From your experience would you say that pits are dog aggressive? I know a few pit owners. The dogs are great around people (from what I have seen), but they go bat shit crazy when around other dogs.

I haven't ever encountered a Lion - does this mean they aren't dangerous to humans after all, contrary to what I've been led to believe?

http://www.news.com.au/national/pitb...-1226117867049

The family of four-year-old Ayen Chol, who was mauled to death by a pitbull terrier cross on Wednesday.

The dog had run from a house only 50m away on the opposite side of the street in St Albans, northwest Melbourne.

Ayen was killed instantly. Her five-year-old cousin, Nyadeng, received head injuries and Nyadeng's mother was bitten on her hands and arm as she tried to save her girls,

http://resources2.news.com.au/images...-st-albans.jpg

RIP Ayen.

Something I read awhile ago on accidental deaths in North America, unfortunately I am unable to find the reference at this time, but I could change that to automobile accidents if you would like, or even drunk driving maybe we should ban cars and alcohol as well.

I really have to go now, I have shit to do no more time to teach those that do not want to learn. have a good day with your limited mental capacity, don't forget to breath :upsidedow

if not properly socialized any dog can be aggressive to other dogs/animals. Mine is really well socialized with all animals, my buddies cats actually chase him when I am at his house, it's all in how they are raised.

Here is your problem and that of pitbull owners.

You act like there is no legitimate concern. You act like anyone that has a concern is just an ignorant asshole. Guess what!? Your beloved dogs ate being outlawed. Obviously there is some reason for concern. Further, you and yours CAN'T overturn or rescind this sort if legislation in spite of all your claims that pitbulls just eat rainbows and leave a trail of pixie dust as they gleefully hop from cloud to cloud. That also tells me something.

I just posted a study. Care to refute it with facts? Or you going to take the Jane Goodall approach and argue how amazing and wonderful they are until they tear a neighbors child apart or worse.

You're emotional. I don't think or care about pitbulls anymore than I think or care about traveling to Dubuque. Now we find your life is about pitbulls. The fact that you summarily dismiss and and all conelcerns simply shows how incapable of rational debate you are in this issue.

Pregnant woman killed by pit bull died from blood loss, shock

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...77F02820110816

Bertini said there was so far no evidence to indicate that the dogs had been trained to be aggressive.

Boy scarred for life after dog attack

http://www.castanet.net/news/West-Ke...ter-dog-attack

Mom Tamie Williams says the pitbull was laying on the couch before it lunged at her son, mauling him in the face and piercing his cheek and throat.

grasping at straws now are we. Lions are not domesticated animals not to mention they are 500 + pounds full grown. Your limited comprehension is sad :(

People go camping in the woods and get killed by bears. Most people don't say "we need to kill ALL bears". People swim in the ocean and get killed by sharks. People don't say "Kill all sharks". More people in the US are killed by BEES than dogs. Let's kill all bees. And if you really want to look at it it white males between ages 18-40 kill more humans than all the animals combined and then some.

Yes yes the fact you provide INDIVIDUAL accounts how this is LIMITED in scope.

No I am just a responsible educated dog owner, you seem to be the one with a closed mind.

more white trash pit bull owners chime in.

Dick, I was referring to the statement that if someone has never encountered an 'insert_noun_here' they are wrong in whatever opinion they have.

Don't forget to 'breath' :thumbsup

Bears should be kept as pets then? Or are they too dangerous?

As for the bees comparison, how many deaths, and how many bees? Same with dogs, since you have these stats at hand, and I'm too lazy to go look.

Humans killed by dogs in US in 2010 - 34
Humans killed by other humans in US 2010 - 17,000

Now consider there are 78 million dogs and 310 million humans in the US.

# of deaths compared to number of dogs. 1 dog related death per 2.3 million dogs.
# of deaths compared to number of humans. 1 human related death per 18,000 humans.

a child is 500X more likely to be killed by another human than a dog.

78 million dogs in the US and 34 deaths in 2010.

lets help the factually challenged, out of work, inbread.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ported_in_2011

lists 8 deaths in 2011 so far.

1 by breed: cane corso
2 by breed: rottweiler
5 by breed: pit bull

for 2010:

out of 34 deaths by dog, 23 were by pitbull
so 67% of all deaths by dog in '10 are from one breed. The pit bull.

oK let not forget many people call a dog a "pit bull" when it's not.

Estimated 9 million pit bulls in the US. Maybe 25 deaths from pit bulls a year. So 1 out of every 360,000 pit bulls actually kill. About 1 out of every 36,000 Americans commit murder.

So how many bees?

ps Last I checked, it wasn't legal to keep humans as pets either.

Pit bull is not actually abreed. An d as I said just because soeon calls a dog a pit bull doesn't mean it is. People are retarded. Ok so 23 deaths by pit bull in 2010. 17,000 people were murdered by other humans in the US in 2010.

17k murders in the USA in 2010 - got a source?

Ok you're a fucking retard. Now STFU already. Ok so let get rid of all pit bulls. We save a whopping 24 lives a year. Then what?

So far in the USA there's be 19 deaths by lightning strike for 2011. http://www.weather.gov/om/lightning/fatalities.htm

The odds of being killed by a lightning strike are almost 4 times that of being killed by a Pittbull.

Now, of course one has nothing to do with the other and we obviously can't ban lightning but it certainly demonstrates the rarity of what we're actually talking about here.

old child's life isn't worth the lives of a billion pitbulls.

riiiiiiight, now a pit bull isn't a pit bull.

if you want to talk about muders, go find another thread. We're talking about dangerous dogs in this one.

The silver lining of all the pittbull deaths were that a lot of them listed "killed by family's dog"

lol then 24 lives a year are saved, you thick cunt. Or is 24 lives a year lost ok? Actually, what *is* the number of deaths that is acceptable from having one of these as a pet? Higher than 24 I guess; 50? 100?

You don't seem to to care about the number of kids killed by GUNS which is MUCH higher than those killed by pit bulls. If I said ban guns you'd go ape shit. What you don't care about kids? Isn't banning something good if it saves just one child's life?

Yes and how many of those are actually responsible for all those deaths. or are most of them killed by something resembling a "pit bull"

I'd go apeshit? Really? I love people who can do my thinking for me - got any more examples of what I would say if you said something else? The more unrelated the better :thumbsup

Because I'm not mentioning the fact that humans kill other humans, by guns or other methods, in a thread about dangerous dogs, doesn't mean that one is right and one is wrong.

Just because abc happens, that does not mean xyz should. Retard. Now STFU already. Etc.

you're right.


here's a chart showing how dangerous pit bulls are:
http://www.dogsbite.org/bite-study-deaths-maimings.htm

guess what breed leads the group by far in attacks?

Oh, and last I knew, if someone wanted a gun to stop firing, they could make that happen by: not firing it! Who knew? Well, everyone apart from you knew, but well done for missing the entire point of this thread.

Wait, 0.41% of the pitbull population (nice stat move, bringing in all dogs and not just pitbulls btw), compared to 0.005% of the human population? But a child is 500x more likely blahblahbollocksblah

a ban on pitbulls will certainly reduce the incidents of attacks & fatalities.

The question is whether another breed will fill in the void. The answer to that should be obvious, given human nature.

Then dog bans turn into a game of whak-a-mole, as determined people breed a dog 95% like a pitbull, but not enough to be illegal.

At that point, dog bans turn into the obscenity law: so vague nobody knows if they break the law until a court convicts them. "any dog that bites but does not let go" is illegal. "any dog that growls at kids & wont stop" is illegal.

Good luck with that. A better idea is to give the death penalty to any dog owner whose dog mauls another person. problem solved :thumbsup

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup perzactly ...

Thats all well and fine. YOU are a responsible, educated dog owner. Would you say you're the average pitbull owner?

Is the average pitbull owner an expert with raising and training pitbulls?

Or is the average pitbull owner a douchebag who just wants a mean looking dog so he can feel cool?

You have yet to refute a single, simple study that says pitbulls are disportionately responsible for morbitiy rates and medical costs/severity of attacks. THAT does not make me ignorant and naive and uneducated. That suggests YOU are in denial of the facts.

ALL dog owners overestimate how safe their dogs and how they react around other people than their owners.

when it's a poodle it's annoying, but harmless. with a pitbull, it's van be criminal. dare i say murderous.

You idiot!

The pic is of Jane Goodall who is indeed the world's foremost LIVING expert on Champzees, and was NOT "murdered" by chimps and in point of fact is presently on a SPEAKING TOUR in the USA.

"Aug 19 2011
Sausalito, CA: Jane’s Journey Documentary Film Screening
Sep 3 2011
GERMANY: Dr. Goodall’s Autumn Tour of Germany
Sep 9 2011
Budapest, HUNGARY: Dr. Goodall at the Giordano Bruno GlobalShift University
Sep 15 2011
New York, NY: Dr. Goodall Visits the United Nations
Sep 18 2011
Washington, D.C.: Jane Goodall’s Town Hall Meeting: A Conversation on Peace
Sep 22 2011
Los Angeles, CA: Dr. Goodall’s Speech at the Life@50+ AARP Convention
Sep 24 2011
Hollywood, CA: A Conversation with Dr. Jane Goodall Featuring the Presentation of the 2011 Jane Goodall Global Leadership Awards
Oct 1 2011
San Francisco, CA: Dr. Goodall’s Keynote Speech at the WCN Expo
Oct 5 2011
Yakima, WA: A Morning with Jane Goodall
Oct 7 2011
Salem, OR: The Power of Youth is Global: An Evening with Dr. Jane Goodall
Oct 8 2011
Redmond, OR: Dr. Goodall’s Keynote Speech Sponsored by Chimps Incorporated
Oct 21 2011
New Orleans, LA: Roots & Shoots North America Training Summit
Jan 16 2012
New Brunswick, NJ: Making a Difference: An Evening with Dr. Jane Goodall"


How in the FUCK do you remember to BREATHE with such limited intelligence?

http://www.janegoodall.org/

Or are you merely a pathetic Spin Doctor and troll?

What a dumbfuck!

In any case, you should back away from the computer before you endanger yourself, others and the Internet as a whole!

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f3...aine6/Jane.jpg

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q...goodall_04.jpg

That's what my girl Angel is and she's a great dog. My BFF is a dog trainer and we have worked hard on her so IMO she's great. Being a single woman living alone I feel safe having her. I have never seen her act funny around other dogs or people, the only thing she's ever done to harm anyone is hitting guy's in the nuts so when a guy comes into the house I have to tell them "Cover the nuts". I have a can with a few pennys in it so when she's doing something I don't like I shake it and boom she runs and hides. I got luck when I picked her out I asked for the "Bait dog". I love her with all my heart.


She scared of the word Fuck (LMAO) so if I yell fuck she runs and hides.

They took our jobs!

Ban lighting, cars and humans!

Actually, unlike you and your Googling, i was remembering she was killed by chimps. Then i realized i was thinking of the lady who lived with lions that was killed by lions. Then i checked and found that was also thought to be not true.

Hence the edit and removal of that comment well before you posted yours.

I really don't think you are the one to be evaluating anyone's intelligence. Unless you think parading as a woman to sell legal/tax services is somehow genius.

:1orglaugh

In other words, you admit that your "memory", such as it is, was, shall we say "faulty" on not one but TWO matters and you did originally post the two "errors" before figuring out that you had your head up your ass.

Additionally, you have just admitted that you made the original post without having done your homework; you posted complete bullshit.

Excessive drug use or certain venereal diseases can do that to you, so you should perhaps get yourself checked out.

In this equation, you are "X":

http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/a...rmulaNovel.jpg

And any kind of Einstein, you ain't!

I made a reference that was inaccurate and I deleted it. Further, I admitted that it was a simple mistake, hence the deletion.

Not sure how you are able to extrapolate that into some massive web of utter and complete stupidity.

I suppose someone as painfully dumb as you are, has to make a life of pointing such things out and blowing them out of proportion as it would make you feel less dumb than you are, given the total volume of rambling stupidity you bring to this forum.

Still not sure how I feel about being attacked by an angry lunatic pretending to be a woman. I kinda feel bad for you more than I feel defensive about it. Do you wear the dress too? Shoes? Bags to match? A wig? Could you tell us which truck stop do you troll, selling handjobs to truckers so we can avoid that place completely? Much appreciated.

errr...no, because a pit bull terrier is an animal, and animals are not accorded the same moral equivalence as human beings in our civilisation - hope you are aware of that as you gulp down your hamburger.

Actually, as a white male, I sometimes feel uncomfortable sitting alone in a park if kids are around, given this racist myth, and no doubt some parents will view me with suspicion even as they barely notice the unleashed pit bull terrior running arround. So maybe dogs are accorded more respect than the white male after all.

And you are aware that whites still make up 70% of the population aren't you - so, errrrr, they will make up most of the paedophile population (also factor in things like most paedophile crimes are aided by the interent and white people are more likely to be users of the internet etc)?

P.S. Statistically, women are more likely to abuse children than men are.

As an animal lover, I wouldn't like to see pitbulls exterminated, but it should be illegal to breed or sell them. Should people be allowed to keep lions and tigers as pets too, or is that speciest as well?

I'm not saying that everyone should own a pit bull as a matter of fact I don't think the type of person that you are describing should own any animal, as I have said before dogs are not fashion accessories. If you look at dog attacks as a whole the numbers have not changed very much over the years what have changed is the types of dogs doing the attacks relative to what the popular breed is at the time. In the 70's German Shepherds were the prominent dog, in the 80's dobies and rotties were more prominent etc. so you would see a higher number of attacks of those dogs. Banning a specific breed will not prevent dog attacks

I did some google searches to see how many has been killed by DOGS in Norway in newer history and found out that there were TWO (2).

A kid in 1994 (by a Greenland dog - husky type)
A kid in 2002 (by a mix of Schaefer/Husky)

There might be more but I could not find any.

Pitbulls are illegal here - so no fatalities from that (duh....) And the American Staffordshire and the regular bull terriers are proposed to be banned)

Just saying...

OH, and these are on our list of illegal dogs: pitbull, dogo argentino, fila brasileiro og japansk tosu.

Too many songs ft. Pitbull on the radio. They are everywhere.

Oystein, nothing but love, you know that, but do you really think we need to baby proof the world?
I mean they tried that with child proof pill bottles, now the kids are the only ones that can get them open