Sponsors that pop up shit that you won't get paid for - GoFuckYourself.com

eurabia · 09-09-2006, 05:55 AM

U know what I'm talking about? You send them a surfer and they pop up 5 fucking windows from theird-party sponsors that you obviously won't get paid for. The console free PPS pays you $5 less. I'm thinking... fuck.. I'll opt for console free since the CF will probably convert better for me and my traff won't go off to 5 places where I don't get paid. What do you fools think?

martinsc · 09-09-2006, 05:56 AM

this like a good spot for my sig

Pimpin_J · 09-09-2006, 06:02 AM

yeah mine will fit in perfectly too

ssp · 09-09-2006, 06:10 AM

If you don't like it, don't join the program. Upselling is normal business practice and it happens all the time. Nothing you can do about it really.

StuartD · 09-09-2006, 06:11 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that why the payout is different from a no-console tour?

paymeback · 09-09-2006, 06:11 AM

Think of it more like you can get $5 more per signup if you allow them to show consoles instead of $5 less for cfree and you will feel much better

StuartD · 09-09-2006, 06:14 AM

Alright, let me put it another way...

$25 no console / sale and you get 25 = $625
$30 / sale and you only get 20 because you lose 5 to consoles = $600

Don't you feel better for having not lost those 5 sales? A huge difference there. The difference of only one sale. Now imagine you didn't lose a huge 20%... imagine like, 5 or 10 %... and now you're making more.

scottybuzz · 09-09-2006, 06:36 AM

i thought i made a thrread about this sometime ago, about how consoles have your links in them still. but thats not 3rd party.

i think programs should do all that they can to get you sales. because if sales pop up from programs you dont even know, then you think, hey this sponser fucking rules. and your making more money than u even knew about and I would have thought you would be more likley to stay with them.

ninavain · 09-09-2006, 07:04 AM

Guess what..we have NO pop ups and lots of Titties to suck on

Boobs · 09-09-2006, 07:05 AM

i agree, thats why i tend to stay with CF tours

eurabia · 09-09-2006, 11:46 AM

Again different fool, different opinion. Ahh the world of pluralism.

Paul Markham · 09-09-2006, 11:50 AM

I was getting a lot of flack for having links to other sites on our tour. So as I knew what they brought in I took them down.

If the guy you sent does not buy what you sent him to then there is a very slim chance he might buy something else.

VERY FUCKING SLIM.

Or did you think sponsors are making a killing having you send him traffic for one site and he makes more money sending it somewhere else?

Think of the logic of that argument.

It's more profitable to send the traffic elsewhere than convert it for the original reason it came.

seeric · 09-09-2006, 12:06 PM

stupidest thread of the year award.

do you run a pps program? its apparent the answer is no.

exactly how do you think pps programs can afford to pay you 35 a join?

some of you need to take a look at how a business model works before you try to start witty threads to ripple the pond.

peace.

ravo · 09-09-2006, 12:47 PM

Actually, if you're getting $5 more per signup for the "with console" tours, you *are* getting paid for the pop ups.

spacedog · 09-09-2006, 12:50 PM

check out GTS console broker & you'll see which sponsors sell their console traffic.. this is a good indication that they're primary & ultimate priority is generating webmaster traffic for the purpose of profiting off of exit consoles.. The way I figure it, if they're so desperate to sell that traffic, then the site itself likely converts like shit, does not retain or rebill.. Of course they're offering you higher payouts for the with consoles traffic, because deep down they know the surfer will not join their site, but will click something or buy something from the exit consoles

andrej_NDC · 09-09-2006, 01:15 PM

Try both, console free and console on your traffic and see what makes you more money. In theory more surfers should sign-up on clean tours, but I doubt there is a big difference.

shiloh451 · 09-09-2006, 01:17 PM

That the adult web business model is the only one I know of that thinks its a good idea to piss off their potential customers. To me popups are too much like spam and send the message that the site might be less than trustworthy.

I guess Microsoft and others didn't have anything better to do so they added popup blockers, not because there was a need but just for the heck of it.

Anyone else noticed a trend toward console free sites? Leading the way seems to be the larger more reputable programs.

Surfers don't always join on the 1st visit. Throw a popup at them will they come back for another look? I sure as hell won't. I'm gone forever.

andrej_NDC · 09-09-2006, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by spacedog

check out GTS console broker & you'll see which sponsors sell their console traffic.. this is a good indication that they're primary & ultimate priority is generating webmaster traffic for the purpose of profiting off of exit consoles.. The way I figure it, if they're so desperate to sell that traffic, then the site itself likely converts like shit, does not retain or rebill.. Of course they're offering you higher payouts for the with consoles traffic, because deep down they know the surfer will not join their site, but will click something or buy something from the exit consoles

Sorry to destroy your illusion, but exits are just a bonus. You are not losing many surfers on the exits, for sure.

andrej_NDC · 09-09-2006, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by shiloh451

That the adult web business model is the only one I know of that thinks its a good idea to piss off their potential customers. To me popups are too much like spam and send the message that the site might be less than trustworthy.

Pleeeease, mainstream is much much worse. Most mainstream sites have so many damn pop-ups and mostly to absolutely different products, that its really annyoing. Adult pop-ups have at least a little logic behind them, if you don't like the paysite, the pop-up offers you other paysites.

WiredGuy · 09-09-2006, 01:26 PM

If you don't like consoles, promote the console free version and put your own consoles (via frames)...
WG

RogerV · 09-09-2006, 01:30 PM

we have many options and we dont collect emails or anything on our pages...

BlackCrayon · 09-09-2006, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K

stupidest thread of the year award.

do you run a pps program? its apparent the answer is no.

exactly how do you think pps programs can afford to pay you 35 a join?

some of you need to take a look at how a business model works before you try to start witty threads to ripple the pond.

peace.

unfortunately there are a good number of revshare programs who do this as well. i can see for pps, but revshare..no way.

bdld · 09-09-2006, 03:11 PM

send to console-free and set up your own console-chain.

Aric · 09-09-2006, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacedog

check out GTS console broker & you'll see which sponsors sell their console traffic.. this is a good indication that they're primary & ultimate priority is generating webmaster traffic for the purpose of profiting off of exit consoles.. The way I figure it, if they're so desperate to sell that traffic, then the site itself likely converts like shit, does not retain or rebill.. Of course they're offering you higher payouts for the with consoles traffic, because deep down they know the surfer will not join their site, but will click something or buy something from the exit consoles

Everyone in this business is here to make money. Chicken, meet egg.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

If you don't like consoles, promote the console free version and put your own consoles (via frames)...

What he said ^

Love Sex · 09-09-2006, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K

stupidest thread of the year award.

do you run a pps program? its apparent the answer is no.

exactly how do you think pps programs can afford to pay you 35 a join?

some of you need to take a look at how a business model works before you try to start witty threads to ripple the pond.

stupidest reply of the year award.

Everyones business model is different.

A site can charge an avg $35 and up a month to be a member. They actually have a quality product where the customer brings in enough or way more then that $35 payout.

andrej_NDC · 09-09-2006, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

unfortunately there are a good number of revshare programs who do this as well. i can see for pps, but revshare..no way.

yep, for a revshare program, it should be a no no

Will Mazuma · 09-11-2006, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by eurabia

U know what I'm talking about? You send them a surfer and they pop up 5 fucking windows from theird-party sponsors that you obviously won't get paid for. The console free PPS pays you $5 less. I'm thinking... fuck.. I'll opt for console free since the CF will probably convert better for me and my traff won't go off to 5 places where I don't get paid. What do you fools think?

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Major (Tom) · 09-11-2006, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

If you don't like consoles, promote the console free version and put your own consoles (via frames)...
WG

cant frames screw up the sponsors google ranking if he opens up a frame in a new domain but the sponsors exact page?

just curious.

duke

09-09-2006, 05:55 AM	#1
eurabia Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 289	Sponsors that pop up shit that you won't get paid for U know what I'm talking about? You send them a surfer and they pop up 5 fucking windows from theird-party sponsors that you obviously won't get paid for. The console free PPS pays you $5 less. I'm thinking... fuck.. I'll opt for console free since the CF will probably convert better for me and my traff won't go off to 5 places where I don't get paid. What do you fools think?

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ssp Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,990	If you don't like it, don't join the program. Upselling is normal business practice and it happens all the time. Nothing you can do about it really.

09-09-2006, 06:14 AM	#7
StuartD Sofa King Band Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Outside the box Posts: 29,903	Alright, let me put it another way... $25 no console / sale and you get 25 = $625 $30 / sale and you only get 20 because you lose 5 to consoles = $600 Don't you feel better for having not lost those 5 sales? A huge difference there. The difference of only one sale. Now imagine you didn't lose a huge 20%... imagine like, 5 or 10 %... and now you're making more. __________________ This is me on facebook This is me on twitter Last edited by StuartD; 09-09-2006 at 06:16 AM..

09-09-2006, 06:36 AM	#8
scottybuzz Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2006 Location: NY Posts: 14,800	i thought i made a thrread about this sometime ago, about how consoles have your links in them still. but thats not 3rd party. i think programs should do all that they can to get you sales. because if sales pop up from programs you dont even know, then you think, hey this sponser fucking rules. and your making more money than u even knew about and I would have thought you would be more likley to stay with them. __________________ $$$$$ MAKE HUGE MONEY IN CAMS - CLICK HERE $$$$$

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ninavain So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 6,268	Guess what..we have NO pop ups and lots of Titties to suck on

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09-09-2006, 11:46 AM	#11
eurabia Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 289	Again different fool, different opinion. Ahh the world of pluralism.

09-09-2006, 11:50 AM	#12
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	I was getting a lot of flack for having links to other sites on our tour. So as I knew what they brought in I took them down. If the guy you sent does not buy what you sent him to then there is a very slim chance he might buy something else. VERY FUCKING SLIM. Or did you think sponsors are making a killing having you send him traffic for one site and he makes more money sending it somewhere else? Think of the logic of that argument. It's more profitable to send the traffic elsewhere than convert it for the original reason it came. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

09-09-2006, 12:06 PM	#13
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	stupidest thread of the year award. do you run a pps program? its apparent the answer is no. exactly how do you think pps programs can afford to pay you 35 a join? some of you need to take a look at how a business model works before you try to start witty threads to ripple the pond. peace.

09-09-2006, 12:47 PM	#14
ravo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Skype: ravo.fpctraffic Posts: 5,445	Actually, if you're getting $5 more per signup for the "with console" tours, you are getting paid for the pop ups. __________________ AdultAdBroker - Buy and Sell Your Flat Rate Banners, Links, Tabs, Pops, Email Clicks and Members' Area Traffic - updated Sept 2025

09-09-2006, 12:50 PM	#15
spacedog Yes that IS me. Bitch. Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 14,149	check out GTS console broker & you'll see which sponsors sell their console traffic.. this is a good indication that they're primary & ultimate priority is generating webmaster traffic for the purpose of profiting off of exit consoles.. The way I figure it, if they're so desperate to sell that traffic, then the site itself likely converts like shit, does not retain or rebill.. Of course they're offering you higher payouts for the with consoles traffic, because deep down they know the surfer will not join their site, but will click something or buy something from the exit consoles

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andrej_NDC Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 7,760	Try both, console free and console on your traffic and see what makes you more money. In theory more surfers should sign-up on clean tours, but I doubt there is a big difference.

09-09-2006, 01:17 PM	#17
shiloh451 Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 146	It never ceases to amaze me... That the adult web business model is the only one I know of that thinks its a good idea to piss off their potential customers. To me popups are too much like spam and send the message that the site might be less than trustworthy. I guess Microsoft and others didn't have anything better to do so they added popup blockers, not because there was a need but just for the heck of it. Anyone else noticed a trend toward console free sites? Leading the way seems to be the larger more reputable programs. Surfers don't always join on the 1st visit. Throw a popup at them will they come back for another look? I sure as hell won't. I'm gone forever. __________________ www.elitexxxsource.com An Invitation to Excellence for the Surfing Connisseur. www.bluetoonmedia.com; cool_content.com/brad

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WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,486	If you don't like consoles, promote the console free version and put your own consoles (via frames)... WG __________________ I play with Google.

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RogerV Banned! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,591	we have many options and we dont collect emails or anything on our pages...

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bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	send to console-free and set up your own console-chain.