Cal/OSHA Moving Closer To New Mandatory Condom Rules - GoFuckYourself.com

Redrob · 05-27-2011, 09:12 PM

5/27/2011

Mark Kernes reports in AVN: "Draft" of rule requiring "barrier protection" in hardcore is floated "for discussion

LOS ANGELES—The California Division of Occupational Safety & Health's Senior Safety Engineer Deborah Gold today released what is described as "a draft provided solely for the purposes of facilitating discussion at the June 7, 2011 meeting" of the Cal/OSHA Subcommittee on Control Measures—but if this is actually the starting point for the discussion, the adult movie and internet industry is already in deep trouble.

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1. Where occupational exposure remains after institution of engineering and work practice controls, the employer shall provide, at no cost to the employee, appropriate personal protective equipment such as, but not limited to, condoms, gloves, and eye protection. Personal protective equipment will be considered 'appropriate' only if it does not permit blood or OPIM—STI to pass through to or reach the employee's work clothes, street clothes, undergarments, skin, eyes, mouth, or other mucous membranes under normal conditions of use and for the duration of time which the protective equipment will be used...

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To take part in that discussion, just set aside Tuesday, June 7 and plan to be at 100 S. Main Street in downtown LA—and be prepared to fight for your livelihood!

GatorB · 05-27-2011, 09:18 PM

Say good-bye to porn production in California. I can't stand condoms in porn. If I watch a scene and see a comdom I click X then go one to another scene.

merina0803 · 05-27-2011, 09:21 PM

wonder if fsc ever did anything 'non-profit' if things would change

Redrob · 05-27-2011, 09:22 PM

Do you really live in the Ukraine and post shit on here?

If not for the FSC and the AVA before it, this industry would be long gone a long time ago in my humble opinion.

merina0803 · 05-27-2011, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Redrob

Do you really live in the Ukraine and post shit on here?

If not for the FSC and the AVA before it, this industry would be long gone a long time ago in my humble opinion.

meh.. i doubt that you fool.

Redrob · 05-27-2011, 09:34 PM

You are right, you are much smarter than I am.

After 37 years, I don't know anything about this business.

I am just a worthless troll trying to gain brownie points and impress people that I really don't know.

My apology for being rude.

You are obviously my superior. I was wrong to question your authority.

merina0803 · 05-27-2011, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Redrob

You are right, you are much smarter than I am.

After 37 years, I don't know anything about this business.

I am just a worthless troll trying to gain brownie points and impress people that I really don't know.

My apology for being rude.

You are obviously my superior. I was wrong to question your authority.

accepted. stop stroking your cock to them and might help

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 05-27-2011, 09:37 PM

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1. Where occupational exposure remains after institution of engineering and work practice controls, the employer shall provide, at no cost to the employee, appropriate personal protective equipment such as, but not limited to, condoms, gloves, and eye protection.

Personal protective equipment will be considered 'appropriate' only if it does not permit blood or OPIM?STI to pass through to or reach the employee's work clothes, street clothes, undergarments, skin, eyes, mouth, or other mucous membranes under normal conditions of use and for the duration of time which the protective equipment will be used...

I'm not trying to split hairs, but does "shall provide" simply mean "make available" at the employer's cost?

It could be interpreted that the employer has to provide the protection, but that the performer may at their own option, weigh their personal decision based upon the available info (test results, etc), and then decide for themselves to use or not use the available protection.

If so, then that is my current practice...no problem.

I really can't believe that they expect performers to wear gloves and goggles (eye protection) when doing scenes.

Taken to its extreme, that means no French kissing without a protective barrier, and no swapping spit...

ADG

L-Pink · 05-27-2011, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

I can't stand condoms in porn. If I watch a scene and see a comdom I click X then go one to another scene.

You got that right

JustDaveXxx · 05-27-2011, 09:51 PM

Its just going to go underground like it was in the 70's and 80's. The big feture companies will comply and people that shoot condom-less porn will secretive where they are shooting and will go underground.

Not worried. People like DWB and people in other states do it every day. Not worried. California have all of 2 people going set to set to enforce this. OSHA and the state of California do not have the money or recourses to enforce this.

And as for the fines to fund this? Everyone who got fined is fighting it. These court fights will take years. OSHA and California will go broke playing this game. Furthermore all shooters will quit pulling permits to shoot, giving California even less money.

We will watch and see.

JustDaveXxx · 05-27-2011, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Redrob

You are right, you are much smarter than I am.

After 37 years, I don't know anything about this business.

I am just a worthless troll trying to gain brownie points and impress people that I really don't know.

My apology for being rude.

You are obviously my superior. I was wrong to question your authority.

Redrob seems to be good people and is no way a troll. I like what he writes and I like how he cares enough about our industry to inform us. I may disagree with Redrob from time to time, but I do have the utmost respect for him and his opinion.

I like when people have a differing opinion than I do. Im "not" always right and im always down to here good reasons why I'm wrong. Thats generally when I lean something new and that is always pretty cool.

Redrob · 05-27-2011, 10:03 PM

JustDaveXXX, were you able to shoot the APHSS meeting on Thursday?

I'd love to see a link to the video if possible.

And, thank you for not calling me a troll.

babymaker · 05-27-2011, 10:12 PM

Porn with googles

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 05-27-2011, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by babymaker

Porn with googles

ADG

babymaker · 05-28-2011, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

ADG

Nice!

MaDalton · 05-28-2011, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Redrob

Do you really live in the Ukraine and post shit on here?

If not for the FSC and the AVA before it, this industry would be long gone a long time ago in my humble opinion.

not to get into a fight with you, but "this industry" is not an american only thing. there's actually multi-million companies outside the US who have not ever heard of FSC or AVA (actually i have never heard of AVA either).

DWB · 05-28-2011, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx

Its just going to go underground like it was in the 70's and 80's. The big feture companies will comply and people that shoot condom-less porn will secretive where they are shooting and will go underground.

Not worried. People like DWB and people in other states do it every day. Not worried. California have all of 2 people going set to set to enforce this. OSHA and the state of California do not have the money or resources to enforce this.

And as for the fines to fund this? Everyone who got fined is fighting it. These court fights will take years. OSHA and California will go broke playing this game. Furthermore all shooters will quit pulling permits to shoot, giving California even less money.

I agree with this 100%. California is in no position to enforce this on a large scale, regardless if they make condoms mandatory or not. Yea, they may hit a few people just to prove a point, but in the grand scheme of things, California is DEAD BROKE and it's not getting any better. Having said that, it also wouldn't surprise me to see them spend money on something stupid like this.

Production with both go underground and move to other states. Simple solution really. Shoot it elsewhere and ship it your office in Van Nuys. Just don't use the US Postal Service to do it.

However, producers will really need to be careful who they work with. All it takes is some porn chick who the police turned because she was caught with meth, and you're raided at your secret location. Same applies to assistants, make-up artists, or any other staff you may have. If you go underground, security will become your number one priority if you want to stay in business.

DWB · 05-28-2011, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Redrob

And, thank you for not calling me a troll.

I'll be the judge of that.

Please check any of the following that applies to you:

[ ] Under 5 feet tall
[ ] Have Pink, blue or yellow hair
[ ] Have a long, pointy nose
[ ] Lives under a bridge or in an empty log

u-Bob · 05-28-2011, 04:52 AM

condoms in porn = big turn off.

InfoGuy · 05-28-2011, 08:19 AM

So if people start spitting on politicians, will they be forced to wear hazmat suits, goggles, masks and gloves due to potential occupational hazards?

Wicked 1 · 05-28-2011, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by InfoGuy

So if people start spitting on politicians, will they be forced to wear hazmat suits, goggles, masks and gloves due to potential occupational hazards?

Where is the former Governor of California when you need him to voice his opinion on the subject of not using condoms when engaging in sex with paid employees ?.

I mean apart from embasassing or potentially life threatening disease,difficult to explain children,public humilation and incredible financial loss what are the risks ?.

Maybe Arnie could be the new spokesperson.

In his new soon to be released home movie The Sperminator.

He declares.

I'll Be BareBack !.

JustDaveXxx · 05-28-2011, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB

I'll be the judge of that.

Please check any of the following that applies to you:

[ ] Under 5 feet tall
[ ] Have Pink, blue or yellow hair
[ ] Have a long, pointy nose
[ ] Lives under a bridge or in an empty log

Porno Dan just texted me, telling me he has a copy of OSHA's proposed condom rules. I will head over to get a copy of this crap and I will post it up.

Rangermoore · 05-28-2011, 09:32 AM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110527/...5ld3NicmVha2M-

Joshua G · 05-28-2011, 10:28 AM

Laws are quickly becoming meaningless in the USA. The laws vary between states, so you can talk on your cell phone in the car, but cross a state line & you get canned. Not to mention how laws outright contradict each other (weed)

the porn laws are such a mess. supposedly there are 5 - 6 states that its illegal to distribute hardcore. So Max Hardcore sits in jail because the feds cherry picked an area to win a conviction. But they couldn't get the same rap on John Stagliano. Silly meaningless laws that are selectively enforced.

given all the other economic obstacles to selling porn. i doubt condoms will cause an exodus out of CA.

JustDaveXxx · 05-28-2011, 03:13 PM

So I just got done watching the soccer gamer with Porno Dan, Jim Powers, and Billy B. Nice game.

Then I dropped Dan off at his studio and got the actual draft that OSHA is going to present on June 7.

All 17 pages of it. And the details of the oral sex exception, which is 2 pages is even crazier!! Need a Dr.on set.

I have to go to a kids party, but I will scan everything in and make a separate thread by Sunday. This is just too funny to keep to myself. Was told to not post it, but people need to know what is really going on before June 7.

Underground here we all go!!!

Redrob · 05-30-2011, 12:30 AM

Holiday Bump.

MaDalton · 05-30-2011, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx

All 17 pages of it. And the details of the oral sex exception, which is 2 pages is even crazier!! Need a Dr.on set.

there's a new business idea - the flying porn doctor

offer instant STD tests on the set for all actors and medical supervision for a flat rate of $500-700 a day

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Redrob Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In a refrigerator box by the tracks. Posts: 4,790	Do you really live in the Ukraine and post shit on here? If not for the FSC and the AVA before it, this industry would be long gone a long time ago in my humble opinion. Last edited by Redrob; 05-27-2011 at 09:25 PM..

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JustDaveXxx I AM JUSTDAVE ! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: LA Posts: 4,111	Its just going to go underground like it was in the 70's and 80's. The big feture companies will comply and people that shoot condom-less porn will secretive where they are shooting and will go underground. Not worried. People like DWB and people in other states do it every day. Not worried. California have all of 2 people going set to set to enforce this. OSHA and the state of California do not have the money or recourses to enforce this. And as for the fines to fund this? Everyone who got fined is fighting it. These court fights will take years. OSHA and California will go broke playing this game. Furthermore all shooters will quit pulling permits to shoot, giving California even less money. We will watch and see. __________________ Smut Peddler Productions.com ICQ #378-696-435 / / Skype: JustDaveXxx "We shoot custom, exclusive content your way"

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GatorB The Demon & 12clicks Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: SallyRand is a FAGGOT Posts: 18,208	Say good-bye to porn production in California. I can't stand condoms in porn. If I watch a scene and see a comdom I click X then go one to another scene.

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merina0803 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 573	wonder if fsc ever did anything 'non-profit' if things would change

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Redrob Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In a refrigerator box by the tracks. Posts: 4,790	You are right, you are much smarter than I am. After 37 years, I don't know anything about this business. I am just a worthless troll trying to gain brownie points and impress people that I really don't know. My apology for being rude. You are obviously my superior. I was wrong to question your authority.

05-27-2011, 10:03 PM	#12
Redrob Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In a refrigerator box by the tracks. Posts: 4,790	JustDaveXXX, were you able to shoot the APHSS meeting on Thursday? I'd love to see a link to the video if possible. And, thank you for not calling me a troll.

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05-28-2011, 10:28 AM	#24
Joshua G dumb libs love censorship Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 8,198	Laws are quickly becoming meaningless in the USA. The laws vary between states, so you can talk on your cell phone in the car, but cross a state line & you get canned. Not to mention how laws outright contradict each other (weed) the porn laws are such a mess. supposedly there are 5 - 6 states that its illegal to distribute hardcore. So Max Hardcore sits in jail because the feds cherry picked an area to win a conviction. But they couldn't get the same rap on John Stagliano. Silly meaningless laws that are selectively enforced. given all the other economic obstacles to selling porn. i doubt condoms will cause an exodus out of CA.

05-28-2011, 03:13 PM	#25
JustDaveXxx I AM JUSTDAVE ! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: LA Posts: 4,111	So I just got done watching the soccer gamer with Porno Dan, Jim Powers, and Billy B. Nice game. Then I dropped Dan off at his studio and got the actual draft that OSHA is going to present on June 7. All 17 pages of it. And the details of the oral sex exception, which is 2 pages is even crazier!! Need a Dr.on set. I have to go to a kids party, but I will scan everything in and make a separate thread by Sunday. This is just too funny to keep to myself. Was told to not post it, but people need to know what is really going on before June 7. Underground here we all go!!! __________________ Smut Peddler Productions.com ICQ #378-696-435 / / Skype: JustDaveXxx "We shoot custom, exclusive content your way"

05-30-2011, 12:30 AM	#26
Redrob Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In a refrigerator box by the tracks. Posts: 4,790	Holiday Bump.