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Old 05-23-2011, 01:25 PM   #51
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ADHD Diet

First, what NOT to eat for TWO WEEKS:

1) NO DAIRY PRODUCTS, especially cow's milk. This is the single most important restriction. Instead try Almond milk, Rice milk, or Better Than Milk. Drink water instead of milk. In fact, drink lots of water. The brain is about 80% water, and increasing your water intake to 7 to 10 glasses per day might be helpful all by itself. Sodas, Gatorade, teas, icees, etc., do not count as water. Water counts as water.

2) NO YELLOW FOODS. Especially Corn or Squash. Bananas are white. Don't eat the peel.

3) NO JUNK FOODS. If it comes in a cellophane wrapper, don't eat it.

4) NO FRUIT JUICES. Too much sugar content. One small glass of apple juice has the sugar content of eight apples. Later on you can have juice, but dilute it with water 50/50.

5) CUT SUGAR INTAKE BY 90%. If you can, cut it down to zero. Sugar is in just about everything, but give it a try. Do your best without going crazy.

6) CUT CHOCOLATE BY 90%. No more than a single piece, once a week.

7) NO NUTRASWEET. None. Period.

8) NO PROCESSED MEATS and NO MSG. Only get meats with labels that say, ?Turkey and Water,? etc. If the meat has chemicals listed that you can't pronounce, don't buy it.

9) CUT FRIED FOODS BY 90%.

10) AVOID FOOD COLORINGS WHENEVER POSSIBLE. See if your child is sensitive to any particular colors, such as Reds, Yellows, etc. For now, though, avoid all if possible.

SUMMARY: Just eat foods that God made for a while. Eat like people did in the 1940's. Go to a used book store and get a Betty Crocker's Cook Book for recipe ideas. There really are about 10,000 meals that you CAN eat. Just not much in the way of ?fast foods? or ?convenience? foods.

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As you already know, I completely agree with this. I have added greek yogurt into my diet recently. If people realized how much just cutting out fructose would do for them....

Sharky, I definitely don't want to get into telling you how to live your life, but as I have always said, beware of these quick solutions. They can come back to haunt you in a myriad of ways. I speak from experience. I was given Paxil in my late 20s. I felt exactly the same as your post reflects, as if I'd found a solution. I eventually learned a much different fate.
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sheesh, Americans are true slaves of corporations!

I agree with MaDalton and all those who think that you can deal with it yourself without any bs pills. Spend some time on reading tips and experiences of other people with the same kind of focus and organization issues, analyze yourself and finally train yourself to be better focused and organized! Don't be lazy! In the end this practice will help you solve tons of other problems without those easy solutions that can actually harm you.
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Hey don't a few of you guys have medical marijuana cards?
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Hey don't a few of you guys have medical marijuana cards?
sure do.

weed = pharma amphetamines?
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sure do.

weed = pharma amphetamines?
Nah, it just made me chuckle. We're all having a jolly time ripping on some guy for taking drugs to help him with "focus" while some of us smoke marijuana "medically" to alleviate... glaucoma?
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Nah, it just made me chuckle. We're all having a jolly time ripping on some guy for taking drugs to help him with "focus" while some of us smoke marijuana "medically" to alleviate... glaucoma?
i believe that weed is very helpful in some cases - like cancer or AIDS. or as pain relieve.

and just fun in other cases

but i gave up many years ago
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Nah, it just made me chuckle. We're all having a jolly time ripping on some guy for taking drugs to help him with "focus" while some of us smoke marijuana "medically" to alleviate... glaucoma?
i smoke weed because i like to get high, simple as that. i did use a valid condition i have to get my weed card.

that being said, i do think there is a lot of value in eating well. many maladies can be averted through eating right.

if i came across as pointing my finger at the op's choice to take adderall, i apologize.
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i smoke weed because i like to get high, simple as that. i did use a valid condition i have to get my weed card.

that being said, i do think there is a lot of value in eating well. many maladies can be averted through eating right.

if i came across as pointing my finger at the op's choice to take adderall, i apologize.
I actually agree with you as I do think that diet has a huge impact on us and can control many "conditions." Most people can't hack it though. Which to me is bizarre because good, healthy food is sooo tasty and I personally can literally feel the differences in when I eat good vs eating garbage.
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Yes, the US takes too many pills.

However, that does not mean that the vast majority of these pills don't work and don't improve peoples lives.

At the end of the day, modifying your body chemistry is modifying your body chemistry. You do it with diet. You do it with supplements. You do it be taking extra omega 3 oil or by eating more fruit or brocolli or drinking coffee and so on.

Adderall works. Plain and simple. I work with a lot of phenomenal sales people including business partners. They are ADD as a motherfucker which is why they are great sales people. But they can't track with a conversation for more than 2 seconds and are almost impossible to manage... the only thing they can do approach people and sell. I also see these people when they are on Adderall and they are totally different people. They are focused, they can actually sit down and read a book, they can stay on track when they talk, suddenly they can listen, they can sit and do nothing without having the constant nagging feeling that they always need to be somewhere else doing something else. If you don't like Adderall.. then don't take it. But unless you have a serious issue with ADD, which is basically going to make you unemployable, then you shouldn't have an opinion about it.

Bunch of broke morons on a porn forum talking like you have masters degree's in neurobiology.

Funny how people can be so upset that others finally get their lives back and can start to realize their own potential and are excited about it.
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I actually agree with you as I do think that diet has a huge impact on us and can control many "conditions." Most people can't hack it though. Which to me is bizarre because good, healthy food is sooo tasty and I personally can literally feel the differences in when I eat good vs eating garbage.
it is a big difference.

it's also against the entire system. where would the average american learn, without going out and finding the information themselves, about food being the starting point?

i'd wager Sharky's physician did not suggest that. no tv commercials advertise that either. in fact, in the bit of googling on this i did, most doctors say food should supplement a medicinal solution for adhd.
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wonder drug! it works on everything!!!
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dyna mo's diet it's pretty much spot on. When I want to be distracted I usually choose to go against that diet.
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I was diagnosed at a young age. I have some tips.

- When working on anything, focus on that task only. Close any unnecessary tabs in your browser, put your status to "away" on IM clients, turn phone on silent, etc.
- Unsubscribe from any email newsletters, updates, etc that you never read anyway.
- Remove clutter from your computer desktop and form your actual desk.

Here's a good book to read: http://focusmanifesto.com/

Here is the author's blog: http://zenhabits.net/archives/
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I was diagnosed at a young age. I have some tips.

- When working on anything, focus on that task only. Close any unnecessary tabs in your browser, put your status to "away" on IM clients, turn phone on silent, etc.
- Unsubscribe from any email newsletters, updates, etc that you never read anyway.
- Remove clutter from your computer desktop and form your actual desk.

Here's a good book to read: http://focusmanifesto.com/

Here is the author's blog: http://zenhabits.net/archives/
Leo just started a course on how to form good habits. About $500 I think. I don't agree with everything he says but overall, pretty solid. Seems like an interesting guy. There is a lot of good literature available on performing good habits though, not quite sure how a $500 course would be worth it but for some it just may be the thing?
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I was diagnosed at a young age. I have some tips.

- When working on anything, focus on that task only. Close any unnecessary tabs in your browser, put your status to "away" on IM clients, turn phone on silent, etc.
- Unsubscribe from any email newsletters, updates, etc that you never read anyway.
- Remove clutter from your computer desktop and form your actual desk.

Here's a good book to read: http://focusmanifesto.com/

Here is the author's blog: http://zenhabits.net/archives/
sounds like good advices for everyone.
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Start by setting up 3 directories on your drive, I use a USB stick for simplicity, easy backup and portability.
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Extended periods of time in front of the PC = ADD and possibly anxiety disorders

I know this will attract haters but hey...

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I don't have ADD but used to take 5-50mg/day for a few years. It was great for slamming out 8-hour work dumps. Until it wasn't...

So long as I had my basic work-plan on paper before I took a single pill, things usually went very well. Never had more fun working in my life!

Music blasting, tasks doing themselves, making 50k/mo, in my 20's and full of pharma-grade speed.

Loads of side-effects, especially for non-ADD folk taking higher doses. Very ugly in the end.
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Which are the side effects?
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Yeah man addrall is the greatest stuff on earth man, i get so much done, and my house has never been cleaner. And the energy! My god the energy! I haven't slept in 12 days! But i'm being so productive! And i've almost solved the jfk assasination plot.


Welp gotta go, gotta fight off the monstrous green squirrels that plague my peripheral vision, yet again.
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Which are the side effects?
Typical speed use side-effects: no appetite, stiff jaw, crash afterward, raised heart rate, possibly addiction - depends of the person really but it's quite hard on our systems.

People w/ ADHD typically report fewer side-effects.
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is also depression a side effect?
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Anyway here is the breakdown of my Organise Directory, all your work goes in the INTERNET sub-directory though.





This really helps organise everything!
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I took Adderall once because a friend of mine got it prescribed, she told me it was fun and so it was. We partied all night and into the next day, couldn't seem to get drunk no matter how much I drank and I could carry a conversation like a pro. I wonder what other drugs have that effect...?!? Heh, like I said, was fun, don't get me wrong, but I would not take it as a help to ADD or ADHD.

I do, yoga, meditation and plenty of cardio to burn the nervous energy. Also like a few people mentioned here, follow a simple and healthy diet without all the additives, fructose, etc.

Not knocking it Sharky, if it works for you, then go for it but try and figure out other, more natural ways to focus. Maybe do a research while on Adderall lol, should help you focus on finding an answer ;)
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I was given Paxil in my late 20s. I felt exactly the same as your post reflects, as if I'd found a solution. I eventually learned a much different fate.
Cory, Long time man!

Paxil != Adderall ; plus the whole SSRI issues.
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I don't believe this is a long-term solution for me at all. However it is helping in the now. DJ The Kid, Your suggestions are very good, as are some others. I think Cory mentioned the diet as a huge factor. I agree. I've made quite a few changes to my diet, working and sleep patterns. Exercise is a contributor as well.

The fact is, now I am able to be more productive, work on my organization and still make these other changes in my life. I'm keeping a daily log of how I feel, side effects I may experience and my overall reaction to the medication so I can discuss with my doctor at my follow up in a few weeks.
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Anyway here is the breakdown of my Organise Directory, all your work goes in the INTERNET sub-directory though.




This really helps organise everything!

That keeps your work organized, not YOU. I don't know anyone that works online that doesn't keep a folder/drive with work files, life, etc within them. But again, that has nothing to do with keeping your tasks/jobs, etc organized.

What you have within those folders, is to do lists though - which do help. But that can be done on a notepad, a to do list on a phone, etc. The folder structure doesn't help with those.

And no amount of folders or lists create motivation which is the ONLY time any of us get anything done is when we're motivated to do it. Organized or not, lists or not...
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I think Cory mentioned the diet as a huge factor. I agree.
that's some funny shit right there.
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I was diagnosed with ADHD in third grade - but it wasn't covered by our insurance at the time, so no chemicals for me. Luckily, I attended a really killer school system that had really strong counselors on staff that helped me develop tools for managing it.

Sharky, over time, you can build that level of focus. I do agree with MaDalton that one of the most important things you can do for yourself is sleep - and it's all too often the thing that we neglect first.

I have a daily/ monthly system I use - I have found that in order to manage myself, I am incredibly task-oriented: do this, then this, then this. If I don't break it down into step-by-step, timed tasks, I lose track and things don't get done. If I need to do it tomorrow, I put it in the file for tomorrow, or if I need to follow up in a month, I put it in today's slot, so when I get back to it next month, it's waiting for me. If it's a same-day follow-up, I set an appointment for myself, and schedule my day around that item, with blocking out time for each task, and an alarm to tell me "time to move on."

I've had people tell me this makes me undisciplined and too reliant on outside factors, but on the other hand: I get shit done, it works for me, AND it helps me keep my work day to a manageable time frame so I'm not neglecting my family and loved ones.

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OOPs! when posting from my iPad I referenced the wrong person.

You are the man;-) As stated before.. I'm willing to try anything... I haven't heard much about cutting dairy or yellow foods, but am familiar with most of the other recommendations on your list.
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There are a variety of different methods for dealing with ADD that don't require prescription drugs... For me, reruns of old movies or shows on tv in my peripheral vision provides my ADD with a nice distraction and I can focus on the task at hand damn near 100% of the time. It absolutely has to be reruns though... I imagine it's different for everyone but that is something I've found to work very well for me.

The problem with prescription drugs is that you'll just develop a dependency on them. Even if they aren't chemically addictive you'll never actually learn how to deal with your ADD WITHOUT the drugs and the longer you stay on the drugs the more difficult it will be to relearn how to cope with your ADD while not on the drugs...

IMO anyway...
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Old 05-24-2011, 08:32 AM   #88
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That keeps your work organized, not YOU. I don't know anyone that works online that doesn't keep a folder/drive with work files, life, etc within them. But again, that has nothing to do with keeping your tasks/jobs, etc organized.

What you have within those folders, is to do lists though - which do help. But that can be done on a notepad, a to do list on a phone, etc. The folder structure doesn't help with those.

And no amount of folders or lists create motivation which is the ONLY time any of us get anything done is when we're motivated to do it. Organized or not, lists or not...

I said your work files go in the INTERNET directory, I assumed everyone has that part organised already.

It's more than just a 'personal' section, you can allocate anything as the 5 levels are a collectic of human endevours.

Say you get some paperwork on a police charge, ORGANISE / SOCIETY / LOCAL GOVT easy! It helps you sort all the goings on in your mind by allocating into the 5 levels.





Here is my INTERNET folder with work and other goals online, most of these domains are just at the wish list stage...

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I said your work files go in the INTERNET directory, I assumed everyone has that part organised already.

It's more than just a 'personal' section, you can allocate anything as the 5 levels are a collectic of human endevours.

Say you get some paperwork on a police charge, ORGANISE / SOCIETY / LOCAL GOVT easy! It helps you sort all the goings on in your mind by allocating into the 5 levels.


Here is my INTERNET folder with work and other goals online, most of these domains are just at the wish list stage...

Oh... I can't relate to that need but I can see why it may help some people.
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Oh... I can't relate to that need but I can see why it may help some people.
Yeh some people have their affairs sorted already. I have a lot of goals and like to have my hand in everything so it's worked for me!
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I love adderall but wow DO NOT mix it with alcohol....congrats on your ability to focus but yes MAKE A TO DO LIST!!!

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If you think the adderall helps, you need to really try crystal meth.. It will do wonders for your focus
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