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200 bad doggies
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Oh, thought that was Leslie. |
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My opinion has changed in recent times some what. I believed they should be disposed of for a long time, but a breeder i know made a very good point that changed my view a bit. If you outlaw them out right, to the last dog or variation that wont stop the problem. These morons who want 'fighting dogs' will just selectively choose more aggressive labs or more aggressive rotwilers or whatever they want instead. Breeders, the real ones, use temperament as part of the selection when they choose them for breeding stock. If they get a dog in their litter that is uncontrollably snappy, aggressive or otherwise unsafe THEY DON'T BREED IT. With pitbulls they do the exact opposite. So everyone coming on here talking about owners raising them wrong, that is only a fraction of the problem. If they started taking responsibility with their breeding practices nobody would ever be on about getting rid of those dogs. Why anyone would want a fighting dog is truly beyond me, there are so many dogs out there with amazing characteristics and abilities--even dogs that do a better job of protection! |
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Its a complex problem. It's breeders. It's owners. It's sometimes just the dogs themselves. It doesn't boil down to "my dog is great, so there is no problems at all" or "they are murderers and should all be put to sleep or outlawed" Denying there is a legitimate problem is stupid. Thinking there is a simple solution that will make everyone happy is equally stupid. |
LOVE IT... its NOT the dogs its the DOG OWNERS!
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I have raised dogs all my life and have had some pretty ferocious ones. The meanest have to be the Chihuahua's those little shits will bite ankles with good behavioral training. Right now I have a Mini Dachshund that is really good but she came from a no-kill shelter and must have been abused or hurt as a puppy because she does not like dark clothed people she will go batshit crazy barking if she doesnt know you or we dont tell her we let them in.
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just since I saw this thread and then I read this here so I figured I'd share:
http://www.kold.com/story/15265488/p...loses-left-arm |
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the pit bull owners should be put to sleep.
thread closed. |
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dogs are animals
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more people die from bicycles .. ban bicycles, cars too , oh shit and forks,, those things are crazy dangerous.
Lets just make it simple and ban stupid people. |
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...11/detail.html
Pit Bulls Attack, Kill Dog In Arvada Neighborhood Neighbors Say It's Not The First Time These Dogs Attacked "They grabbed my dog and disemboweled him right in front of me," |
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You goofs keep proving points against yourselves lol. A responsible pit bull owner would know "pits are bred to be dog aggressive".
A responsible owner wouldn't be having to break up a fight or watch it disembowel a smaller dog. |
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if one person dies from ketchup do you think there would not be a recall? |
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another one of the stories that come about every day about pit bulls and their reign of terror.
NY woman severely injured by 3 pit bulls Police in Schenectady say a woman in her 30s suffered severe injuries to her face, arms and legs when three pit bulls attacked her as she walked along a city street. http://online.wsj.com/article/AP2018...b33139bc3.html |
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It's the people that want to buy a dog just to have it as an ornament... and don't want to actually step up to the responsibility of owning one that give the pit bull and many other dogs a bad name. Do you think having 2 big dogs of any kind in your car with the window open and unrestrained in a neighborhood where small punk ass big mouthed dogs frequent is a good idea? Or do you think this is only a pit bull thing? |
the point is at some time the dogs are going to escape the yard, come off the leash, shit happens.,
and when they do, they tend to kill and maim anything they can get their teeth on. it's not normal to have killing machines running around the neighborhood maiming little kids. |
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I'm speaking from personal experience with these dogs. I grew up in NYC, the dog fighting capital. Was raised to think of them as killing machines and have witness first hand MANY dog fights and wild pit bulls. As a kid I've profited from people who thought of them as dim witted killing machines.
I know that it's how you raise them. They want to please you and be what you want them to be. They beg for your authority and guidance if you're doing it right. If you just let them raise themselves, abuse them, keep them in the yard... no socializing, etc. You're gonna have a monster. These guys are big ass energetic terriers. |
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that may be normal in the ghetto but not in civilized society. :2 cents: |
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Ok, fine. Not the dogs fault. So if owners can be criminally negligent and cause their dog to kill and just can't accept the responsibility that goes with owning a PitBull then how is that different than owning any other thing that kills innocent people and therefore restricting it ownership/use? |
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we can start a thread about other dangerous dogs as well. this thread is about pit bulls and their threat to society.
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yet another from google news today http://www.twincities.com/ci_18740399
A separate pit bull-involved attack occurred Monday afternoon in the 1100 block of Ross Avenue East. The dog, Diamond, was not at its permanent residence when it escaped and bit a man walking by on the forearm, Wiese said. http://www.twincities.com/ci_18740399 |
i have reported this thread to Shorty http://www.shortywood.com/shortywood.htm asking for a response.......
*love the show PitBoss! |
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I find it ironic that a jew such as yourself are for the extmerination of anything since Hitler used excuses as to why jews should be extinct. |
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Cesar Millan trains people and rehabilitates dogs... |
pit bull owners don't kill people. the pit bulls do. :2 cents:
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you guys talk about other dogs ok. lets check out google news for "Alaskan Malamute."
no maimings ... no children killed .... just "Four paws up for Woofstock The Skonesey family from Mokena decided to take its dog, Ace, a 3-year-old Alaskan Malamute, to Woofstock at the last minute. “When we saw the ad in the paper today we’re like, ‘Let’s go!’ ” Michelle Skonesey said. “As a family we try to do stuff on Sundays. It’s a family day.” Ace, who is trained in weight pulling and sledding, carried two of Skonesey’s daughters on a large black cart that was decorated with handmade “Woodstock 2011” signs and sparkly garland. Ace won the Most Accessorized contest." |
I'm personally a big supporter of the GSD(properly bred and from good lines)... however, I'm also very anti ignorance, so...
You understand that APBT and others that are "real" pit bulls(some breeders throw other shit in there for aggression and call them pits) actually have an incredibly good temperament, especially around children... correct? Up until the middle part of the 20th century, they were considered THE family dog to own. They were only aggressive towards other animals. However... they've always had a bad case of separation anxiety(because their love for humans is so strong).. so, putting them in isolation the first year of their lives will create an incredibly mean dog. Ignorance is one thing.. ignorance with an emotional, knee-jerk reaction is even worse. Also.. the GSD, Rott, Belgian Malinois, and Mastiff have WAY stronger bites/jaws than a pit.. pits don't have "lock jaw".. I promise you if my GSD got a hold of you, you'd have a lot more damage than if any pit did. The pit only has something like 230lbs psi of pressure on their bite... Rotts and Mastiffs are 400+.. GSD is about 290+ and BM is about 260+. Learn some facts before you go on a crusade. |
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On an unrelated note, a friend has a Malamute/Timberwolf hybrid and that thing is a beast. He's a K9 officer and has 2 GSD's plus this dog.. they're all super good with his kids.. too good.. nobody can get close to them except him and other kids. :1orglaugh |
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And pits are not very good for protection. GSD, Rott, BM, Dobie, and certain types of Mastiffs are much more suited for the job. |
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those numbers have to be way off. there were multiple pit bull maulings in the last week.
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