I don't trust any dog that isn't my own no matter what the breed

You know what they, don't worry about the dog, beware of owner

Thank you for being the voice of reason.

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My dogs are both part pit mixes I got from the pound. One of them has also been attacked by thug's 2 pits at the dog park, who thought it was funny to see his 2 pits go after my smaller dog (and by smaller I mean 65 lbs). Luckily my bigger dog went over and had to regulate. He pulled one down by the neck and held it on the ground just to establish dominance than did that with the other one. I've seen good pits there who had great social manners as well as several other pitts who have bitten or attacked other dogs. In all it comes down to the individual dog and the way it is treated when it is young.

I had another pit lab mix back in the day who was the coolest dog ever. While I don't believe the race of dog should be eliminated, I do think there should be more regulations on owning a pitt as well as licensing and training, as well as mandatory sterilization of adult males. In most states to own less dangerous animals like capuchin monkeys, store bought reptiles, etc you are required a gaming license and/or certification.

According to bite data, rottweilers are close behind pits.:2 cents:

It's all in how they are raised?

The Pits were developed for blood sports: Bull baiting, bear baiting, and later, dog fighting. If you have any knowledge about the breed you can't refute this.

With that said you cannot train INSTINCT or GENETICS out of a dog.

Facts are facts, statistics or not. There is much too much information to back up the fact that they are more dangerous and have brutally attacked more times than other breeds. It doesn't matter what site you are reading.

white trash and ghetto gangsters love these dogs usually because they are involved in some kind of criminal enterprise or fucked over people so much they need a dangerous dog to protect them from retribution.

so yeah, maybe the owners have something to do with how they act.

still i doubt the dalai lama feels the need to have a pit bull.

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Every now and again you get a good one in.

The American pit bull terrier is the product of interbreeding between terriers and a breed of bulldogs to produce a dog that combined the gameness of the terrier with the strength and athleticism of the bulldog. These dogs were initially bred in England, Ireland, and Scotland, and arrived in the United States with immigrants from these countries. In the United States, these dogs were used as catch dogs for semi-wild cattle and hogs, to hunt, to drive livestock, and as family companions. Some have been selectively bred for their fighting prowess..

Maybe stop talking out of your ass?

Dalai Lama? Dude, you should get out of the house and see what the real world is like, because you have a really bad perception right now.

Maybe stop being an ass?

From the pitbull rescue - link
"it?s unfortunate that one of the original purposes of the pit bull was dog fighting, but it is a fact that cannot be denied or ignored. Even more unfortunate is the fact that they are still chosen for this purpose, even though it is illegal in all fifty states ..."

from Pit bulls on the web - link
"Pit Bulls have been selectively bred to fight for more than a century. If they will not fight, they are eliminated from the gene pool. "

So only white trash own pit bulls, lol? What sheltered lives some people live. I'm hearing a lot about something someone READ or HEARD but very little about being around those supposedly crazed killers known as pitt bulls.

I see several pitt bulls about once a month. They don't know me and are largely ignored by a dumbass relative of mine. Every time I come over I go back where these 'dangerous killers' are and talk to them and pet them. Two are very shy and have to be coaxed over to me. The third waits until she is sure I'm going where she is and then launches herself at me and loves on me as long as I will stand there.

Since they get little attention their 'killer genes' should make them rip out my throat, I suppose, but as usual reality doesn't match up with the misconceptions of those who don't bother finding out what life is really about. I've been around every dog you can think of, pitt bulls act no different as a species than any other dog.

It's irresponsible owners who are the problem. Big dogs who could be aggressive should be kept away from people.....in the city anyway......no matter if they are German Shepards, pitt bulls or Dobermans, what have you. Mind you, I've never had a problem with any dog but one in my life and it was easily dealt with. Just use common sense.

Hey, guess what? Dogs are potentially dangerous but you know what is more dangerous? People who don't know anything about dogs, don't know how to handle dogs, read dog behavior or more importantly know how to make big dogs back the fuck off.

And because they can't handle the real world these people want to kill what they are afraid of. Sad. What is ironic is these seem to be the same people who are PETA lovers and think little fish in some mountain stream should have the same rights as people.

I'd rather get rid of stupid people than pitt bulls. Pitt bull dogs at least have some use. They're good pets. Affectionate and friendly.

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I say we shoot all chuchuwawa in the head for having a fucking weird ass name

http://pitbullattacks.org/ very eye opening site. puts it in perspective.

http://www.dogsbite.org/victim-realities-funds.htm feel free to donate to victims. i have.

Shit, you can find any slant you want on the net, Who The Fuck do you think you are preaching too anyways, http://www.pbrc.net/breeding.html

It is estimated that up to 200 Pit Bulls are killed EVERY DAY in Los Angeles County, CA, shelters alone because there are not enough homes for them. Imagine the number across the entire United States...

Many people have no idea how desperate the situation is for millions of homeless companion animals, especially pit bulls. These dogs have more against them than any other breed. They are regularly maligned by the media, feared and misunderstood by the public, too often owned by abusive or irresponsible individuals, innocent victims of kill policies in shelters, and the target of breed specific legislation and breed bans.

Every year over 20 million animals end up homeless. Over 15 million of them are killed (euthanized is the nice term) in dog shelters. Roughly 30% of impounded pets are reclaimed, adopted or rescued. The remaining 70% are destroyed. Many more die from disease, starvation, animal attacks and cars! Anyone who sees these statistics must agree that not neutering an animal is irresponsible!

For homeless pit bulls the death sentence is almost always automatic.

I have something very intelligent to say to those that think Pit Bulls are dangerous and should be outlawed

Ignorance is more dangerous

Love you too bud - but, this is not about ignorance from the opponents of PitBulls. I see there is a lot of emotions attached to the breed, but the emotions goes both ways. It is a breed that is bred to FIGHT. Why do we need such a breed if not for just that, to fight?

My suggestion is NOT to kill all the pitbulls in the world, but to spay and neuter them so that they slowly "go away". Not to kill your current "pet".

I know this will be controversial, but this is my true feelings about this subject and breed.

IF it was so that all pitbulls were bred the "right way" - only breed the mild mannered ones, well, then the breed would maybe move into not being "fighting dogs" anymore. Now that would be something! But unfortunately that is as real as utopia.

My girlfriends blue nose pitbull is one of the nicest dogs I've ever met. He thinks he's smaller than he is and is always trying to sit on your lap and cuddle. My german shepherd is much more aggressive.

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The breed was not bred to fight, only a select few of the breed were.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pit_bull
I favor pits because of they're bad rep. Knowing how you people feel about them and then looking at they're cute little faces touches my heart. I rescue them as pups from a spot in my neighborhood where I know these puppy mill guys sell them. Before the 80's it was the German Shepard that was the monster dog. The pit bull was considered a family dog back then. Along comes the media, and bam... they're considered monsters, and the assholes run out to own a monster to seem cool and dangerous and end up really turning their pit into a monster... further fueling the media and people who just want to have a complaint.

If you don't know anything about these animals from personal experience, then you can't understand why some of us gasp at the thought of people wanting to wipe them off the planet. That's such an evil thought for an animal that really just wants to be your best friend and a member of your family. Like others said, if you get rid of pits then a more dangerous breed will take it's place as a dog fighters choice, trust.

301 dog racists...

I agree with you on the fact of what they were originally bred for, and with that said you must also know that they were bred to be compliant with people so that they would not attack the referee during a dog fight. Any dog that attacked a ref was usually destroyed.

At one time I may have agreed with you about training instinct or genetic traits out of a dog but I have seen first hand in more than one occasion that it can be done, I don't believe that it can be done with every dog but you have to look at each dog as an individual and not at the breed as a whole. I know that pits typically have a strong prey drive, mine with proper socialization and training won't even chase small animals like squirrels, birds etc. if anything he is curious as to what they are but never chases them.

You have to understand they are extremely intelligent animals mine even knows the names of my friends, if a bunch of us are sitting around and I tell him to go over and see "insert name" he will go over to see that person. He never ceases to amaze me with what he can learn and things that he picks up on his own.

she actually is not the exception she is more like the rule, I don't personally know any pit that is agressive towards people and 90% of the ones I do know are extremely affectionate and just want to cuddle. I find it funny actually especially with the bad rap that they have. It just goes to show you what a little misinformation can do to those people that just can't think for themselves.

the worst part about pit bulls is that their owners are never smart enough to treat them like the dangerous animal they are. (as evidenced by the number of child deaths associated with pit bulls as opposed to other breeds)
They spend all day convincing those around them how safe their dog is and then it mauls an unsuspecting face and the idiot dog owner says,"Gee, I'm sorry. its never done that before"

Bingo!

We all know there ARE responsible owners as well as breeders. The problem is with all the others, and there are tons of those. :Oh crap

Bingo, rampant breeding by "Backyard Breeders", incestuous breeding has caused huge problems in many breeds. It happened to Dobermans in the 70's, Same with German Shepherds, hence bad temperaments and Hips Dysplasia. And even the Dalmation (thanks to the disney movie) suffered from temperament issues.

people are the problem. why are so many pit owners macho asshats with tattoos and ed hardy shirts?

Mild manner dogs? Part of all dogs jobs is about security and protection. Even a toy poodle will alert you to someone in your house.

And have you ever been around a Pit Bull thats not been trained to be agressive? I have one running around the house. Worse thing he's done was drool on a house guest.

The breed is a mold, they can be shaped into any kind of pet you need.

yeah "the media" is the problem. they just randomly picked out some breed to demonize.

another day another half dozen pit bull horror stories the media just made up for some reason http://www.timesunion.com/local/arti...rs-2139318.php

there is obviously something "off" about the pit bull breed. no matter how socialized and trained for some reason they randomly attack. that is why people are concerned and vote ban in their communities.

"gee i'm sorry he's such a great dog usually" doesn't bring a kids face back.

To clarify, your contention is that if any pitbull attacks a child and severely maims or kills them, its because the dog has been "trained to be aggressive"? Any stats on that? Or are you just making that up up out of desperation? Animals aren't just animals and prone to animal like behavior on occasion, I guess.

Why can't you admit that sometimes they flip out and attack with lethal results?

Practically each time the owner is saying "oh my god, i don't understand why he did that, he's such a kind and gentle dog, he's just wonderful with the kids..."

Sometimes kids get killed by stray bullets
Sometimes kids get killed by drunk drivers
Sometimes kids get killed by pitbulls

No sense in denying the obvious as the foundation for your viewpoint. That can't possibly help you change opinions.
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why ban pitbulls as long as you dont ban weapons?

Sometimes postal workers flip out, thats why they call it going postal, you going to ban them as well?



Any dog has the capability of flipping out, if you had every raised a dog over 50lbs, you would know that, but your parents only let you play with gerbils and they wondered why they smelled bad?


Most aggressive dog I ever owned was a German Shepard, they were breed down in size and for aggression to be a guard dog, is that breed next? Get a fucking clue

because if you shoot someone, you go to jail. If your pit bull bites someone, you get to say you're sorry.

Ven, you can spin any tale you want, talk about "any dog" but the stats don't back up ANY of your claims.

nah, if your kid finds your loaded weapon and accidently kills himself or some other child probably no one goes to prison. just like when a kid pulls on a pitbulls tail and the dog bites in return.

but if you shoot someone on purpose you go to jail - just like when you train your dog to kill.

i am no big friend of pitbulls and similar races, even though i know one very sweet one which i doubt wouldn't ever harm anyone.

but i also think it's a hypocritical discussion

We all know that just as in humans, who we are also comes from how we were brought up (ie. Our family, our environment, our social structure, etc. as you said), BUT those STRONG temperamental characteristics that we have, they come from our genes they are inherited from our parents and relatives.

Again, I stress the fact that much of a dog's temperament relates to it's breed history and genetic inheritance.

So we will just have to agree to disagree on being able to breed genetics out of a dog.

I congratulate you on being a responsible Pit bull owner, unlike a lot of shitheads on here not being open as far as their other traits go.

Thats just it, destroy a breed because of stats? You have a better chance of being incorrectly diagnosed by a doctor causing death than being attacked by a pit bull, so lets do something about that!

I love Pit Bulls

you find it hypocritical because you don't like guns.
Its a different culture. Its why we're the US and you're the, uh...........whatever name your country is going by this decade.:winkwink: