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porno jew 08-24-2011 09:28 AM

pit bull owners don't kill people. the pit bulls do. :2 cents:

CyberHustler 08-24-2011 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18377175)
pit bull owners don't kill people. the pit bulls do. :2 cents:

Have you ever owned a pit bull?

porno jew 08-24-2011 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Dedi (Post 18377181)
Have you ever owned a pit bull?

no. don't have a rocket launcher either.

porno jew 08-24-2011 09:35 AM

you guys talk about other dogs ok. lets check out google news for "Alaskan Malamute."

no maimings ... no children killed .... just

"Four paws up for Woofstock

The Skonesey family from Mokena decided to take its dog, Ace, a 3-year-old Alaskan Malamute, to Woofstock at the last minute.

“When we saw the ad in the paper today we’re like, ‘Let’s go!’ ” Michelle Skonesey said. “As a family we try to do stuff on Sundays. It’s a family day.”

Ace, who is trained in weight pulling and sledding, carried two of Skonesey’s daughters on a large black cart that was decorated with handmade “Woodstock 2011” signs and sparkly garland. Ace won the Most Accessorized contest."

trevesty 08-24-2011 09:40 AM

I'm personally a big supporter of the GSD(properly bred and from good lines)... however, I'm also very anti ignorance, so...


You understand that APBT and others that are "real" pit bulls(some breeders throw other shit in there for aggression and call them pits) actually have an incredibly good temperament, especially around children... correct? Up until the middle part of the 20th century, they were considered THE family dog to own. They were only aggressive towards other animals. However... they've always had a bad case of separation anxiety(because their love for humans is so strong).. so, putting them in isolation the first year of their lives will create an incredibly mean dog.

Ignorance is one thing.. ignorance with an emotional, knee-jerk reaction is even worse.

Also.. the GSD, Rott, Belgian Malinois, and Mastiff have WAY stronger bites/jaws than a pit.. pits don't have "lock jaw".. I promise you if my GSD got a hold of you, you'd have a lot more damage than if any pit did. The pit only has something like 230lbs psi of pressure on their bite... Rotts and Mastiffs are 400+.. GSD is about 290+ and BM is about 260+.

Learn some facts before you go on a crusade.

trevesty 08-24-2011 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18377198)
you guys talk about other dogs ok. lets check out google news for "Alaskan Malamute."

no maimings ... no children killed .... just

"Four paws up for Woofstock

The Skonesey family from Mokena decided to take its dog, Ace, a 3-year-old Alaskan Malamute, to Woofstock at the last minute.

?When we saw the ad in the paper today we?re like, ?Let?s go!? ? Michelle Skonesey said. ?As a family we try to do stuff on Sundays. It?s a family day.?

Ace, who is trained in weight pulling and sledding, carried two of Skonesey?s daughters on a large black cart that was decorated with handmade ?Woodstock 2011? signs and sparkly garland. Ace won the Most Accessorized contest."

Just because the media doesn't create a bunch of hype around the dog doesn't mean it doesn't happen. 20 years ago it was the Rott/Doberman, before that the GSD... etc., etc.


On an unrelated note, a friend has a Malamute/Timberwolf hybrid and that thing is a beast. He's a K9 officer and has 2 GSD's plus this dog.. they're all super good with his kids.. too good.. nobody can get close to them except him and other kids. :1orglaugh

trevesty 08-24-2011 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 18375123)
that's a lot of deaths... the argument isn't whether they kill people or not, it is if they are dangerous or not...


My opinion has changed in recent times some what. I believed they should be disposed of for a long time, but a breeder i know made a very good point that changed my view a bit. If you outlaw them out right, to the last dog or variation that wont stop the problem. These morons who want 'fighting dogs' will just selectively choose more aggressive labs or more aggressive rotwilers or whatever they want instead.

Breeders, the real ones, use temperament as part of the selection when they choose them for breeding stock. If they get a dog in their litter that is uncontrollably snappy, aggressive or otherwise unsafe THEY DON'T BREED IT. With pitbulls they do the exact opposite. So everyone coming on here talking about owners raising them wrong, that is only a fraction of the problem. If they started taking responsibility with their breeding practices nobody would ever be on about getting rid of those dogs.

Why anyone would want a fighting dog is truly beyond me, there are so many dogs out there with amazing characteristics and abilities--even dogs that do a better job of protection!

Well said.

And pits are not very good for protection. GSD, Rott, BM, Dobie, and certain types of Mastiffs are much more suited for the job.

SmokeyTheBear 08-24-2011 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18377198)
you guys talk about other dogs ok. lets check out google news for "Alaskan Malamute."

no maimings ... no children killed .... just

Pit bulls were responsible for 66 mauling deaths of humans between 1979 and 1998 (fatal dog attacks that involved at least one pit bull according), but Rottweilers were recorded for 37 mauling deaths mostly during the 1990s. German shepherds followed with 17, Siberian Huskies at 15, Alaskan Malamutes at 12, and Doberman pinschers with nine

porno jew 08-24-2011 09:57 AM

those numbers have to be way off. there were multiple pit bull maulings in the last week.

Vendzilla 08-24-2011 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18377254)
those numbers have to be way off. there were multiple pit bull maulings in the last week.

Wow, you're funny, you say the numbers are off by siting mauling when the numbers Smokey posted reflect deaths. Have trouble with math a lot?

SmokeyTheBear 08-24-2011 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18377254)
those numbers have to be way off. there were multiple pit bull maulings in the last week.

that was between 1979 - 1998

either way for the last 3 decades malamutes have been in the top 5 most dangerous breeds by order of fatalities.. several children killed , some attacked even after death

porno jew 08-24-2011 10:15 AM

we can start a thread for malamutes as well. this thread is about pit bulls. simple pet or the animal equivalent of a dirty bomb?

Vendzilla 08-24-2011 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18377297)
we can start a thread for malamutes as well. this thread is about pit bulls. simple pet or the animal equivalent of a dirty bomb?

Do you jump when the shadows move?

I think you should deal with your cynophobia some place other than GFY!

SmokeyTheBear 08-24-2011 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18377297)
we can start a thread for malamutes as well. this thread is about pit bulls. simple pet or the animal equivalent of a dirty bomb?

silly question, there are countless things more dangerous.. dogs are dogs, they do what they do.. people should treat them for what they are.

Bicycles aren't inherently dangerous , it is what you do with them and how you use them... just like everything else..

despite the hundreds maybe thousands of deaths on bicycles, your average "ban pitbulls" moron would still climb on a bicycle without a care in the world..

All dogs have the capability of killing someone, period end of story. Treat and train yours safely and you won't have a problem. Treat every dog that you don't know as dangerous.

rip raster 08-24-2011 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18377198)
you guys talk about other dogs ok. lets check out google news for "Alaskan Malamute."

no maimings ... no children killed .... just

"Four paws up for Woofstock

The Skonesey family from Mokena decided to take its dog, Ace, a 3-year-old Alaskan Malamute, to Woofstock at the last minute.

?When we saw the ad in the paper today we?re like, ?Let?s go!? ? Michelle Skonesey said. ?As a family we try to do stuff on Sundays. It?s a family day.?

Ace, who is trained in weight pulling and sledding, carried two of Skonesey?s daughters on a large black cart that was decorated with handmade ?Woodstock 2011? signs and sparkly garland. Ace won the Most Accessorized contest."

dude you are an idiot!! an Alaskan Malamute attacked my pit bull and after I split them up it attacked me. My pit bull lay down like I told him to and stayed put until I had the other dog submitted, he has never been the aggressor in any fights and shies away from them when possible. It is all in the training/handling of the dogs, that goes for any dog. A properly socialized and trained pit bull can be the best dog in the world. On the other hand they could also be a huge menace in the wrong hands as well, much like many other things in the wrong hands.

rip raster 08-24-2011 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18377254)
those numbers have to be way off. there were multiple pit bull maulings in the last week.

there have actually been quiute a few other dog breeds that have attacked my dog and he hasn't killed any of them and for the most part tries to get away if he can, maybe you can explain that to me?

LadyMischief 08-24-2011 10:57 AM

More people are actually attacked by small dogs, they are just not as reported, because people tend to put their faces near to little dogs, and children tend to be around them more. Just because a few dogs of a breed are bad, doesn't mean the breed is bad. The same fear and stereotypes used to surround German Shepherds, and where is that now?

It's always a matter of training and discipline with dogs. Most of the time people don't even know when they are being "threatening" to a dog in dogspeak.

GatorB 08-24-2011 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Dedi (Post 18377160)
[COLOR="Lime"]Similar, yes. Except if you leave a gun in the yard unattended for years it will just stay there and rust instead of turning into an angry biting machine waiting for it's opportunity to escape and take it's frustration out on a jew.

If you leave a gun in your yard someone will find it and pick it up. Perhaps a child. And I'm not sure where your jew crack is coming from. You're racist.

GatorB 08-24-2011 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18377191)
no. don't have a rocket launcher either.

yes

dog=rocket launcher :disgust

porno jew 08-24-2011 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 18377308)
Do you jump when the shadows move?

I think you should deal with your cynophobia some place other than GFY!

aye aye sub captain!

RebelR 08-24-2011 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by rip raster (Post 18377356)
dude you are an idiot!! an Alaskan Malamute attacked my pit bull and after I split them up it attacked me. My pit bull lay down like I told him to and stayed put until I had the other dog submitted, he has never been the aggressor in any fights and shies away from them when possible. It is all in the training/handling of the dogs, that goes for any dog. A properly socialized and trained pit bull can be the best dog in the world. On the other hand they could also be a huge menace in the wrong hands as well, much like many other things in the wrong hands.

I would argue that you are one of the more responsible owners out there, Unfortunately pit-bulls play into a specific lifestyle image. Usually some urban asshole who likes to walk his dog down the street on tow chains, looking gangsta, because he saw it on MTV. Its those assholes who give the dog its negative image. I think they are among the more dangerous breeds out there, along with the Rotti, German Sheppard, Cane Corso, and Dobermann Pincer. I had a Doberman that we did aggression, obedience and Search and Rescue training with. He was a fantastic and loving dog, great with kids, small animals yadda yadda and was still intact. But we were always vigilant not to have him in a situation where something could have happened. If I said "Leave it" the dog would disregard whatever he perceived as being of interest, end of story. That's where most dog owners fail, regardless of breed. Little training, and little regard not to put their dog in a situation where shit could go wrong.

The moral of this thread is that these dogs aren't for everyone. And breeders (reputable ones) should be held responsible for the actions of the assholes they sell to)

porno jew 08-24-2011 11:16 AM

most dog owners have what is know as "dog owner bias." they are unable to see their dog's behavior objectively. they are usually quoted in the news saying stuff like "he's such a good dog" or "that was very out of character" after their pet kills granny.

shade001 08-24-2011 11:18 AM

The dogs aren't the problem. It's the pussy ass people walking around these days. When I was growing up there were plenty of mean ass dogs that would eat you a new one, you just didn't go near their yard. If one got out and bit someone you shot the fucking thing and that was the end of it.

Now all these pussy liberals are afraid of dogs. Good. I have a mean dog that WILL bite your ass, stay the fuck off my property and you won't have any reason to cry.

Btw, a pit bull bit me once. I punched the side of his head a couple of times and he went off and hid under the porch. Hurt my hand though something fierce.

CyberHustler 08-24-2011 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 18377459)
If you leave a gun in your yard someone will find it and pick it up. Perhaps a child. And I'm not sure where your jew crack is coming from. You're racist.

I'm not racist it was a joke @ porno jew.

And I don't have a yard, but since you can't understand what I said... basically a gun wont do shit if you negelct it. A dog will turn wild.

Vendzilla 08-24-2011 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18377476)
aye aye sub captain!

Funny how people of no imagination always fall back to statements with absolutly no substance, not unlike their regular posting offerings

shade001 08-24-2011 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by LadyMischief (Post 18377425)
More people are actually attacked by small dogs, they are just not as reported, because people tend to put their faces near to little dogs, and children tend to be around them more. Just because a few dogs of a breed are bad, doesn't mean the breed is bad. The same fear and stereotypes used to surround German Shepherds, and where is that now?

It's always a matter of training and discipline with dogs. Most of the time people don't even know when they are being "threatening" to a dog in dogspeak.

I had a job delivering to people's houses and I never once had a problem with pitt bulls or any big dog except one nutty German Shepard that was chained up. The little dogs, a lot of them went absolutely bezerk when I got there. Pretty much frothing at the mouth.

Big dogs would bark and then a few seconds later they'd be rubbing against my leg.

I speak dog pretty good, though. Dogs like me.

porno jew 08-24-2011 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 18377508)
Funny how people of no imagination always fall back to statements with absolutly no substance, not unlike their regular posting offerings

i think i made a great case for the outlawing of pit bulls.

shade001 08-24-2011 11:27 AM

Also, I have been around 20-30 pitt bulls in the last five years or so. All of them were sweet dogs except for one. That's the only dog that ever attacked me in my life.

I can't say the same for poodles. Let's outlaw poodles.

GatorB 08-24-2011 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Dedi (Post 18377504)
I'm not racist it was a joke @ porno jew.

And I don't have a yard, but since you can't understand what I said... basically a gun wont do shit if you negelct it. A dog will turn wild.

Any animal will turn wild if left alone. what is the point? are you going to tell me fire is hot and water is wet now?

GatorB 08-24-2011 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18377513)
i think i made a great case for the outlawing of pit bulls.

I think you made a case for outlawing you from posting on the internet.

Vendzilla 08-24-2011 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18377513)
i think i made a great case for the outlawing of pit bulls.

I have one in my house.

So thinking that you're thinking is a mute point.

Outlawing them means killing them, you're an asshole.

Vendzilla 08-24-2011 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18377513)
i think i made a great case for the outlawing of pit bulls.

This is the world you want, so Go Fuck YourSelf

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dallasnovelty 08-24-2011 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 18377634)

That is Hilarious LOL

CyberHustler 08-24-2011 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 18377544)
Any animal will turn wild if left alone. what is the point? are you going to tell me fire is hot and water is wet now?

No, I said...

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Originally Posted by Dedi (Post 18376901)
Ownership of Pit Bulls should be restricted to qualified individuals who will take full responsibility for their dogs actions.

then you said...

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 18377058)
Ok then the same thing with guns too.

then I said...

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Originally Posted by Dedi (Post 18377160)
Similar, yes. Except if you leave a gun in the yard unattended for years it will just stay there and rust instead of turning into an angry biting machine waiting for it's opportunity to escape and take it's frustration out on a jew.

Cesar Millan trains people and rehabilitates dogs...

The you came out with...

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 18377459)
If you leave a gun in your yard someone will find it and pick it up. Perhaps a child. And I'm not sure where your jew crack is coming from. You're racist.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

But yeah, fire is hot though... if you didn't know. Water is wet... and glass is nothing more than hard liquid :2 cents:

Vendzilla 08-24-2011 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dallasnovelty (Post 18377664)
That is Hilarious LOL

I first saw this over 35 years ago when my step dad brought it home. Still love the EPA part of it.

Thing is anyone that wants to get rid of an entire breed based on some attacks are the kind of people that want to see what's in that cartoon. It's complete lunacy.

rip raster 08-24-2011 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18377513)
i think i made a great case for the outlawing of pit bulls.

I have seen you quote a bunch of BS that you read somewhere, nowhere have I seen that you have had any type of negative personal experiences with pit bulls. I have had plenty of negative experiences with other breeds of dog attacking my pit bull and or myself and you don't see me calling for a ban of all poodles, German shepherds etc.

and you never did answer my question of why my pit bull does not kill these other animals when they attack him because as you say all pit bulls are monsters that will rip anything apart if let loose???

try not to create a problem where there is none

bDok 08-24-2011 12:34 PM

I don't say get rid of them. However, I don't trust them for one second unless I personally know the owner and he is around. Then after I've spent some time with the dog do I open up to it. Otherwise I just stay away.

Around me a lot of times I'll see a girl getting walked by her pitt at the beach. I generally move out of the way until they pass. If that dog freaked there is no way she would be able to hold it back. I just play it safe and try to not be around them.

trevesty 08-24-2011 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18377487)
most dog owners have what is know as "dog owner bias." they are unable to see their dog's behavior objectively. they are usually quoted in the news saying stuff like "he's such a good dog" or "that was very out of character" after their pet kills granny.

I'd agree with that, mostly because most people are idiots. It's much like the hood rats saying Jamal is such a good boy after he shot 5 people in a drive-by.

However, a smart person is capable of being objective. For example, I adopted a pit from the local shelter about a year ago and it was an absolutely terrible dog.. took him back within 2 weeks. My GSD is quite the opposite. More well-behaved than I am. :1orglaugh

Vendzilla 08-24-2011 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bDok (Post 18377711)
I don't say get rid of them. However, I don't trust them for one second unless I personally know the owner and he is around. Then after I've spent some time with the dog do I open up to it. Otherwise I just stay away.

Around me a lot of times I'll see a girl getting walked by her pitt at the beach. I generally move out of the way until they pass. If that dog freaked there is no way she would be able to hold it back. I just play it safe and try to not be around them.

Which can be said about any breed.

But let me ask you this, given the idiots that think all Pit Bulls are dangerous, what dog would you get to protect your family? I have one running around our house and I feel safer knowing that if someone looking over our fence thinking they were going to try and break in and saw the pit, they would move on to the next house.

rip raster 08-24-2011 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18377487)
most dog owners have what is know as "dog owner bias." they are unable to see their dog's behavior objectively. they are usually quoted in the news saying stuff like "he's such a good dog" or "that was very out of character" after their pet kills granny.

you really should quit talking out of your ass especially when you have no idea what you are talking about. My pit bull is extremely well behaved and trained. I used to have a black lab that was not, I was the first to admit that he was not. He was super loving to all people and to small dogs but any larger dog he would attack, so when out in public he was always leashed and there were never any problems.


you should try making up some more facts now to try and prove your point it still won't change the truth though


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