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				It's official now-myfreecams.com is a game changer
			 
			I predicted some time ago as many others did that this site would be a game changer. Well many people said no the idea is dumb. Well I have like 8 cam sites with this tipping model buying from me right now, some have showed me thier stats and I'm completely blown away. Personally I thought cam sites would have decreasing sales but I was wrong. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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	ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466 ![]() Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/ Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers. http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o  | 
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		 porn never died, just the paysite model. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 If anything is going up its our cam sales. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 You have a ton of traffic too, so this confirms again for me, cam sites are really doing good right now 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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	ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466 ![]() Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/ Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers. http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o  | 
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		 I personally dont see how pay per minute sites can compete with myfreecams chatting with an actual chick before ever pulling out the credit card 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Cams are winning right now! IMO the free cams help ours sales too.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			There's a lot of people out there that love "private" sex shows with a live person. So the game changer works both ways. 
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		 Cams and Dating are both doing great... I too have several of these "Free" cam sites buying from me in large volume. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Me either, I personally think the whole idea of paying a girl on a cam site is pathetic, HOWEVER, browsing some of these tipping based cam sites even I have been tempted to tip some of these girls, especially the ones that bust their ass for hours and stick everything they own up their ass and pussy in order to get guys to tip. It's the "damn I feel bad for that girl shes working her ass off I gotta give her a couple bucks" thing, lol. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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	ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466 ![]() Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/ Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers. http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o  | 
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		 Not as slow as you obviously. Your site is 404 idiot 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			http://www.free-cams.co.uk/ You should change your nick to GFY Jester. I guess you made it Jack Sparrow as he's a pirate and your from the Netherlands? Pirates were English idiot, your thinking of Vikings. Wow 
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	ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466 ![]() Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/ Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers. http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o  | 
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	ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466 ![]() Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/ Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers. http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o  | 
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		 i also run a cam studio, had girls making $600 / day from tips on MFC 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Ah so you farm them out to mfc and take a cut? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Um okay JACK SPARROW. Why is your nick a imaginary movie figure? You so fucking funny. When my daughter was 13 she was in love with Johny Dep. She grew out of it, most people grow out of playing imaginary figures by the time they are 14, what happened to you little boy? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		  not only to MFC, some girls don't like it, but some yes. usually my girls work on 2, 3 sites. If they work on MFC they need to get naked for tips, and they can't work for other sites (they need to work exclusive on MFC). For models, MFC as a site can be hard to work, but the girls with patience and good looking ones  always make money there  | 
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		 just a matter of time until the cams are free as tube sites, even the explicit shows 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Exactly. MFC and similar tipping sites may look like a game changer and as a step forward now, but what it does is giving more to the customer for less. Teach customers like that and you'll be losing a business. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 At that point free hari kari sites will probably become the new rage. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I think your missing the point, even though they are free the girls and thus site owners are making more money than the cam pay per minute model. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 cam4 is prerecorded so not the same thing. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 i guess this is how they attract new models: http://www.cam4.com/contest/month/ 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 This is the red light districts fault.... a little free peak-a-boo and bam, free porn around the world! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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 What MFC does is tap into the 90% of the internet market that can not afford to spend $3 a minute to do a private show. So the people who can only spend $5, $10, $20 a week can do that now via tips and still feel like they are at least part of the action. However the people who can afford the $3 a min (couple hundred ++ a week) and like the girls to themselves, privacy, where they have complete control still continue to do just as many private shows. Tipping or MFC didn't kill cams as you thought. The other cam sites that added tipping finally realized they were missing much of the market. 
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		 It funny watching people that the extent of their cam knowledge is having been on a couple cam sites talk about things that they have no clue about, like they know what the hell they are talking about. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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 ![]() ![]() ![]() I am starting to feel bad for this dutch queer boy. He gets slapped around like $5 hooker in Harlem. free-cams.co.uk What a great domain he has there. Must be 404 because of the huge traffic its getting from his SEO works. He has two different companies working on it. Bwaaaaaaaahaaaa. ![]() ![]() ![]() I don't think dutch had any vikings. Gay Vikings maybe. I don't think Dutch even had anything of historical value at all. Can someone tell me what Dutch are known for besides drugs, hookers, and guys that like to take things up their poopenshaft?  | 
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		 Cams will continue to evolve with different pricing models/styles and still has a long profitable future ahead of it... I think once mobile cam sites take off ..the skys the limit for cam operators/promoters. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
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 Some cam sites added "tipping", it didn't *save them* it allowed them to make additional revenue from a large sector of the market they were neglecting before, the people who can't afford to spend $3, $4 etc a minute for a private show. Not exactly. When I first saw MFC back in 2007 ish I didn't think it was a great concept. I didn't think that other members would be cool with free loaders. I thought, why would someone put money up for everyone else to see. I didn't think it would be that successful, but obviously after watching the site grow and become popular over a couple years and spending some time in the chat rooms you could see that people didn't care, if others contributed or not and in fact that some people liked to throw money around via tips because it made them feel like a big shot to the other people in the room. I under estimated mans sense of bragging and trying to feel important in a room full of other guys. What Leon developed turned out to be a very lucrative, genius, yet very simple concept. 
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		 i don't think any of the big cam sites are hurting at all. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 cam and dating will always be the easiest things to convert, because people love them, no matter what niche you are in 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 I've heard from a lot cams is blowing up right now and dating is sucking. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
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	ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466 ![]() Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/ Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers. http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o  | 
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 Cams is the thing that seems the most bullet proof, well behind toy sales. 
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		 i love MFC -  it's occurred to me that I could now make a lot more money putting girls on MFC as a studio owner than spending small fortunes on solo girl paysites and making a modest return. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			but i can't do that, to me it's straight out pimping, you invest nothing, you build nothing, you are living off girls who do all the work. she doesn't need a 'studio owner' to be on MFC. Back in the day lots of girls didn't have a computer of their own, a webcam and a broadband Internet connection, now they all do. No need for a studio. the appeal of MFC for lots of guys including me is that the American girls and many of the European girls are working for themselves from home. MFC has a feel that none of the other cam sites have. But I agree with Will, MFC hasn't hurt/killed the other cam sites, they seem just as busy as ever. There are many girls from other cam sites who give MFC a try and don't like it - they don't have the patience to build a new fanbase and probably don't like having to perform for 1,000 guys in free chat to get tips. 
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