Can someone explain to me why you can't spank your child?

[bean-aid]

I'm just at a loss for words when it comes to today. People want to put there child in bed with them and pamper them till they explode.

Parents walking children to the bus stop till they are teens.

You can't really raise your child anymore... actually rules you never agreed to does.

Do you know that schools know make kids keep journals in school? Well maybe not the norm but my daughter is made to along with her class mates.

When I was 10, I had a DS80 motorcycle and I rode that fucker all over my town. I had 1 rule... be back by dinner time. If I wasn't, I had to make up a really good excuse.

Not sure what inspired me to post this but it had something to do with the canuks rioting. WTF... you have things so laid back but still can't handle yourself so you try and riot.

It's not a few bad apples... it is the general mindset of people who have been pampered all there life. I think there is a law in Canada that you can't spank your child... not sure... I know it exists though.

So, tighten up your reigns, grab a set ("of balls"), and stop acting like a pompous prick, know it all.

ya know?

[Anthony]

I don't either. My kids always got the back hand of Dad. It works.

[Agent 488]

don't raise you kid like a stupid ape.

[bean-aid]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

don't raise you kid like a stupid ape.

It would help (you) to have kids and also not be the subject of ridicule during your preteen-teen years

[martinsc]

is that you on your bike?

[Shey]

I was spanked, don't really like it as a main method of disciplining kids but I'm not opposed to it completely. I think some parents get lazy and stop trying to teach their kids how to behave and don't figure out alternative punishments that will leave a lasting effect because spanking is easier.

Then again, this is all theory so far. I'll get back to you in about a year or so. I guess that's when mine will stop being a cute babble of drool and become a walking, talking babble of drool.

[Spunky]

I beat the hooligans with my cane

[DamianJ]

It's lazy. Rather than think of how to teach your child not to do something, you hit it until it learns.

As 488 said, we're humans, not animals.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by beaner

I'm just at a loss for words when it comes to today. People want to put there child in bed with them and pamper them till they explode.

Parents walking children to the bus stop till they are teens.

You can't really raise your child anymore... actually rules you never agreed to does.

Do you know that schools know make kids keep journals in school? Well maybe not the norm but my daughter is made to along with her class mates.

When I was 10, I had a DS80 motorcycle and I rode that fucker all over my town. I had 1 rule... be back by dinner time. If I wasn't, I had to make up a really good excuse.

Not sure what inspired me to post this but it had something to do with the canuks rioting. WTF... you have things so laid back but still can't handle yourself so you try and riot.

It's not a few bad apples... it is the general mindset of people who have been pampered all there life. I think there is a law in Canada that you can't spank your child... not sure... I know it exists though.

So, tighten up your reigns, grab a set ("of balls"), and stop acting like a pompous prick, know it all.

ya know?

you dumb, fake nick. only reason to walk your kids is the molestors snatching them.
what the hell does a journal have to do with *anything* in this post?
a motorcyle...uh yeah ok. that would of been illegal even if you're currently 85, unless you had acres of your own property to drive it on.
and the riots...yeah its just a bunch of stupid kids and "anarchist" types who use these events as an excuse to act like an animal. the average person was not out there. and no, there is no law in canada that says you can't spank your child but like damianj says, spanking your kid is basically putting zero thought into parenting.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by martinsc

is that you on your bike?

caught him on the way to work? damn cops

[PR_Glen]

I go back and forth with this one all the time.

I think it is a lazy way of discipline, but I still understand it, because it can be effective in moderation. The way I see it it is far worse to try and be the nice guy when disciplining your child than it is to spank them, but I still think there are better ways to go about it. If you catch them doing something wrong BE FIRM take a hold of them and look them in the eyes and let them know you are serious about what you are saying, that small form of intimidation is just as effective as hitting them. The problem with striking kids is most of the time they don't even know what they are getting punished for so it accomplishes nothing. When you use firm language and intimidation it lets them know that you are serious and not a pushover.

I feel for parents that just get pushed to the edge, because they can and will test you but I've been on the receiving end of what adults can do to children, and being attacked only made me resentful and turned me into a violent kid in return. It didn't help me with discipline and it took a long while to get that violent streak out of me.

[Wizzo]

I didn't know I couldn't but haven't had to in many years...

[TheLegacy]

My first thought is that adults don't always know their own strength much less spank in anger or frustration. I don't with my two little ones instead I give them time outs and take away privileges so they understand that way and seems to work.

[Vendzilla]

I had a step son for a while and he came to me and told me that he talked to protective services and said I could only spank him on the ass with an open hand.

I had an old coffee table that was 3 inches thick maple wood and hit it with an open hand, a glass popped up in the air and landed without spilling, I looked him in the eye and told him if I did that I would break his fucking leg, he never brought it up again

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by beaner

Can someone explain to me why you can't spank your child?

Says who?


The "Millennials" Are Coming

[mailman]

The pussification of the world has greatly increased over the years though HITTING/SPANKING or anything of that nature I do not agree with.

Why in anyone's right mind would you want to HIT a child let alone your OWN child?

[moeloubani]

Whoever spanks their kid is crazy, you just need to lay out a logical argument as to why the child shouldn't do something, present that argument to the child and let them use their head to figure out the consequences of what they are doing and how it will grow into more of a problem as life goes on. The child will understand.

[u-Bob]

Because nowadays you can just call the cops and they'll come and taze your kids....

[seeandsee]

you can spank you child today as i know... but not to be motherfucker to your child

[PornGreen]

beaner, someone should have spanked you as a child.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by moeloubani

Whoever spanks their kid is crazy, you just need to lay out a logical argument as to why the child shouldn't do something, present that argument to the child and let them use their head to figure out the consequences of what they are doing and how it will grow into more of a problem as life goes on. The child will understand.

LOL. That would be nice.

[Agent 488]

most people who hit their kids seem to be dim-witted apes.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by mailman

The pussification of the world has greatly increased over the years though HITTING/SPANKING or anything of that nature I do not agree with.

Why in anyone's right mind would you want to HIT a child let alone your OWN child?

Because it works. My children don't remember time outs when they think back about punishments, they remember getting their ass spanked. At 16, I have a dual varsity lettered son, and a daughter who's on the honor roll and can get into any college she wants. I don't have to worry about my kids doing stupid shit, because they know there's a reaction to every action. As young adults, their punishments now consist of their license, cells, entertainment etc taking away.

[bronco67]

I don't have kids yet, and I grew up with "old-school" parents -- so my ass was no stranger to a belt. My mom is from West Virginia coal country, so I've also been whipped with a switch a few times.

I've always believed that the current generation of punks comes from the fact that no kid has been spanked since 1990. My thinking has shifted ever since I've been raising my dog for the last few years. If I can get his crazy ass to be good citizen without striking him, it should be possible to get a child to do the same.

I'm not trying to act like I know everything because I have a dog, but I think that once you hit your dog(or child), the relationship is ruined forever, and its all based on fear. I think being a leader and allowing them to love and respect you is a better way to go.

If they get totally out of control, once they leave the house they'll encounter someone who won't take their bullshit -- and get the beating you never gave them.

As one poster already said, I think its a lazy way to discipline.

[_Richard_]

who hits children?

[Sly]

Originally Posted by bronco67

I don't have kids yet, and I grew up with "old-school" parents -- so my ass was no stranger to a belt. My mom is from West Virginia coal country, so I've also been whipped with a switch a few times.

I've always believed that the current generation of punks comes from the fact that no kid has been spanked since 1990. My thinking has shifted ever since I've been raising my dog for the last few years. If I can get his crazy ass to be good citizen without striking him, it should be possible to get a child to do the same.

I'm not trying to act like I know everything because I have a dog, but I think that once you hit your dog(or child), the relationship is ruined forever, and its all based on fear. I think being a leader and allowing them to love and respect you is a better way to go.

If they get totally out of control, once they leave the house they'll encounter someone who won't take their bullshit -- and get the beating you never gave them.

As one poster already said, I think its a lazy way to discipline.

I can already see the marketing companies salivating over Mickey Mouse potty time treats.

[LedZep]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

I had a step son for a while and he came to me and told me that he talked to protective services and said I could only spank him on the ass with an open hand.

I had an old coffee table that was 3 inches thick maple wood and hit it with an open hand, a glass popped up in the air and landed without spilling, I looked him in the eye and told him if I did that I would break his fucking leg, he never brought it up again

Yea you're a real tough guy threatening violence to a kid that is not even yours. No wonder it was only 'for a while'.

[Rochard]

My step father used to whip me with his black leather belt, but only when it was deserved.

Now that I have my own child, no need to spank her. It's easy enough to put the fear of god into a child, and just by raising my voice I can have trembling in fear.

[CaptainHowdy]

I love my children enough to not bringing them into this world ...

[dan@noof]

My kid is only 2, but I don't plan on spanking. The wife and I are trying to learn different methods of guiding her behavior. So far it seems to be working. It might just be her personality, but the "terrible twos" haven't been bad at all.

.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by LedZep

Yea you're a real tough guy threatening violence to a kid that is not even yours. No wonder it was only 'for a while'.

Raised my daughter the same way, guess what, she's a girl that can kick your ass.

I never raised a hand to him shit for brains, WTF are you doing coming in here saying shit like that, Go Fuck Yourself

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by moeloubani

Whoever spanks their kid is crazy, you just need to lay out a logical argument as to why the child shouldn't do something, present that argument to the child and let them use their head to figure out the consequences of what they are doing and how it will grow into more of a problem as life goes on. The child will understand.

When have you ever had a logical argument?

[Gabriel]

Pain Retains.

[Itchy]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

I go back and forth with this one all the time.

I think it is a lazy way of discipline, but I still understand it, because it can be effective in moderation. The way I see it it is far worse to try and be the nice guy when disciplining your child than it is to spank them, but I still think there are better ways to go about it. If you catch them doing something wrong BE FIRM take a hold of them and look them in the eyes and let them know you are serious about what you are saying, that small form of intimidation is just as effective as hitting them. The problem with striking kids is most of the time they don't even know what they are getting punished for so it accomplishes nothing. When you use firm language and intimidation it lets them know that you are serious and not a pushover.

I feel for parents that just get pushed to the edge, because they can and will test you but I've been on the receiving end of what adults can do to children, and being attacked only made me resentful and turned me into a violent kid in return. It didn't help me with discipline and it took a long while to get that violent streak out of me.

That works great till the kids get older
My kids till the age of 10 - 11 knew that when my voice raised it meant i was pissed and they were in shit, but after 10yrs old it was yea right dad raises his voice and that's it they knew they weren't going to get the belt or the back of the hand.

Also the school telling them your parents can't hit you .... doesn't help

[LedZep]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Raised my daughter the same way, guess what, she's a girl that can kick your ass.

Of course, thats the way kids who were abused turn out. Now she's living off the tit of the govt as some kind of GI Joe.

[camperjohn64]

Originally Posted by mailman

The pussification of the world has greatly increased over the years though HITTING/SPANKING or anything of that nature I do not agree with.

Why in anyone's right mind would you want to HIT a child let alone your OWN child?

Do you ever scold your child verbally? That's the same as hitting.

Do you ever say "Bobby STOP that" when he/she does something he shouldn't? That's the same as hitting.

So when scolding or "firm voice" doesn't work, a firm hand does. It's simple.

I will bet you $10 that if you walk into a bank and ask everyone in a FIRM VOICE to give you all the money, you won't get nearly the response as if you walk in with a machine gun and mow down 15 people, then ask the last person standing to give you all the money. Go try it and let me know if I owe you $10 or not.

[epitome]

Where I come from parents didn't have to spank their child. The child only ever had to get the belt once and they learned that when they saw the belt coming off, they butter stop whatever the fuck they're doing. A normal kid only needed the belt once in his life.

It worked and I think its right and OK. It's not that I was beat hard by the belt that one time, it's that it was done in a way that I learned to fear the belt.

Something my Mom did that I hated at the time ... started charging me rent as soon as I got a job. It was a nominal amount, but it taught me that I couldn't just blow all of my money and had to tend to my responsibilities first. I didn't understand it at the time, but now that I am older, it's something I will do with my own kid(s).

I also just remembered that I could pretty much use the car whenever I wanted, but I had to return it with a full tank of gas. She was good at keeping it full, so I just had to replace what I used ... but it was an 86 mercury cougar and that thing ate some gas. It was only like $2 a gallon though ... don't know if I could do the same with my kids these days. I actually agreed with that one at the time because I had a car I could use pretty much whenever she wasn't at work and didn't have the other financial responsibilities that came along with it. She gave me the car on my 17th birthday and then all expenses become mine.

She was a struggling single Mom at the time (struggling more than she ever let me know), as my Dad had left and wasn't paying child support ... so in hindsight I think I was helping her as much as she was helping me.

[epitome]

Originally Posted by LedZep

Of course, thats the way kids who were abused turn out. Now she's living off the tit of the govt as some kind of GI Joe.

I can't stand Vendzilla, but that's a little ridiculous. Do you feel that way about all of the armed forces? If so, I hope they remember that if the time ever comes that you need protecting.

[PornoMonster]

Originally Posted by Itchy

That works great till the kids get older
My kids till the age of 10 - 11 knew that when my voice raised it meant i was pissed and they were in shit, but after 10yrs old it was yea right dad raises his voice and that's it they knew they weren't going to get the belt or the back of the hand.

Also the school telling them your parents can't hit you .... doesn't help

EXACTLY!!!

Keep in mind it is not ALL Children. What works for one, does not work for others.
I have 3 children, one is the model child, with great grades, mows lawns, and so on.
I have one, that for no reason any counsler can explain is just going down the wrong path.

The school thing is getting so stupid. They told my one child you can get straight F's and we will pass you, and guess what, that is EXACTLY what she did. They also told here that even if a Parent has a Stern deep voice, that is a form of verbal abuse, and calls SRS on you.

Once a child gets older, has the school telling them you can not do a thing to them, it gets hard to do anything. The one child, you say time out? She loves time out, she goes to her EMPTY room, and SLEEPS, so she doesn't have to do any chores.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by LedZep

Of course, thats the way kids who were abused turn out. Now she's living off the tit of the govt as some kind of GI Joe.

Now your saying I abused my daughter? Please meet me somewhere and introduce yourself!

What a fucking retard

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by epitome

I can't stand Vendzilla, but that's a little ridiculous. Do you feel that way about all of the armed forces? If so, I hope they remember that if the time ever comes that you need protecting.

Thanx for backing me up, sorry about not feeling all warm a fuzzy about me, LOL

[LedZep]

Originally Posted by epitome

I can't stand Vendzilla, but that's a little ridiculous. Do you feel that way about all of the armed forces? If so, I hope they remember that if the time ever comes that you need protecting.

Well its a fact that people that were abused as children end up either being cops or joining the military to gain a sense of empowerment over their lives that was never there before.

[PornoMonster]

I figured it out,
Let the cops beat them down, throw them to the ground, tase them, and even shoot them. When they do not do what the nice officer says. To bad the Police didn't "FIND" a way to give a time out!

[LedZep]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Now your saying I abused my daughter? Please meet me somewhere and introduce yourself!

What a fucking retard

Seems your answer to everything is violence, eh? You may have spent your life scaring little kids tough guy but your drunk ass doesnt scare me.

[Deej]

Originally Posted by LedZep

Well its a fact that people that were abused as children end up either being cops or joining the military to gain a sense of empowerment over their lives that was never there before.

THis is just as true as its a fact that priests go through their schooling and "preacherhood" just so they can rape little boys...

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by LedZep

Well its a fact that people that were abused as children end up either being cops or joining the military to gain a sense of empowerment over their lives that was never there before.

Originally Posted by LedZep

Seems your answer to everything is violence, eh? You may have spent your life scaring little kids tough guy but your drunk ass doesnt scare me.

You're a fucking moron, I don't want to scare you!


Putting you on ignore, you're not worth my time

[19teenporn]

Originally Posted by beaner

When I was 10, I had a DS80 motorcycle and I rode that fucker all over my town. I had 1 rule... be back by dinner time.

And here you are, posting in a porn forum.....

[Cyndalie]

I take it you haven't heard of the new parenting styles like, and I shit you not, "Democratic parenting".

[Agent 488]

the parents that beat their kids in public are always some type of mongoloid low iq retard.

[SallyRand]

Originally Posted by beaner

I'm just at a loss for words when it comes to today. People want to put there child in bed with them and pamper them till they explode.

Parents walking children to the bus stop till they are teens.

You can't really raise your child anymore... actually rules you never agreed to does.

Do you know that schools know make kids keep journals in school? Well maybe not the norm but my daughter is made to along with her class mates.

When I was 10, I had a DS80 motorcycle and I rode that fucker all over my town. I had 1 rule... be back by dinner time. If I wasn't, I had to make up a really good excuse.

Not sure what inspired me to post this but it had something to do with the canuks rioting. WTF... you have things so laid back but still can't handle yourself so you try and riot.

It's not a few bad apples... it is the general mindset of people who have been pampered all there life. I think there is a law in Canada that you can't spank your child... not sure... I know it exists though.

So, tighten up your reigns, grab a set ("of balls"), and stop acting like a pompous prick, know it all.

ya know?

"Spanking" is physical abuse.

Parents who physically abuse their children should be prosecuted, have parental rights severed and the children placed somewhere so that they can be treated like humans beings instead of punching bags.

Just so you don't freak out, swatting a kid's hand away from a hot stove is not physical abuse.

Beating the kid with a hand, fist or belt is.