Say goodbye to the human race. That is one nasty breed of animal that harms a lot more than any one breed of dog.

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Wow, I can't remember the last time I saw a Dalmatian and while I do recall seeing a cocker a couple weeks ago, I would have a hard time putting it at the top of the list of most popular dog breeds.

Have a reliance for that?

My friend has 3 pits and they are nicer then my small dog. It's the owners that need to die not the dogs.

Im sure you know how to reach him so why not pass the message? Or are you ok with having a program in your Sig who isn't paying?

You're a dipshit, retard etc because you came in to this thread with stats. more pit bulls are involved with killings. See that's your problem, you know why more people die from .22 guns? There are more of them.
Just like pit bulls, the reason there are more pit bull attacks is more of them are trained to be that way. But you're too much of a fucking idiot, moron, dip shit to see that, you only have your numbers and your selective as to what numbers you use.

Quit being a moron and realize that when people are going to train a dog to be an attack dog , they are gong to pick the one that everyones afraid of, would you pick a chow to be a guard dog? No, even though they make a great guard dog.

For someone that spells low with out the W, you're pretty bright for a moron

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another day, another attack.

http://www.taftmidwaydriller.com/hig...ll-on-A-Street

It all started just before 2 p.m. when Animal Control Officer Tracy Bryan was dispatched to a report of a vicious dog on the 600 block on A Street.

Lt. Ed Whiting said Bryan found the large pit bull attacking a a dog being walked by its owner.

Fearing the dog was going to get loose just across the street from Parkview School with children about to be let out, one of the officers shot and killed the dog, Whiting said.

I think pitbulls should be allowed to drink and drive on roads with no speed limits whilst using an iMac and playing with their foreskins.

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Out of you and me, guess who mentioned stats, and who didn't?

You forgot the important part about these fun, kind, gentle and peace loving animals who are great with children:

It was the third time law enforcement officers have shot and killed pit bulls in the area in recent weeks.

In June, a Kern County Sheriff's deputy shot and killed a pit bull that attacked him and last week another deputy shot and killed a pit bull that had a family trapped in a car in Derby Acres, then turned on the deputy.

Earlier in the day off-duty Taft Police officer Veronica Sandoval shot and killed a pit bull in the yard of her Bakersfield home.

A lot like pitbulls, you have lost it, and have started attacking everyone in sight without even knowing why - way to go :)

they are great dogs until they come into contact with the rest of humanity.

But you're denying was I said about .22's People are going to get the best for the job, pits have the record, so they are a psychological edge over other breeds for the same job, people are stupid.
So there are more going to be used, more are going to show up in reports, it's simple numbers. A rot is a much mjore dangerous animal. But you want to kill the ones that are the most popular

As I post this, there is a Pit Bull Terrier sitting at my feet, I will defend him from people that show all the signs of prejudice that judge him solely by the actions of others.

Er... you surely meant "judge him by the actions of other pitbulls"

no, by the others was meant that pit bull owners know that the pit bull can be trained to do anything, they are an awesome breed. Those that train them for guard dogs, know they are worth more because of the stigma placed on them. While they have half the bite power of a Rottweiler. That stigma, though false, makes them better for the job. The pit bull in my house would just bark at you.

100 pink balloons for tragic Ayen

Young classmates of Ayen Chol, who was mauled to death by a pit bull mastiff dog in her Melbourne home last week, will release 100 pink balloons at their childcare centre today in memory of the four-year-old.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/10...#ixzz1WMM9fr4T

another heartbreaking story. i think it's time to stop the madness.

I'm denying what, where? You are a fucking rambling idiot mate.

Yes, especially when we're talking about made up breeds.

Pittbulls and Bull Mastiffs are very different dogs. :2 cents:

So now that we've had all "facts" as indivuals see it based on their very own and quite limited experience with dogs, what do the experts have to say about it?

Now I know that the GFY cowboys always know better than the professionals so it's hard to take the American Humane Society at their word.

Of further note, all of the national dog clubs and even the American Veterinary Medical Association have position statements denouncing the need or wisdom of such knee-jerk breed specific laws.

You will be hard pressed to find ANY Veterinarian anywhere that supports breed ban legistlation. I mean what could they possibly know about dogs? The average Vet probably doesn't see as many dogs in their career, treat as many dog bites or have any more education on the subject in general than your average GFY poster, right?

So on one side you have the knee jerk reactionaries and on the other side you have pretty much ALL of Veterinary science, the Humane Society and 100% of national dog clubs. I wonder which side is more credible?

the american humane association is not exactly an unbiased source.

How about the American Veterinary Medical Association?
How about virtually every Veterninarian practicing today?

I realize that your limitied experience and mastery of Google trumps pretty much everyone with any formal education on the subject of dogs and dog behaviour but for those who are not convinced can you go ahead and explain why again? Thanks in advance.

i will go with what the canadian courts tend to think.

Ms. Cochrane and the Attorney General of Ontario appealed different aspects of the decision to the Court of Appeal for Ontario.[26] In Cochrane v. Ontario (2008 ONCA 718), the Court of Appeal reversed the lower court's ruling:
It agreed with the lower court judge in finding that the “overbreadth” claim failed because the legislature had acted on a “reasonable apprehension of harm.”
It disagreed that the definition of pit bull in the Act was insufficiently precise and restored the original wording of "pit bull terrier" on the basis that, when read in the context of “a more comprehensive definition,” the phrasing “a pit bull terrier” was sufficiently precise.
It reversed the trial court and found that the government's ability to introduce a veterinarian's certificate certifying a dog was a pit bull would constitute proof only if the defendant failed to answer the claim: it was therefore a tactical burden, rather an evidentiary burden.[27]
On June 11, 2009 the Supreme Court of Canada declined to hear further appeal of the case, thereby upholding the Ontario ban on pit bulls.[26

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breed-s...gal_Challenges

even the US marines - god bless the troops - are wise enough to ban them as well.

the Marine Corps[2] has banned "large dog breeds with a predisposition toward aggressive or dangerous behavior,"[2] including pit bull-type dogs (among other breeds) in on-base housing and privatized housing, as have a number of United States Army,[1] U.S. Air Force and Navy installations.

Oh right I see courts are the experts in animals not the people that spend their entire careers working with and caring for. That clearly makes more sense and you're winning me over now.

According to Colorado?s state laws, no municipality may enact a law that is restrictive based on breed alone.

cently 4 BSLs were stopped due to public outcry or cost ineffectiveness in Colorado, Massachusetts and Oklahoma. However, California has recently repealed a ban on BSLs, allowing cities to adopt ordinances banning or restricting certain breeds.

It appears there's some confusion amongst law makers and they don't even all agree on your point. Probably just best to go with the people that interact with animals on a full time basis. Errr wait, that isn't you is it?

OK, I can't really write this any slower for you, I wasn't rambling, you should just put away the pipe when reading what I post

Why can't your produce a single Veterinary source on the subject?

Do you take your dog to the US Marines for check ups?

Seeing a pattern yet?

Kinda like our congress, they have very little degrees in economics, but will control our economy.

Good posts, information is what's needed. Most that are afraid of dogs are going to jump on any bandwagon that comes along.

It's not the dog, PBT's have been around for a long time.

vets are just too biased emotionally to make a clear decision about the matter. like pit bull owners themselves.

i put my trust in the the clear headed objective rationality of the law.

Personally I don't care to argue about it because it doesn't really matter to me. I don't have pittbulls. I do have one 10 year old Rottweiler left, who is currently waiting for my mom's yellow lab to drop the bone he stole from him so he can have it back (instead of just savaging him and taking it) in the backyard. Yes Rottweilers tend to make the same breed ban lists and it's a shame.

Ultimately BSL doesn't work, period.

Pit bulls are different; they’re like wild animals,” says Alan Beck, director for the Center for the Human Animal Bond School of Veterinary Medicine, West Lafayette, IN.

All the professionals are wrong, only judges (and only the ones that agree with you) are right. Some lawmakers (again the ones that you agree with and by far the minority) are also right. All Veterninarians are just emotional people that can't think straight.

I'm going to take this as you admitting defeat. That's really what it looks like. Thank you for making my point.

Anyway I've done what I intented to do and pointed out the opinions of the vast majority of medical professionals.

I quite literally don't have a dog in this fight as I don't want a pitbull because the breed doesn't appeal to me. You guys can go ahead and argue until the end of time on the matter.

So we trust this one Vet even if he's clearly in the minority? He's the one non-emotional authority on the subject?

Surely you're just trolling. You win this round good sir.

Sorry, but I may have to back hand this vet if I ever see him. Try to ask any other vet what they think, A real vet, not some joke who makes public statements.

you can't even spell.

dismissed.

really? are you serious?

You clearly put your trust in the wrong place then. Doesn't being so stupid hurt? What I love is that reading your posts only reinforces the fact that my dog (pit bull) is smarter than you are

take the blinders off buddy, it seems that everyone that doesn't share your opinion is biased or wrong.

Here are a few facts about the breed from the United Kennel Club website
http://www.ukcdogs.com/WebSite.nsf/B...dNovember12008
APBTs make excellent family companions and have always been noted for their love of children. The APBT is not the best choice for a guard dog since they are extremely friendly, even with strangers. Aggressive behavior toward humans is uncharacteristic of the breed and highly undesirable.

is the UKC biased in some way as well?