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jimthefiend · 07-08-2007, 06:13 AM

Just for fun, lets say you KNEW for a fact that a certain company was shaving and could PROVE it; would you out them on the boards or just help file a class action suit on behalf of the affiliates getting ganked?

Hypothetically.

TeenCat · 07-08-2007, 06:27 AM

im working on one sponsor ... i will have info in next days ... i have my site before his original in the first place in all search engines, i made few sales after few hours i got the actual possition, then someone checked my url through whois and from then no sale in two weeks ... search engine traffic as hell, but no sale ... 100s people are comming to the site through me ... umm interesting, stay tuned i will keep you informed and maybe one sponsor to fall ... but those are only my actual

best wishes with your sites, less thiefs and enjoy my engrish everyone!

mortenb · 07-08-2007, 06:29 AM

How would you gather affiliates for the class action suit without letting them know about it on the boards?

cranki · 07-08-2007, 06:30 AM

out them for sure.

TeenCat · 07-08-2007, 06:36 AM

i mean i will post about them on board, i dont have the power and apetite to do any suit against anyone ;) loosing of time ...

Sands · 07-08-2007, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimthefiend

Just for fun, lets say you KNEW for a fact that a certain company was shaving and could PROVE it; would you out them on the boards or just help file a class action suit on behalf of the affiliates getting ganked?

Hypothetically.

When you refer to shaving in this instance, or in general, does it only involve misreporting raw hits/unique hits/join hits/etc., or not counting actual sales?

As for your question, I think the answer would depend on the intent: do you want to vilify and punish the company, or help affiliates gain proper compensation? For the former, outting them on the boards would be the ideal solution since it would hurt their rep, steer curious/future affiliates away, and probably cause existing affiliates to stop promoting them. If it's for the latter, then the class action lawsuit would be ideal because it would allow the cheated affiliates to receive all due revenue.

It may not be as clear cut as above, and one outcome may lead to the other while achieving both aims. If I were an affiliate of that program I'd certainly want to know about their illicit activities one way or the other.

brand0n · 07-08-2007, 08:21 AM

You know how much of a dick you'll look like if you've known this info for awhile, and waited to spill it after you and said program had issues...

DаrkJedi · 07-08-2007, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jimthefiend

Just for fun, lets say you KNEW for a fact that a certain company was shaving and could PROVE it; would you out them on the boards or just help file a class action suit on behalf of the affiliates getting ganked?

Hypothetically.

Boobs · 07-08-2007, 08:38 AM

okay talk.. who is it

DaddyHalbucks · 07-08-2007, 09:02 AM

Spill the beans.

Post your proof.

jimthefiend · 07-08-2007, 10:39 AM

Just a little bump to make sure the proper jackass is paying attention.

cranki · 07-08-2007, 10:40 AM

so what kind of proof do you have?

jimthefiend · 07-08-2007, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by cranki

so what kind of proof do you have?

The kind that would go over real well in a courtroom.

Screaming · 07-08-2007, 10:42 AM

so in other words, youve got no intention of sharing what so ever, you are doing this just to get treys attention in one way shape or another.

when im right.. im right.

Deej · 07-08-2007, 10:52 AM

dude... anyone that frequents GFY knows exactly whats going on here....
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Deej · 07-08-2007, 10:54 AM

dude... anyone that frequents GFY knows exactly whats going on here....
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DаrkJedi · 07-08-2007, 10:59 AM

jim is planning to go out with a bang and drag Trey in with him

Screaming · 07-08-2007, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DаrkJedi

jim is planning to go out with a bang and drag Trey in with him

he wont do it. this is all just to get what ever he wanted out of trey.

trey will give it to him and that will be that..

Cyber Fucker · 07-08-2007, 11:24 AM

I wonder how could we prove that sponsor shaves.. I mean what proof would be enough proof?

Screaming · 07-08-2007, 11:37 AM

its pretty simple when you work for the company ofcourse.. or used to work for it..

once your allowed into the back end...

Humpy Leftnut · 07-08-2007, 11:41 AM

I think shaving is going to get worse, as things get more dilluted. Then we'll really see people pulling out the razors to save themselves.

biskoppen · 07-08-2007, 11:44 AM

We're shave testing our sponsors all the time... but we've never caught anyone

biskoppen · 07-08-2007, 11:45 AM

Let me add, I do think some sponsors shave - but they're pretty damn smart about how they do it

Screaming · 07-08-2007, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by biskoppen

Let me add, I do think some sponsors shave - but they're pretty damn smart about how they do it

how are you testing them, who have you all ready tested?

biskoppen · 07-08-2007, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Screaming

how are you testing them, who have you all ready tested?

Usually I make test signups using family members credit cards... and yes, I always let the sponsor know after, so they can delete the sales

We've tested more or less all the big programs out there and the reason why we do it is that we see some insane sales patterns from time to time which I simply refuses to believe

We've seen spots on big TGPs pay of maybe 25 sales in average 10 spots in a row and BOOM every single spot all of a sudden only pays off 4-5 sales.. out of no where

But.. I don't think can be blamed on shaving, I think it's the paysites which gets added to the trojan guys database..

p1mpdogg · 07-08-2007, 02:53 PM

i say post the info! afterall you ARE DYING OF CANCER, DO SOMETHING GOOD FOR THE INDUSTRY AND OUT THE FUCKERS!

oops caps

DаrkJedi · 07-08-2007, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by p1mpdogg

i say post the info! afterall you ARE DYING OF CANCER, DO SOMETHING GOOD FOR THE INDUSTRY AND OUT THE FUCKERS!

oops caps

something makes me think that if he posts it, he may not live long enough to die of cancer

Screaming · 07-08-2007, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by p1mpdogg

i say post the info! afterall you ARE DYING OF CANCER, DO SOMETHING GOOD FOR THE INDUSTRY AND OUT THE FUCKERS!

oops caps

so you didnt pay him off?

you know this is about epic, we all do.. anyone who read this thread knows it was about epic....

ShaveBucks · 07-08-2007, 03:03 PM

Submit them to me on my site (in my sig).... I'd love to hear about them.

Dvae · 07-08-2007, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jimthefiend

Question about shaving.

MaDalton · 07-08-2007, 05:01 PM

this thread does not deliver

p1mpdogg · 07-08-2007, 05:16 PM

Jim couldnt possibly know if epic shaved or not. I know its not about Epic. nor would Jim post it anyways, as far as i know jim and epic are cool. he simply took another job. no drama.

g$$$ · 07-08-2007, 05:19 PM

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p1mpdogg · 07-08-2007, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Screaming

so you didnt pay him off?

you know this is about epic, we all do.. anyone who read this thread knows it was about epic....

pay who off?

what makes you think its about epic? becuase he used to work for us? he has worked for quite a few dif places im pretty sure

jimthefiend · 07-08-2007, 06:02 PM

This has nothing to do with Epic. Don't assume shit.

Damnage X · 07-08-2007, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimthefiend

Just for fun, lets say you KNEW for a fact that a certain company was shaving and could PROVE it; would you out them on the boards or just help file a class action suit on behalf of the affiliates getting ganked?

Hypothetically.

why dont you go to ADX and we will show you tips on (SHAVING) and ripping off webmasters!

Bomber8888 · 07-08-2007, 08:53 PM

This thread has zero BALLS!

Drake · 07-08-2007, 08:57 PM

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tehHinjew · 07-08-2007, 09:01 PM

does his name start with an R?

marketsmart · 07-08-2007, 09:06 PM

lol..... i hope everyone in this thread gets the herpes... including me....

Screaming · 07-08-2007, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimthefiend

This has nothing to do with Epic. Don't assume shit.

translation:

all is well
/threat

Far-L · 07-08-2007, 11:51 PM

Hope a good clear conscience tells you to do the right thing for those who are getting fucked over and decide to blow the whistle for all those who have been ripped off, are getting burned now, and will continue to lose in the future unless someone with scruples steps up to do something about it.

GreyWolf · 07-09-2007, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimthefiend

Just for fun, lets say you KNEW for a fact that a certain company was shaving and could PROVE it; would you out them on the boards or just help file a class action suit on behalf of the affiliates getting ganked?

Hypothetically.

Hypothetical of course

No... would not say immediately. It's called letting out the rope. This did happen and for a fair lump of money (six figures) and was in the process of fraud issues. But.. these were complicated and delayed by multi-jurisdictional problems and in that time the company liquidated. It was a waste of time and throwing good money after bad to continue chasing the individuals involved. Tho... don't doubt there were more webmasters conned at that time.

V_RocKs · 07-09-2007, 01:09 AM

I'd blow up their offices...

(Note to FBI, that is code for taking a shit in their toilet and not flushing)

07-08-2007, 06:13 AM	#1
jimthefiend So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: icq: 121189 Posts: 18,889	Question about shaving. Just for fun, lets say you KNEW for a fact that a certain company was shaving and could PROVE it; would you out them on the boards or just help file a class action suit on behalf of the affiliates getting ganked? Hypothetically.

07-08-2007, 06:27 AM	#2
TeenCat Too lazy to set a koala Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: CZ/EU forever! Posts: 16,139	im working on one sponsor ... i will have info in next days ... i have my site before his original in the first place in all search engines, i made few sales after few hours i got the actual possition, then someone checked my url through whois and from then no sale in two weeks ... search engine traffic as hell, but no sale ... 100s people are comming to the site through me ... umm interesting, stay tuned i will keep you informed and maybe one sponsor to fall ... but those are only my actual best wishes with your sites, less thiefs and enjoy my engrish everyone! __________________ 6bot / Coming again very soon! Svit Zlin Radio 24/7!

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