I'm sure many of you shoot much more content than I do because you own bigger companies but you won't find my girls on your sites.

Jim_Gunn 08-26-2011 12:25 AM

Producers don't bother producing much realistic looking amateur style content because it generally doesn't pay much. If it paid more I would be more inclined to bother getting a few young looking teen girls, put them in a house and let them shoot each other with a pocket still and video cam getting naked and playing around. I did something like this on a dorm room set for one client and it came out pretty good, especially considering how picky the guy is. But he was willing to meet my quote.

Pretty much figured out how to make that kind of content look authentic on the second try. First thing to do is dump the model's purse all over the bed & floor and make a mess of the room where we are shooting and put a bunch of posters on the wall to make it look authentic. Then let the talent shoot themselves.

As it is, the smallish amount of business I have done on the amateur level was mostly licensing non-exclusive softcore Ex-GF photos shot with a point and shoot camera and no lighting. And the only reason that was even worth it was because the content cost me almost nothing to shoot and gave me a reason to kick out of town models a few extra bucks for traveling and have a way to get my money back.

To shoot g/g or b/g amateur hardcore I'd still need a real budget almost like a high end scene though, otherwise it wouldn't be worth my own time to bother.

Paul Markham 08-26-2011 01:35 AM

Because once it moves into the bought and sold arena it becomes professional. It's possible to buy a version of it, problem is always the price.

Why shoot someone worth shooting for the pennies being offered, when there's $$ to be earned?

Paul Markham 08-26-2011 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabmille (Post 18379035)
would be nice shooting videos that looks like real amateur, i think it's not so hard!

You need to find real first timers.

We used to see 10 a week on average.

We shot a fast set of them, 30-50 pics and sold it for $400 each.

We still own the set.

These guys asking for amateur want to pay $150 for a set and video exclusive. Getting $400 for it makes these guys run. It always comes down to price.

OP what's your budget?

Also if you rely on agents to find models, forget about it.

Paul Markham 08-26-2011 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acctman (Post 18379310)
its because content provider think like owners and not users. They want to use all there fancy equipment when all that is need is a few everyday models and give them an iphone or canon powershot. sit back and tell the to snap a few pictures if themselves of send them home and tell them to pose in front of there web cam.

any web user with half a brain can tell the difference between real and fake amateur pics.

Rubbish.

I set up my lights, used a good camera. make up and the rest to earn $3,000 a set. Not to screw around shooting rubbish for a few hundred bucks.

On castings we used flash on camera, we could go as low quality as desired. The idea amateur = bad is rubbish as well.

It's about the model not the shooter.

And it's always about the $$$$$$ :thumbsup

MaDalton 08-26-2011 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 18381135)
As it is, the smallish amount of business I have done on the amateur level was mostly licensing non-exclusive softcore Ex-GF photos shot with a point and shoot camera and no lighting. And the only reason that was even worth it was because the content cost me almost nothing to shoot and gave me a reason to kick out of town models a few extra bucks for traveling and have a way to get my money back.

To shoot g/g or b/g amateur hardcore I'd still need a real budget almost like a high end scene though, otherwise it wouldn't be worth my own time to bother.

what he said...

cabmille 08-26-2011 03:39 AM

well, are you telling me to give up this stuff, that costs are too high and payback too low, isn't?
good to know!

Paul Markham 08-28-2011 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabmille (Post 18381302)
well, are you telling me to give up this stuff, that costs are too high and payback too low, isn't?
good to know!

Personally I've found most of the sites who claim to do fantastically well, convert like it's 1999 and make a fortune. Don't seem so flush when talking to shooters. Especially amateur style sites.

Read what Jim said, it's spot on.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 18381135)
Producers don't bother producing much realistic looking amateur style content because it generally doesn't pay much. If it paid more I would be more inclined to bother getting a few young looking teen girls, put them in a house and let them shoot each other with a pocket still and video cam getting naked and playing around. I did something like this on a dorm room set for one client and it came out pretty good, especially considering how picky the guy is. But he was willing to meet my quote.

Pretty much figured out how to make that kind of content look authentic on the second try. First thing to do is dump the model's purse all over the bed & floor and make a mess of the room where we are shooting and put a bunch of posters on the wall to make it look authentic. Then let the talent shoot themselves.

As it is, the smallish amount of business I have done on the amateur level was mostly licensing non-exclusive softcore Ex-GF photos shot with a point and shoot camera and no lighting. And the only reason that was even worth it was because the content cost me almost nothing to shoot and gave me a reason to kick out of town models a few extra bucks for traveling and have a way to get my money back.

To shoot g/g or b/g amateur hardcore I'd still need a real budget almost like a high end scene though, otherwise it wouldn't be worth my own time to bother.

In reality producing real amateur content is easy. The reason most don't bother is as Jim points out, it's not worth our time to bother with it.

The excuses that "professionals can't shoot amateur is clap trap. I could of got couples to turn up at a casting, give the guy a camera and tell him to go shoot his GF. After showing them an example of what was required.

Approx cost.
$200 max for solo, $400 GG $500 BG for the model.

Treble the costs to cover my expense and add a profit. (I have to find new models, set up shoots, interview those who attend a casting to see whose suitable, throw out what's crap, buy equipment, possibility of equipment getting broken, transport, plus other expenses and my time.) Also while doing this for you, I could be shooting something else more profitable.

So $600 solo girl
$1200 GG
$1500 BG.

Order a lot and take anything that turns up and I can sharpen my pencil on the prices.

Do you think it's too much money?

Go tell your best affiliates they want too much money to send you sign ups. :1orglaugh


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:28 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
©2000-, AI Media Network Inc123