now there are ;)

please sign this petition to ban pit bulls.

LOL, I have a pit in my house, he's not a danger to me, but if you jump my fence?

Guess you didn't see the video I posted, Shepards and Rot's are more dangerous

Most all pits that end up in shelters are put to death

Guns owners vs pitbull owners + gun related deaths in north america vs pitbull related deaths = wtf people have bigger issues to deal with. Perhaps we should ban the breeding of people who demonstrate a history of violence towards other people? :winkwink:


But really though its a dog, nobody can argue its not a dangerous breed, but really how many pets can we put under that header.. Snakes, spiders, large cat breeds etc. We as people have to remeber they are animals and act out of instinct not logic or reason. We choose to surround ourselves with pets dangerous or not we as people and pet owners need to be ready to accept the consiquences of that.

another day another half dozen pit attack stories.

http://www.timesunion.com/local/arti...ed-2142038.php

As dogs mauled her, she prayed
Victim of vicious pit bull attack recounts horrific ordeal and her will to live

not much in google news about poodle attacks for some reason.

I think porn jew had a bad experience with a dog when he was young, mabye one didn't return his affection?

Didn't Sparky lie you licking him there?

thats because your too fucking stupid to read
http://www.igorilla.com/gorilla/anim...s_angeles.html

Monday, October 9, 2000

to put it simply: fail.

You have nothing to add to the conversation as usual, you are here by deemed a troll and will be added to the no fly list

http://www.dog-obedience-training-on...-by-breed.html

here's the stats from 82 to 06 , I can see it now, let you guys get rid of one race of dogs and then whats next, move on to the next, pretty fucking nice of you

"Dog Bite" is not "Fatal Dog Attack"

THAT is where pitbulls run into a problem. All dogs bite. Not all dogs murder. Of course I published a study to illustrate the problem and you aren't interested in reading it. But you believe everyone needs to read your drivel or watch your videos to "get it"

:2 cents:

Well this went crazy.

I have a pit mix - at the free range kennel where she is boarded when we go out of town she is known as "The Peacemaker" because of her calming influence on other dogs. My dog is highly trained and very socialized with not only other dogs but cats too, in fact, she won't even chase a squirrel unless she gets the A-OK.

Many breeds are more agressive than pits. Dachsunds are extremely agressive but of course they don't have the power to do much harm. However, any breed that is overly bred by irresponsible breeders is going to have issues. Two decades ago German Shepards and Dobies had the rep that pits have now. Then Ratts and pits... but whatever... Akitas are probably next. The fact is that much of the animosity toward any of these dogs is propaganda that is heavily biased and often based on racial profiling that is obviously prejudiced.

Any breeding that focuses on agressive traits will create issues of course but the problem is humans that want agressive animals and don't know how to respect those behaviours and disregard the obvious risks inherent.

However, the truth is that Staffordshire Terriers have historically been considered one of the SAFEST pets around kids. But folks that don't know better recoil from them like they are going to lose their marbles at any second and attack. Which is just not the case. Your average human has no idea between an American Bull Terrier bred for fighting though and a family friendly Staff so there you go.

In reality, the breed is considered a working breed though and not a fighting dog; they were used primarily by people that couldn't afford horses to pull carts.( you can't sell apples from a cart people were scared to approach now could you... ) In truth, pits have been glamourized as fighting dogs but they are too small and bull mastifs and Akitas have a much longer history as fighting dogs.

I agree with Lady Mischief... humans should be required to have licenses to own pets.

That study I put up was proof that a pits bite is a lot less powerful than that of a Rot, whats your point?

You actually did research and PUBLISHED a study, or did you find a study that went along with the other bull shit made up of lies from people that are scared of their own shadows and posted a link?

Good post, my brother has a bull mastiff, gentle dog, yet freaked out when she was taken to the beach out of her comfort zone and bite my brother and dragged him to the ground. He still has the dog and trusts the dog to be in the house around the kids. She weighs in at 195 lbs. Yeah, kinda skinny

Agreed 100%

No.. you followed it with remarks about eliminating a breed. Something no one has said should happen and further, who's bite is more powerful or not is hardly the reason there is breed specific legislation.

Funny... so now the published study by emergency room doctors is "lies from people scared of their own shadows"?


so...

Doctors are liars.
Medical journals that publish medical studies are liars
The media are liars
anyone that disagrees with you is a liar or has some personality disorder.

Got it.

Dogs never bite or attack unless they have shitty and irresponsible owners.

You've made that clear multiple times.

Please have a talk with your irresponsible brother. (you know, the one who trusts the massive dog that attacked him and drug him to the ground to be with his children)

:2 cents:

the number 1 dog to attack a human is a cocker spaniel the 2nd most common is the dalmation ... pit bulls on the list? 7th from last

Again "bite" and "murdered by a dog" are not the same thing.

But the thing is, you really cant take that at face value. Cocker Spaniels and Dalmations are among the most popular breed, whereas the Pit Bull is at the lower end of popularity. I think what has been argued here, is that the Pit Bull makes up a disproportionate % of the number of attacks according to their popularity.

You want to ban all of the breed because of the killings, yet you agree that irresponsilble owners are to blame, can't you make up your mind?

I love how you only read into what you can use against me, the dog got freaked by the surroundings.

Mastiff's by nature are a very gentle breed, but any dog if freaked about something can be dangerous. It's called temporary insanity, seems you have a more permanent version

I think getting rid of a breed based on math is kinda silly

Priceless :1orglaugh

What part? I know you're limited to 8 characters, so keep it short please

Are you drunk?

Priceless :1orglaugh

No, i agree that owners are one part of a multifaceted problem. Its all those who love pitbulls so much trying to continually make the argument that its just owners and dogs themselves are super wonderful and only eat cotton candy and dreams.

Oh.. .so the irresponsible owner freaked his dog out and caused to attack him.
Er.. ok. Thanks for the clarification. Lets just be grateful that one of his children wasn't killed had the 195lb animal chose to bite them in the head. Thank god.

Oh... here we are again. "A gentle breed". A phrase which again, implies there are meaner breeds. Of course, that wouldn't be Pitbulls. Never. That's just impossible according to those arguing your point.


I've never seen more irrational behavior that you people arguing for pitbulls. No one wants to kill them. Notice the choice itself is framed so irrationally "kill them all or do nothing". Thats absurd. No one is pushing for responsible ownership, licensing or training for owners. Seems like you would be doing that except you fear that any admission of a problem will somehow cause the dogs to be "killed" as you keep putting it.

Everyone gets that you love dogs. Everyone gets that you love pitbulls. They are being outlawed everywhere because you are incapable of both handling a rational discussion or making a rational defense. Basically, you sound like a bitch who is PMS'ing... Just changing the subject, talking in circles and ignoring facts.

As for me, I have a benefit in participating in this discussion. I am not wedded to either side. There seems to be some undeniable facts. There is a problem. The degree of the problem is in question. It does in fact exist. The dogs murder. The dogs murder innocent women and children. Some owners are assholes. Some dogs randomly attack. Breeding is a problem. Temperament is a problem. Having a nice pitbull that your kids love doesn't mean pitbulls do not kill kids.

BTW... just a completely random test. A highly educated woman (holds 2 phd's)... 50 years old that runs an entire school district in one of the largest cities in the nation just walked into my office. Before saying "hello", I bluntly asked her "what do you think of pitbulls". Her answer "i hate them, they are dangerous".

So blame the media all you want. The perception is the reality. Assume the perception is wrong (i don't see that as being true), it is still the reality. You are not changing that, you are basically just calling those people brainwashed and idiots - which means you will lose the argument every single time when it comes time to pass legislation, as you currently are.

By banning a breed, that means killing them. Period, ask any dog shelter

and as far as your person holding two PHD's, that means she's educated, not smart.

The world is full of educated idiots, look at congress

Dude... again, there you go. IF someone doesn't agree with you, they're not smart. There are no limits to your irrationality and condescension. That's why you are losing the argument nationwide. That's why communities and cities are banning them. No one here is saying "kill them". Just you.

"Banning them" means you can't own them in a certain area. It doesn't mean "murdering them" all.

Again, you are not pushing for any sort of rational, reasonable solution, you have an impossible "there is no problem, if you think their is, you're an idiot" type attitude which is why all you can do is stand by and watch them be banned.

You're arguments are so silly and backwards. Its like people pushing to outlaw Los Zetas and you are saying "but i have two for neighbors and they are wonderful with my kids, plus they buy swing sets for the playground". Its not the positives that are the problem.

Anyway, fire away. Done pointing out the obvious flaws in your emotionally driven drivel. The fact is you are on the losing side because you can't make sense or be rational. Enjoy your dog while you can. Probably your city is next to ban them because everyone but pitbull owners are just dumb people who can't "get it".

You're the one that posted about the opinion of someone that has two phd's like there opinion means more, and it doesn't

You say not killing them, call an animal shelter and ask them about that.

Not saying I have neighbors that have them, I have one in my house

How is this drivel? Because it's different from your point of view? Am I not allowed to have a different point of view from yours, are you that narrow minded? Do you teach your kids that your way is the only way,I taught my daughter to have a open mind.

Then you're saying that I said there is no problem, I never said that, people are responsible for this shit, not the dogs. I'm saying the problem lies with irresponsible owners and pussies that are afraid of anything the press tells them.
Anyone that thinks trained guard dogs are not dangerous are fucking morons, thats there job. Would I go into someones yard with a pit on the loose , no way.

they way he is typing and ranting he does seem drunk. didn't know video secrets allowed drinking on the job.

It's their not there you fucking retard.

Just a friendly reminder :2 cents:

Yet I have a differing view to you, but am apparently a retard, moron, dipshit, etc.

You kill all your own so-called reasoning with all of your own so-called reasoning, and have done so throughout this thread. That you can't see it shows how blinkered you are, not only on the subject of whether the breeding of pitbulls should cease, but on the very point you are failing to make above.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...t-to-lion.html

There we go - proof that lions are big loveable balls of fur. They should be kept as pets, as long as the owners know how to handle them, they won't be a problem at all. Let's face statistical facts, more people are killed each year worldwide by bees or mosquitos, than by lions.

thanks for that but I do not own makingcoin, sorry to hear that they owe you money hopefully you can get that shit sorted out.

:2 cents: the fact that this thread is still going is a shame for all of us...

Breeds of dog other than the pit bull terrier are often involved in dog attacks, but nevertheless are are often mistaken as pit bull dogs. I know from personal experience that most people have no clue what a pit bull looks like. I have people ask me all the time what breed my dog is most of them are surprised when I tell them he is a pit bull because he is nothing like the type of dog that the media reports on. Unfortunately a lot of people have nothing but media reports to base their opinion on so their ignorance is not their fault, there should be more responsibility on the media's part to get their facts straight before reporting on a story.

See if you can identify the pit bull Terrier?
http://dogexpert.com/Pitbull%20terri...t%20bulls.html

http://dogexpert.com/Epidemiologic%2...m%20today.html
Nearly 30 years ago the dog bite problem was characterized as a public health "epidemic". Since then, the topic of dog bites has received much attention both in the scientific literature and popular press. The focus in many reports has been about the circumstances in which dog bites occur, characteristics of the biting dogs and the person bitten, public health costs, medical treatment, etc. Scores of statistics have emerged on this topic. The most useful show that children are the victims in a disproportional amount of dog bites, particularly boys under the age of 10, and that the German Shepherd dog is the breed involved in most instances. These basic results hold for most western European countries, and Australia and New Zealand.

There is a lot of great reliable information on this website, banning a breed won't prevent you from being bitten but being properly informed might. Stop the witch hunt educate yourself instead
http://dogexpert.com

Say goodbye to the human race. That is one nasty breed of animal that harms a lot more than any one breed of dog.

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Wow, I can't remember the last time I saw a Dalmatian and while I do recall seeing a cocker a couple weeks ago, I would have a hard time putting it at the top of the list of most popular dog breeds.

Have a reliance for that?

My friend has 3 pits and they are nicer then my small dog. It's the owners that need to die not the dogs.

Im sure you know how to reach him so why not pass the message? Or are you ok with having a program in your Sig who isn't paying?

You're a dipshit, retard etc because you came in to this thread with stats. more pit bulls are involved with killings. See that's your problem, you know why more people die from .22 guns? There are more of them.
Just like pit bulls, the reason there are more pit bull attacks is more of them are trained to be that way. But you're too much of a fucking idiot, moron, dip shit to see that, you only have your numbers and your selective as to what numbers you use.

Quit being a moron and realize that when people are going to train a dog to be an attack dog , they are gong to pick the one that everyones afraid of, would you pick a chow to be a guard dog? No, even though they make a great guard dog.

For someone that spells low with out the W, you're pretty bright for a moron

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another day, another attack.

http://www.taftmidwaydriller.com/hig...ll-on-A-Street

It all started just before 2 p.m. when Animal Control Officer Tracy Bryan was dispatched to a report of a vicious dog on the 600 block on A Street.

Lt. Ed Whiting said Bryan found the large pit bull attacking a a dog being walked by its owner.

Fearing the dog was going to get loose just across the street from Parkview School with children about to be let out, one of the officers shot and killed the dog, Whiting said.

I think pitbulls should be allowed to drink and drive on roads with no speed limits whilst using an iMac and playing with their foreskins.